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Accurate

>> No.22042002

>>22041824
elaborate please, I don't get it

>> No.22042025
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22042025

>>22041824
>Be huxley
>bitch about utopian science, scientific progress and new ideas 24h, 7 days a week
>your brother the famous eugenist biologist keep bringing his friend to discuss how cool science is
>go to america, see capitalism and sexual debauchery
>mind_snaps.exe
>write Brave New world, critics bitch but the rabble loves it
>years pass
>drop sexual conservatism, fuck bitches all year long
>your wife gets depressed by your sexy mistress
>no problem actually, the mistress starts fucking the wife too
>some_problems_just_solve_themselves.png
>get mad into drugs and buddhism, fuck western relligion lmao
>end your life drugged out of your mind as a sexual libertine, drug hippy, pseudo-communist and New Age prophet
>people post your works as an example of what normal person should be

The absolute state of modern literary knowledge
fucking kill me

>> No.22042031

>>22042025
>I’m so abnormal becuase I want to chase dopamine and my society won’t let me

>> No.22042054

>>22041824
How is Kafka auth-left? Didn't he criticize bureaucracy and such in his works?

>> No.22042077

>>22042025
Shit, now I want to be like him

>>22042054
Being a lefty and criticizing the bureaucracy are not mutually exclusive, it just makes you a fascist

>> No.22042101

>>22042054
yes but he was critical of individualism as well

>> No.22042118

>>22041824
>>22042054
>>22042077
>>22042101
Kafka was a far left fascist

>> No.22042123

>>22042118
Kafka was afraid of anything big government. Passports are scary and shit.

>> No.22042125

>>22042118
That would be an adequate description made by a far-left communist when Kafka caught up with his bullshit

>> No.22042138

>>22042025
huxley is a faggot

>> No.22042230

>>22042118
>>22042077
kafka wasn't a fascist. Kafka was a radical political misanthropes. Kafka was an anarcho-nihilist.

>> No.22042232

>>22042002
test

>> No.22042390

>>22042230
That's not the point, my man. Whatever he was, whatever he told others he was, whatever it was told about what he was after literary analysis, everyone that disagrees with lefty bureaucracy is a fascist, as is dictated by the mainstream tactics of lefties dealing with criticism. They can also call him a far-left radical fascist and feel absolutely no contradiction after they spell it out.

Politics as ideology is a farce, a barely concealed gnostic cult to give powers for your own instead of your competition, and whatever machination you engender is fluff to support a side or the other.

>> No.22042405

>>22042390
>cnn and some blue hairs say not liking bureaucratic authoritarian states is bad so therefore it's fascist so therefore Kafka is a fascist but he's still leftwing even though he has no endorsement of nationalism or militarism
>pseud inclusion of Gnosticism that makes no sense
>somehow the same inclusion also defeats the point of your argument
you have to be 18 or older to post on this board.

>> No.22042472

>>22042405
>word sallad word sallad you're wrong
lol, ok, lemme peel it

>cnn and some blue hairs say not liking bureaucratic authoritarian states is bad
Not what I said. "Everyone that disagrees with me is a fascist" is a lefty tactic since at least the 50's. It have nothing to do with actual fascism and everything to do with politicking tactics to make your opposition look like absolute evil to justify being agressive against them.

>Kafka is a fascist but he's still leftwing
On the heads of the people that he criticized, yes. How's your reading interpretation capabilities?

>even though he has no endorsement of nationalism or militarism
Yes, revealing all the bullshit about who criticized Kafka like that in his time, they're just narcisists lording over the poor with no ideological consistence whatsoever that repeats theory as spells to get into power and have no uderstanding of them

>pseud inclusion of Gnosticism
Politics in general are initiate cults defending ideas with no parallel to reality but are manifest anyway because enough people believe it, which is a main trope from gnosticism. Many other things are. Marx's natural communist man that would spend his days helping others because it's human nature to do so is such a bullshitrous take it made me laugh the first time I heard it, but hey, the soviets achieved it with enslaving their populace, so that's proof that's what men are

>>somehow the same inclusion also defeats the point of your argument
I'd like to see that one being better elaborated, please and thank you

>> No.22042525

>>22042472
>leftists sometimes call things fascist as a tactic
>Kafka criticized bureaucratic states
>Therefore Kafka is a fascist cause some people would criticize him as such
Ok the first thing i want to disagree with is that nobody, to my knowledge, has ever accused Kafka of fascism, especially in his time own time (considering ww1 ended in 1914 and fascism grew as a popular cultural force in Italy in the subsequent years. The growth of fascism occured roughly in the last ten years of Kafka's life). I may be wrong here but your connection of "kafka is a fascist" seems really tenuous. Are you saying "some leftists may say Kafka is a fascist because he was critical of bureaucracy. Therefore he might as well be one because leftism is so unilaterally devoted to bureaucracy that anyone who advocates in favor of it is therefore a fascist?" I don't really agree. Leftists do often overuse the fascism label but this is by no means all of them (I can't even really find a paper or essay accusing Kafka of fascism. This is an especially strange claim considering contexts such as the broader cultural literary/leftist tradition is generally left communist and often writes very positively about Kafka as a critique of authoritarianism, for example Deleuze and Guattari's Kafka towards a minor literature. Kafka himself was notably a socialist and his relation to nationalism is difficult to determine) , but even if it were it doesn't follow that Kafka is in fact or should be called a fascist.
>politics itself are initiate cults defending ideas with no parallel to reality but are manifest anyway because enough people believe it.
except that's not really true. Politic does have a relation to reality. People have a will to effect change in reality and then pursue it. Even if Marx's "natural communist man" is a bullshit ideal it doesn't follow that politics is purely gnosticism, it just means political thinkers are often incorrect about the nature of reality, but this is true of literally every realm of study. The soviets didn't really achieve "natural communist" there was a division of labor in the soviet union and regular working weeks. Furthermore what's your actual opposition to Marx's "natural communist man"? That man doesn't naturally divide his time? That this is incompatible with a sophisticated modern economy? It seems like your definition of "gnosticism" is so broad that literally any intervention into reality or realization of human change is categorized as gnositicism.
Lastly this defeats the very point of your argument. You argue on the one hand that Kafka is a fascist because leftists might attribute him as one, while on the other hand you accuse politics of being a gnostic delusion that believes collective will dictates reality. The conjunction of these two views are at odds, how can collective attribution (leftists making kafka a fascist) be both a definition of reality while also being a gnostic delusion. You hold two contradictory premises.

>> No.22042546

God I want to kill myself. I can't believe all the 4 in the op still had better lives than I've to suffer. God it sucks so fucking much; why'd I have to be born?

>> No.22042547

>>22042525
Fucking whoosh, mate. It's all a Dubord's spectacle. Your whole post is fluff for the spectacle. I have better things to do than to engage farce fluff. Have a nice day

>> No.22042551

>>22042547
What many guenon threads does to a mf.

>> No.22042740

>>22041824
Camus was definitely right
We're in an absurd situation
It's plausible that if we don't destroy ourselves in the next couple decade, we could set down our burdens and live in comfort, perhaps even happiness.
https://arbital.com/p/cosmic_endowment

>> No.22042760

>>22042230
>anarcho-nihilist.
Fascists are anarchists and nihilists

>> No.22042877

>>22042760
I don't know about nihilists. there are parallels i guess. Even so they aren't one and the same thing

>> No.22043303

>>22042551
It's better than pretending to be smart for normies to control them by arguing political theory fluff and never achieve anything than to circlejerk each other in an eternal ouroboros of crypto-gnostic bullshit and pocket taxpayer money without having to actually have a honest day of work

>> No.22043353

>>22042025
You could say he had a savage fate.

>> No.22043377

>>22042760
If you read any marxist theory you'd know communists are exacly the same

>> No.22043530

>>22042760
Greetings from Kazhakstan

I hate communists so much its unreal

>> No.22043624

>>22042760
>Fascists are 100% for the rule of the people without a government, self rule and a free economy. Totally not about a charismatic dictatorship who will need to enlist the populace into the military so they can invade the neighbors

I really hope you don't believe that bullshit, anon. That's more embarrassing than being a christian

>>22043377
If you read Bakunin, you'd know Marx was an authoritarian-socialist and not a communist

>> No.22044752

>>22043530
kazahs are communists lmao

>> No.22044792

>>22041824
Huxley is based. Normies have to be insane to not be insane.

>> No.22044916

>>22042472
Truth to be told seeing evil as a corruption without its distinct essence is missing the forest for the trees. You have to realize evil is just as capable of taking root as good, while not falling for its luscious fruits, and never underestimate its abilities.

>> No.22045802

>>22043624
I read Bakunin, I can't understand how people still eat lefty political authority when they're guilty of everything of the same of state-rigging Bakunin accused the burgeoise of his time

>an authoritarian-socialist and not a communist
More fluff, completely irrelevant

>>22044916
>seeing evil as a corruption without its distinct essence
I don't know where you picked that. The essence of evil is man.

>evil is just as capable of taking root as good
No, evil is nature good is effort. There's an enormous effort to be any good. All you need to do to be evil is nothing, and it takes rood by itself with very, very little effort.

>while not falling for its luscious fruits
But they're right there for the picking
How about I tell you every political system is predisposed to favor evil people and will end in catastrophe, every time? Because, you know, that's exacly what happened, and is exacly what's happening to the world order and the american experiment, and will happen on the next experiments, unavoidably?