Plato dialogues tier list

[Anonymous No.21892668]

>S Tier
Phaedrus, Symposium
>A Tier
Phaedo, Gorgias, Euthyphro, Crito
>B Tier
Alcibiades, Meno, Hippias, Trial
>C Tier
Ion, Cratyles, Laches
>Didn’t read Tier
The rest

Rate, post yours

[Anonymous No.21892677]

>F, tier
All of them.
Philosophy is garbage.

[Anonymous No.21892687]

>>21892677
Fuck off nigger

[Anonymous No.21892689]

>>21892668
Ion is cool though

[Anonymous No.21892691]

>>21892689
Yes really funny

[Anonymous No.21892723]

>>21892668
>no Parmenides
anon you haven't even started reading Plato

[Anonymous No.21892730]

>>21892677

[Anonymous No.21892821]

>>21892677
>>21892730
Stop spamming this midwit in unrelated threads

[Anonymous No.21892831]

>>21892668
>no Parmenides
>no Statesman
>no Laws
>no Republic
>no Theaetetus
>no Sophist
>no Philebus
>no Timaeus
>Meno as B tier
nigga wtf is wrong with you

[Anonymous No.21893050]

>>21892831
>>21892668
why did this chud write so many books

[Anonymous No.21893084]

>>21893050
Chudon had things to say

[Anonymous No.21893141]

>>21892668
>S
1st Alcibíades, Menexenus, Sophist, Lesser Hippias
>A
Phaedo, Gorgias, Parmenides, Timaeus, Euthyphro, Philebus, Theaetetus, Symposium, Ion, Apology, Lysis, 2nd Alcibiades, Phaedrus, Laws
>B
Republic, Meno, Major Hippias, Charmides, Clitophon, Laches, Rival Lovers, Cratylus
>C
Protagoras, Crito, Critias, Minos,
>didn’t read
Letters.
>Trash
Hipparchus

[Anonymous No.21894038]

Reading Plato is on the out. We have finally, as a society, realized that he was an unapologetic racist, homophobic, sexist, and a literal fascist. As much as we want to rehabilitate figures of the past, Plato is NOT one of the good guys. Even in a society which was teetering on the brink of genuine LGBT acceptance, Plato took a position against queer rights. He may be singly responsible for the extreme homophobia experienced by the turn of the millenium.
Anyway, the to realize just how Plato was on the wrong side of history, you need to read Theaetetus, Sophist, and Statesman, and finally the Laws. Those will certainly be in any chud's top list of this pathetic racist "Plato."

[Anonymous No.21894071]

>>21892668
>GOAT
Phaedo
Phaedrus
Timaeus
>Great
Critias
Apology
Lesser Hippias
>Good
Greater Hippias
Cratylus
Ion
>Average
Euthyphro
Statesman
Meno
>Forgettable
Sophist
Laches
Euthydemus
>Pointless
Parmenides
Philebus
Protagoras

[Anonymous No.21894074]

>>21892668
Timaeus is the greatest Plato dialogue. Only hylics would disagree.

[Anonymous No.21894078]

[Anonymous No.21894087]

>>21892730
incredibly lame

[Anonymous No.21894314]

>>21892730
>dude I'm si insane and quirky lmao xD
The Rick and Morty of philosophers, worthless drivel.

[Anonymous No.21894341]

>>21892668
Phaedrus has one of the most beautiful and sensual descriptions of falling in love I have ever read

[Anonymous No.21894436]

>>21894038
kys troonigge
Plato is second only to Diogenes.

[Anonymous No.21894446]

>>21892668
IMAGINE having read none of the late dialogues.. or even the Republic. The Phaedrus is only top tier when you haven't read Philebus, Theaetetus, Sophist etc.

[Anonymous No.21894455]

>>21892668
Ion and Republic are also S/A tier, Timaeus too. Agree with the rest. Need to read Parmenides.

[Anonymous No.21894841]

Blessed thread. Plato is the most /lit/.

[Anonymous No.21895330]

>>21892677
Wittgenstein highly recommended reading Theaetetus. But I guess you also consider Wittgenstein garbage too, because all philosophy is garbage.

[Anonymous No.21895452]

>>21895330
Wittgenstein recommended it as an example of what he took to be bad philosophy. He bitches about how Plato didn't consider enumerating examples of knowledge as a start to answering what knowledge is, as though Theaetetus doesn't try to do exactly that, so he wasn't exactly a careful reader of it.

[Anonymous No.21895542]

>>21895452
> He bitches about how Plato didn't consider enumerating examples of knowledge as a start to answering what knowledge is, as though Theaetetus doesn't try to do exactly that, so he wasn't exactly a careful reader of it.
You got it wrong.

[Anonymous No.21895556]

>>21894038
>as a society
I know this is bait, but daily reminder that anyone who uses this sort of terminology is a fucking sociopath.

[Anonymous No.21895598]

>>21892668
> S tier
Parmenides, Sophist, Timaeus, Philebus

not ranking the rest, don't care

[Anonymous No.21895884]

>>21895542
No,

>The idea that in order to get clear about the meaning of a general term one had to find the common element in all its applications has shackled philosophical investigation; for it has not only led to no result, but also made the philosopher dismiss as irrelevant the concrete cases, which alone could have helped him to understand the usage of the general term. When Socrates asks the question, "what is knowledge?" he does not even regard it as a preliminary answer to enumerate cases of knowledge. If I wished to find out what sort of thing arithmetic is, I should be very content indeed to have investigated the case of a finite cardinal arithmetic.

From the Blue notebook. Post-dating his single positive reference to Theaetetus in a letter from '31. Socrates asks what knowledge is at 145e-146a, and Theaetetus enumerates examples at 146c-d. Wittgenstein, as I said, is bitching about something that happens on the very same page of the dialogue as though it didn't.

[Anonymous No.21897276]

>>21894341
What passage? Not the black horse being a horndog, surely?

[Anonymous No.21897286]

every single time i read his dialogues, i replace one character with destiny, another with hasan, another with train, and another with xqc and then i act like twitch chat and spam emotes XD

[Anonymous No.21897555]

Of what I've read (currently reading Republic)
>S
Gorgias, Symposium, Lysis, Phaedo, Apology, Hippias Major, Euthydemus
>A
Cratylus, Crito, Euthyphro, Ion, Protagoras
>B
Charmides, Hippias Minor
>C
Laches, Clitophon
>D
Meno

[Anonymous No.21897560]

>>21892668
Cratylus is hated here only because you have no interest in learning the Greek language. The idea that Athena’s root word is “Thea” was actually mindblowing to me when I read it.

[Anonymous No.21897761]

>>21892668
I've not read so much Plato, but hearing many people rank Euthyphro so highly really makes me think it's not as worthwhile as people make out.

[Anonymous No.21898257]

>>21897761
>Filtered by the easiest dialogue
Kek
>Influenced by the majority of people instead of examining the thing and making your own mind up
Read more plato

[Anonymous No.21898723]

>>21897560
>The idea that Athena’s root word is “Thea” was actually mindblowing to me when I read it.
Do you take it that that's seriously meant? The opening joke of the dialogue about Socrates taking the cheaper less comprehensive course of Prodicus and Socrates' frequent announcement that he's inspired by Euthyphro make me doubt a good deal.

[Anonymous No.21899273]

>>21898723
It’s possible. Plato describes insight as akin to sight in The Republic (Books VI-VII I believe).

[Anonymous No.21899278]

>>21892677
This, but use a Stirner pic instead

[Anonymous No.21899379]

I cant rank them, i find myself almost forgetting a dialogue exists or that i have read it, read it again and have it as the best platonic dialogue

[Anonymous No.21900451]

>>21898257
>Filtered by the easiest dialogue
I meant that it didn't feel profound at all. I know a lot of foundational thought is drawn from Plato, but there was nothing in it that I hadn't thought about before high school with the same level of rigor.

>Influenced by the majority of people...
I need some metric to use as a litmus test for what to waste my time on and what not to.

[Anonymous No.21900831]

>>21900451
>didn't feel profound
How is it not profound? It is an appropriate introduction to the Socratic method, especially in its application to piety as valued by the Greeks. It takes a convention and turns it on its head by asking questions concerning its basis and definition, something very helpful for one being introduced to Plato. Just because it's for beginners doesn't mean it's not profound.

[Anonymous No.21901646]

>>21900831
In the same way that 1+1=2 is not profound to anyone who hasn't just had a lobotomy. You can have a good whine over the words I used to say that it was incredibly simplistic to the point of banality if you want though.

[Anonymous No.21902132]

>>21901646
>blah blah blah Socratic method is simplistic blah
Found the retard