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Tolstoy > Pseudstoevsky

>> No.21763363

Tolstoy was an aristocrat who had the luxury of honing his prose into pretty little little doorstoppers that are read by no one today.
Dosto wrote with a raw intensity that had to cover his debts with every rushed release, but came every work came packed with insights that still garner the attention of everybody today.
Only the most superficial of readers really care about Tolstoy and the only time anyone ever talks about him now is in comparison to Dosto, who has threads constantly.
Dosto won, get over it.

>> No.21763374

>>21763363
>read by no one today.

Anna Karenina is more popular today than anything by incelstoevsky

>> No.21763382

>>21763374
Ironic that you call him an Incel when Tolstoy was more denigrating and bitter to women than Dosto ever was.

>> No.21763391

>>21763382
And yet his female characters are far more dimensional and human

>> No.21763394

im on 1/3 of War and Peace and i cant wait to return to rainy depressing St. Petersburg of Dostoyevsky

>> No.21763404

>>21763391
so, unrealistic?

>> No.21763409

>>21763404
>average dusty incel

Bet you have described the underground man as literally you before

>> No.21763426

>>21763409
Prince Andrew Bolkonsky is literally me

>“Never, never marry, my dear fellow! That’s my advice: never marry till you can say to yourself that you have done all you are capable of, and until you have ceased to love the woman of your choice and have seen her plainly as she is, or else you will make a cruel and irrevocable mistake. Marry when you are old and good for nothing—or all that is good and noble in you will be lost. It will all be wasted on trifles. Yes! Yes! Yes! Don’t look at me with such surprise. If you marry expecting anything from yourself in the future, you will feel at every step that for you all is ended, all is closed except the drawing room, where you will be ranged side by side with a court lackey and an idiot!... But what’s the good?...”

>> No.21763446

>>21763409
Well considering that Dosto wrote the Underground Man as an extension of his Golyadkin-type to satirises the utopian “nihilism” of Chernyshevsky's novel ‘What is to be Done?’, you’d have to be a retard to read into it that way.
But I guess Tolstoy niggers don’t care about the background or ideas in novels and just instead meditate on a some more random exposition of how families are all equally happy or whatever and think it do be like that.

>> No.21763558

>>21763329
both are masters and both are required reading to continue using this board

>> No.21763583

>>21763329
Toltsoy

>> No.21763639

>>21763329
not this shit again. why everytime retards needs to make these DC x Marvel-tier discussions?

>> No.21763648

I like both.

>> No.21763673

Anna Karenina was good but Levin’s ending was hilariously anticlimactic.
>and basically he just realized everything was gonna be as it was, and that was cool. so that’s that : )

>> No.21763681

>>21763363
fpbp

>> No.21763749
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21763749

>>21763648

>> No.21763801

>>21763329
Tolsoy vs Doesoyevsky

>> No.21763847

>>21763404
In what way did Tolstoy write unrealistic women? I'd say he was one of the best in that regard. Dostoyevsky wasn't terrible but some of his female characters do feel a bit uncanny.

>> No.21763896

>>21763847
Which character specifically did you find uncanny?

>> No.21763908

>>21763363
fpbp

>> No.21764523

>>21763673
>but Levin’s ending was hilariously anticlimactic.
holy filtered

>> No.21764676

dosto was a based balzac reader so he wins

>> No.21764876

>>21763382
I just finished the Kreutzer Sonata... a bit disappointed. A good little train novel though.

>> No.21764893

>>21763382
well, can you blame him?

>> No.21765724

Dosto was higher in non-verbal IQ

>> No.21765743

Dostoyevsky would be hard zigger chud today
Tolstoy would stay same libcuck basedlord he was in early XX

>> No.21765747

>>21763558
>both are masters and both are required reading to continue using this board
these threads are just tranny spam
you'll learn over time how it all works
basically dosto/tolstoy are liked by chud nazis so these endless spam threads are aimed at creating a bitter atmosphere around the subject, creating division and on top of all trivializing the authors so that when you see a dostoevky thread or a tolstoy thread you mentally dismiss them because you've been annoyed by all those threads about them
all these threads are just made to shit things up. otherwise you'd have a russian literature general where you get to talk about pushkin or chekov of turgenev. but the point here isn't having a discussion, just creating a Pavlonian knee-jerk response in people to erode the perception of these two authors
this whole place is bot training central btw

>> No.21765771

>>21765743
You are definitely retarded. Has your government sterilized you yet? We can only hope so.

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21767168

>>21763329
Chechkov>

>> No.21767335

>>21763329
What makes you say that?

>> No.21767369

>>21763363
based
>>21763374
cringe

>> No.21768194

>>21763801
Kek

>> No.21768672

>>21765724
how can you tell

>> No.21768677

>>21763394
>1/3 of War and Peace
what is it about

>> No.21769670

>>21763329
What makes you say that?