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Just about exhausted after hearing someone rant about how much they love Stephen King. He had been isolating recently and needed someone to talk to, so I listened as best as I could out of concern.
He told me he had read twenty King books in the last year from the local library and he's now reading a new one. Someone apparently offered him a grant to study at some University in Maine associated with King, and he regrets turning it down. After he told me that he said "I would much rather have dinner with Stephen King than be his student, I would love to pick his brain." I tried to change the subject and got shot down, and everything about the conversation afterwards is a blur. I am so tired and I hope I never run into this guy again.

>> No.21773251

>>21773246
Remember that hate-filled rant by some guy a few weeks ago here on /lit/? We need another one of those.

>> No.21773269

>>21773251
I do not remember, but I wish I was there for it.

>> No.21773270

>>21773246
I went to a book sale and saw like 5 oversized filler novels by him

>> No.21773272

I have never read a Stephen King novel.

>> No.21773281

The dogs removed your picture lmao wtf

>> No.21773283

>>21773246
So someone tried to bond with you over something and you acted like an asshgole. Typical /lit/.

>> No.21773287

>>21773283
Feigning interest does neither of them any favours.

>> No.21773308

>>21773283
Well if I acted like an asshole by doing my best to politely listen to him, then I hope he thinks I'm an asshole now. Honestly I probably didn't help him that much by listening and I wish I had just made an excuse to not stick around.

>> No.21773319

>>21773270
Enough said.

>> No.21773331

>>21773272
>does nothing but ramble
>every novel could be a short story if it weren't loaded with expounding unnecessary details

>> No.21774570

>>21773331
And it's so frustrating because King is genuinely a great short story writer. The problem is once his stories are more than 100 pages long they just get bloated. It's a central issue with horror writing in my view; the emotions horror aims to invoke cannot be meaningfully sustained over hundreds of pages.

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>>21773269
I saved em for posterity’s sake

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>> No.21775367

>>21774570
Kinda true but The Stand and 11/22/63 were both great despite the long length. I think overall he is very hit or miss with his books

>> No.21775434

>>21775261
>>21775266
> Stephen King is le bad because.... HE JUST IS OKAY?!?! I have the degrees to prove it! Here, let me yank out several authors out of my ass to say they are le good.... BECAUSE THEY ARE!
> Also, let me remind my audience that Stephen King was a druggie. Let me mash that into your head. You have to know this because all of my favorite authors don't do this. Drugs are bad, mkay?

Jesus Christ. Give me the real reason as to why Stephen King's shit. Bring up some of his writings, and compare it others, rather than just saying he's le bad.

>> No.21775470

>>21775434
He explains why. Did you read it? He doesn’t know how to structure his chapters. He doesn’t know how to write good characters. He doesn’t understand tension.

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>>21775470
I did read it, and I disagree with his points. He can and has created coherent stories that have characters that one can relate with. Not only that, they have tension over a conflict that the reader has to read through the book to finally get catharsis. Pet Semetary and the Long Walk accomplish these metrics this degreed huckster is meting out.
Pet Semetary: A doctor, his wife and child move across from a Northeastern rural type. It just so happens that they live right beside a cemetery that the local children inter their pets. Further on is an ancient burial ground that causes whatever that gets buried there to be possessed by an ancient forest demon and "revive". The Northeastern Rural type knows what happened out there because of a previous altercation he had in the past, and only reveals the location once the Doctor loses his cat. Real conflict is created halfway in the story when the Doctor loses his son due to him getting hit by the truck. His wife moves out because her father and the Doctor get into an altercation at the funeral. Tension is created through this conflict because the Doctor realizes that he can try "reviving" his son through the ancient burial ground. The audience knows that bad things will happen as a result, And as such the rest of the story plays out with the reader getting conflict, tension, and catharsis at the very end of the book. Bam, mister "burger's and fries of literature" reaches that metric.
> The Long Walk: A boy enters in to a competition with one hundred other young men in who can run the longest. That's it. Whoever get's three strikes for going below the limit on how fast you can walk gets shot till dead. Now make a story out of the psychological implications of that. The conflict's on the tin, and tension is created throughout the book in wondering whether mister MC will survive the ordeal either in one piece/sane. Other characters have reason's why there running, and we get to see how they die throughout the book. Now I will concede that the ending was total trash, but I got my rollercoaster of tension throughout the book.
All this schlock about him being a druggie boomer that rages against Christianity and Americana is nothing more than ad-hominem smears. Maybe if he powered through the books he was trying to destroy he'd be able to write a more coherent argument as to why they were bad.

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You'd appreciate Banseeds of Inisherin.