Irrefutable

[Anonymous No.21784157]

Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

[Anonymous No.21784168]

>Search your feelings
facts don't care about my feelings though

[Anonymous No.21784181]

>>21784168
They do if you have the right feelings.

[Anonymous No.21784184]

>>21784168
fpbp
Faggot OP BTFO
/thread

[Anonymous No.21784216]

>>21784184
Touched a nerve did I?

[Anonymous No.21784221]

Dawkins doesn't even begin to address this "steelmanned" argument for the existence of God.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxYbA1pt8LA
https://vitrifyher.wordpress.com/2018/11/22/the-case-for-the-physical-existence-of-god/

[Anonymous No.21784240]

>>21784221
Arguments are for fags. Why don't you show your smelly sky wizard, prick

[Anonymous No.21784248]

>>21784221
Because it is beneath contempt.

[Anonymous No.21784255]

>>21784221
Did Dawkins steal his shirt?

[Anonymous No.21784259]

>>21784168
>>21784184
But that’s it. Your feelings are hurt by the truth. Fuck your feelings

>>21784216
Oh, OP. C’mon. Awful thread.

[Anonymous No.21784261]

>>21784216
you can touch these nuts

[Anonymous No.21784271]

>>21784259
Why is my thread awful?

[Anonymous No.21784278]

>>21784221
>the-physical-existence-of-god/
So, Zeus. Or the Prometheus (2012) set up.
How dumb. No religion on Earth will back this up. You and your shirtless kid are going to have to found a new cult

[Anonymous No.21784292]

>>21784271
Because Christtards can't handle the truth.

Whuch is of course that Jesus was the first actual atheist

[Anonymous No.21784301]

>>21784157
I can't search my feelings, I look around me and can't find nonsense. Everything is flat and solid, and yet it sticks together. What connection can there therefore be beetween things if not a supernatural one? I have sperm in my balls, it gets out of my dick, which goes into a vagina, where ovaries are located. All those things are blunt objects and non magical, yet they are wired by milions of different and fucking specific factors that make them tie together perfectly, how you expect me to think these things can happen without a higher hand involved? it's not like they have a will of their own. I don"t know if there is a universal argument for what I just said but I would call it "things don't have a conciousness of their own so how do they work and stick together" keep in mind I am not talking about intelligent design nor any blind watchmaker, just how each thing is extremely specific and had literally no reason to work and stick together without a god involved. God on the other hand would be just one thing, that always was, non solid and supernatural.

[Anonymous No.21784308]

>>21784278
Anon made an awful point with that shirtless atheist, because he killed himself 4 years ago, so much fkr beliving

[Anonymous No.21784318]

>>21784301
>my balls make sperm
>therefore Jaysus

America was a mistake

[Anonymous No.21784343]

>>21784271
>>21784292
Because I thought you had bowed out to this fallacy >>21784168 I read “touché”
Ignore.
But there’s already a thread of this book…
his feelings are hurt by the facts

>>21784308
>shirtless kid is an atheist
I’m lost. Sorry to hear he offed himself.

[Anonymous No.21784465]

>>21784318
There has to be a god. yes think about how the balls can literally get every genetic information from your body into each sperm, it doesn't make any fucking sense

[Anonymous No.21784516]

>>21784465
Billions of years of nature trying out everything it can, until something works

[Anonymous No.21784517]

>>21784465
Yeah it does. Study a little microbiology and evolution of the single to multicellular organisms.

If by some miracle living creatures have immortal souls that are somehow created at birth, or thereabouts, and can survive death to drift around some dream-state, there doesn’t need to be a creator of these. Not only does that not make sense, its existence is as wholly unnecessary as it is impossible.

[Anonymous No.21784577]

>>21784465
I've got an airfield to sell you on a primitive Pacific island

[Anonymous No.21784903]

>>21784157
An enemy that numbers time in millennia with a cultural basis that goes back to preliterate man and symbolism rooted in primordial homonids appears!
>[(You)--Choose your fighter]!
a) Richard Dawkins: rat-faced evolutionary biologist who popularized the word meme (secret weapon: Scientism; weakness: Kafka)
b) Sam Harris: midwit who solved the problem of induction (secret weapon: meditiation; weakness: complex thought)
c) Christopher Hitchens: reformed commie/former fag with a talent for rhetoric (secret weapon: alcoholic snark (aka Hitchslap); weakness: Neoconservatism)
d) Daniel Dennett: Saturday morning philosopher (secret weapon: midwit empowerment (aka Reddit); weakness: phenomenology)
>(You): WEAPONIZED CONDESCENTION! ALL FOUR HORSEMEN, I CHOOSE (You)s!
*****[Fight!]*****
>(You) choose: YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN SANTA CLAUS, DO YOU?!
[Counter attack: nuance. Enemy isn't 4 and is unimpressed you don't believe in Santa. Attack is ineffective.]
>(You) choose: WHY DON'T YOU WORSHIP ZEUS?!
[Counter attack: nuance. Even myth is meaningful in a way not reducible to materialism. Attack is ineffective.]
>(You) choose: SCIENCE THOUGH!
[Counter attack: nuance. Enemy brings up the history of science and its complex relationship and continuing interplay with religion. Attack is ineffective.]
>(You) choose: FEDORA TIP!
[Counter attack: enemy is laughing.]
>(You) choose: NO YOU!
[Counter attack: enemy is laughing.]
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>[(You) have fainted.]

[Anonymous No.21785014]

>>21784903
>symbolism rooted in primordial homonids appears
oh so you're an atheist anyway lmao

[Anonymous No.21785260]

>>21785014
>oh so you're an atheist anyway lmao

[Anonymous No.21785321]

>>21785260
What happened to Dick?

[Anonymous No.21785352]

>>21784168
Your feelings help guide you to the truth.

[Anonymous No.21785384]

Sky wizard.

[Anonymous No.21785539]

>>21785352
Source?

[Anonymous No.21785560]

>>21785539
Feelings.

[Anonymous No.21785627]

>>21785321
He tried to read The Metamorphosis and it gave him a stroke.

[Anonymous No.21785654]

It's clear when you hear Dawkins talk about anything outside his specialty, he doesn't know shit. Near nothing about history, philosophy, or politics, even though this is where he gets his name recognition, rather than his actual field of study.
Dawkins has already publicly stated that he would never accept any evidence for God. That he has a presupposition that there can be no evidence, even if God came down from Heaven and spoke to him.
The fact that this is obliviously irrational, at least circular reasoning has not dawned on Dawkins or the retards who think he's a good role model. And, such circularity isn't even the problem. Rather, that he portrays himself as a man of science and reason without any presumptive beliefs, when he's a man of deep presumption and prejudicial thinking. It's a lack of self-awareness. Peak midwit.
This is the actual problem with fedorafags. Not necessarily atheism, but the pseudo-reasoning and pseudo-intellectualism. The fact that their intellect is profoundly lazy, yet prideful. Like when they call themselves rationalist (to mean nontheist in some sense), when they don't know what the words means, and that they're actually espousing empiricist viewpoints (a clarification which you can make in five minutes on wikipedia). It's lazy. It's why the neckbearded stereotype fits them so well.

[Anonymous No.21785665]

>>21785654
>Dawkins has already publicly stated that he would never accept any evidence for God
Could you please show me where he said this? I'm not trolling

[Anonymous No.21785666]

>>21785654
Based.

[Anonymous No.21785670]

>>21785665
NTA but I've heard him say as much.

[Anonymous No.21785683]

>>21785654
Like Nick Land says, atheists have more faith in the science than Christians have in Jesus.

[Anonymous No.21785696]

>>21784157
>star wars line

[Anonymous No.21785699]

>>21785665
He mentions it in this interview, though I don't remember where.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoQurwEZmmQ

[Anonymous No.21785706]

>>21785696
Ma nigga.

[Anonymous No.21785711]

>>21785683
Atheists are more indoctrinated by a vague notion of what constitutes "science" than Christians are by dogmatic interpretations of "Christ" underlaying their belief systems.

[Anonymous No.21785721]

>>21784157
>pic
kek, pathetic, by the fruits you tell the tree

[Anonymous No.21785731]

>>21785654
Wall of cope.

[Anonymous No.21785735]

>>21784240
Explain existence prior to the big bang. Sky wizard > science. Also life without god is pointless.

[Anonymous No.21785743]

>>21785735
Read "A Universe From Nothing" by Lawrence Kruass.

[Anonymous No.21785749]

>>21785743
He still demands an unexplainable miracle and he personally believes that there must be some "god" like creator.

[Anonymous No.21785765]

>>21785735
Life with sky wizard is pointless, the big bang was probably just some weapons test so "god" could learn how to kill their enemies better in some other universe.

[Anonymous No.21785769]

>>21785765
Pretty based take, desu.

[Anonymous No.21785773]

>>21785765
>Life with sky wizard is pointless
It's the opposite no?

[Anonymous No.21785780]

>>21785769
I know it is, like father like son, humanity is a reflection of it's creator and it's not good.

[Anonymous No.21785862]

>>21785773
No, it is pointless. World renowned physicist Edward Witten knows the mysteries of human consciousness will never be cracked by human scientific endeavors, our bodies are absorbed into the planet and reused and our consciousness will be as well. We will forever be broken down and reformed as new life in this mist of a weapons test we call a universe for all time. Nothing good about it.

[Anonymous No.21785873]

>>21785765
You can't just focus on sky wizard and forget about crucified necromancer.

[Anonymous No.21785908]

>>21785873
The various cult leaders are interesting but don't matter, their corpses will be resurrected just as the animals in their shit were resurrected to create new life.

[Anonymous No.21785968]

>>21785743
I have. He admits perturbations at the quantum level aren't "nothing" and Dawkins calls him the next Darwin in the afterword (eventhough there's no original theory in his book and the science is what you learn in the first 15 mins of an astrophysics class). It was a shit book and you wasted your time.

[Anonymous No.21785982]

>>21785968
> t. seething Christian

[Anonymous No.21785998]

>>21785982
I'm not Christian and I took a couple of astrophysics electives in uni. It was a garbage book even from a popular science perspective.

[Anonymous No.21786003]

>>21785982
>presents bad argument
>get told argument is bad
>'arguments don't matter, show me proof'
>get turned around
>try to argue
>lose
>'u-ur just seething'
This nigga gotta be a troll. Gotta be goofin on some dumb shit

[Anonymous No.21786033]

>>21786003
This guy seems like the typical fedora tipper: nonexistent understanding of even the basics of any particular scientific discipline while LARPing "science tho" based on a (pretty shitty) popular science book. Being driven to atheism by misplaced pride in one's nonexistent intellect has to be one of the most comical types of hubris ever to exist. We can thank midwits like Dawkins for that at least.

[Anonymous No.21786065]

>>21784157
The guy is losing his shit by talking to fundamentalist young earth creationists and it's hilarious. His every argument goes like:
>The bible literally says x
>But x is not science and therefore it's all bullshit because there is no way ancient esoteric texts are metaphorically explaining something that is beyond words and 5 senses

[Anonymous No.21786099]

>>21785706
someone should make a screencap with senator palpatine promising anakin unlimited scientific power

[Anonymous No.21786173]

>>21784308
>Anon made an awful point with that shirtless atheist
Him being dead doesn't mean his arguments are bad.

[Anonymous No.21786177]

>>21785699
Its from 12:36 to roughly 15:30, and onwards. He basically says something akin to what you said he said, however someone could not unreasonably argue that you were misrepresenting what he was saying.

[Anonymous No.21786229]

Great but I don't need a whole book to deduce that most "gods" written by people more than 2000 years ago are utter nonsense.

[Anonymous No.21786238]

>I don't need a whole book to deduce that most "gods" written by people more than 2000 years ago are utter nonsense.

[Anonymous No.21786245]

>>21784157
The central argument is complete trash
1. Some things were explained using god
2. Science explains some things
3. Science will explain all things eventually
4. God isn’t real


It’s trash sjrrouned by a bunch of sophistry

[Anonymous No.21786247]

>>21784465
>I'm too dumb to understand reality, therefore there must be a God
Thanks for summing up the religious mindset perfectly

[Anonymous No.21786256]

>>21784516
>nature trying out everything it can
So nature has a purpose?

[Anonymous No.21786274]

Why do so many atheists look unkempt and dysgenic, and if not, are very unpleasant people?
There's this guy, Edward Dutton, who thinks religiousness is actually an adaptive evolutionary trait, which is why atheists tend to be fond of self-sterilization and socially corrosive ideas not otherwise about theism, really. If you're capable of perceiving agencies (wolves or snakes in the wild), you're more likely to pay attention and survive.

It's all starting to make sense. Dawkins has an evil phenotype, the kind of evil Englishman physiognomy that people like Tony Blair have. And of course, (((Krauss))) was involved with (((Epstein))). Pinker and Harris also have descent from the tribe.
The prominent atheists, like Dawkins or Dennett, at least look put together and some have children, compared to the bulk of dedicated atheists, who are awash with dysgenic and unfit qualities. Which is clear when you go further down the hierarchy, towards the youtube/reddit atheists.
Matt Dillahunty is literally a cuck. The Amazing Atheist shoves foreign objects into his anus. Aron Ra clearly has some brain deformities. And each of these are overweight and highly neurotic.

[Anonymous No.21786404]

>>21786238
>2023
>still thinks this is an argument
>he is 37 years old

[Anonymous No.21786525]

>>21785711
We all know that Christcucks, especially protties pick and choose whatever they want about rabbi Yeshua and their cult. Another proof that god is dead.

[Anonymous No.21786529]

>>21786245
>Nooooooooooo don't take away le god to explain everything
>Btw you also have to accept medieval dogma about gays or something, kthxbye.

[Anonymous No.21786675]

>>21786525
>NOOOOO, YOU CAN'T GROW WITH CIVILIZATION OVER THE COURSE OF MILLENNIA!
>YOU HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH WHATEVER THE MOST OUTDATED THING IN THE BIBLE HAPPENS TO BE!
Retard.

[Anonymous No.21786692]

>>21786274
>There's this guy, Edward Dutton, who thinks religiousness is actually an adaptive evolutionary trait, which is why atheists tend to be fond of self-sterilization and socially corrosive ideas not otherwise about theism, really.
>priests are celibate

Great take retard

[Anonymous No.21786694]

>>21786675
>The word of Yahweh the eternal, the unchanging, the BEING, changes from century to century, especially recently when more people become gay from plastics in the drinking water, thank you Yahweh for changing our moralities
You're a genuine retard, you got groomed and now you LARP.

[Anonymous No.21786696]

>>21786675
Sounds really postmodern and relativistic

[Anonymous No.21786715]

>>21786675
Yeah fighting reality works and there is something new ynder the sun.

[Anonymous No.21786814]

>>21786694
>The word of Yahweh the eternal, the unchanging, the BEING, changes from century to century
Yeah, human understanding changes over time you complete and total retard. Where in the Bible does it say that all of humanity will forever remain static? Maybe you should focus on the fact stories that preexist written language were somehow able to touch upon a universality and have remained relevant for thousands of years (unless you're too busy jumping between your PornHub account and fedora wishlist on Amazon).
>>21786696
>Sounds really postmodern and relativistic
Nope. Atheists are just retards who don't understand theological understanding isn't static. Richard Dawkins is their main reference and don't even realize he is an ideologue only capable of going after lowhanging fruit.
>>21786715
>Yeah fighting reality works
YWNBAW

[Anonymous No.21786828]

>>21786814
>Yahweh says thou shalt not kill
>*Pulls up glasses* uhmmm akshually Yahweh sweetie you CAN kill people when xyz
You do realize you are refuting god yourself, you low IQ christcuck? You are proving that humans made god and all the rules and morality, lmao. You are so unselfaware you can't see your swarthy face in the mirror.

[Anonymous No.21786841]

>>21786828
>never thought of the fact his idea of religion projects that humanity is supposed to remain static
>can't answer to it
Just War Theory, something still taught in every university in the West, is derived from Christianity via Saint Augustine. So yeah--in general you're not supposed to murder people but religion, and reality for that matter, is a little more complicated than you seem to be able to comprehend. Did you decide on a fedora yet?

[Anonymous No.21786848]

>>21786841
>Christcucks use the philosophy of an eternal being who is perfect and unchanging
>Umm sweetie Yahweh can change genders, bring in the tranny priests
You do realize I'm using christcuck philosophy against you a larping Christcuck and you get triggered by it?

[Anonymous No.21786855]

>>21786692
That's mostly restricted to Catholicism (which wasn't that way for the first millennia) and Francis is considering ending it.

[Anonymous No.21786876]

>>21786848
>ACKTULLY I'M BEING RETARDED ON PURPOSE!
>THIS IS ACKTULLY CHRISTIAN PHILOSOPHY
You've done nothing but demonstrate your understanding of religion is shallow and have so far been unable to answer to the fact you project the idea that humanity is supposed to be static and unchanging. You think you're satirizing Christian philosophy but ignore that your reductive nonsense has been pointed out (i.e. "KILLING THO!"...yeah, Augustine and Just War Theory, retard) because it betrays your lack of intellect.

That's the thing with internet atheists. They think sperging the same shallow nonsense demonstrates intellect. They think not believing in something is evidence of their mental superiority but it's really just being an adult who expects others to be impressed you don't believe in Santa Claus. Satanic pride has never been more farcical than it is in the age of message boards and Made in China fedoras.

[Anonymous No.21786886]

>>21784157
Probably the most irrelevant book in existence, it is an irrefutable refutation of a point never made. Jesus himself wouldn't be offended by a book that so blatantly misses the entire point of christianity, it's borderline hilarious.

[Anonymous No.21786908]

>>21784168
Oof, Op recked in the fp.

[Anonymous No.21786927]

>>21786855
Oh, well then, that's the nail to that coffin then

[Anonymous No.21786997]

>>21786876
>Uhmm my Christianity is actually the true one.
Keep LARPing, you will never go to church, you will never read the Bible, you will never pray, you genuinely don't believe in god, you will be an angsty Christcuck LARPer on 4channel, lmao.
Enjoy your tranny priests.

[Anonymous No.21787064]

>>21784168
kek, fpbp

[Anonymous No.21787217]

>>21786997
I hope you get over your resentfulness and need to impress strangers on the internet. Good luck, retard.

[Anonymous No.21787272]

>>21784157
Her penis. Trust the science, bro.

[Anonymous No.21787491]

>>21784157
>Irrefutable
Lol? Well, OK, but only because it does not really make a relevant point to begin with, so there is nothing to refute. Meanwhile the book in pic related actually DOES make an irrefutable case for the afterlife, and has yet to be refuted. What we now know is that if Richard Dawkins hinself were to have a really deep NDE, it would convince him just like it has convinced atheist scientists before him. Neither his intense skepticism or his reasons for his intense skepticism are unique to him.

Therefore an afterlife exists, as demonstrated in pic related, and therefore he and his book is demonstrably wrong.

[Anonymous No.21787507]

>>21787491
This motherfucker be lookin like Satre was reincarnated as a Mormon.

[Anonymous No.21787520]

>>21784240
Reddit tier epithet, go back, you're not welcome herr

[Anonymous No.21787521]

>>21784157
We are bored of atheism.

[Anonymous No.21787531]

>>21787217
Not resentful, just don't like christcucks shitting my board. You're free to LARP on Facebook.

[Anonymous No.21787562]

>>21787531
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Imagine losing an argument to a christcuck, kek.

[Anonymous No.21787692]

>>21787562
>t. crypto-christcuck.

[Anonymous No.21787771]

>>21784157
Insufferable would be more accurate.

[Anonymous No.21787774]

>>21787692
You project a lot.

[Anonymous No.21787913]

>>21784168
fpbp
notice how OP is quoting the bad guys?

[Anonymous No.21787943]

>>21784516
Darwin's theory is the most retarded so I don't know why his is toted as the 'correct' one. It's much more likely living beings changed their own DNA to react to our environments than it randomly changing and those that randomly changed beings living on to become one distincy transformation of the species. By the randomness of that change most life on earth wouldn't live past a few centuries.

[Anonymous No.21788013]

>>21784157
not only dawkins but the entire new atheist movement was decimated by a single pic

[Anonymous No.21788023]

>>21784157
>

[Anonymous No.21788141]

>>21787943
Really? And what mechanism is behind all of this? Because this seems like a pretty big revolution in tge field of biology

[Anonymous No.21788166]

>>21787943
Read up on it

[Anonymous No.21788177]

>>21784157
The kike “god” maybe, but some type of creator is plausible.

[Anonymous No.21788226]

>>21784168
lol gottem

[Anonymous No.21788242]

>>21784221
Who is this shirtless autismo who keeps getting spammed here?

[Anonymous No.21788282]

>>21788242
He's an hero.

[Anonymous No.21788306]

>>21788166
>read popular science book with occasional spergs about religion
No thanks. This guy's a retard.

[Anonymous No.21788311]

>>21788306
It's an easy-reader science book that explains how evolution works. Unless you take a biology class, this is what you can handle right now. Just your reading level

[Anonymous No.21788342]

>>21788311
I took biology at the university level. I don't need to read a midwit sperging what I learned in the first couple classes of AP Bio over the course of hundreds of pages and seething about religion every 8 paragraphs.

[Anonymous No.21788478]

>>21785654
I agree. But I also take it firther and say atheism is meaningless at best and irrational at worst. Just midwit anti - Christian thinking at small scale social level.

[Anonymous No.21788487]

>>21786245
>>21786529

God isn’t scientific but also science will disprove god.

Literally terrible logic

[Anonymous No.21788488]

>>21785721

[Anonymous No.21788519]

>>21788342
>a midwit
He TEACHES university level, and you apparently failed your classes if you don't know how evolution works.
The book is on that topic. His expertise. Quit sperging

[Anonymous No.21788539]

>>21788519
I'm a different anon. I stepped in because you recommended a terrible book. If you go to a decent univeristy pic-related is your first year textbook.

[Anonymous No.21788556]

>>21788539
>a terrible book
It's an easy-reader for his soft head

[Anonymous No.21788731]

>>21788556
You should have sent him a rec for a philsophy of evolution book. Sending him a book by a smarmy retard who constantly diminishes his beliefs (of which Dawkins himself has no understanding) is futile.

[Anonymous No.21788799]

>>21788488
i was talking about the pathetic number of children

[Anonymous No.21788811]

>>21788799
inb4 he points out Hank 8 had the same problem.

[Anonymous No.21789995]

>>21788306
I like that in his old age he has come to admit that a world with religion is far better than one without.

[Anonymous No.21790093]

>>21789995
>le noble lie!

Why can't we just be agnostic? Surely the most rational approach.

[Anonymous No.21790101]

>>21789995
>be dawkins
>die
>find out there's an afterlife
>it's not exactly like Christianity said
>spend eternity sitting at the front gate
>sign autographs for fedoras
>sperg at Christians he's still right

[Anonymous No.21790122]

>>21790101
Alas, there is nothing.

[Anonymous No.21790124]

"There is no evidence of God."
There is also no physical evidence of abiogenesis, the chemical origin of life. Considering abiogenesis is a fundamental tenet of materialism, it's kind of a critical error in their world view.

[Anonymous No.21790134]

>>21788731
I didn't recommend your book, anon

[Anonymous No.21790145]

>>21790093
Because the fear of god is the only thing keeping most people from throwing you off a roof.

[Anonymous No.21790157]

>>21790093
Because the fear of god is the only thing keeping the majority of people from agreeing/voting to throw you off a roof. That would be the rational thing to do.

[Anonymous No.21790297]

>>21790093
This is what makes me hate atheists. If they were so rational and le scientific they'd quickly approach agnosticism as the conclusion but they got out of their way to shit on the possibility of there being sonething greater just so they can wank over having mastered their mortality.
Why I'm Christian is because I saw the devil, people worshipping the devil, powerful people worshipping the devil and concluded if the devil exists, his main goal would be to convince the public God (and also himself) didn't exist. You see some shit and just conclude it's demonic, there's a personified aspect of every good and bad in the universe so it majes sense they'd be extensions of beings.

[Anonymous No.21790320]

>>21790297
I'm not deist mind you, evil is just corrupted good.