/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.21644442]

>start reading again
>people point out that I am starting to speak in a needlessly elaborate and pretentious way

does this happen to anyone else

[Anonymous No.21644446]

Get a personality

[Anonymous No.21644453]

>>21644446
I am not doing it on purpose

[Anonymous No.21644455]

>>21644442
Learn laconic speech
Either way if someone dislikes you it is 99% because of physiognomy.

[Anonymous No.21644514]

>>21644455
> someone dislikes you it is 99% because of physiognomy
One of the most important redpills. Whether something out of the norm of a social group will generate rejection or admiration is almost purely a faction of how handsome/strong/charismatic the person uttering it is

[Anonymous No.21644543]

>we are less conscious while talking than while writing. and that is why, conversely, a writerly style of speech is repugnant to us. only a few manage to combine the speaker's elegance with the thoughtful clarity of the written style.
t. rivarol

>A principal use of the study of the ancients is that it preserves us from verbosity; for the ancients always take pains to write concisely and pregnantly, and the error of almost all moderns is verbosity, which the most recent try to make up for by suppressing syllables and letters. Therefore we ought to pursue the study of the ancients all our life, although reducing the time devoted to it. The ancients knew that we ought not to write as we speak. The moderns, on the other hand, are not even ashamed to print lectures they have delivered.
t. schopenhauer

but also this
>>21644455

[Anonymous No.21646223]

All the time anon. Have read a lot my whole life and consequently I have been told that I speak "weird" and use words that people don't understand. I don't do it on purpose either. When they point those words out I'm always surprised, for me they are normal vocabulary. I get a pass now because I am a teacher but as a teen people always thought I was pretentious.

[Anonymous No.21646230]

>>21644442
Even when my vocabulary was relatively minuscule I would routinely over explain and describe everything in a roundabout fashion.

[Anonymous No.21646231]

>>21644442
>needlessly
Ah, see mine is needful.

[Anonymous No.21646234]

>>21644442
If you’re not making people interested in what you’re saying and throwing humor and simplified speech in you’re a FAGGOT. Every tinder fuck has me explaining something on my shelves in autistic detail

[Anonymous No.21646243]

>>21644446
Personality isn't real. Good, bad, whatever. It's just a post hoc explanation for why you don't like someone or a way to insult someone.

[Anonymous No.21646833]

>>21646234
you have not had sex in the past 2 and a half years, I can tell by how you type, I also doubt you've fucked anyone off tinder, not because that's unbelievable but because you forced it into your statement for no reason

[Anonymous No.21647077]

>>21644453
Yes you are, dipshit

[Anonymous No.21647086]

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"i mean no intentions [friendship or otherwise] by this, though it is my only available form of almsgiving if you so accept"

why the fuck do i talk like this? all i did was give a random coworker who i don't know a candy bar

[Anonymous No.21647089]

>>21647077
No

[Anonymous No.21647090]

>>21644442
Honestly you just need to gauge the reading ability of the person you're talking to and adjust.

[Anonymous No.21647112]

>>21646223
I realised this after I had to explain the word 'ubiquitous' to a university flatmate and he tried to make it out like I'm weird.

[Anonymous No.21647142]

>>21644442
Sometimes I've been asked to explain certain words that I used, which is fine and should be done and I do it too, but one time it was said with the "precondition" that "people should only use words that they can explain" before I even had the chance to explain, which just felt needlessly hostile, and immediatly made me regard the person who said it as a retard (the word was "ambivalent"). Conversations are to a degree social games, and to me dropping the ball and getting sort of instinctivley hostile always feels like losing. So either the people that tell you you're being needlesly elaborate and pretentious are losers that feel threatend by even sligthly complex words, or you are a loser resorting to overly complex speech to stress your importance to the detriment of everyone else. You decide what's more likely

[Anonymous No.21647974]

>>21644442
No, why would it.

[Anonymous No.21647999]

>>21646833
Uhhh thats a bunch of cool commas dude but uhhhh post body

[Anonymous No.21648042]

>>21644442
I learned robust context switching early in life. I can talk to anyone whether they're wealthy or a juggaloz I can usually infer their jargon or slang but I don't attempt to use it. Often it's a good starting point for questions so you can show interest in the other person.
However as I get older I have less interest in playing conversation so I'm more quick to end a conversation politely than I used to be. Sometimes I force myself into longer interactions just to keep the skill up and it's just nice to show interest in others in general. Think how nice it would be if someone asked about what you're reading or something else personally pertinent.
But good lord some people are so shallow and vapid I'm amazed at how they make their way through world doing nothing more interesting than watching whatever is served up on the front page of their streaming apps. I have a really hard time understanding it but I try not to judge... Anyways just put a few more points into your attention skill.
You should be able to quickly ascertain how adept another person is at communicating and adjust both depth of topic and language on the fly.