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What are the best books to understand the right wing critiques to capitalism? I read an extract to Spengler’s Prussian socialism or something like that and that nigga was acclaiming capitalism but calling it socialism

>> No.21878577

>>21878575
>acclaiming capitalism but calling it socialism
>he doesn't know

>> No.21878581

There is no right-wing critique of capitalism, look what happens when they come into power, and how they get into power in the first place, who enables them. Capitalists loved Hitler, Mussolini, Pinochet, etc.

>> No.21878588

>>21878581
Mussolini bitched about capitalism a lot, that make me extremely disappointed because fascist aesthetics are hard af but I can’t agree with a political system that causes economic misery

>> No.21878615

>>21878588
Fascism isn't anti-market or anti-entrepreneur or even anti-capital, it's just anti-international usurious capital (Leihkapitel).

>The enemy is Das Leihkapital. Your Enemy is Das Leihkapital, international, wandering Loan Capital. Your enemy is not Germany, your enemy is money on loan. And it would be better for you to be infected with typhus, and dysentery, and Bright's disease, than to be infected with this blindness which prevents you from understanding HOW you are undermined, how you are ruined.
Ezra Pound, radio broadcast

>“ The best place for keeping money is in the pockets of the people.” We have had the century of the “benefits of concentration of capital” (and the malefits).
>Rephrase Jefferson’s saying: “The best place for a nation’s reserve of credit is in as many individual pockets as possible.”
>Paper money in the popular pocket would not breed stagnation and it would not stay there for the reasons of oriental hoarding. The popolano would want to show it was there. Its distribution would mean greater mobility of goods.
>[N]ote that Mussolini is NOT a fanatical statalist wanting the state to blow the citizen’s nose and monkey with the individual’s diet. IF, when and whenever the individual or the industry can and will attend to its own business, the fascist state WANTS the industry and the individual to DO it, and it is only in case of sheer idiocy, incapacity or simple greed and dog-in-the-mangerness that the state intervenes to protect the unorganized PEOPLE; public; you me and the other fellow.
>As far as financial morals are concerned, I should say that from being a country where practically everything and anything was for sale, Mussolini has in ten years transformed it into a country where it would even be dangerous to try to buy out the government.
Ezra Pound, Jefferson and/or Mussolini

Basically just trustbusting. Free enterprise and autonomy are ideal and protective measures are only necessary for breaking up things like, for example, today's utterly predatory fractional reserve banking (inventing money from thin air and then laundering it around the world to produce nothing while sapping interest payments from the dwindling class of real producers - hence real wages not having gone up in 50 years while the GDP skyrockets). We went from a world where the ideal was quality manufacturing so that products can be bought once and maintained intergenerationally, to "you will own nothing and you will be happy," to "goods as a service," etc. To the whole world being "online" so that your access to your own car or milk carton can be shut off, or your bank accounts with your Star Wars credit chits frozen, via state intervention.

All this is the result of international usury decoupling the value of money from real production. Fascist states aren't against the progressive effects of capital investment, they are against the monopolization of "capitalism" by financiers and the deep state.

>> No.21878616

>>21878581
Capitalists didn’t like Hitler and Mussolini, maybe Pinochet, but that’s beside the point, the first two got attacked for starting their own central bank.

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>>21878615
And for the record Mussolini also broke up the mafia, which not only instantly came back after the Allies defeated Fascist Italy, but was actually aided and propped up by the Allies because the finance leviathan only understands governance in terms of economic vassal states and oligarchies. It can't deal honestly or have an honest trade relationship with another nation, it can only think in terms of "what is the local stagnant oligarchy that has the most cronyist control over corrupt politics in this country, and how do I give it a few luxury goods/status symbols, like admission to Harvard and Oxford, in exchange for it letting me dominate this country indefinitely from the comfort of my foreign stock exchange?"

>> No.21878637

>>21878616
Everybody who tries to break free from the global financial system does poorly. Allende and Peron understood one another and Peron said Allende was going to get himself killed by nationalizing the banks because that would incite the Americans to direct intervention:
https://jacobin.com/2021/09/salvador-allende-popular-unity-government-chile-quimantu-industrial-textile-democracy-nationalization-banks-copper

On Peron:
https://counter-currents.com/2014/12/kerry-boltons-peron-and-peronism/

Also worth looking into Ceaucescu paying off Romania's national debt and suspending all foreign borrowing, and obviously Gaddafi.

>> No.21878648

>>21878575
Keith Woods gives solid rightwing critiques of Capitalism if you don't mind the video format

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFpdb_uaQVA&ab_channel=KeithWoods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGM4hCFXNE4&ab_channel=KeithWoods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toft6H11-a0&ab_channel=KeithWoods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfHGLcRz-P8&ab_channel=KeithWoods

>> No.21878666

https://www.counter-currents.com/tag/breaking-the-bondage-of-interest/
https://counter-currents.com/2014/10/kerry-boltons-the-banking-swindle/
https://counter-currents.com/2014/11/central-banking-and-human-bondage/

https://c2cjournal.ca/2009/06/where-marx-and-conservatives-meet-the-writings-of-paul-piccone/

And EVERYBODY should read this page, and then read Quigley's "Anglo-American Establishment," regardless of their political persuasion:
https://thirdworldtraveler.com/Banks/Tragedy_Hope_excerpt.html

And read the first chapter of The Law of Civilization and Decay, the one on what happened to ancient Rome (it's only like 40 short pages):
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44908/44908-h/44908-h.htm#p_1

>> No.21878719

>>21878648
>>21878666
Nice

>> No.21878799

>>21878575
The Truth About the Slump by Arthur Nelson Field

>> No.21878864

>>21878575
Right-wing critiques fall into a number of camps:
>efficiency-maximizing forms of capitalism are often not based in real-world production (and employ as major drivers speculation and usury)
>capitalism destroys barriers to efficiency that we, as people, would rather not be destroyed (religion, small business, ideals regarding education, etc)
>capitalism employs technology in a positive feedback loop which has the effect of centralizing immense capital and power in the hands of increasingly few individuals while robbing the vast majority of it
>the consumer economy is predicated on a model of addiction, planned obsolescence, the culture industry, and the cult of consumption

I think many of these critiques find their most clear and accessible expressions in authors that may not be strictly right-wing.
>Lasch, The True and Only Heaven
>Hirschman, The Passions and the Interests
>Ellul, The Technological Society
>That part where Adam Smith talks about the downside of the acquisitive impulse, namely the sapping of the martial spirit and virtues
>Slate Star Codex, Meditations on Moloch
>Marx on Alienation
>Adorno on the Culture Industry

>> No.21879715

>>21878581
>CaPiTaLiSm In DeCaY
Shut up faggot read the Faces of Janus. Your talking points derive from communist confusion about why the working class hate their guts.

>> No.21879724

>>21879715
No. Seethe more rightoid/agent of capital (the two inseparable).

>> No.21879945

>>21878637
Our insistence on causing misery to other people just seems knee jerk to be honest but your average leftist would just think it’s American imperialism when it goes much deeper than that, you see, Europe foisted their Jews on us and they ended up controlling our markets so ipso facto maybe it’s the whole shebang with either Europe is allowed to be auntie Semitic or we are, and there ain’t room in this town for the both of us.

>> No.21880481

>>21879724
Unfortunately leftism, like all forms of capitalism, always fails to overcome its own materialism and therefore undermines its own attempt at a critique.

>> No.21881155

>>21878575
Othmar Spann - The True State, if you actually want something written by an actual economist

>> No.21881946

>>21878575
Ideas have Consequences by Richard Weaver

Decline of the West by Spengler