[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/lit/ - Literature

View post   
File: 417 KB, 1200x1200, william.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
21548704 No.21548704 [Reply] [Original]

What writer/playwright comes close to or surpasses Shakespeare?

>> No.21548713

>>21548704
RC Waldun

>> No.21548724

>>21548704
Ibsen, Strindberg, Chekhov, O’Neill, Miller

>> No.21548726

>>21548704
Arthur Miller surpassed Will

>> No.21548834

>>21548704
WS deserves credit for what he brought to language, but there are stories with way more engaging characters and plots. I personally think Godfather part 2 is a greater tragedy than Hamlet.

>> No.21548855

>>21548704
Writer: Joyce

>> No.21548866

>>21548704
why is it that Shake Dat Spear is like the only playright of common knowledge from the early modern age?

>> No.21548976

Yeats is the closest you'll get to him. I think comparing him to a prose writer is a bit silly though. Two different mediums.

>> No.21549042

>>21548704
Lope de Vega is just as good a writer as Shakespeare it's just he's not in English.

>> No.21549051

>>21548704
David Chase

>> No.21549064

>>21548704
>What writer/playwright comes close to or surpasses Shakespeare?
Shakespeare.

>> No.21549462

Corneille is genius tier but underrated due to the popularity of Molière and Racine

>> No.21549493
File: 1.36 MB, 3139x4001, Attributed_to_Abraham_van_Blijenberch_-_William_Drummond_of_Hawthornden,_1585_-_1649._Poet_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
21549493

William Drummond

>> No.21549525

Ben Jonson and John Fletcher were more highly rated during the Renaissance.

>> No.21549639

Calderón

>> No.21549747

>>21548704
Nobody surpasses Shakespeare in terms of English written language. In terms of other elements of story, many surpass him - like pick almost anyone off a shelf.

>> No.21549982
File: 10 KB, 225x225, download (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
21549982

>>21548704
>>21548724
>>21548726
>>21548976
>>21549042
>>21549051
>>21549462
>>21549493
>>21549525
>>21549639
Stay thirsty, mis amigos.

>> No.21550357

Jacinto Benavente.

>> No.21550384

>>21549493
I nominate him as well

>> No.21550486

>>21548704
Sir Francis Bacon

>> No.21551410

>>21548704
Shakespeare, Dante, Joyce divide the world between them

Beckett the only close playwright

https://youtu.be/jiegso1JQWw

>> No.21552060

>>21549042
He’s really not. Calderón is better and his best plays are on par with Shakespeare. Haven’t read Marlowe yet but from what I’ve seen he seems more similar to Lope.

>> No.21552066

>>21550486
this

>> No.21552496

>>21548704
Me

>> No.21552546

>>21548704
The translators of the King James Bible.

>> No.21552846
File: 369 KB, 1292x772, 1661685798044806.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
21552846

>>21548704
Wagner, obviously. He completes Western drama by returning to the highly stylized drama of the Greeks-- which is only possible under a fusion of the arts; through the heightened advancements, and Germanic character, of Shakespeare and Beethoven. It is a necessity for the subject of this stylized art to be myth, and furthermore the native myths of our culture.

>The very difficulty of thus applying Beethovenian Music to the Shakespearian Drama might lead, when conquered, to the utmost perfecting of musical Form, through its final liberation from each remaining fetter. What still distressed our great German poets in regard of Opera, and what still left its manifest traces on Beethoven's instrumental music, that scaffolding which in nowise rested on the essence of Music, but rather on that selfsame tendence which planned the operatic aria and the ballet−tune, this conventional four−square structure, so wondrously wreathed already with the luxuriant life of Beethovenian melody, would vanish quite away before an ideal ordering of highest freedom; so that Music now would take the ineffably vital shape of a Shakespearian drama, and its sublime irregularity, compared with the antique drama, would wellnigh give it the appearance of a nature−scene as against a work of architecture, a scene whose skilful measurement would be evinced by nothing but the unfailing sureness of the artwork's effect. And in this would lie withal the untold newness of this artwork as form: a form ideal alike and natural, and thus conceivable in no modern, racial language save the German, the most developed of them all; a form, on the other hand, which could be misconstrued only for so long as the artwork was measured by a standard it had thoroughly outgrown, whereas the new and fitting standard might haply be sought in the impression received by the fortunate hearers of one of those unwritten impromptus of the most peerless of musicians. Then would the greatest dramatist have taught us to fix that impromptu too; for in the highest conceivable Artwork the sublimest inspirations of them both should live with an undying life, as the essence of the world displayed with clearness past all measure in the mirror of the world itself.

>> No.21552855

>>21552546
William Tyndale?