/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.21608322]

Cornered Edition

Previous Thread:>>21599850


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[Anonymous No.21608364]

is pic related any good?

[Anonymous No.21608378]

Read The Wandering Inn, Read Mother of Learning, Read I Shall Seal the Heavens.

Also read The Prince of Nothing, Neuromancer, Cradle, A Song of Ice and Fire, Hyperion, Between Two Fires, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.21608389]

>>21608364
It's awful.

[Anonymous No.21608394]

>>21608364
just read it, you're not going to get a better story about a cool snipermage and his mute girlfriend

[Anonymous No.21608401]

>>21608364
Its trash. Just like this general souless pic.

[Anonymous No.21608402]

Stop asking for shitty books
Stop recommending shitty books

[Anonymous No.21608408]

>>21608364
>The age of kings is dead...
>"Just plain awesome." - Brandon Sanderson
>...And I have killed it

[Anonymous No.21608419]

>>21608402
Maybe he just played Greedfall, maybe he just finished watching Sharpe, and wants more.

[Anonymous No.21608420]

>>21608322
Why didn't you guys tell me Asimov was so witty and self-deprecating?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWyITeq4pzM

[Anonymous No.21608424]

>>21608322
I couldn't finish Iron Dragon's Mother, by far the weakest of the three and need to clease my pallete from failed attempts at finding new decent fantasy. So I'm going back to Wolfe. Started Latro in the Mist. Such a wonderful book so far.

[Anonymous No.21608426]

>>21608420
>self deprecating = good
Can you people please stop. Just stop, okay

[Anonymous No.21608431]

>>21608426
The example shows a high sense of wit. He says "I have never been afflicted with false modesty, or true modesty either, for that matter"

[Anonymous No.21608433]

>>21608364
Someone should add "It's just plain awesome - Brandon Sanderson" to that Ceder Rapids meme

[Anonymous No.21608444]

>>21602728
Eighth Warden webnovel on RR comes to mind. It's about a merc who has a magic trick or two and stumbles upon more power/magic, but he himself largely remains sword and board guy, tho the world and his companions do end up being much more magical than at the beginning.

[Anonymous No.21608463]

we need a good cyberpunk sci-fi that features 3000rpm spinning chinese factory carpet machines and the workers who wear neon lit hats works there operates the machines and he's a space marine he operates the lave and loves his job so much he makes sure that he records himself operating the spinning chinese factory machine. but the initiation of events propells him to look out the window during workhours and wonder if he's truly satisfied with life, then as he looks out the window he sees flying space boats full of space marines and thinks to himself that he should be on that boat and going to planet xyclon tardo to fight the aliens but he just wants a simple life, and the story basically starts from there. its an adventure/cyberpunk genre synopsis.

[Anonymous No.21608480]

Continuing from the previous thread, I'm going so say again that PKD wasn't a great or even a particularly good writer. Out of the whopping 44 novels he wrote, maybe 3 are o.k. (passable), and only 1 is actually good (Scanner Darkly). His 50s benzedribe-fueled shlock he cranked out for volume is genuinely unreadable, and you only need to read Three Stigmata to experience the best of his 60s output. Almost every book of his is the same rambling WHOA DUDE REALITY BUT TOO MUCH, it gets old super fast if you aren't a drug addict with burnt brains yourself, and his subpar prose doesn't help at all.

Only after his 70s psychotic episode (a result of decades of continuous amphetamine abuse) did he become a markedly different and better writer, deserving of his cult status. The lumpen maladroit prose of something like The Man in High Castle or DADoES is a different world from the supple doom-shaded vernacular of Scanner Darkly.

[Anonymous No.21608486]

>>21608480
Read VALIS trilogy and we can start talking.

[Anonymous No.21608488]

>>21608486
>DUUUUUDE MUH GNOSTICISM
>EVERYONE IS HYLIC BUT ME
Grow up

[Anonymous No.21608490]

>>21608488
That's one way to read it. I see it more about a dialogue about how literary form and formalism underpin how we go about writing novels, and how writers are situated within their worlds.

[Anonymous No.21608508]

>>21608364
Mormon nepotism at its finest

[Anonymous No.21608531]

>>21608480
he has a few good books and his life was more interesting than most of them because he was half a schizo

[Anonymous No.21608537]

>>21608531
>his life was more interesting than most of them
That's why his best book is Scanner Darkly, and his best short story is Cadbury, The Beaver That Lacked, because they are the most personal and autobiographical.

[Anonymous No.21608564]

Bakker - King

Will never read - chinks

[Anonymous No.21608600]

>>21608486
Not him but I did read him and I read around 10 of his novels. He's a writer I very much enjoy. But he's correct, Dick is repetative, was never very good at writing itself and is mostly still read because of the insane schizo rides he takes readers on.
>>21608480
I think Three Stigmata is his best and showcases what he does very well.

[Anonymous No.21608609]

The "hard sci fi" writers I've read aren't even that particularly scientifically conservative. They also seem to just write stuff that isn't merely "and this is a romance/adventure set in space with a thin veneer of science slapped on it"

[Anonymous No.21608627]

>>21608609
>The "hard sci fi" writers I've read aren't even that particularly scientifically conservative.
This series is billed as "hard sci-fi" for some reason

[Anonymous No.21608632]

>>21608600
I get he can be repetitive if you read him too much, but I think even PKD shows in the Exegesis that he intended to connect all his novels. So that's why it seems like similar sort of material.
>was never very good at writing itself
I don't get this meme. He's not there to wow you with prose since he's not a lyrical poetic sort of writer anyway. He makes it very clear cut and pared down, but never gets reduced to action like some amateurs, while also being very funny and illuminating when you don't expect it. His stuff is also more philosophical than anons here would grant him, since they reduce any investigation of a Platonic sort "schizo" without even explaining why that is the case.
I mean to get into his short stories, like "The Waterspider," since I know PKD was a very good short story writer.

[Anonymous No.21608648]

>>21608632
>He's not there to wow you with prose
Yeah, that's why he wasn't a particularly good writer. Any asshole can "tell you a story", good prose and the ability to be evocative is what sets good writers apart from the rest. Otherwise it's just "content".

[Anonymous No.21608652]

>>21608632
>He's not there to wow you with prose
His prose is mechanical and quite dull, sometimes even bad and not quite coherent. It certainly doesn't have a nice flow to itself. It is even as you say.
I don't think his stuff is very philosophical. Or at least not in a coherent sort of way. He has an otherworldly logic to his works which does not translate into being philosophical. I think that's why it doesn't get discussed much. He takes you for wild rides, but the rides don't come with a firm backing like say Dostoevsky or Wolfe and Tolkien do in fantastical writings.

[Anonymous No.21608670]

>>21608480
>ugh like all his books are bad
>can't go into detail about more than maybe two
I wish I could updoot this heckin' EPIC post. Fuck's sake, another day on /sffg/ and some glaring newfag trash has to try his best to destroy it.

[Anonymous No.21608674]

>>21608648
Style and substance and plot and characters aren't all the same thing but they're inextricably bound to the point that it's hard to talk about anything isolated. But some anons here are talking about his prose as if it isn't performing a function. And prose can't just exist like some luscious garden on top of content that is the mere "mulch" of operation; they would have to inform another to be successful.
I stated PKD's style was pared down. I think the purpose of that is to seem less obfuscatory when he talks about very grand things.
>>21608652
I guess a part of that is that PKD thinks everything can be questioned as a sort of hallucinatory misconception. He did end up thinking that God was real and that there was truth, but he talks about God much differently than Dostoevsky, Wolfe, and Tolkien do.

[Anonymous No.21608675]

>>21608627
>for some reason
Because, despite the fictional status of its technology and physics manipulation, everything is explained as deeply as possible. Are you one of those "hard sci-fi is only for REALISM" revisionists?

[Anonymous No.21608703]

>>21608670
>>can't go into detail about more than maybe two
Everyone knows good PKD books, and can name them offhand, because they're the only good ones. It's Three Stigmata, Ubik, Flow My Tears and Scanner Darkly. I'm not going to write detailed critiques on the rest of his 40+ plus hack books he slapped together in a couple of months to keep the lights on and support his amphetamine addiction with names like "Let's All Go Down on to The Brain Factory And Take a Look"

[Anonymous No.21608709]

>>21608703
>to keep the lights on and support his amphetamine addiction
Huh? He was writing heaps of mainstream fiction to try and break out into that market and be respectable. Do you even know the lore? He didn't just write for money.

[Anonymous No.21608710]

>>21608703
lol

[Anonymous No.21608716]

>>21608627
have you read it? like anon above said problem is hard sf has mistakenly become a synonym for realism.

[Anonymous No.21608720]

>>21608703
I don't know why I'm engaging with you now. You stole a two year old meme from Twitter, fag.

[Anonymous No.21608723]

>>21608703
>"Let's All Go Down on to The Brain Factory And Take a Look"
I would read that.
While on this topic I'm reading The World Jones Made and it's alright.

[Anonymous No.21608733]

>>21608720
Oh wow that explains a lot. Fucking crossboaders, man.

[Anonymous No.21608734]

>>21608674
>but he talks about God much differently than Dostoevsky, Wolfe, and Tolkien do.
I don't think the issue is in the fact that he talks differently. The three I named came from coherent intellectual traditions, PKD did not and it shows in his works. Which is not bad, don't get me wrong, it's a part of his charm and why he is still interesting to readers. But I don't think his attempts at philosophy are good because of the content they provide in terms of propositions and conclusions, but in a way that he, again, as you say, makes reality seem unreal. But only inside of his stories, not without.

[Anonymous No.21608740]

>>21608480
He puts a lot of different ideas into his novels and then throws them away. You can tell he was just throwing shit at the wall. It still amazes me to think about how interesting Ubik was before turning completely pointless. I've never read a novel that got me that invested then let me down so much.

[Anonymous No.21608746]

>>21608364
It's the best flintlock fantasy trilogy out there. But even on its own it's pretty good.

[Anonymous No.21608758]

>>21608703
>Flow My Tears
How is it good? It barely has a plot or action. It would be hard to think of a more boring execution of that premise.

[Anonymous No.21608761]

>>21608758
It's equally weird he brought that up considering PKD self-satirised it in other books.

[Anonymous No.21608772]

>>21608761
>It's equally weird he brought that up
He brought it up because it was one of the very few books he (may have) read by Dick. Read between the lines. Newfags do this kind of shit constantly.

[Anonymous No.21609054]

>>21608419
Greedfall truly is the best mediocre game ever made.

[Anonymous No.21609086]

>tfw will never enjoy fantasy the way I did when I was 9
books for this feel? I've tried reading that "comfy" straightforward YA fantasy for nostalgia feels but it didn't do it for me.

[Anonymous No.21609090]

>>21609086
It's literally not possible. You've changed too much as a person since then

[Anonymous No.21609340]

>>21609086
Try reading real historical war or exploration narratives. That's what I find myself enjoying the most now. Lots of fantasy is pale imiatation of the real thing.

[Anonymous No.21609463]

I need a fantasy catalogue filter to weed out all of the woman and onions authors.

[Anonymous No.21609464]

>>21609086
The Mask of the Sorcerer. Tell me it doesn't help. I dare you

[Anonymous No.21609500]

>>21609086
reread some of the books you read at that age
>>21609340
any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.21609503]

>>21609463
It's easy to avoid women. The latter can be done by looking at the publication date.

[Anonymous No.21609507]

>>21609086
unironically harry potter

[Anonymous No.21609516]

>>21609500
Rereading would only destroy what they once had. Their memories would be overwritten.

[Anonymous No.21609533]

>>21609516
as someone who has re-enjoyed books and other media from my childhood, not necessarily. It can reinforce your experience

[Anonymous No.21609550]

>>21609503
women fantasy authors date back at least as early as 1936

[Anonymous No.21609551]

>>21609516
>he can't revisit childhood media and gain greater appreciation for it in retrospect
I still re-read a book series called Girl From the Land of Dragons every once in a while. Don't think it has an eng translation though.

[Anonymous No.21609552]

>>21608322
so is the dandelion dynasty actually good or are people just praising because asian fantasy author?

[Anonymous No.21609553]

>>21609500
Maneaters of Tsavo by Patterson
White Hunters by Brian Herne
Congo Mercenary by Mike Hoare
A Hunter's Wanderings in Africa by Selous
The True History of the Conquest of New Spain by Bernal-Diaz
Samuel Purchas' Hakluytus Posthumus
Conquerers by Roger Crowley
Herodotus, Xenophon's anabasis, Livy on Hannibal

All of these have given me the feeling of adventure that I WANT to get from sff.

[Anonymous No.21609563]

>>21609552
It's top-shelf as asian fiction goes, which means it's like, a strong 6/10 by western standards.

[Anonymous No.21609566]

>>21609552
it's ok I guess, I hold on to my scuffed review here and would also like to add on that the barbarians were also comically op and cruel
>>/lit/thread/S21541240#p21541360

[Anonymous No.21609571]

>>21609552
>>21609563
It's written by an American with an Western perspective.

[Anonymous No.21609572]

>>21609553
thanks, will add to my ever growing to do list

[Anonymous No.21609574]

>>21609550
For every Mary Shelley and Leigh Brackett there's ten Stephanie Meyers. And even back in the golden age there were shades of the homo future with Tanith Lee, Mercedes Lackey and Marion Zimmer Bradley.

[Anonymous No.21609575]

>>21609552
I'd say Grace of Kings is worth reading for sure.

[Anonymous No.21609577]

>>21609571
I'm retarded
must've mixed it up with some other chinkshit series

[Anonymous No.21609588]

>>21609552
>>/lit/?task=search2&ghost=&search_text=Dandelion&search_tripcode=sffg&search_ord=old

[Anonymous No.21609625]

>>21609588
>>21609552

>5/5 to all the books
lmao

also

>Liu was born in 1976 in Lanzhou, China.[4] He spent his childhood with his grandparents.[5] His mother, who received her Ph.D. in chemistry in the United States, is a pharmaceutical chemist, while his father is a computer engineer.[6] The family immigrated to the United States when Liu was 11 years old.[4] They lived in California and Stonington, Connecticut before settling in Waterford, Connecticut. Liu graduated from Waterford High School in 1994, where he ran cross-country and track.[7] At Harvard College, he studied English Literature and Computer Science, receiving his A. B. in 1998.[7][8]

>After graduation, Liu worked as a software engineer for Microsoft, and then joined a start-up in Cambridge, Massachusetts. He later received his J.D. from Harvard Law School in 2004 and after working as a corporate lawyer, eventually became a high-tech litigation consultant.

Even if it isn't chinkshit, it might as well be. The guy's Early Life screams pozzed.

[Anonymous No.21609679]

I want to read Kenji Miyazawa's Ginga Tetsudou no Yoru, what's the best overall edition available?

[Anonymous No.21609698]

Read this and, by the same author, both the Voluntary State and the Border State. It was all kind of… eh? Not bad but definitely not my thing. Voluntary State is too surrealist and short, Border State is subdued but meanders (it’s the best book though. Idk protagonists which are twins do it for me). These Prisoning Hills sucked ass at parts, the prose took a nosedive and there’s a bunch of sentences which absolutely needed another pass. Funnily enough here the surrealist parts work but there’s only 3-4 scenes like this, all near the end.
I guess if you’re from Kentucky and/or enjoy professional cycling check out the ones with “State” in the title. (There’s a few short stories included in a collection of the author’s work but I have near zero interest reading them.)

[Anonymous No.21609716]

>>21609625
Was living in Connecticut and going to Harvard in the 90s considered pozzed?

[Anonymous No.21609726]

>>21609716
technically yes but I'm pretty sure that stormfag idiot is just seething at the fact that the mom had a job outside of the kitchen

[Anonymous No.21609727]

Where's the best place to start with R. A. Lafferty?

[Anonymous No.21609728]

>>21609625
Why are you so concerned with identity rather than content?

[Anonymous No.21609737]

>>21609727
Either the beginning or whatever his most popular book is.

[Anonymous No.21609747]

>>21609728
NTA but I've never read good fantasy/SF literature by an asian author with the exception of Michelle Sagara

[Anonymous No.21609753]

>>21609747
What do you think of Ted Chiang?

[Anonymous No.21609762]

>>21609726
has nothing to do with his mother besides perhaps the fact she worked in pharma

>chink
>lived in california and connecticut
>harvard
>worked at jewcrosoft
>harvard again

and worst of all

>>A FUCKING LAWYER

[Anonymous No.21609773]

>>21609753
far and away the best Chinese SFF author but that still only puts him on the same level as perhaps Adrian Tchaikovsky or Brandon Sanderson, however he's lightyears ahead of the average insect-brained chink author and he deserves respect for that

[Anonymous No.21609782]

>>21609773
Again, American.
Born Port Jefferson, New York
Do you believe that ethnicity is greater than nationality and cultural upbringing?

[Anonymous No.21609790]

>>21609782
When it comes to chinks? Yes.

[Anonymous No.21609793]

>>21609782
Nationality and ethnicity are synonymous.

[Anonymous No.21609801]

>>21609793
Tell that to the few white people who are born in Japan, only know Japanese, and have only lived in Japan.

[Anonymous No.21609807]

>>21609801
Jared Taylor.

Being born in a hospital doesn't make you a doctor.

[Anonymous No.21609822]

>>21609807
Yes, I agree, which is why they aren't synonymous.

[Anonymous No.21609833]

>>21609822
Then we're talking past each other. The root of "nation" is "natal". So nationality is heritable. Until recently it was generally understood that a "nation" had the same meaning as "race", "tribe" or "ethnicity". A white person can live in the country of Japan but can never be part of the Japanese nation.

[Anonymous No.21609843]

>>21609833
I see nationality as entirely a legal concept, so yes, we are.

[Anonymous No.21610029]

Wait, so if it's Lysa who killed Jon Arryn why does she hate the Lannisters so much? Why did she want to kill Tyrion?

[Anonymous No.21610038]

>>21610029
Is the eagle her symbol because her face looks like an eagle?

[Anonymous No.21610052]

>>21609574
>Tanith Lee in the same sentence as Marion Zimmer Bradley
no anon, you are the homo

[Anonymous No.21610058]

>>21610029
Did you even read the book before asking such a dumb question?

[Anonymous No.21610081]

>>21610029
I don't remember, but wasn't she merely pretending, because Littlefinger wanted the war between Lannisters and Starks?
>>21610038
It's falcon, and no, it's Coat of Arms of her husband's family.

[Anonymous No.21610106]

>>21609762
Lawyers are actually based and probably least pozzed of all people because they deal with retards and melanin enriched on daily basis.

[Anonymous No.21610128]

>>21610106
Not corporate lawyers from Harvard law

[Anonymous No.21610132]

>>21610128
Holy fuck, just fuck off or talks about books you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.21610138]

>>21610132
chill dude

[Anonymous No.21610147]

>>21610132
This is /sffg/ nobody here talks about books but one person and he gets shit on because of it.

[Anonymous No.21610155]

>>21610058
If he did read the book, he wouldn’t be asking the question in the first place.

[Anonymous No.21610188]

>>21609679
Whichever one you want to read.

[Anonymous No.21610192]

>>21610147
I post my litrpg chart and get shit on too.

[Anonymous No.21610195]

alastair reynolds owes me reparations for forcing me to read fr*nch "people"

[Anonymous No.21610210]

>>21610192
That’s because nobody cares about your shitty chart

[Anonymous No.21610227]

>>21610147
At least three+.
>>21610192
Because you present your chart as if it's /sffg/'s chart.

[Anonymous No.21610254]

>>21609727
Thus We Frustrate Charlemagne

[Anonymous No.21610275]

[Anonymous No.21610283]

>>21610192
>worth the candle
nigger brimstone
why is half the content in there "men wanting virgin women BAD"

[Anonymous No.21610289]

>>21610283
Because the retard who keeps posting that chart doesn’t read the stories.

>>21610227
That just further reinforces my point. Why even come to /sffg/ if only a few number of people talks about books and the rest are just idiots/bots reposting the same shit like >>21610275

[Anonymous No.21610307]

>>21609463
read my book when it comes out, the protagonist is a violent schizo who thinks god is talking to him through brain fungus, and he's morally correct
Hammer of Ald coming soon

[Anonymous No.21610310]

>>21610307
Sounds trite and boring so no.

[Anonymous No.21610311]

>>21609054
>We wanted to make a AAA game but only had enough budget for 1 interior room, please understand.

[Anonymous No.21610328]

>>21610310
Don't know what you're missing,

[Anonymous No.21610337]

>>21610307
I'll read your book, anon. Will it have dream-shattering of self-insert parody fantasy characters in there?

[Anonymous No.21610338]

>>21610328
A shitty self-publish book not worth taking a second glance at?

[Anonymous No.21610344]

>>21610147
As long as you're not here on /sffg/ to talk about books, it's okay. There are other websites better suited for that.

[Anonymous No.21610353]

>>21610338
Traditional publishing actually, eyes on the shelves anon

[Anonymous No.21610356]

>>21610353
I really doubt you’re going to get published traditionally if you’re on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.21610370]

>>21610356
Just hire a literary agent, it's that easy

[Anonymous No.21610376]

>>21610370
Thanks for telling me you ain’t getting publish.

[Anonymous No.21610380]

>>21610356
I wish 4chan was still a boogeyman.

[Anonymous No.21610391]

>rentfree nigga replying within seconds

[Anonymous No.21610395]

>>21610376
My man go to a bookstore and look at the shelves

[Anonymous No.21610423]

>>21610395
nta, but I don't think I've been to a bookstore in 15+ years. So, I checked what the nearest is to me now. Seems it's 25 miles away or so. I guess everything shut down. Not expected where I am. Do brick and mortar stores really even matter that much these days?

[Anonymous No.21610429]

>>21610423
*unexpected

[Anonymous No.21610434]

>>21608364
it's mediocre and completely unmemorable, but if you're bored it's a fine way to waste some time

[Anonymous No.21610437]

>>21610423
They don't, but my point is, tides upon tides of awful dreck get published and get shelf space. It's not hard to get published; the hard part is making your advance back.

[Anonymous No.21610438]

>>21610423
>Do brick and mortar stores really even matter that much these days?
No, since you can just buy an e-book. Which is a blessing since it doesn't take up space in your room.

[Anonymous No.21610441]

>>21610423
If Walmart counts as a bookstore then I suppose that's closer.

[Anonymous No.21610443]

>>21610437
Yeah, but your story is boring and trite and not really worth reading.

[Anonymous No.21610447]

>>21610437
The advance doesn't have to be made back though. It's not a loan and it doesn't necessarily mean the publisher will drop the author.

[Anonymous No.21610449]

fantasy is dead

[Anonymous No.21610453]

>>21610449
What is dead may never die.

[Anonymous No.21610454]

>>21610443
No need to be another crab in the bucket anon. If that POV character doesn't appeal to you, another may. And if that book doesn't appeal, maybe my next book will. My next will feature a magic system based entirely around masturbation, rape and subverting the masses through astroturfed peasant revolts

[Anonymous No.21610456]

>>21610453
That’s a stupid fucking quote.

[Anonymous No.21610458]

>>21610289
Rude.
You want to talk about books, but all you talk about is about pozzed nonsense. That kind of discussion is not wanted here on 4chan. You have to go back to trashreads or r*eddit.

[Anonymous No.21610459]

>>21610453
What is dead may never die, but rather be found squatting in the grass, groaning.

[Anonymous No.21610460]

>>21610454
>My next will feature a magic system based entirely around masturbation, rape and subverting the masses through astroturfed peasant revolts
If I wanted to read edgy garbage I would just read reverend insanity. Just go back to /wg/ retard.

[Anonymous No.21610465]

>>21610460
My next after that will be a comedy about a mercenary and a barbarian having buddy cop adventures in a mongolian/white hun style steppe

[Anonymous No.21610473]

If this is the same righteous newfag that was spamming book ideas, 1-2 lines per post as newfags tend to do, several threads back then yes it should skedaddle back to >>>/wg/ but it likely doesn't even post there nor has any serious intention of writing anything other than shitposts.

[Anonymous No.21610477]

>>21610473

[Anonymous No.21610478]

>>21610473
Pretty sure you can report him for spamming/flooding like last time. Don’t know why you don’t do that.

[Anonymous No.21610487]

>>21610478
The guy was rude to me for no reason, so I got talking to him. He didn't need to be a cunt.

[Anonymous No.21610511]

MUSHOKU TENSEI IS PEAK FICTION BRUH RS ONG FRFR

[Anonymous No.21610518]

>>21610337
Yes anon, yes it will. One of the very first things I did was make a self insertable traditional hero, and turned him into a victim of the story. The real hero will be a man modeled after Hercules, with the violent tendencies of Achilles and Conan. I'm really bored of average farmboy heroes.

[Anonymous No.21610544]

>>21610511
I watched the anime and it was garbage.

[Anonymous No.21610564]

GLURP GLURP!

[Anonymous No.21610565]

>>21610544
STOP THE CAP BRUHHH YOU KNOW THAT SHIT WAS FYRE ToT

[Anonymous No.21610614]

>>21610052
Tanith Lee literally got her start in the business because Marion Zimmer Bradley promoted her novel Birthgrave

[Anonymous No.21610623]

>>21610192
>no DDC
>no TWI

Are they on previous charts or are you just being contrarian?

[Anonymous No.21610631]

>>21610449
>hundrends of self-published books with hundrends of thousands of sales and the market keeps growing
>dead

You are just a boomer

[Anonymous No.21610634]

>>21610052
She was a lesbian feminist dude. She has a story where a demon steals a baby and fucks him in the ass.

[Anonymous No.21610635]

Can someone give me a QRD on Marc Aramini? Does he have brain damage due to a car accident? I know he used to be both a college professor and a lolcow on bodybuilding.com prior to becoming an author.

[Anonymous No.21610643]

>>21610635
Its called using google you lazy cunt.

[Anonymous No.21610646]

>>21610643
Googling him is hard due to the sheer volume of his reddit/forum posts.

[Anonymous No.21610648]

>>21610635
Isn't he a gene wolf mod on reddit?

[Anonymous No.21610651]

>>21610646
Then start there instead of expecting others to do shit you care about.

[Anonymous No.21610657]

>>21610623
both of those series are shit.
I don't know what's contrary of reading shit and not wanting to read more of it.
The Wandering Shit is a book filled with nothing, where a fucking pacifist got people killed and was rewarded for it, and Dungeon Shit Carl is a book where the author let his fans dictate what he writes and turned a good story about a man coping with the end of the world by surviving, into some shitty slapshtick comedy about a mush face cat.
glurp glurp glurp.

[Anonymous No.21610679]

>>21610657
I don't get it either

[Anonymous No.21610680]

>>21610623
I'm on book 5 but feel somewhat disappointed that book 4's epilogue was a cop-out. I figured Bea would get some more lip-service but it seems like the author is doing everything he can to avoid any real character development for Carl outside of winning/surviving. Also pretty disappointed that Katja has fucked off (seemingly) permanently. The lack of pay-offs really brought this book down compared to 4.

[Anonymous No.21610690]

>>21610657
GLURP GLURP

[Anonymous No.21610694]

>>21610635
>>21610648
He’s an odd character. He uses the screenname from pic related to promote himself online and talk shit about other Wolfe “scholars”.

[Anonymous No.21610731]

>>21610680
His character development has more to do with his parents thing. Bea is just a temp bitch it was more for Donut.

[Anonymous No.21610738]

>>21610657
Assuming I agree (I don't) this still makes them better than the shit you've posted. Maybe like 2 or 3 out of all these is decent.

You are just a contrarian.

[Anonymous No.21610742]

>>21610680
>giving a shit about Bea in book 4 when that's where he caused the most direct damage against the establishment
Don't put pussy on a pedestal.
Katia is still around but it's about Carl and Donut. Don't worry: her development doesn't end.

[Anonymous No.21610783]

>>21610694
damn he's just like me

[Anonymous No.21610857]

>>21608480
I like PKD don't get me wrong but I think his prose is pretty bad. I can never quite understand what's going on in any of his books and I have to re-read sentences multiple times to get the gist. To those that say "well his writing is like that to reflect his views on Reality" I say to you "That's fuckin horseshit, he's a bad writer".

[Anonymous No.21610864]

>>21610783
That’s sad and pathetic.

[Anonymous No.21610878]

>>21610857
So PKD is the Wolfe of science fiction. Got it.

[Anonymous No.21610891]

>>21610657
G L U R P
L
U
R
P

[Anonymous No.21610920]

>>21610878
PKD is more fun to read and his influence more widespread.

[Anonymous No.21610929]

Better late than never, I suppose.

[Anonymous No.21610949]

>>21610478
Hey you were right.

[Anonymous No.21610956]

>>21610623
DDC and TWI are shit no matter how many times you try to shill them.

[Anonymous No.21610958]

Does anyone else think Planetfall (interactive fiction game) reads like Red Dwarf? Or is that just because they're both sci fi comedy?

[Anonymous No.21610963]

>>21610958
Never heard of it and go back to /v/.

[Anonymous No.21610973]

>>21610956
Updooted!

[Anonymous No.21610976]

>>21610423
Why would you ever go to a bookstore when you can buy the book on amazon or on other book selling sites?

[Anonymous No.21610979]

>>21610973
So you have no argument, as expected

[Anonymous No.21610984]

>>21610963
Interactive fiction is still hypertext, chud.

[Anonymous No.21610985]

>>21610979
I'm not him. I'm mocking your retarded newfag behavior.

[Anonymous No.21610995]

>>21610985
Whatever you say retard.

[Anonymous No.21610997]

>>21610995
Lurk moar

[Anonymous No.21610999]

>>21610995
>it's shit and you're a shill
/v/ newfag starter kit since 2015
Return.

[Anonymous No.21611000]

>>21608670
>>21610973
>>21610985
>>21610473
Jesus, you've been at this for ten hours. Do you ever stop or are you always on the computer/phone?

[Anonymous No.21611001]

Add some insufferable heroines onto the chopping block, Hei Ho!

[Anonymous No.21611008]

>>21611000
He’s always online and in every thread calling people he doesn’t like newfags, what do you think?

[Anonymous No.21611014]

>>21611000
Do you ever stop shitting up every discussion you can find or do you ever consider that you may potentially be the problem?

[Anonymous No.21611016]

>>21610192
Name 1 (one) good book in here

[Anonymous No.21611018]

>>21611014
I barely post in these threads, I made one post prior, and it was PKD/Wolfe related. Unlike you.

[Anonymous No.21611021]

>>21611016
No, why don’t you read them.

[Anonymous No.21611022]

Why do faggets authors like to make it seem that if you are good at chess, you are automatically some superb general that will dominate battles?

[Anonymous No.21611023]

>>21611018
>no u
It's hard to argue against that psychotic logic.

[Anonymous No.21611025]

>>21611022
Why are you asking this question here and not use google or any other search engine to answer that for you?

[Anonymous No.21611029]

>>21611022
Chess unironically teaches tactical thinking, but that is definitely a trope that you pointed out. I think it's just to show they can think in the moment.
>>21611025
What would google say?

[Anonymous No.21611031]

>>21611023
It's hard to argue with you since you always deflect, but I'm tired of giving you attention.

[Anonymous No.21611033]

>>21611029
>What would google say?
Why don’t you use it.

[Anonymous No.21611035]

>>21611016
The Hidden Tower.

[Anonymous No.21611036]

>>21611033
Can you show me how to?

[Anonymous No.21611039]

>>21611036
No, since you can’t be this regarded. Now fuck off.

[Anonymous No.21611042]

>>21611039
Regarded in which way?

[Anonymous No.21611051]

>>21611036
>>21611042
What do you gain by playing stupid?

[Anonymous No.21611052]

>>21611036
Are 7 or something?

[Anonymous No.21611057]

>>21611052
My mom says I'm too young to post here so I make a blanket fort and hide there with my iPhone.
>>21611051
Huh?

[Anonymous No.21611077]

>>21609727
Past Master is his most famous novel. I honestly want to like him a lot more than I do, but he usually flies over my head in many ways. I'll need to read Past Master again.

[Anonymous No.21611080]

>>21611057
Why do you have a webm if a child?

[Anonymous No.21611081]

>>21611077
>but he usually flies over my head in many ways
How? He's not that hard to read.

[Anonymous No.21611084]

>>21609773
>perhaps Adrian Tchaikovsky
Oh man that's a low bar, judging from Empire of Black and Gold. Probably the worst fantasy novel I read in years. So utterly generic and lifeless in every way.

[Anonymous No.21611093]

>>21610635
I sometimes talk to him. Good guy. He had a kid recently, seems happy.

[Anonymous No.21611094]

>>21611084
>So utterly generic and lifeless in every way.
So, it's an average fantasy novel.

[Anonymous No.21611096]

>>21611080
Because I like children

[Anonymous No.21611099]

>>21611084
What do you have against moth-kins cucking beetle-kins?

[Anonymous No.21611106]

>>21611096
ummm

[Anonymous No.21611108]

>>21610878
Wolfe has gorgeous prose you need to read again to appreciate it more and to catch all the things he is stuffing in his sentences. Every sentence he writes is such a pleasure to read.
PKD is, on the other hand, someone whose sentences you need to reread because he didn't proofread his novels, rewrite them or write many in a way in which they flow and guide the reader. I like PKD but he's nothing like Wolfe.

[Anonymous No.21611110]

Old covers were kino.
Twayne Triplets sounded cool. It was basically three writers told to make novellas/novels about a world or scenario devised by the press or scientist.

[Anonymous No.21611116]

>>21611108
>PKD is, on the other hand, someone whose sentences you need to reread because he didn't proofread his novels, rewrite them or write many in a way in which they flow and guide the reader.
So, PKD is like wolfe, I don't know why you had to reiterate what I said before.

[Anonymous No.21611128]

>>21610731
Even the segments with his parents was limited in this part, along with that rising primal plotline the author has been touching upon. It was fine, just a weird hook bait and pull.

>>21610742
The pussy has some pulling power in the background, so I'm sure she's still 'involved'. I just figured there would be more to go on instead of nothing.

I've got 20 minutes left on the chapter. Can't believe I'm being robbed of a Wacky Racers floor... I hate this fucking goat.

[Anonymous No.21611136]

>>21611081
He's not hard to read, but his mind was so completely unlike any other writer that I have a hard time visualizing and following many of his ideas. I often feel like I missed something.
>>21611094
Yes, but I usually don't read those, because they are awful. But by now I've read almost everything I could find from the more classic authors that get mentioned so I'm trying to find something new. And I'm failing.
>>21611099
The fact that they are constructed like RPG races/nations and not genuine people. It's incredibly artificial.
>>21611116
I even explained in the post how and why I find them different. I know some people don't like Wolfe, but no honest person is going to compare them.

[Anonymous No.21611143]

>>21608364
theres an entire cabal of authors that all write like brandon sanderson and coincidentally are all also mormon. i think its because they attended the orson scott card writing courses, but osc at least has a different feel where as everyone else feels like a sanderson copy

to the actual books the first trilogy is pretty good for a french style 18th century revolution fantasy but there's 3 different magic systems and only the gunpowder magic is interesting

[Anonymous No.21611165]

>>21611081
Also I just remembered how fantastic Thus We Frustrate Charlamagne , To Ride a Tin Can and Slow Tuesday Night were. Some of the best short stories in science fiction. And the one about banning cars. Lafferty had such humour and had an incredible reactionary and thomist streak to him I found it extra enjoyable. Blame everything on William of Ockham for ruining philosophy is a standard part of a thomist narrative and having a short story in which not censuring him ends in men returning to their caves is absolutely hilarious.

[Anonymous No.21611166]

>>21611143
The FUCKING MORMON BOOK MAFIA
One day I'll marry into it
one day

[Anonymous No.21611173]

>>21611166
You just have to write like this.

[Anonymous No.21611178]

>>21611165
>Blame everything on William of Ockham for ruining philosophy
Ah, I see now, I only read fantasy as a downtime, if I want to read philosophy, I would just read a philosophy book.

[Anonymous No.21611182]

>>21611022
Chess is certified /sffg/, you faggot.

[Anonymous No.21611183]

>>21611178
Good writers can incorporate themes you wouldn't want to think about normally, but they do it in such a way that it tickles your curiosity.

[Anonymous No.21611191]

>>21611178
I read both on a daily basis and having an extra layer of the story is just fun. He's not actually discussing Ockham, it's a near and humourous time travel story.

[Anonymous No.21611193]

Sarah J Maas has announced that her books are a multiverse like Sanderson and will have crossovers.

[Anonymous No.21611198]

>>21611128
*bleats in your face*
One thing about DCC is that there are many long-term plotlines going on so I fear it will be some time before we get some crucial reveals. But who knows. We got a big one midway in book 6. Annnnd we finally see a cultivator!
>>21611136
PKD was espousing simulation theory way before it ever hit any mainstream knowledge. He was on another level.

[Anonymous No.21611199]

>>21611173
i read the first 2 skyward books for scifi aimed at young teen girls its not terrible i guess? it does feel like its written to be an anime or cartoon, just like a lot of sanderson books

[Anonymous No.21611210]

>>21611199
It's not terrible, just very formulaic. I particularly hate the first declarative sentence that happens in nearly all YA I have come across.
But I can't believe he went to a nowhere university and still made it. Maybe academic success means nothing and I got it drilled it into me.

[Anonymous No.21611219]

>>21611198
I don't think it was particularly obscure. There's various elements of it in Buddhism, it can be drawn from Cartesian and Kantian schools in some ways. But I do think he was the first to really use it effectively in fiction.

[Anonymous No.21611222]

>>21611210
dude thats THE mormon university, the english department probably hands out book deals at graduation

[Anonymous No.21611226]

This general never disappoints

[Anonymous No.21611230]

>>21611226
Why are you even coming here? There are other websites that discuss books better than this hellhole.

[Anonymous No.21611235]

>>21611222
This shit is creepy. Do you think Sandersoi is a ghostwritten psy op and that he's a poster boy to get more Mormon converts?

[Anonymous No.21611276]

>>21611235
I doubt they'll get anymore new converts that haven't came from some mormon underage womb, the chuds can see that their leaders are cucking for mainstream basedpolitics and normies are vary of their creepy reputation.

[Anonymous No.21611283]

>>21611276
>mainstream basedpolitics
Really? They might just be Machiavellian. Before, they were the meme of a whitey erasing anyone who wasn't a pasty Anglo.

[Anonymous No.21611317]

>>21611283
It's what I got from hearsay, often circling in /pol/, I won't say anything specific but there's a bunch of internet rumors going around.

[Anonymous No.21611318]

>>21611193
Okay.

[Anonymous No.21611319]

For me, its The Malazan Book of the Fallen

[Anonymous No.21611322]

>>21611317
Go back to /pol/.

[Anonymous No.21611326]

>>21611322
And that's just going to happen just because you said so? Useless chatter, go read some books.

[Anonymous No.21611327]

>>21611318
It's a sign that many authors will do the same for marketing reasons.

[Anonymous No.21611339]

>>21611319
based, check out black company. malazan took a lot of inspiration from it

[Anonymous No.21611347]

I don't read female authors or novels with female protagonists

[Anonymous No.21611350]

>>21611143
Powder Mage's author attended BYU where Sanderson teaches

[Anonymous No.21611356]

>>21611230
Because i enjoy the laid back nature of like minded people

[Anonymous No.21611383]

>>21611339
I read it. It was good but the depth of mbotf was so much more epic.
I also recommend the First Law trilogy.

[Anonymous No.21611384]

>>21608322
The official Mom Protagonist SFF List.
I apologize for the lengthy (ie autistic) list. I may update it later.
>Caught in Crystal (1987) by Patricia Wrede
>The Interior Life (1990) by Katherine Blake
>Raven's Duology (2004-2005) by Patricia Briggs
>Wolfblade Trilogy (2004-2005) by Jennifer Fallon
>Bridge of D'Arnath (2004-2005) by Carol Berg
>The World Gates Trilogy (2004-2005) By Holly Lisle, She wrote Minerva Wakes and the Arhel trilogy, those two books also have mom mc
>Dragonsbane (1985) by Barbara Hambly
>Paladin of Souls and Vorkosigan saga by Lois McMaster Bujold
>Sunrunner Saga (1988-1993) by Melanie Rawn. Mommy Sioned best yandere girl
>The Empire Trilogy (1987-1992) by Janny Wurts
>Liveship Traders (1998-200) by Robin Hobb
>Birthgrave (1975-1978) by Tanith Lee
>Heart of Bronze (1997-1998) by Matthew Stover
>Karavans Trilogy (2006-2012) by Jennifer Roberson
>Skinwalkers (2014) by Wendy N. Wagner, about an ex-pirate Axe wielding mom!
>Frostfell (2006) by Mark Sehestedt
>Legacy of Steel (1998) by Mary H. Herbert
>The Traitor Spy Trilogy (2010-2012) by Trudi Canavan
>Sevenwaters Trilogy (1999-2001) by Juliet Marillier
>Blood songs (1987, third book in the Frost trilogy) by Robin Wayne Bailey
>Bloodsong Trilogy (1985-1986) by Asa Drake
>Gypsies (1988) by Robert Charles Wilson
>Child of Time (1991) by Robert Silverberg
>The Wayfarer Redemption (1995-1999) by Sara Douglass, by book three almost every character is pregnant, after book three there's a 20 year time-skip so all the mcs have grown-up children
>The Forgotten Beasts of Eld (1974) by Patricia A. McKillip
>The Keys to Paradise Trilogy (1987-1988) by Robert Vardeman, trio of mcs all of the same importance, veterans of the Trans-War that ravaged the country, one of them is a cat-girl who saves a slave kid and adopts him
>Bitter Angels (2009) by C.L Anderson
>The Great Wheel (1987, book three of the Tredana Trilogy) by Joyce Ballou Gregorian
>Daughter of the Bear King (1987) by Eleanor Arnason
>Night-Threads series by Ru Emerson, portal fantasy about a druggie mom, her sister and her teenage son.
>Frostflower adn Thorn (1980) Phyllis Ann Karr
>Fifth Millenium by S.M. Stirling, Shirley Meier, and Karen Wehrstein
>Spellsong Cycle (1997-2002) by L.E. Modesitt Jr
>The Sword of Lyric by Sharon Hinck, christian portal fantasy about a soccer mom and her son fighting against Not-Satan
>Cradle of Sea and Soill (2020) by Bernie Anes Paz
>Boneshaker (2009) Cherie Priest
>The Gap Cycle by Stephen Donaldson, absolute grimdark kino but like most of Donaldson's work it has a happy ending, the main characters just have to go through hell to get it.
>Dragon Gate by Lindsay Buroker, a six book epic about a Mother-son duo
>Memories of Ice (2001 Book 3 of Malazan Book of the Fallen) by Steven Erikson
>To Sail Beyond the Sunset (1987) by Robert Heinlein
I'm open to any suggestions for SFF books with mom mc
Check out Kate Elliott's new Mom protagonist book the Keeper's Six.
Bakker is king etc. etc.

[Anonymous No.21611396]

>>21611347
They're custom-made to be raped and killed by bestiality

[Anonymous No.21611397]

>>21611384
Holy shit it’s been so long since I’ve thought about Suikoden. I loved those games. I played Suikoden 2 so many times I practically memorized it even though it was like a 60 hour rpg.

[Anonymous No.21611405]

>>21611396

[Anonymous No.21611408]

>>21611384
Which ones are the mom incest ones?

[Anonymous No.21611411]

>>21611405
Speaking facts, the alternative is being beaten with clubs.

[Anonymous No.21611429]

>>21611411
(You)

[Anonymous No.21611430]

>>21611397
It's had a HD re-release. Did you play all games? Have you seen Eiyuden Chronicles which is made by the same major people?

[Anonymous No.21611436]

>>21611429
I don't see you mentioning alternatives to the female protag/author problem.

[Anonymous No.21611444]

I wonder if Ty & Dan got inspiration for Holden following proto Miller in Abbadon's Gate from Sylveste and Sun Stealer in Revelation Space

[Anonymous No.21611450]

>>21611397
So sad the franchise is dead but Suikoden I&II HD Remaster coming out this year!

[Anonymous No.21611458]

>>21611436
The best thing about fictional women is that they don't act like real women

[Anonymous No.21611463]

>>21611384
She's more of the deurtagonist but Naomi Nagata from The Expanse could fit the bill, particularly in Tiamat's Wrath she feels like the closest to being protag.

[Anonymous No.21611468]

>>21611458
The best thing about fictional characters is that they aren't real so anything can be done with them.

[Anonymous No.21611471]

>>21611463
Thanks, anon.

[Anonymous No.21611515]

>>21611436
There isn’t a problem. Seek help.

[Anonymous No.21611593]

>>21611327
I don’t think people care.

[Anonymous No.21611597]

>>21611430
>>21611450
I didn’t know it was getting remastered or rereleased thanks anons I will check it out for sure. I’ll also check out Eiyuden Chronicles which I’ve never heard of but might like if it’s made by the same people. Thank you based anons.

[Anonymous No.21611602]

>>21611597
How is this related to books?

[Anonymous No.21611611]

I got The Knight with my current months audible credit.
This is an absolute ton of fun.

[Anonymous No.21611634]

>>21611230
I don’t know any other sites but I am weighing my options in using reddit.

[Anonymous No.21611646]

>>21611108
PKD is better.

[Anonymous No.21611656]

>>21611356
What threads have you been viewing? /sffg/ is anything but that.

[Anonymous No.21611667]

>>21611110
Meh, they were hit or miss depending on the artist.

[Anonymous No.21611692]

>>21611182
No it isn’t.

[Anonymous No.21611727]

>>21611173
What’s wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.21611746]

>>21611634
r/fantasy is not THAT bad, a big part of the user base suffers from recency bias but it's okay

[Anonymous No.21611752]

>>21611746
I just want to go to a llace that talks about books.

[Anonymous No.21611776]

>>21610380
Why?

[Anonymous No.21611804]

>>21610147
Shame he didn’t post any reviews this thread.

[Anonymous No.21611816]

This is holding my attention... Tesla and Aleister Crowley vs. Thos. Edison. It actually works!

[Anonymous No.21611821]

>>21611816
Do you have to know anything by the real life characters.

[Anonymous No.21611823]

>>21611816
>Tesla and Alistair Crowley vs Thomas Edison
glad to see a book where Thomas Edison is the good guy just like in real life

[Anonymous No.21611833]

All I wanna do is talk about space opera novels

[Anonymous No.21611846]

>>21611804
I have two more to post, but due to publisher request I won't be posting it for a few months. I could post it probably without any real problems, but eh. The other will be in a week or so. Then one l arc is a thriller, so not relevant to here. I was going to read an anthology today and yesterday, but didn't. The Feb books vote will start on the 5th, but it looks like it'll just be one of the 4 popular books I choose rather than also what /sffg/ since no valid response for that still yet. I may start playing a game tomorrow to slow down my pace since another member wants to read a book together. It's all to be seen.

[Anonymous No.21611850]

>>21611833
Then go to some other site. Why do it here.

[Anonymous No.21611854]

>>21611833
Then start doing so and hope someone replies.

[Anonymous No.21611869]

>>21611833
read the xeelee sequence

[Anonymous No.21611871]

>>21611846
That’s good to hear.

[Anonymous No.21611876]

>>21611854
It’ll be a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.21611900]

>>21611876
What possible other reason could you be here for other than to waste time?

[Anonymous No.21611912]

>>21611900
Talk about books, but that’s never going to happen here.

[Anonymous No.21611923]

>>21611912
>Talk about books
Why do that here?

[Anonymous No.21611930]

>>21611923
Because this is /lit/, but you’re right. I expected too much from this place.

[Anonymous No.21611932]

>>21611833
Which ones?

[Anonymous No.21611935]

>>21611930
>I expected too much from this place.
this is 4chan, the only thing you should expect is bottom of the barrel posts. With the rare insightful posts ever few weeks.

[Anonymous No.21611943]

>>21611850
Good question
>>21611854
I have a few times in the last couple threads with middling luck
>>21611869
Busy with Revelation Space currently but I'll add it to the list and get around to it eventually if it's worth it
>>21611876
This anon isn't me but he ain't exactly wrong lol

[Anonymous No.21611947]

>>21611846
What's the book that you can't post a review on?

[Anonymous No.21611958]

>>21611943
>This anon isn't me but he ain't exactly wrong lol
Yeah, I was in a similar position as you. Wasted weeks, even months trying to start discussion on books here until I realize it was pointless.

[Anonymous No.21611965]

Would any of you like to try the first chapter of my medieval fantasy novel? If so what's the preferred way to post pdfs?

[Anonymous No.21611970]

>>21611965
Try asking /wg/.

[Anonymous No.21611971]

>>21611965
>>>/lit/wg/

[Anonymous No.21611976]

>>21611970
>>21611971
we need a writing general that isn't /wg/ they're awful

[Anonymous No.21611982]

>>21611976
well it’s not going to be /sffg/. So go to wg.

[Anonymous No.21611986]

>>21611976
Why not make a separate thread for your own writing.

[Anonymous No.21611988]

>>21611970
>>21611971
I fuckin looked before I posted but I'm blind, thank you.

[Anonymous No.21612002]

>>21611947
I have them as read on my GR profile, and it's not that I can't, just that they prefer that I don't. It's The Sword Defiant. Next week I'll be posting The Will of the Many.

[Anonymous No.21612003]

>>21611988
Always happy to help

[Anonymous No.21612008]

>>21612002
By which I mean I've already asked several people whether posting early affected their approval rate from the publisher and it didn't seem to be the case.

[Anonymous No.21612011]

>>21612002
>>21612008
Ah, I see thanks for clearing it up.

[Anonymous No.21612022]

>>21612002
>Next week I'll be posting The Will of the Many.
I'll be waiting for that review.

[Anonymous No.21612042]

>>21612022
l'll definitely be reading the next book, so it's a favorable review. I could post it next thread, as the publisher didn't provide any info about when I could post it, so I included a note about how I would post it in week unless otherwise directed.

[Anonymous No.21612049]

>>21608720
anon that's just a reference

[Anonymous No.21612064]

>>21612049
He’s autistic, don’t explain.

[Anonymous No.21612074]

>>21612042
I'll rather you wait the week and see.

[Anonymous No.21612085]

>>21612074
Oh, I will be. That isn't in doubt. What is in doubt is whether I'll give Islington's previous series another try sometime.

[Anonymous No.21612089]

>>21611656
Maybe i'm too naive to registrate samefagging trolls

[Anonymous No.21612106]

>>21612085
>What is in doubt is whether I'll give Islington's previous series another try sometime
Is he that bad?

[Anonymous No.21612107]

>>21611821
No, not at all...

[Anonymous No.21612109]

>>21611823
He's not really the bad guy, just mislead... His invention, the Spirit Phone, has unintended side effects...

[Anonymous No.21612111]

Thanks for memeing Bakker, guys. That was an amazing ride.

[Anonymous No.21612112]

>>21612064
Come up with your own jokes, twitterfag.

[Anonymous No.21612125]

>>21612106
No, not at all, I just wasn't interested. Here's rated well enough among /sffg/. Started out too traditional fantasy for my preference, but that may have been a misunderstanding. It was his debut self-published novel that was bought by a traditional publisher a year later.

[Anonymous No.21612126]

>>21612112
Not even the one who posted the Twitter image.

[Anonymous No.21612131]

>>21612126
No shit, Sherlock. The guy who initially made the epic joke just stole it, which the screenshot was used as evidence of.
I'm just gonna read and cook instead of engaging with you soft-headed numpties.

[Anonymous No.21612132]

new thread WHEN?

[Anonymous No.21612135]

>>21612132
310+ replies at page 10.

[Anonymous No.21612139]

>>21612132
After the bump limit at 310 posts and then page 10. So, still hours to go.

[Anonymous No.21612146]

How do we make our memes take the entire board

[Anonymous No.21612148]

>>21612139
>>21612135
Why are you guys even replying? You know he’s doing that shit for attention.

[Anonymous No.21612161]

>>21612125
Ah, maybe I’ll check your previous reviews on Warosu.

[Anonymous No.21612171]

>>21612146
We don’t

[Anonymous No.21612173]

>>21612161
Might as well check the goodreads group while you're at it.

[Anonymous No.21612175]

>>21612131
Whatever.

[Anonymous No.21612203]

>>21609086
I'm a tourist here but I'll comment anyways. Have you tried adult fiction

[Anonymous No.21612246]

chasm city or redemption ark next?

[Anonymous No.21612251]

>>21612246
Whichever one you want. You’re the one that’s going to read it.

[Anonymous No.21612256]

>>21612251
the reason im asking is because i know CC is a standalone story largely but i wasnt sure if anything in it would have any bearing on redemption ark to warrant reading it first since it came out next following publishing order (ignoring short stories)

[Anonymous No.21612382]

>>21611634
unironically go to r/fantasy then sort by controversial

[Anonymous No.21612456]

>>21609086
This >>21609464, plus Lyonesse

[Anonymous No.21612524]

somebody get a new thread going

[Anonymous No.21612527]

What did Lyonesse do that was so bad it had to be destroyed?

[Anonymous No.21612532]

>>21612524
After the bump limit at 310 posts and then page 10. So, still hours to go

[Anonymous No.21612537]

>>21612527
Read the book

[Anonymous No.21612548]

You can find better discussion about sci-fi and fantasy on fucking /v/ than these generals

[Anonymous No.21612553]

>>21612548
Ikr it's fucking depressing

[Anonymous No.21612572]

>>21612548
>>21612553
Then why do you keep coming here.

[Anonymous No.21612593]

wheres the new thread?

[Anonymous No.21612597]

>>21612572
In the hopes you hacks will talk about anything except YA or LitRPGs.

[Anonymous No.21612600]

>>21612597
Read it.

[Anonymous No.21612605]

>>21612600
Sure will Anon, thanks.

[Anonymous No.21612607]

>>21612593
When you stop being an annoying bitch.

[Anonymous No.21612622]

Consider the following

[Anonymous No.21612628]

>>21612622
>Sanderson likes it
Never mind, then.

[Anonymous No.21612630]

>>21612628
I bet he dislikes Will Wight after he made a parody of his kickstarter video for his own kickstarter video

[Anonymous No.21612646]

New thread
>>21612617