/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.21880473]

How do I get my girlfriend to read Evola and Guenon?

[Anonymous No.21880478]

Suck her dick

[Anonymous No.21880477]

>>21880473
Gently encourage him by leaving open copies around at strategic locations

[Anonymous No.21881093]

>>21880477
>>21880478
>shudras
When will they learn?

[Anonymous No.21881102]

His face looks like it was drawn by a 6 year old.

[Anonymous No.21881117]

>>21881102
This will never be funny. Do you have autism?

[Anonymous No.21881148]

>>21880473
She's unlikely to read Evola because he is verbose as shit, feels the need to constantly delve into pointless off-topic rants, and expects an almost encyclopedic knowledge of arcane topics on the part of his reader (not meant as criticism, he wrote some good shit, it's just not accessible unless you have a really strong interest in the subject matter at hand).

With Guenon, his most accessible book is Crisis, short, snappy, to the point. That's what I' encourage her to read. I personally find Guenon very readable except when he's dealing with really deep initiatic stuff or Hindu metaphysics. His books on spiritism are actually comedic. But yeah, Crisis is the way to go. Great book, and contains a lot of stuff I think even normies will nod along to

[Anonymous No.21881150]

>>21881093
Problem?

[Anonymous No.21881178]

>>21881117
I thought it was humorous

[Anonymous No.21881191]

>>21880473
These almost look like basedjaks. Is this what you look up to?

[Anonymous No.21881222]

>>21881117
I thought it was a funny remark too. And I love Guenon. I actually lol'd.

[Anonymous No.21881474]

bump for tranny seethe

[Anonymous No.21882024]

>>21881117

[Anonymous No.21882228]

>>21880473
Guenon was a creepy ass nigga

[Anonymous No.21882240]

>>21880473
Evola's ain't for women and he's not the sort of author whose books you're supposed to parade around
unless you either completely missed his points or didn't actually bother reading any of him

[Anonymous No.21882301]

>>21880473
German traditionalism > Romance traditionalism

Kant, Holderlin, Goethe, Kierkegaard, Wagner, Nietzsche, Jung and Heidegger are a thousand times deeper, and above all more honest, than these LARPers. Lutheranism is more traditional than Catholicism ever was. It isn't surprising that Guenon, a Frenchman, had to look to exotic foreign cultures for his 'tradition' when his own culture, and religion, was an artificial Latinate creation. Or that Evola had to rely on Nietzsche, Wolfram, the German 'Ur', etc. Western tradition is Greece, but these 'Traditionalists' barely consider it. Only Germany understood Greece.

[Anonymous No.21882307]

>>21882301
Anon, half of those names you listed are romantics

[Anonymous No.21882325]

>>21882307
Yes, the era of the full rebirth of German tradition.

[Anonymous No.21882330]

>>21880473
Mention their gayness... She's a fag-hag, probably...

[Anonymous No.21882911]

>>21882301
You don't understand the point of Traditionalism. It is fundamentally esoteric. You aren't even able to engage with Traditionalist ideas at this point, seriously.

So many people make this mistake, stop being midwits or just full on retards.

>>21882330
>reposts shitty fake quote for the 50th time
Do you know what a fucking loser you are?

[Anonymous No.21882914]

>>21880473
Pretend you’re writing a book and give her their writing asking for a critique

[Anonymous No.21882931]

>>21880473
A traditional Guenon and Evola reader has a girlfriend and not a wife that was ordained by that which is higher? Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.21882940]

>>21882301
Evola shills for the classical (i.e. Greco-Roman) worldview constantly. I suspect you haven't read him.

[Anonymous No.21882945]

>>21880473
Are these guys like /lit/'s new Pynchon or David Foster Wallace?

[Anonymous No.21882946]

>>21882931
He’s actually married but doesn’t want to get the government involved. Common law marriage or marriage in international waters

[Anonymous No.21882995]

Yeah, good luck with that, mate. Most men can't even handle their writings. Although, you could try to give her a copy of "The Metaphysics of Sex", but I don't think she would be happy with you if she were to look up the author of it...

[Anonymous No.21883755]

>>21882946
You're not really married if it isn't sanctioned by The Church™

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[Anonymous No.21884631]

>>21882911
You quite literally said nothing in this post, not even what I don't understand or my mistake. Like most of Guenon's criticisms of Germany, it's just another sophism. To hide behind 'esoteric' like this, when you really have nothing to say, does the highest dishonour to the esoteric. Do you think Holderlin says nothing esoteric? But I wager you only think old and vague systematisms pass for your 'esoteric', so that I did not demonstrate some such systemising, or even criticised the systemising of Traditionalists, you can simply blurt out 'esoteric' under never so shallow a meaning. Your 'esoteric' is more an aesthetic image and style than an idea.

>>21882940
And he didn't see anything unique in it.

[Anonymous No.21885187]

>>21884631
Wrong. I said you don't understand the esoteric, which is accurate. Why? Because you make no distinction between esoteric and exoteric, and then go on to critique Trads from this conflation of concepts. Similarly, you're conflating the spiritual and the material. If you don't believe in the spiritual, that's fine, just say so and make an argument from that point of view. But don't muddle everything together and then make hostile, retard-tier arguments.

Even apart from this your understanding of Traditionalism is so shallow, so again I don't know why you even bother talking about it. I guess you just enjoy plastering your ignorant opinion for all to see? Evola says Westerners should look to ancient Greece for inspiration, he also recognizes other manifestations of a Western Tradition. Don't you know this? Evola didn't have to rely on Nietzsche at all, except for possibly in his very early years, before he was even writing much. He sought to rectify some Nietzche's ideas from a Traditionalist warrior-aristocrat worldview. Evola also praised Germany over Italic culture, so what are you even saying?

Guenon doesn't like the Greeks as much because they deviate from his conception of Traditionalist metaphysics. I don't really care, he's probably correct from the point of view of the Brahmin.

>And he didn't see anything unique in it.
Lol he refuted you and now you're shifting the goalposts? stop being an autistic faggot.

[Anonymous No.21885219]

>>21881117
his face does look like it was drawn by a child

[Anonymous No.21885226]

>>21880473
Grow a mustache and start wearing a stylish frameless monocle.

[Anonymous No.21885239]

>>21882301
Greeks Romans and Germans are the only ones who matter in Europe, anything else is a cope. To this day I find it almost despicable that traditionalists have to revert to fucking weird ass outer world practices and shamanisms to talk of something eternal and transcendent instead of looking at Germany and Germanics. I think its a form of jealousy, especially profoundly felt by French&Anglos against the simple, honest, brave German genius. Amen

[Anonymous No.21885260]

>>21880473
women will never understand these two

[Anonymous No.21885373]

>>21885187
'You don't understand/believe in the esoteric', woah, nice argument there. Could you provide a single support for anything you've claimed here? Your calling me a materialist is on the same level of sense as a scientologist calling someone an SP because they disagree with their worldview.

>Evola says Westerners should look to ancient Greece for inspiration
Not relevant at all. In Germany there is a unique recognition of the Hellenistic, while Evola's praise for the Hellenistic is superficial, a universalised conception from his ideal Tradition. You resort to your sophisms once more when you rebound with 'he also recognizes other manifestations of a Western Tradition'. You want honesty in what one believes, yet you ignore it to misrepresent. Was my point of contention ever that Greece was the only manifestation of the Western tradition?

>Guenon doesn't like the Greeks as much because they deviate from his conception of Traditionalist metaphysics.
Thank you for unnecessarily restating my point. Yet, you should know, saying 'I don't really care though' isn't an argument. Whatever does not fit into Procrustes' bed of Traditionalism is ignored or criticised as being un-Traditional, so there is revealed a really not too deep instinct behind it. But of course there's no room for personal motivation in a system...

[Anonymous No.21886306]

>>21880473

[Anonymous No.21887420]

>>21885239
Their inferiority makes them HATE the Germanics.

[Anonymous No.21888119]

>>21880473
what the fuck is wrong with you guys? why do online right wingers want their women to be exactly like them? theres a more recent video of sam hyde talking about how he would always get messages from fans asking for advice on how to redpill their gf in various ways. if you have a gf and she isnt inclined toward this thought then there is a very slim chance youll convert her. either find a girl who is genuine in her "conservatism" and isnt just a pick-me tradwife fascist.

[Anonymous No.21888123]

--or cope with what you have. oopsie daisy

[Anonymous No.21888497]

>>21885373
>Could you provide a single support for anything you've claimed here?
Your entire post treats the esoteric, exoteric and profane philosophy as if they were all the same category. You're pretending like Lutheranism or philosophy is even in the same realm as esoteric Traditionalism. It's not even worth talking to you.

[Anonymous No.21888506]

>>21885239
Anglos and French are German, they just got taken over by freemasonry because their genetics aren't as pure.

[Anonymous No.21889708]

Bump for antifa tranny seethe

[Anonymous No.21889794]

>>21888497
This is all a confusion on your part. Do you think Lutheranism has no esoteric tradition? You only deny it according to the arbitrary dogma of a Frenchman. For whom Aquinas was certainly in the same realm as esoteric Traditionalism. You would have to be blind to not see the significance of Kant's philosophy for Tradition in Germany, or how indubitably he belongs to that Tradition.

Guenon arrogantly dismissed anything that investigated things in a different way to him, and that includes Greece and Germany.