/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.21486606]

Canon Space Edition

Previous Thread: >>21481954

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
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>Archive
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>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

[Anonymous No.21486622]

>>21481814
>Doesn’t /d/ have some smut general they [progression fantasy readers and other degenerates] can fuck off to?
They could, if they wanted to. But like the trannies in reddit and discord, it is not enough that they enjoy their medium in the privacy of their life; not enough that people merely tolerate their existence; not enough that what they deem it acceptable — others must relish in it, praise it, and worst of all, join it. Like pigs who revel in shit, others must join the party. Shitty-dipping, by their definition, is for everyone. They, and only they, have found the meaning of life, it being the never ending consumption of sub par smut written by kiss less virgins whose only reason to keep on living is to expound their malignant thoughts on others. They have a deep hatred of women, the only other sex on the face of the Earth, who have, in their combined efforts decided to strike down all beta males but at the same time, it is women themselves, who are in the very center of their plays; harems being the ultimate locus of their secular desires. The progression fantasy reader is thus, by his definition, fighting a social oppression and their life's work is to preach their evangelium to other men, who have not yet found the truth of women. In short, in their love and hate for women, they have forsook real women in their lives and have settled for crude caricatures mimicking their ideal woman; a creature of no autonomous thought, a being of a singular desire — to please the litRPG man. Like a dog worship's its owner, the anime-man demands the respect of women non-existent.

[Anonymous No.21486632]

>>21486622
>so mad she quotes an archived thread

such a Karen

[Anonymous No.21486634]

>>21486606
Any reason why you made this thread when the last thread isn't even on page 10?

[Anonymous No.21486636]

>>21486606
Finished The Pastel City from Viriconium series. It's disappointing and I understand why it's never talked about. It's a dying Earth novel, but not nearly as good as Wolfe or Vance. He

[Anonymous No.21486640]

>>21486634
Because it's about the bump limit, not the page.

[Anonymous No.21486642]

>>21486622
You could have posted about a book you read or are interested in, but instead you decided to kill this thread for no reason.

[Anonymous No.21486645]

>>21486606
Old thread isn’t even on page 10, you stupid dipshit.

[ChartMaker !!q5+P+/PyFx0 No.21486650]

[Anonymous No.21486651]

>>21486640
No, it's about the page, you dumbass.

[Anonymous No.21486653]

>>21486640
I don't care but mod will probably nuke it.

[Anonymous No.21486655]

>>21486650
both aesthetical and in content this chart is trash

[Anonymous No.21486656]

Thread is already shit.

[Anonymous No.21486660]

>>21486622
>>21486650
Why do you put on a tripname and then take it off? Either own up to it, or fuck off.

[Anonymous No.21486661]

>>21486656
So post something good ( or at least not degenerate) and make it better.

[Anonymous No.21486664]

>>21486660
seethe
>>21486653
its not against the board rules
>>21486655
>subjective opinion of some shitter
discarded

[Anonymous No.21486665]

>>21486661
Why would I do that when the thread is already shit?

[Anonymous No.21486668]

>>21486665
Ok, then don't post anything.

[Anonymous No.21486669]

>>21486606
kek, not even twenty minutes have past, and the thread is already terrible thread.

[Anonymous No.21486677]

>>21486669
Are you that surprised?

[Anonymous No.21486681]

>>21486677
Not really, no. But earlier threads at least had a few minutes before turning to shit.

[Anonymous No.21486682]

>>21486606
That art looks familiar. Have I read it?

[Anonymous No.21486683]

>>16585589
>>20595257
Bruh, when does this get good? I went scouring for recommendations, and pulled this one because you gave it a 5/5. So I thought, "Even if it's not as good as that, it still has to be decently entertaining." Well I'm not 25% into the book now, and it's losing me fast.

Event happen TOO fast. The PoV shifts are too rapid, and the passage of time jumps around too much. It reads less like a novel, and more like a written history of events with some flowery language here and there. Every time I get snuggled in with one character, suddenly we're leaping through time to talk about some random fuckwit who formed an army to take over some region. Then we return to the main character, and EVERYTHING has changed in their lives.

Also, they open the book with some guy doing magical shit, and then after that... nothing. No magic. Just endless power grabs and wars and platitudes. Sure, they introduce the gods pretty early. But the gods are so incredibly petty in their squabbling, that they're pretty much just regular people with super powers. Narratively, they only exist to explain why all the needless wars are happening. It's so in your face about it though. There's no mystery, no intrigue. Nothing like that. Just "HAHA! I AM THE GOD OF THIS AND THAT, SO THEREFORE I DESIRE SUCH AND SUCH OUTCOME, IT IS MY WILL.

In fact... dropped.

[Anonymous No.21486685]

>>21486673
>Entire point is that there is one shizo who makes a new thread everytime, and if someone else does that before him then he starts coping and seething.

[Anonymous No.21486686]

>>21486682
Why are you asking us?

[Anonymous No.21486689]

>>21486682
Yes, it's Fire Upon Deep

[Anonymous No.21486693]

>>21486682
It was a cover for a local Foundation translation here back in the 80s so I guess the artist was used extensively for generic sci-fi covers.

[Anonymous No.21486695]

>>21486606
I'm thinking about starting a dystopia where people make fresh generals when they're only on page 8

[Anonymous No.21486696]

>>21486606
>Another thread that turned to shit quickly.
What are some alternative websites to discuss books?

[Anonymous No.21486698]

>>21486689
I prefer the one with the Sydney Opera House

[Puppet-master of /sffg/ No.21486701]

>>21486632
>>21486634
>>21486645
>>21486651
>>21486653
>>21486656
>>21486665
>>21486681
>>21486685
These are kind of posts that make these threads worse. You think this is some kind of game about controlling some narrative. Who makes the thread gets the first win, right? God forbid, someone else makes one of these unimaginative OPs with uninspired pictures vaguely on-topic. Just talk about books. It's like you people can't talk in any other way than meta. You come here just to fight for fighting's sake. There are probably 3 people in these threads that actually read.

[Anonymous No.21486702]

>>21486685
>>21486695
You could have posted about a book you read or are interested in, anything to improve the state of the thread, but you decided to make it even more shit.

[Anonymous No.21486705]

>>21486683
You might be the first person not praising The Dandelion Dynasty in these threads.

[Anonymous No.21486707]

>>21486701
Then you shouln't have started with >>21486622
, deepshit. You are the aggressive one here

[Anonymous No.21486708]

>>21486701
Dude, just don’t be a fucking retard and go to other book forums to talk about books. Like shit, how mentally damage do you have to be to think /sffg/ is a good place to discuss books?

[Puppet-master of /sffg/ No.21486709]

>>21486707
not made by me but imagine being so mad about a single post

[Anonymous No.21486713]

>>21486709
You can remove your trip already; we know you do this to kill the general.

[Anonymous No.21486714]

>>21486709
>It's like you people can't talk in any other way than meta

your words man , do what you preach

[Anonymous No.21486716]

>>21486702
OP ruined the thread, but don't worry, this one is going to page 10 soon

[Puppet-master of /sffg/ No.21486718]

Daily reminder not to read the Endymions

[Anonymous No.21486721]

just kill this thread already. Fuck sakes.

[Anonymous No.21486724]

I had no idea /sffg/ had this kind of crazy going on. Anon made a new thread, people have a meltdown over it.

[Anonymous No.21486725]

>>21486705
Oh really? I'm kind of surprised about that. I'm just a very character driven reader, and this book is NOT doing it for me. I'm trying so hard to hang on to Kuni Garu, because he's the one character worth reading about. All the others feel so throwaway. Secondaries in Kuni's story. But Kuni's presence is not enough for me to hang on too. The rest of a book doesn't have enough dramatic impact.

[Anonymous No.21486727]

>>21486695
>>21486702
Quality post! anon will now write a book about making a new general on page 8, it will be an epic journey full of hardship and sacrifice, the Schizo, the antagonist and the villain of the story will oppose Hero anon at every step.

[Anonymous No.21486731]

>>21486718
>The girl nodded, distracted. "I know. Not since the tombs opened right before the Fall." She looked up at the android. "Gosh, I'm starved. And filthy."
"I will help the ship prepare lunch," said A. Bettik. "There are showers upstairs in the master bedroom and on the fugue deck below us," he said. "Also a bath in the master bedroom."
"That's where I'm headed," said the girl. "I'll be down before we make the quantum jump. See you in twenty minutes." On her way to the stairs she stopped and took my hand again. "Raul Endymion, I'm sorry if I seem ungrateful. Thank you for risking your life for me. Thank you for coming with me on this trip. Thank you for getting into something so big and complicated that neither one of us can imagine where we're going to end up."
"You're welcome," I said stupidly.
The child grinned at me. "You need a shower, too, friend. Someday we'll take it together, but right now I think you should use the one on the fugue deck."
Blinking, not knowing what to think, I watched her bounce up the stairs.

[Anonymous No.21486734]

>>21486701
I don't but there is definitely one poster here who thinks that way.

[Anonymous No.21486738]

>>21486701
>>21486650
>>21486622
Are you pretending to be 3 different people? For what purpose?

[ChartMaker !!q5+P+/PyFx0 No.21486743]

>>21486738
Take your medication. I am one of the few people here who engage in fruitful discussions.

[Puppet-master of /sffg/ No.21486757]

>>21486743
>>21486738
for shitters everything is explained by some conspiracy

[Anonymous No.21486759]

>>21486743
Your first post >>21486622 says otherwise.

[Anonymous No.21486761]

This thread just proves that /sffg/ is beyond saving. Where do you guys actually go to discuss the books that you have read?

[Anonymous No.21486768]

>>21486743
You don't like reveiws
You don't like asking for recomendations
You don't like self-publishing
You don't like webnovels
You don't like female authors

what can we talk about , mr "fruitful discussion" ?

[Anonymous No.21486774]

>>21486761
This has been posted many times:
go back to r*ddit, discord and g**dreads to discuss books if you don't like /sffg/, n one is holding you here.

[ChartMaker !!q5+P+/PyFx0 No.21486775]

>>21486768
I don't like self-publishing or web novels. I do not know where you are getting those other things from.

[Anonymous No.21486778]

>>21486768
>You don't like female authors
That's just me probably. I have never seen anyone else post their dislike for female authors/characters/female drama

[Anonymous No.21486782]

>>21486606
Not even an hour and the thread is already lost cause.

[Puppet-master of /sffg/ No.21486795]

I love how this thread will deflect any newfags actually interested in sff.

[Anonymous No.21486798]

>>21486795
If they’re interested in sff, then they shouldn’t come here in the first place.

[Anonymous No.21486837]

I read blindsight by Peter Watts rescently and really enjoyed it, any books with a similiar feel?
Highly suggest it for anyone who hasnt read it, its a hard scifi first contact book

[Anonymous No.21486848]

>>21486837
It's cool until you realise he's just being smug and giving fantasy elements a SF explanation

[Anonymous No.21486850]

>>21486837
>its a hard scifi first contact book
If by hard sci-fi, you mean the author’s ability to skim wikipedia, then sure.

[Anonymous No.21486857]

>>21486795
They’ll find better websites if they actually care.

[Anonymous No.21486879]

>it's good momcest smut anon trust me
>ends up being a stepmom
Dropped.

[Anonymous No.21486880]

>>21486850
skimming wikipedia is based tho

[Anonymous No.21486883]

>>21486718
or Hyperion, or anything else /sffg/ recommends because they're just a bunch of fantasy douches. Maybe a dark wizard will send them on a quest far up their own asses to find some taste.

[Anonymous No.21486890]

>>21486879
cowards, all of them

[Anonymous No.21486896]

>>21486883
How retarded do you have to be to actually consider what idiots here recommend?

[Anonymous No.21486917]

>>21486879
>>21486890
Say it isn't so, I was looking forward to reading that this weekend.

[Anonymous No.21486926]

>>21486917
someone needs to just do an edit of the epub

[Anonymous No.21486942]

>>21486606
Do you tend to read individual novels or collected editions?

[Anonymous No.21486995]

>>21486837
Echopraxia

[Anonymous No.21487007]

I'm looking to read something that might have one of the following
>insect enemies/races
>dragons featured prominently
>very cozy, rustic vibes

[Anonymous No.21487020]

>>21486879
>Anya Merchant
I could've told you that by the author's name alone. Only men write incest.

>>21487007
Ascendant.

[Anonymous No.21487024]

>>21487020
>>21487020
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/54540316-ascendant
this?

[Anonymous No.21487026]

>>21487024
Yes, siree. It has all three of the things you mentioned.

[Anonymous No.21487028]

>>21487026
damn, nice

[Anonymous No.21487055]

>>21486850
In the epilogue he says that he consulted with actual physicist for what thats worth.
What should be the standart for hard scifi then?
Do you need to be an actual physicist to write it?
That seems rather unreasonable

[Anonymous No.21487072]

>>21486942
>>21486942
If the only thing available for a decent price, I'll get the collection or omnibus. If not, I prefer individual books.
That's a nice looking one; is the cleric quintet any good? I read the crystal shard to try salvatore and thought it was just alright, not good enough to get into the rest of the series.

[Anonymous No.21487073]

>>21486848
ehh kind of, but the explanations are way deeper than what I would call "soft" sf. At the end of the day its still fantasy, you cant expect the author to invent new actual science.
The point of the book though doesnt rely on the sf elements too much, the way I read it seemed like the main point was everything to do with conciousness, and its evolutionary meaning/use.

[Anonymous No.21487084]

>went to a bookstore for the first time in ages
>books have hashtags on them now
>like printed on the cover

[Anonymous No.21487115]

>>21487084
the fantasy genre was never serious to begin with, but as time goes on it's becoming more and more of an infantilizing ecapist method of coping
give it 10-15 years and then you'll just pay a bit to put in your favorite keywords, characters you already like, fetishes you're into, and the ai will write endless trash to consume for these losers

[Anonymous No.21487116]

>>21486880
combining aesthetic experience with entertaining, common core style education is an infantile trait, it's essentially anti-intellectual goyslop for muttoids

[Anonymous No.21487140]

>>21487115
sounds based

[Anonymous No.21487146]

>>21486942
Collections for convenience, but I treat them as individual novels so I won't read the whole thing in one go.

[Anonymous No.21487154]

>>21487055
>In the epilogue he says that he consulted with actual physicist for what thats worth.
Yes, but he applied a lot of speculative shit as hard facts of the setting.

[Anonymous No.21487189]

Finished Last Argument of Kings. What a wet fart of an ending. You could guess almost every twist since the first half of Before They Hang(book, that was almost entirely irrelevant in the end). Time to read standalones, i gues.

[Anonymous No.21487191]

>>21487154
well fuck what was he supposed to do, write about earth as it is?
not really scifi at that point
what you're describing is already better than most, where the explanation is alien material lol.

[Anonymous No.21487285]

Read The Wandering Inn, Read Mother of Learning, Read I Shall Seal the Heavens.

Also read The Prince of Nothing, Neuromancer, Cradle, A Song of Ice and Fire, Hyperion, Between Two Fires, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.21487295]

>>21487055
>Do you need to be an actual physicist to write it?
Yes.
If the author doesn't at least have a PhD in physics, it's not hard sf.

[Anonymous No.21487346]

Can I get a QRD about the mirrors chapter in the BotnS? I'm confused about what Inire is trying to explain. Are they just holographic representations or actual interstellar travel?

[Anonymous No.21487351]

>>21487346
its real interstellar travel, its weird but understanding its intricacies is not important. Just try to avoid concave mirrors alright? You don't want to end up accidentally on a spaceship's sails.

[Anonymous No.21487379]

>>21487007
The Wandering Inn

[Anonymous No.21487456]

>>21486879
I don't think you can have real incest on amazon

[Anonymous No.21487528]

>>21486606
The Dragon Never Sleeps art looks great on top of being one of Glen Cooks better sci-fi novels

[Anonymous No.21487530]

>>21486879
smut authors are so fucking worthless. can't even write smut properly.

[Anonymous No.21487598]

>>21486683
Everything you've stated is what I liked about it. Preferences differ. Each book in this series is rather different though, but I like them all. The overall /sffg/, or Goodreads fit that matter, consensus isn't that favorable, which is what you ought to looking at really, unless you know that a specific anon's taste is similar to yours. At least you had fun with the posts about it though.

[Anonymous No.21487676]

Any wuxia recommendations with great character development?

[Anonymous No.21487687]

>>21486606
based cookposter

[Anonymous No.21487712]

>>21487379
For once, it fits.

[Anonymous No.21487765]

This thread is awful

[Anonymous No.21487836]

/tv/ is a better place for sff book discussion desu this thread only exists for shitposting purposes

[Anonymous No.21487854]

>>21486879
>real smut hasn't happened yet and author is edging you along to get the next book that MIGHT have the real smut in it.

It's domestic decay all over again. Like 5 books before actual a pornhub stepmom moment. I shouldn't be surprised though since it's the same author.

[Anonymous No.21487865]

>>21487007
>>insect enemies/races
empire Trilogy by Janny Wurts

[Anonymous No.21487881]

>>21487007
>insect enemies/races
Infinite Realm but they aren't very prominent and take a long time to show up.
Codex Alera but it's six books of bad progression fantasy written due to a bet with the MC talk no jutsu'ing everything.
Seeded Realms had a spider race where the queen got absorbed into the MC's harem but that series lasted two books before the author disappeared.
I wish I could remember more books that I've read, and their contents.
>dragons
Iron Dragon's Daughter
Dragonriders of Pern

[Anonymous No.21487923]

has this cover art ever been found natively in high res? All I can find are book scans. Also I found a website that basically had an archive of a bunch of sci fi book cover art and now I can't find it agian.

[Anonymous No.21487944]

>>21487765
it's all the brain fried self pub/chink posters

[Anonymous No.21487994]

Any fantasy books about imperialism, where we don't switch to "cheer" for the savages halfway through?

[Anonymous No.21488009]

Any fantasy book that's mostly just from the main characters POV and just has everything you could ever ask for?

[Anonymous No.21488016]

>>21487994
Malazan.

[Anonymous No.21488075]

>>21488009

[Anonymous No.21488224]

>>21488016
inb4 gets filtered by gardens of the moon

[Anonymous No.21488250]

Malazan sucks. I dropped it during the doll fight when I realized I have no idea what the fuck is going on.
The thicc wizard woman was pretty cool though

[Anonymous No.21488262]

>>21488250
I started reading Malazan and lost track of who was who and what was happening after the first 10 minutes.

[Anonymous No.21488273]

>>21488016
Sure, but you never cheer for any of the empires either.

[Anonymous No.21488303]

>>21488250
>>21488262
Just read the glossary, it's that simple.

[Anonymous No.21488412]

>>21488303
>Just read
No.

[Anonymous No.21488479]

>>21488262
Imagine being filtered by the first book. I read it casually one day as I stumbled on it in a library. Everything was clear as day.

[Anonymous No.21488507]

>>21488479
>I read it casually one day as I stumbled on it in a library. Everything was clear as day.
This is me except I casually bough the first book, and saw nothing confusing about it. I think people just want to IMMEDIATELY know and understand everything or they want a character drama driven story where story is just kinda there.

[Anonymous No.21488526]

>>21488507
But I dont want to read past the first half a book to understand what's actually going on

[Anonymous No.21488543]

>>21487765
Were you really expecting anything different?

[Anonymous No.21488721]

I read this, and it was total dogshit. Baby's first eliminative materialism tract, constantly reiterated because apparently Bakker has no faith in the reader's ability to get the point unless he beats a dead horse. It doesn't help that no relevant character really presents an alternate perspective. The book has the preachiness of a certain variety of lecturer, but with none of the depth.

All this is wrapped up in an airport thriller of below average quality. Below the average of airport thrillers I've read, not just books in general. Weak dialogue, predictable, overly reliant on character retardation, and—worst of all—just sort of boring. I would not recommend this to anyone. If Neil had been a cute girl, I could at least recommend it to yandere-appreciator cumbrains, but unfortunately Bakker did not do this.

I hope his fantasy books aren't anywhere near this vapid and their pretensions aren't as unwarranted as this book's, or I'll be forced to admit /sffg/ memed me into reading a garbage author.

[Anonymous No.21488731]

>>21488721
so youre saying it's good for yandere appreciators as long as they are gay or women? good to know, going on my list

[Anonymous No.21488751]

>>21486774
I've never thought of using discord for book discussion
Post one here if you don't mind

[Anonymous No.21488782]

>>21488751
Sorry, I don't use discord but I have seen a /sffg/ dedicated server posted here a few times. Maybe somebody else got the link.

[Anonymous No.21488788]

>>21488782
The one time I visited the /sffg/ discord, they were actively talking about their relationships at the time. So good luck. Like anything else, its ran by normalfags.

[Anonymous No.21488808]

Who's the Nassim Nicholas Taleb of scifi?

[Anonymous No.21488829]

>>21486606
Any more speculative poetry like Clark Ashton Smith or Lovecraft?

[Anonymous No.21488830]

>>21488829
Kinda cringe ngl

[Anonymous No.21488833]

>>21488830
seething wolfefag

[Anonymous No.21488835]

>>21488808
Wrote something sort of interesting years ago which got popular, and since then has mostly just sat around being useless and shitposting online? George RR Martin, maybe.

[Anonymous No.21488836]

>>21486650
> ASOIAF is an easier read than LOTR
Huh?

[Anonymous No.21488842]

>>21487189
The standalones are better and more satisfying, not relying quite so heavily on "what if classic fantasy trope, but subvooooooorted???". But stop after you finish them and do not under any circumstances read the new trilogy. They seemed tolerable albeit a downgrade from the standalones are first, but book 3 is a steaming pile of shit and retroactively makes the first two books worse.

[Anonymous No.21488853]

>>21488833
Wolfe liked Lovecraft (pic related)

[Anonymous No.21488864]

>>21488842
Didn't notice a lot of subversion, just cynicism.

[Anonymous No.21488865]

>>21488853
wolfefags seethe over CAS mogging wolfe

[Anonymous No.21488884]

>>21488865
Maybe Wolfe just wanted to make a quick buck, like the majority of writers riding the coattails of the golden age of sci fi.

[Anonymous No.21488904]

>>21488865
I'm going to read Wolfe while listening to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2lniGMyV1k
There's nothing you can do to stop me

[Anonymous No.21488906]

>>21486942
speaking of which is any of that rpg factions actually good? warhammer novels are all over the place, but I've seen world of darkness, shadowrun, battletech, etc all have novels. are they worth reading?

[Anonymous No.21488915]

>>21488906
Not RPG per se but I liked the Magic the Gathering novels as a kid, even if they probably don't hold up now. I had the Ravnica stuff and I still like Memnarch.

[Anonymous No.21488930]

>>21488865
Is this your new bait, now that your attempts to force some kind of Vance v. Wolfe conflict failed?

[Anonymous No.21488958]

>>21488906
I remember reading Dark Ages: Nosferatu

First half of the book was super good. It was during the fall of Constantinople from the side of the defenders. Faith , politics , dark age misery , all the good stuff.

The seond half is a wierd road trip of some survivors , mostly setting up the future books , so , meh.

[Anonymous No.21488970]

>>21488788
>Like anything else, its ran by normalfags.
So they actually read books, unlike this general.

[Anonymous No.21489158]

>>21488884
hes a hack
>>21488904
you will always be a faggot
>>21488930
I'm exposing wolfefags who claim he is better than the authors he stole from like proust and smith and vance

[Anonymous No.21489163]

>>21489158
Good artists steal.

[Anonymous No.21489164]

>>21489158
Why waste your time on something so stupid?

[Anonymous No.21489172]

>>21489164
NTA but I used to shitpost on /tg/ until I finally got curious about the games and now I no longer shitpost, and I've joined many games since. I think it's just attention-seeking augmented by an ego that makes you think your opinions are right.

[Anonymous No.21489185]

>>21484308
How many comma splices did you guys find? Whoever "translated" this didn't know his basic grammar
Are comma splices bad? Wikipedia says they are used in literary writing to convey a particular mood of informality. It also lists several western authors who used it.

[Anonymous No.21489191]

>>21489185
>Are comma splices bad?
They are for any person who speaks English as their first language. An ESL like you wouldn't understand given that you read MTL stories.

[Anonymous No.21489251]

>>21489163
Is the cope of bad artists
>>21489164
>>21489172
Because these threads are shit
Because wolfefags are cancerous retards
don't say your shitty middling sci fi book is better than proust and i wouldn't dedicate myself to btofing your fat hack author

[Anonymous No.21489286]

https://douthat.substack.com/p/the-falcons-children

In which a white heterosexual Christian conservative American journalist who after being declined by traditional publishing puts out the prologue and first chapter of his debut epic fantasy book. I think he's fairly well-known as a journalist.

[Anonymous No.21489293]

>>21489191
He was just expressing his thoughts on the matter, it was almost an internal monologue. Do native speakers always formulate full grammatically correct sentences and paragraphs when having internal monologue?

[Anonymous No.21489303]

>>21488836
Yes? Asoiaf is written in very simple prose and is structured like a modern tv show so it's very easy to plough through it.

[Anonymous No.21489318]

>>21486650
>Hitchhiker
>Lies of locke lamora
>Malazan
>A tier
HAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.21489349]

>>21489318
brainlet

[Anonymous No.21489366]

>>21489349
reddit

[Anonymous No.21489373]

>>21488906
Didn't even realize shadowrun had books. I'm going to find these now

[Anonymous No.21489378]

>>21489366
you'd know all about it, huh?

[Anonymous No.21489398]

>>21489378
I know enough to know that you should go back redditurd.

[Anonymous No.21489412]

>>21489398
keep projecting

[Anonymous No.21489424]

>>21489412
>p-projecting !
Most creative brainlet. Also why aren't you using your tripcode chartfaggot?

[Anonymous No.21489453]

>>21489318
List your A tier.

[Anonymous No.21489474]

>>21486650
Fixed.

[Anonymous No.21489486]

>>21488930
That's the weirdest part, he's forcing conflict between authors who either liked in tandem. It's difficult to imagine how someone can like Wolfe and not like Vance and CAS.

[Anonymous No.21489494]

>>21489251
>don't say your shitty middling sci fi book is better than proust
Wolfe is better than Proust

[Anonymous No.21489545]

>>21486879
She wrote incest before, but Amazon doesn't like incest so she had to rewrite it as step-mom
>>21487020
Stop being an incel, women love incest as much as men.

[Anonymous No.21489629]

>>21489486
Yeah it's pretty perplexing. I may personally feel that Wolfe improved upon some of his influences (like Vance) but I'm not going to be mad about some guy liking one thing I love more than he likes another thing I love. He'd have better luck baiting an emotional seethe reaction if he made unfavorable comparisons to some webnovel. As things stand, it just looks like he saw some guy say "BotNS is better than Proust!" once and has been in a seething meltdown ever since.

[Anonymous No.21489670]

>>21489251
Listen here, you narrow-minded little twerp, I'll say whatever the hell I want about my "shitty middling sci fi book." And if you think Proust is some kind of goddamn literary god, you can go ahead and worship at his altar, but I'll stick to my own tastes, thank you very much. As for you calling me a "fat hack author," well, that's just about the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. You don't even know me, so why don't you shut your trap and crawl back under the rock you came from. And while you're at it, you can take your "btofing" and shove it up your ass.

[Anonymous No.21489780]

>>21489545
ugly hag

[Anonymous No.21489809]

>>21489780
I bet you're into lolis

[Anonymous No.21489840]

>>21489670
based

[Anonymous No.21489861]

>>21489545
any books where the main character fucks grannies?

[Anonymous No.21489877]

>>21489861
my biography

[Anonymous No.21489881]

>>21489861
The Stand.

[Anonymous No.21489888]

>>21486650
Time to create an actual good chart, cause this one is shit, contains not enough books and is UGLY

[Anonymous No.21489895]

>>21489888
>UGLY
what aesthetic would you suggest?

[Anonymous No.21489906]

>>21489861
If This Goes On— by Robert Heinlein
There was a hot readhead Gilf in The Rolling Stones, also written by heinlein but the Main characters don't fuck her because she is their grandma.
Zimmer Bradley writes about that kind of stuff too but she was a pedo.

[Anonymous No.21489922]

Just finished reading pic related, it was pretty interesting. Anyone have any other recommendations from this author? or similar books?

[Anonymous No.21489938]

>>21489922
Quarantine was my favorite by him. It was playful and fun, and did a great job pushing its central idea one step further at each turn. Didn't care for Distress, and Dichronauts filtered me (though I tried to read it drunk).

[Anonymous No.21489951]

>>21489938
thanks I'll check it out from your recommendation anon

[Anonymous No.21489984]

>>21489424
>Also why aren't you using your tripcode chartfaggot?
He thinks people will be to stupid to notice his pattern.

[Anonymous No.21490040]

>>21487295
Vernor Vinge used to be a math professor, that must mean a fire upon the deep is the hardest sf ever.

[Anonymous No.21490049]

>>21490040
Yes, since he knows mathematics and computer science. What's your point.

[Anonymous No.21490053]

>>21489545
>Amazon doesn't like incest so she had to rewrite it as step-mom
So basically there's no way to get actual momcest lit because everyone will just rewrite it to be able to publish on Amazon.

[Anonymous No.21490109]

>>21489922
I haven't read everything from Egan yet, but I've read a considerable amount. I'm generally less happy with what I wrote the further it goes back, but that's to be expected.

>>/lit/?task=search2&ghost=&search_text=Greg+egan&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=sffg&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=old&search_capcode=all&search_res=post

[Anonymous No.21490133]

>>21489922

[Anonymous No.21490150]

>>21490053
In all seriousness, why not go to a website that has momcest and other kink/fetish stories? Literotica n what not?

[Anonymous No.21490156]

>>21490150
that's like asking them to go to /d/

[Anonymous No.21490165]

>>21490150
>Literotica
it's shit, 2 pages of build up and they are already fucking. only mom cucking stories have good build but i'm not a cuck

[Anonymous No.21490168]

>>21490150
because those websites offer porn with barely any plot, and what this guy is asking for is, presumably, a decent plot with a bit of porn on the side
at least that's what my personal preference is when searching for kinks in professionally published literature

[Anonymous No.21490169]

>>21490165
how many mom cucking stories did you read and enjoy to come to that conclusion?

[Anonymous No.21490182]

>>21490156
>>21490165
>>21490168
Appreciate the answers. Been bugging me for the past few threads. Outside of hiring someone to write them, I wish you luck on finding something.
>>21490169
kek

[Anonymous No.21490189]

>>21490169
More than i want to admit, but they left me feeling empty because by the end of the story the mom abandons her son and that just feels mean spirited

[Anonymous No.21490192]

I thought this blog about the psychology of litrpg was interesting. Perhaps more importantly it justifies my sense of superiority for not reading it in the first place

https://drmaciver.substack.com/p/psychology-of-litrpg

[Anonymous No.21490194]

>>21490133

[Anonymous No.21490203]

My fantasy book is about a futures trader and a princess. They fall in love and run away together. It’s set in a medieval fantasy world. Do you like the premise?

[Anonymous No.21490207]

>>21490194
more like coom city

[Anonymous No.21490224]

>>21490203
Your medieval fantasy world has futures trading? How anachronistic.

>the first official Western commodity trading exchange, the London Metals and Market Exchange, was not established until 1877.

[Anonymous No.21490236]

>>21490203
How medieval is it? Irl it would have been unthinkable for a princess to marry a non-military commoner at least before the 19th century. They would both have been hunted down for high treason. The trader's career would be over. Besides, the courtiers were known to speak different languages from commoners (in my cunt they spoke French). Are you sure the trader knows the princess' language? Is the princess inbred and ugly? Does she have some kind of genetic disease?
>>21489861
Book of the New Sun

[Anonymous No.21490259]

>>21490192
Most other genre fiction does the same thing.

[Anonymous No.21490281]

>>21490236
Commoners were more inbred and ugly than nobility because their entire genepool was some bumfuck tiny village nobody new ever moved to. They only got new genes when some soldiers came through and did some raping. Meanwhile nobility restricted themselves to nobility, but went pretty far afield, sometimes even to different countries, for a spouse! "Muh inbred nobles" is almost entirely commoner cope, absent some obvious situations like the Habsburgs fairly late in the history of European aristocracy

[Anonymous No.21490288]

>>21490224
The Dojima Rice Exchange in the 18th century was the first one, but you had futures contracts in various commodities before that.

>>21490236
It’s just a standard medieval fantasy world with magic. They run away together when she becomes pregnant, and they travel to the free cities after they run away from the Kingdom.

What do you guys think? Does it sound interesting? I write a lot about his trading system as well. It’s a standard trend following system using signals from 1 month to 12 months (diversified with some vol weights).
https://www.aqr.com/Insights/Research/Journal-Article/A-Century-of-Evidence-on-Trend-Following-Investing

It’s mostly a mix of romance, slice of life, finance, and some fantasy/magic.

[Anonymous No.21490305]

>>21490288
So basically you want to write your version of Spice & Wolf.

[Anonymous No.21490320]

>>21490281
You're absolutely wrong. The priests kept records and dod their best to avoid inbreeding. The peasants married other peasants from neighboring villages, or at least from outside of their immediate family. Besides, the nobles were known to trade serfs and move them from one country to another. Free people would also move away from their native land.

[Anonymous No.21490334]

>>21490305
I guess so, although I haven’t read that book.

My main worry is that people will find parts of it boring. I spend a lot of time writing about how he gets survivorship bias free data to backtest his strategy and how he backtests it effectively without using computers (they obviously don’t exist…). I find it to be a very enjoyable topic, but I’m not sure how the average fantasy reader feels about it. I always mix in some romance and politics (and there’s a war going on as well), so I think it has a broad enough appeal.

Does it sound boring to you?

[Anonymous No.21490335]

>A sudden instinct made him tense as a strange, familiar sensation fluttered in his chest. He looked up, breath strangling in his throat Soaring through the sky were dragons, more than a hundred of them. The sires and she-dragons Feylin had so carefully counted had produced hatchlings, none of which had been slaughtered by a hunt. No bigger than young children, they beat their wings powerfully, keeping up with their watchful elders on the journey from the caves around Skybowl and Feruche to the cool heights of the Catha Hills in the south.
>Rohan felt his throat tighten, his eyes sting. His dragons, more than he had ever seen before in his life, free and proud and alive. His dragons.
>As they flew from the Desert across the Faolain, the chant began again. But it was not his name that rumbled along the riverbank, growing louder, following the dragons over Roelstra’s camp as hundreds of wings cast shadows on the violet tents. Someone knowing the old tongue had renamed Rohan, given him
the single powerful word that would be his for the rest of his life.
>Azhei. Dragon Prince.
Rawn-sama i-i kneel.

[Anonymous No.21490339]

>A sudden instinct made him tense as a strange, familiar sensation fluttered in his chest. He looked up, breath strangling in his throat Soaring through the sky were dragons, more than a hundred of them. The sires and she-dragons Feylin had so carefully counted had produced hatchlings, none of which had been slaughtered by a hunt. No bigger than young children, they beat their wings powerfully, keeping up with their watchful elders on the journey from the caves around Skybowl and Feruche to the cool heights of the Catha Hills in the south.
>Rohan felt his throat tighten, his eyes sting. His dragons, more than he had ever seen before in his life, free and proud and alive. His dragons.
>As they flew from the Desert across the Faolain, the chant began again. But it was not his name that rumbled along the riverbank, growing louder, following the dragons over Roelstra’s camp as hundreds of wings cast shadows on the violet tents. Someone knowing the old tongue had renamed Rohan, given him the single powerful word that would be his for the rest of his life.
>Azhei. Dragon Prince.
Rawn-sama I-i kneel...

[Anonymous No.21490342]

>>21490335
cool

[Anonymous No.21490348]

>>21490281
Most commoners throughout history have been well aware of the dangers of inbreeding which is why practices that promote genetic mixing are so damn common. E.g. giving young women as tribute, inter-marrying between clans to strengthen alliances

[Anonymous No.21490353]

>>21490192
I read this. I have thoughts, but it's not worth the effort to express. It was mildly interesting.

I agree with
>>21490259

[Anonymous No.21490381]

>>21489486
>That's the weirdest part, he's forcing conflict between authors who either liked in tandem
No
Wolfefags time and time agains have kept on stating shit like "Wolfe invented dying earth" or "BOTNS is the best dying earth novel" or "vance and smith are shit, wolfe is the best"
I will continue to call them and their hack author out if they keep making these statements
>It's difficult to imagine how someone can like Wolfe and not like Vance and CAS.
Really?
Are you retarded?
Why the hell do you think I'd like a fat catholics shitty, bloated, meandering self indulgent series of 12 books just because wolfe happened to rip off the dying earth and use it as a background for his shitty severian self insert?
>>21489629
No, I see wolfefags promoting their book as the second coming of christ, saying BOTNS is better than proust, saying that the shitty part where severian is on a becah is the most beautiful bit of prose ever written, saying they converted to catholicism over it. You spastic
the only people who shill wolfe are immature tradcath zoomer larpers who started reading BOTNs because their favorite twitter e celeb/sam hyde promoted it

[Anonymous No.21490394]

>>21490334
It sounds like you're more interested in the science fiction aspects, in the original meaning of the term, than the fantasy, so I think it may be a hard sell for the average fantasy fan. In terms of the trading that requires a lot of information that may not be available, let alone current. I think if you want to have any plausibility to what you're doing you'll have to vastly limit the character's effectivesness unless there's some magic involved. A mildly similar novel I've read is The Dragon's Banker. There are a few traditionally published fantasy novels I've read that involve some finance.

Yes, the average person will find it boring, as you probably would for something you aren't interested in. It seems like it may also be noticed that you just tacked on other elements with the hope of greater appeal. That is unlikely to be satisfactory. With this kind of story you have to be satisfied with a niche audience and embrace that.

If you want to be popular, sell well, or otherwise do well you can't write that way.

[Anonymous No.21490403]

>>21490334
>My main worry is that people will find parts of it boring.
The people that find the main thrust of the book boring aren't your audience to begin with

[Anonymous No.21490565]

You people tricked me in to thinking Bakker was some cream of the crop type shit but this guy writes some totally unengaging characters, for the most part. Working through The Warrior Prophet. The plot and all the mystery has me hooked but if I have to suffer through another chapter of some retard whining and being sad for themselves in such a way again, I will rip this book in half.

[Anonymous No.21490571]

>>21490565
They spam bakker to trick people into reading something stupid anon.

[Anonymous No.21490621]

>>21490565
Why the fuck would you even consider reading books that are recommended here? Are you that fucking stupid?

[Anonymous No.21490630]

Momkino back on the menu boys!

You never stop worrying about your kids, even when they're adults. Kate Elliott's action-packed The Keeper's Six features a world-hopping, bad-ass, spell-slinging mother who sets out to rescue her kidnapped adult son from a dragon lord with everything to lose.

It’s been a year since Esther set foot in the Beyond, the alien landscape stretching between worlds, crossing boundaries of space and time. She and her magical traveling party—her Hex—haven’t spoken since the Concilium banned them from the Beyond for a decade. But when she wakes in the middle of the night to her grown son’s cry for help, the members of her Hex are the only ones she can trust to help her bring him back from wherever he has been taken.

Esther will have to risk everything to find him. Undercover and hidden from the Concilium, she and her Hex will be tested by false dragon lords, a darkness so dense it can suffocate, and the bones of an old crime come back to haunt her.

There are terrors that dwell in the space between worlds.

On Sale: 01/17/2023

[Anonymous No.21490648]

Wheel of Time, apparently Lanfear faked her death and is alive at the end of the series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTwpNP67A4M
What do I think about this?

[Anonymous No.21490656]

>>21490648
Retarded, her death is explicit and never even remotely implied to be anything other than what it was.
Sammael on the other hand is only presumed dead and nobody ever saw a body, or even saw him die. Moghedien is alive, but enslaved.

[Anonymous No.21490674]

>>21490630
Advertising is against the rules.

[Anonymous No.21490691]

>>21490621
I like to have faith in people and believe that their words are genuine rather than memes.
>>21490571
It's not even particularly bad or stupid or anything, it's pretty good but feels almost juvenile in how mean spirited it is. It's hard to empathize with lots of the characters or their problems because it's overboard on how miserable everyone must be all the time.

[Anonymous No.21490708]

>>21490691
>I like to have faith in people and believe that their words are genuine rather than memes
Did you forget that you’re on /sffg/.

[Anonymous No.21490733]

>>21490708
It's faith, anon, it's not always rational but it helps me.

[Anonymous No.21490764]

>>21490691
I'm sure some of the Bott Fakker spammers actually like his books. They're retarded.

[Anonymous No.21490780]

>>21490674
Shut up nerd

[Anonymous No.21490784]

>>21490733
Maybe if you were in a book forum, but no here.

[Anonymous No.21490787]

>>21490691
It is not a matter of genuine or not, but one of taste.

[Anonymous No.21490891]

>>21490733
I really doubt it.

[Anonymous No.21491010]

I forgot I'd read this until just now

[Anonymous No.21491012]

21475188
I read up to eternal prison on the avery cates series iirc though it was a long time ago. Though I really want to read them again so I'll probably do that when I can find them. I enjoyedreading them a lot, though at times it felt like my copy had grammar mistakes all over the place which sucked me out but maybe I was just retarded at english? Pretty fun read anyway if ya like the genre and gruff MC's. Tbh the most odd thing is that I've never met anyone else who has read or even heard of this series.

[Anonymous No.21491170]

>>21490381
>I will continue to call them and their hack author out if they keep making these statements
By all means do, but lately what I've been seeing is you leaping upon any mention of Wolfe, no matter how innocuous, to post the same repetitive stuff. No statements of Wolfe's superiority required. I can't even remember the last time I saw someone make a statement along the lines you describe, wanking off Wolfe while simultaneously disparaging Vance or Smith. Shit, in this thread Wolfe wasn't even mentioned in the post that set you off, and the only post which did mention him was one which treated Vance with respect and only disparaged Harrison's 'Viriconium'.

It's difficult to look at this and not assume one of two things is the case:
- You got so buttblasted by some random guys overrating Wolfe or underrating other stuff that now you see them everywhere and jump at shadows in every thread.
- You're an insincere shitposter.
Neither seems especially enjoyable, consider giving it a rest until someone actually makes the kind of statements you're unhappy about.

[Anonymous No.21491174]

>>21490648
That was really the big reveal? That's stupid as fuck. Who even cares? Does Brando at least say how that's relevant at the end of the series?

[Anonymous No.21491209]

>>21486768
This post is under reveiw.

[Anonymous No.21491215]

>>21487072
>That's a nice looking one; is the cleric quintet any good? I read the crystal shard to try salvatore and thought it was just alright, not good enough to get into the rest of the series.
It's slower than The Crystal Shard and protagonist is a somewhat atypical cleric. I'd recommended, but then again I always liked how D&D novels translated RPG mechanics into fiction.

[Anonymous No.21491375]

>>21490168
Why not just have plot and story and no porn

[Anonymous No.21491408]

>>21490236
Rus roach?

[Anonymous No.21491478]

>>21490691
Bakker is a new atheist sort type, it's natural he can only write pathetic characters.

[Anonymous No.21491497]

>>21490565
I guess introspection is a foreign thing to you.
>>21491478
Source: I saw it in a dream.

[Anonymous No.21491503]

>>21491497
Source: his doctoral thesis. He wrote a PhD in some reductionist materialist garbage.

[Anonymous No.21491508]

>>21490565
Thanks for warning me. He was next on my reading list, so looks like I'm be replacing him.

[Anonymous No.21491538]

>>21490565
>reading the best book of the trilogy
>whining about character introspection in a grim dark novel
>not realising Cnaiur is the most human of all the characters

[Anonymous No.21491552]

Read this based on that bookpilled fags recommendation. It was kinda fun, I liked the biopunk stuff, but the ending wasn't as revelatory as I was led to believe. 3/5

[Anonymous No.21491574]

>>21490203
That's just Dungeon Black Company without the fun

[Anonymous No.21491696]

how many of the oz books should i read before reading wicked?

[Anonymous No.21491717]

>>21486606
I haven't read Dick in ages, used to love him. Now I'm reading Dr. Bloodmoney after not touching him in maybe 6-7 years. He's fantastic. Absolutely was the right choice after the letdown that was Viriconium.

[Anonymous No.21491799]

>>21491010
is it good?

[Anonymous No.21491819]

>>21491696
At least the first two (in publication order ofc)

[Anonymous No.21491833]

>>21491717
PKD is awesome. The worst part about Viriconium is it stars so strong then dies out. Grand Cairo was based though

[Anonymous No.21491842]

>>21491552
I liked it even though all I remember about it is liking it and I think I read it right after reading Flowers for Algernon

[Anonymous No.21491863]

>>21491799
It's the most generic xianxia ever.

[Anonymous No.21491865]

>>21491819
thanks. i'll do first 2 then, or 3 if i can, because read the 3rd one is bit relevant too

[Anonymous No.21491877]

I'm having trouble coming up with a title for my science fiction story, any recommendations on how to reach one?

[Anonymous No.21491895]

>>21491877
go to /wg/
Also:
>being able to write a whole story but not being able to name it
Also, if you haven't written the story yet, who cares?

[Anonymous No.21491897]

>>21491863
good.
i will now read.

[Anonymous No.21491904]

>>21491897
It's at least readable, unlike Heaven's Laws

[Anonymous No.21491967]

I read the Hobbit and all I can think about is Beorn’s diet of honey, nuts, cream, fruit, and bread. It sounds like a very calorie dense diet, but also a very good way to get diabetes and die at the ripe old age of 29.

But I think it’s still a very good children’s book, though it’s definitely far more long-winded than I’d ever thought it’d be.

[Anonymous No.21491992]

>>21487007
Flow on RoyalRoad

[Anonymous No.21492006]

>>21491967
Ironically that all still has way less sugar than the average westerner's diet. You would be way less likely to get diabetes off of that then modern day goyslop.

[Anonymous No.21492042]

>>21491967
Beorn is a shapeshifter. I think we can safely say he's not normal.

[Anonymous No.21492088]

>>21491967
The entire Mongol army lived almost entirely off of alchoholic fermented yogurt and refused any vegetables or grains to the extent they'd rather starve that attempt eating it. Anything goes if you burn enough calories, that diet doesn't even sound particularly odd.

[Anonymous No.21492101]

thoughts on this masterpiece?

[Anonymous No.21492111]

>>21492101
It's shit. Read this instead.

[Anonymous No.21492149]

>>21492111
has anyone made a kindle/digital book version with all chapters in? i would read if i can put everything on my kindle but no way im sitting on my pc all day, not using phone either

[Anonymous No.21492154]

>>21491833
Pastel City didn't even start out that strong, it just never had the prose necessary to make the setting alive. It was all so lifeless and without the ability to conjur images in me as a reader. Unlike Vance, Wolfe, CAS, Howard or Leiber, who all wrote similarly structures stories.

[Anonymous No.21492157]

>>21492149
i spent like 2h taking my favorite literotica series and formatting it, and that was only 15 chapters or so
ironically it got deleted not long after so it turned out to be a good decision

[Anonymous No.21492164]

>>21492157
>and that was only 15 chapters or so
yeah, i think lord of the mysteries is 1k++?? no way im doing that

wew, when author or some autist decides to that for me i will read
thats why i only read webnovels when they release on amazon kindle, shit its free anyway, better read something else and wait

[Anonymous No.21492198]

>>21491967
>far more long-winded than I'd ever thought it'd be
Only have about 50 pages left to go before I finish. I find the long-windedness comes from his prose rather than anything else (descriptions of nature, especially). Other than that it's actually fairly fast paced, and he doesn't spend too much time in any one place.

[Anonymous No.21492220]

do you losers really read machine translated bug fiction

[Anonymous No.21492238]

>>21492220
No, only transitioning manga niggas do that.

[Anonymous No.21492264]

>>21492149
> has anyone made a kindle/digital book version with all chapters in?
Yes, you can google for it or use WebToEpub and scrape your own.

[Anonymous No.21492465]

Fat lazy faggot eternally BTFOd

[Anonymous No.21492503]

>>21492220
No but I read fan translated bug fiction.

[Anonymous No.21492521]

>>21492503
What's hilarious is that RI is LITERALLY bug fiction, the title is bugs, the setting is bugs, the plot is bugs, Fang Yuan even realizes that even the cultivators are actually bugs too. So it's literally a story about a bugman living in a bug who collects bugs to feed to his bugs to make more bugs.
And it beats every novel written in the last 100 years in philosophical depth.

[Anonymous No.21492528]

>>21491170
>By all means do, but lately what I've been seeing is you leaping upon any mention of Wolfe, no matter how innocuous, to post the same repetitive stuff. No statements of Wolfe's superiority required. I can't even remember the last time I saw someone make a statement along the lines you describe, wanking off Wolfe while simultaneously disparaging Vance or Smith. Shit, in this thread Wolfe wasn't even mentioned in the post that set you off, and the only post which did mention him was one which treated Vance with respect and only disparaged Harrison's 'Viriconium'.
Wolfefags continue to disparage the authors that Wolfe ripped from. And I was tricked into reading BOTNS (thankfully I didn't give the Wolfe estate a single penny as it was a second hand copy) thinking it would be "based" and anything like Vance or Smith and instead it turned out to be meandering midwit self insert wankery
And thus I will call Wolfefags out for it
No surprise, /lit/ has shit taste, the same kind of subhuman midwit dreck who think blood meridian is peak literature are the same people who think fat catholic and his self insert who fucks all the woman is "based" and better written than Ashton Smith or Vance

[Anonymous No.21492542]

>>21492465
I don't know. It just says he didn't deliver without any new detail. In the end she says he might still get a film deal following gurm's unfinished path.
Does anybody know what he does all day? Just sit around and get high? Go to cons?

[Anonymous No.21492579]

>>21489318
>Why yes, I do think that Malazan should move to S tier

[Anonymous No.21492589]

>Dragonlance
>38 year old universe/series/whatever
>getting its first new official works in well over a decade and by the original two authors at that
>plot predominantly revolves around time travel right off the bat and going back to significant events in the past
Methinks this is going to be chock full of retcons, mite b cool.

[Anonymous No.21492592]

>>21492521
I love bugs, I like bees and ants and I never flush spiders down the drain. Not sure why autists get so triggered by bugs. Even if supposedly bugs (or chinese) are unthinking a drones following commands, it's clear that the author of RI is nothing like that.

[Anonymous No.21492613]

>>21488526
It's like 12,000 pages altogether, so 300 to find the first real footing isn't all that bad

[Anonymous No.21492617]

>>21492542
Streaming on twitch apparently

[Anonymous No.21492635]

>>21492542
>bu-but I can't write when the orange bad man is in power!

[Anonymous No.21492669]

Any sff where the protagonist isn't a gigachad for whom every woman falls instantly?

[Anonymous No.21492673]

Kino on the menu boys....

[Anonymous No.21492679]

>>21492101
Cringe, reddit, but somwhat fun.

Do you really want to read about every way magic in HP is retarded, and how much fanfic shit can you tolerate?

[Anonymous No.21492696]

>>21492673
who reads this shit
seriously
i understand badly written wish fulfillment but this is goyslop of the highest level

[Anonymous No.21492734]

>>21492696
Apparently half the posters here. A sad state of affairs but people are adamant about the superiority of progression fantasy, xianxia, litRPG, and rest of the smut.

[Anonymous No.21492747]

>>21492696
A bunch of filthy fun-havers.

[Anonymous No.21492767]

>>21491497
Introspection is definitely not a foreign thing to me. I guess I just have a more difficult time getting in to the character and world when, like I said, it goes overboard on the woe and misfortune. Every love is either false or feels to be doomed, always more tragic bloodshed and fucked up little dudes who got raped or jacked off by their mommy. Why should I care?

>>21491538
You've read me all wrong bro Cnaiur is 100% the most human character in the story, I love that man. I'm reading this for him, the conspiracies, and Kellhus. Occasionally there's a good Achamian section I'll give it that but every Cnaiur chapter is a banger.

>>21491508
I'd consider it to still be worth checking out, there's more good than bad certainly.

[Anonymous No.21492773]

>>21492767
faggot weeper

[Anonymous No.21492808]

>>21492696
better question is why is this shit in this thread
parasites

[Anonymous No.21492811]

>>21491503
I got turned off Bakker when I read the introduction he wrote for some short story anthology. It was some freshman undergrad tier tripe on the nature of evil and what makes a compelling story. I refuse to believe the man who wrote that preface knows how to write a good book.

[Anonymous No.21492836]

>>21492808
how do you feel knowing litrpg chads will keep posting here forever?

[Anonymous No.21492841]

>>21492836
poorly

[Anonymous No.21492921]

>>21492836
Vaguely annoyed, and nostalgic for the days when /sffg/ was very slightly less shit.

[Anonymous No.21492923]

>>21492734
>>21492696
You know over the past 2 weeks, I read Thomas Malory's original La Morte d'Arthur, and something that positively astonished me was that at least 75% of the interior of the book, if not more, was endlessly repetitive and mind-numbing tournament fight-fag autism and half-assed "chivalric" simping like any of a thousand identical shounen animes. The distinction between King Arthur's Knights of the Round Table and Naruto or Yu-Gi-Oh or Dragonball Z, or any of those ten trillion unreadable chinklit progression novels is almost purely superficial; except for two things.
1. It was written 600 years ago so it has the excuse of being, literally, novel, for the society in which it was written.
2. The ~25% of the book surrounding the tournament-shit was the most exquisitely moving poetry you have ever read, and literally the reason Arthurian legends survive into the modern cultural milieu. That is something LitRPGs, cultivation "literature", or Journey to the West fanfiction does not possess, and never will possess.

[Anonymous No.21492932]

>>21492734
Shitty bait. Putting all these in one category is absolutely dumb and no one does it. I like progression and I like power fantasy, but I hate smut and I have read a several xanxias, most I dropped, few were ok.

[Anonymous No.21492940]

>>21492923
La morte d'Arthur is the attack on titan of English literature (this comment makes no sense).

[Anonymous No.21492949]

Books about killing retarded subhuman niggers (like most of the anons in this general)?

[Anonymous No.21492962]

Anyone advise on how to get Karl Edward Wagner's Kane series? Individual books go for 80 shekels and the omnibus for close to 3x that. Abebooks and ebay were the sites i used. No epub or pdfs i could find after looking

[Anonymous No.21493029]

>>21492949
Wandering Inn

[Anonymous No.21493047]

>>21492962
Yeah, the books are expensive because the wagner estate only ever release them in expensive hardbacks. your only hope of cheap physical copies is ebay
Kindle versions are alright but for some reason they removed some of the swear words (without spoiling it, one of our protagonists calls his traitorous lover a bitch and it's removed in the kindle edition)
all the kane books were available on z-lib before it went down, they can be found on epdf as well https://epdf.tips/night-windscb58f1b4845136da867b1842b2af5a0213663.html
i recommend starting with either night winds or bloodstone, they're the best introductions to Kane IMO

[Anonymous No.21493052]

>>21492949
Bakker

[Anonymous No.21493066]

Be careful guys, we're almost to 300. Someone might make a new thread before hitting page 10.

[Anonymous No.21493075]

>>21493052
Already read. I'd settle for any bakker like book recommendations
>>21493029
Kys

[Anonymous No.21493081]

>>21493047
z-lib isn't down, you can still access it with telegram bot, android APK software, or straight via onion browser, all the books are right there, ripe for the picking

[Puppet-master of /sffg/ No.21493085]

>>21493066
I will make a new one at page 8

[Anonymous No.21493089]

>>21493081
I wish someone would just upload stuff to other sites as well.

[Anonymous No.21493128]

>>21492949
Mother of Learning

[Anonymous No.21493135]

>>21483709
Just read the impossible wizard.
>boring
>bland
>''nothing happened'' the book
1/10

[Anonymous No.21493137]

>>21492949
I Shall Seal the Heavens

[Anonymous No.21493162]

>>21492696
Right now litrpg/gamelit is better than 90% of currently published sff books. Current sff publishing is THAT bad. In addition, there are so many free to read gems that no publishing house would support.

[Anonymous No.21493166]

>>21493089
I can't believe you are this hopeless. Well, you can go to >>>/t/ where there is a SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY COLLECTION THREAD where you can find mega links where you can find Wagner's works.

[Anonymous No.21493169]

>>21493162

[Anonymous No.21493170]

>>21493162
>Current sff publishing is THAT bad.
Not really. It's more that LNs and web fiction are their own special kind of hell when it comes to garbage.

[Anonymous No.21493189]

>>21492923
At least half of anime is repackaging pre-20th century Western pop lit. Carmilla is unironically a light novel from 1989 and JS le Fanu is a time traveler.

[Anonymous No.21493213]

>>21493170
Better than Sanderson.
Haven't read Malazan yet

[Anonymous No.21493226]

>>21493085
Why not wait for page 10

[Anonymous No.21493235]

>>21493226
Why do you care you raging autist

[Anonymous No.21493253]

>>21493235
read the thread. anon is obviously having a laugh at how it went down the last time.

[Anonymous No.21493255]

>>21493235
Because it's been like that for months now?

[Anonymous No.21493256]

>>21493162
Every piece of LitRPG type stuff I've seen shilled here and looked into is outright worse than fanfiction, people would unironically be better off just reading fanfic. Most currently published stuff is shit, sure, but one thing being shit does not magically transmute another piece of shit into gold.

[Anonymous No.21493266]

>>21493085
And it'll be just as shitty as this thread.

[Anonymous No.21493267]

>>21493255
WHOOOOOOA CALM DOWN YOU RAGING AUTIST

[Anonymous No.21493280]

>>21493066
you have no idea how hard I'm resisting the temptation right now, anon

[Anonymous No.21493287]

I finally finished re-reading Deadhouse Gates as part of my Malazan re-read. When I first read this book I was a teenager and I liked it because it was violent and characters would say seemingly profound things every other page. Now I re-read it and I mostly am baffled by what kind of messaging Erikson is trying to achieve. In any other fictional story, except maybe like Warhammer tie-in novels, the Malazan Empire would be the bad guys. They came from across the sea to brutally conquer this continent of brown people who were living their lives in isolation for the most part, installed a class of creole race-traitors to oversee them, and exact yearly tribute from their plundered coffers.

YET despite all this, the Malazan Empire are considered the good guys, or at the very least, the majority of characters you are supposed to empathize with are affiliated with the Malazans somehow. Every chance Erikson gets he points out how brutal and savage the rebels are, even though they are the faction that frankly has the most understandable motivations. They've been oppressed by a foreign power for decades that installs women and blacks in key positions of authority over them. The Malazan Empire is literally globohomo and it makes me wonder if Erikson, being as self-aware as he is, is either (a) making the point that liberalism can only be enforced at the point of a gun and using irony to say this is a BAD thing or (b) liberalism can only be enforced at the point of a gun and this is a GOOD thing.

I'm not qualified to say whether or not his writing is good but he is much more sparing with imagery than most fantasy writers. His dialogue is pretty good too, nice and terse, but every so often characters have philosophical discussions in the middle of some mundane activity. Some anon a while back pointed out that modern genre fiction is just a vehicle for authors to educate a captive audience to their personal beliefs. I think this is honestly true in most cases, but one hundred percent accurate in the case of Erikson. He is here to lecture you on the "human question" first, tell a satisfying narrative second.

[Anonymous No.21493300]

>>21493287
You're wasting your time here trying to discuss books here.

[Anonymous No.21493305]

>>21493287
>YET despite all this, the Malazan Empire are considered the good guys, or at the very least, the majority of characters you are supposed to empathize with are affiliated with the Malazans somehow.
We came, we saw, he died.

[Anonymous No.21493308]

>>21493287
>book 2
I never understood why everybody fellates over Coltaine and the Chain of Dogs, when one of the two best characters within the entire series, Itkovian, was in the same damn book.

[Anonymous No.21493323]

>>21493256
>mother of learning
goat and shilled
>Vainqueur the Dragon
best fantasy satire eva
>dawn of the void
A blend of sci fi and fantasy that doesn't suck?? Fuck yeah!
>defiance of the fall
original cultivation setting, no romance shit, covers epic levels of power
>beware of chicken
Which publishing house would even consider a novel with such a title? Their fucking loss!!
You can't find anything like the above in the bookstores.

[Anonymous No.21493329]

>>21493323
Are you even human?

[Anonymous No.21493328]

>>21493256
Sounds like you should stick with your fanfics, then.

[Anonymous No.21493341]

>>21493300
Even if few people read my schizo ramblings getting them all out at once allows me to move on to the next activity

[Anonymous No.21493350]

who's got the rothfuss pizza guy seethe tweet?
you know of what i speak. post it

[Anonymous No.21493357]

>>21493329
Are you?

[Anonymous No.21493361]

>>21493357
I don't read garbage, so yes.

[Anonymous No.21493371]

>>21488721
it's true, bakker excels at fantasy but he failed at noir. neuropath exemplifies all of his worst qualities as a writer and few of his strengths. the short passage about moenghus' neuropuncture experiments on the skin-spy in the thousand-fold thought say everything that neuropath has to say, in a much more interesting and vastly more compact package.

[Anonymous No.21493377]

>>21493361
Prove it.

[Anonymous No.21493380]

>>21493377
I don't read LitRPG or chinese mtls stories.

[Anonymous No.21493434]

>>21489474
>Reverend Insanity
Made me laugh
Should I get into it?

[Anonymous No.21493445]

>>21493434
Why would you want to read garbage mtl stories?

[Anonymous No.21493454]

>>21493256
Look man , you can't be a fan of fantasy if all you really is like 3 books from 40 years ago. You are just a fan of a few writers.

[Anonymous No.21493469]

>>21493445
They are emblematic of our times without being about transsexuals.

[Anonymous No.21493480]

Is Clark Ashton Smith considered better than Vance?

[Anonymous No.21493481]

>>21493469
Maybe if you only spend your time on /sffg/.

[Anonymous No.21493485]

>>21493287
Hahahaha based af.
Malazan globohomos btfo.

[Anonymous No.21493493]

How old are you, /sffg/?
I turned 43 a few days ago. Feels good ngl.

[Anonymous No.21493495]

>>21493480
depends

[Anonymous No.21493498]

>40 year olds post in /sffg/
no wonder this place sucks

[Anonymous No.21493502]

>>21493493
Please say you’re joking. I would actually kill myself if this is true.

[Anonymous No.21493506]

>>21493502
You're here forever.

[Anonymous No.21493511]

>>21493502
What's so bad about this?I'm not joking.
Where should people go after turning 40? Fucking Goodreads? Kek

[Anonymous No.21493513]

>>21493506
Not really?

[Anonymous No.21493518]

>>21493502
There's a fag that's proud that he wasted like 20 years of his life on this site. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if that other anon is a no-life 40-year-old.

[Anonymous No.21493522]

>>21493498
>>21493502
>zoinks he's le old man
Meanwhile virtually all of sffg's favorite books were written by people that age and up.

[Anonymous No.21493523]

>>21493502
>>21493498
lol , good luck talking about sci-fi with anyone else. Only other people I know that read these thing is my wife and my father. Everyone else talks about MCU or their kids.

[Anonymous No.21493528]

>>21493518
It's not me, I've posted in /sffg/ less than like 50 times. I don't really bother with 4chan except occasionally. Mostly come here looking for recommendations, whether it's books, Vidya, anime, whatever.
Not much else happening here these days. Dead site desu

[Anonymous No.21493531]

>>21493434
Read the first 200 chapters (the first book)

[Anonymous No.21493536]

>>21493493
>43 years old and still posts on 4chan
Tell me what you did wrong so I won’t end up like you?

[Anonymous No.21493537]

>>21493511
Lol this

[Anonymous No.21493546]

>>21493523
>lol , good luck talking about sci-fi with anyone else.
But no one even discusses books here. Objectively speaking, going to another site would be a step up.

[Anonymous No.21493551]

>>21493536
Answer this and I'll tell you
>>21493511

[Anonymous No.21493552]

>>21493522
Notice how writers did things and not spend time on here?

[Anonymous No.21493556]

>>21493552
>if you do anything else than write 100% of your time then you're not a writer
gottem

[Anonymous No.21493562]

>>21493556
This. They're so dumb aren't they. Just one stupid low IQ take after the other.

[Anonymous No.21493569]

>>21493536
>lol guys , I'm just here TEMPORARILY while I get my shit together

sure anon , sure

Personaly I'm here cause /v/ is faster moving than reddit/discord and less moderated . I go off-board from time to time , /tg/ and a bit /lit/ lately.

[Anonymous No.21493570]

>>21493551
Anywhere but here. Now tell me what you did wrong with your life so I can avoid being a sad lonely 40+ person here.

[Anonymous No.21493577]

>>21493570
>Anywhere but here.
Kek try harder. Where specifically. And tell me why it's significantly better than or different to here.

[Anonymous No.21493580]

>>21493556
>gottem
>Off by one
consider pic relared

[Anonymous No.21493590]

>>21493546
I noticed , but people bitching about things is just chan culture. I also tried giving /mu/ a chance. Beleive it or not , they are worse than /lit/ and by a lot.

I'll give this place a few more weeks before fucking off.

[Anonymous No.21493591]

>>21493493
>I turned 43 a few days ago.
That's really sad.

[Anonymous No.21493592]

>>21493552
Except I don't know how much time he spends here compared to literally anything else in his life, and I don't claim to because there's no way to tell. That's something only a retard (like (You)) would do so.

[Anonymous No.21493600]

>>21493590
>I'll give this place a few more weeks before fucking off.
I'll just do it right away. This thread, or the past few threads, aren't the exception, they're the norm. /sffg/ is a terrible place to try and discuss books.

[Anonymous No.21493601]

>>21493493
Happy Birthday, anon! It's never too late.

[Anonymous No.21493605]

>>21493601
Stop posting this bug shit.

[Anonymous No.21493608]

>>21493323
beware of chicken is absolute shit, and its inclusion discredits the rest of your list.

[Anonymous No.21493609]

>>21493591
>The natural process of aging is sad!
Lmao okay, I guess people like you are regressing into childhood so it does fit. Tbh I didn't expect /sffg/ to be this full of seething brainlets but then again /lit/ is known for being very autismal.

[Anonymous No.21493613]

>>21493590
The best sffg discussions happen at /tg/ when there's a tg-lit bread.

[Anonymous No.21493616]

ITT: 2010+ newfags argue with each other
If only there were a forum or another site in which they could engage in this off-topic activity

[Anonymous No.21493617]

>>21493601
Thanks! I guess I finally have to read that now after seeing it spammed all the time huh.

[Anonymous No.21493619]

>>21493609
The natural aging process isn’t sad. Just being a 40 year old on 4chan is

[Anonymous No.21493623]

>>21493605
It's High Literature you stupid pleb

[Anonymous No.21493624]

>>21493619
K. So we're back to
>>21493577
And also
>>21493556
Believe it or not, it's possible to do other things in life both before and after writing a post on a Chinese tranny fetish blogging site.

[Anonymous No.21493645]

>>21493617
Based, don't forget to post a short review on /sffg/ later just to irritate our resident schizo (he hates RI)

[Anonymous No.21493659]

>>21493645
Heh, I'll do that. Seeing him flip like that each time you/the reviewanon posts one is priceless.

[Anonymous No.21493671]

>>21493616
As long as you're not a retard that tries to use /sffg/ to talk about books, it's okay.

[Anonymous No.21493673]

>>21493328
In the unlikely event that I ever get in the mood for that tier of written junk-food, I will. The reason it's marginally better is because the writing style, ideas, and so on are roughly equivalent to those found in LitRPG slop (often it's even the same authors, sometimes not even writing under a different name), but it benefits from recycling universes and characters created by someone who might have actual talent.
>>21493454
"3 books from 40 years ago" is an exaggeration but ok, sure. Is anyone a fan of an entire genre, rather than just good books within said genre? I'd say I'm a fan of fantasy because a fantasy book only needs to be decent for me to be interested, while a book in a genre I don't care about like romance would need to be excellent.

[Anonymous No.21493676]

>Anglo-mutt posting hours begin
>quality of thread drops dramatically

[Anonymous No.21493684]

>>21493659
thats not him, he only flips when someone posts anything chinese/xanxia/litrpg/progression

[Anonymous No.21493685]

>>21493619
>he believes the meme that 4chin is used by young people
Somebody tell him.

[Anonymous No.21493687]

>>21493676
You don’t ow that this thread was shit from the start, right?

[Anonymous No.21493690]

>>21493371
Ok, I will trust you and read second apocalypse. Neuropath really annoyed me so I hope you haven't bamboozled me once again!

[Anonymous No.21493698]

>>21493676
The quality of this thread, and previous threads, have been shit no matter the time.

[Anonymous No.21493709]

>>21493698
I went for a short walk outside for 30 minutes and when I come back there's 70 new messages, most of them screeching about 40 year old man in 4chan although most people in 4chan are at least 30.

[Anonymous No.21493716]

>>21493698
There hasn't been a good /sffg/ thread in about 3 years. No substantial book discussion, no original content, just increasingly tired memes and shitty bait.

[Anonymous No.21493717]

>>21493676
why do you say that? It's the middle of the day in most of muttland .

[Anonymous No.21493718]

>>21493709
How does that refute what I said?

[Anonymous No.21493719]

>>21493717
Saturday

[Anonymous No.21493732]

>>21493690
the second apocalypse is written in a very biblical and grandiose manner so as to genuinely feels like it comes from a world that is completely alien to modern times, mores and sensibilities. bakker is an autistic alien himself so he is perfectly suited for this kind of writing. when he tries to write normal characters in a mundane modern world, he falls flat on his face and comes off as a low-grade genre hack. TSA is really something else though.

[Anonymous No.21493733]

>>21493716
>No substantial book discussion
Why would you even come here for book discussion when there's better book forums for it?

[Anonymous No.21493748]

>>21493709
Nice. I went jogging earlier on and when I got back there was only screeching like no one discusses books, why are you jere if you want to discuss books, you was time here, this place sucks etc

I don't understand why is this autist still here if he hates /sffg/ and 4chan culture so much.

[Anonymous No.21493749]

>>21493733
>better book forums for it?
I swear people are just trolling at this point.

[Anonymous No.21493757]

>>21493733
>forums

[Anonymous No.21493770]

>>21493733
Once upon a time there was occasionally decent book discussion here, and tastes aligned more with my own here than elsewhere. /sffg/ was especially good for vetting female authors who get praised elsewhere—if she was liked by a decent amount of people even here, she's probably pretty good and not just politically motivated flavor of the month.

Since then? Force of habit. I don't think there are better book forums, honestly. This was the only good one and now it's a useless shell of what it was. I'd rather just give up on online book discussion than go somewhere where people gush over Sanderson, Hobb, etc.

[Anonymous No.21493784]

>>21493749
You look at this thread and the last few threads and tell me it isn’t a waste of time here.

[Anonymous No.21493841]

>>21493770
>Once upon a time
I assume that was a rather long time ago, right? so have you been here all this time since the general/board culture changed? For what reason? Who don't you just move on "to the better forums" ?

[Anonymous No.21493918]

>>21493733
>forums

[Anonymous No.21493935]

>>21493784
The best doesn't mean good really, just better than alternatives. Space battles is decent afaik but it's more of a niche but I honestly can't tell you where to go otherwise, reddit is a joke cause well, it's reddit. Goodreads gets criticized often enough for being wine mom central, honestly reviews are the only part of it that I find remotely useful. Royal road/NovUpdate might be decent for webnovels and such, but not genre in general. Don't do much in a way of discussion myself but when I think of a place to just go check out what some randoms think about a book or two 4chan, despite all it's flaws, is the first think I think of, perhaps I just find anonymity and it's lack of laurels convenient.

[Anonymous No.21493962]

>>21493784
To add to my last response, I spent a fair bit of my time on 4chan in the past in a small corner thread of /vg/ called /gsg/. I humbly assure you the local shitshow doesn't hold the candle to that one and the skill to handle having an actual useful discussion in the midst of such festivities is one I think most people who spend few years on 4chan develop sooner or later.

Usually if there isn't one going on parallel to shitshow there's just nothing to discuss, it's bad hours, or people simply bailed. That comes and goes but if someone actually wanted to discuss some topic in particular I'd bet you find a guy or two to talk it over with here most of the time.

[Anonymous No.21493964]

WARNING: Page 8
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[Anonymous No.21493977]

>>21493964
Let's see how long we can go without a new one.

[Anonymous No.21493982]

>>21493962
This general hasn’t been able to discuss books for over a year now.

[Anonymous No.21493992]

>>21493982
Within last few months I've been here a dozen or so times sometimes just browsing, but mostly coming to talks over a book/webnovel I read and/or ask for recs, when i did I got useful responses about two out of tree times.

[Anonymous No.21494037]

>>21493716
Why do we even have this general.

[Anonymous No.21494067]

>>21492154
Yeah I guess I meant there was so much potential and it was quite a cool idea so I assumed it would be amazing, and there were some cool ideas in it but like all fantasy there is a huge world but the characters just walk a narrow path through it

[Anonymous No.21494072]

>>21493493
Turned 33 back on monday. Anyone read picrel? Seems like a few people here like litrpg stuff, so I'd like to hear what anyones opinion on it is. Eventually plan on reading it

[Anonymous No.21494078]

>>21493977
we can go right to limit, people find us in the catalog

[Anonymous No.21494169]

>>21493770
>This was the only good one
This place was never good.

[Anonymous No.21494177]

>>21493770
>>21493982
>>21494037
Classic case of Stockholm syndrome

>Stockholm syndrome is a coping mechanism to a captive or abusive situation. People develop positive feelings toward their captors or abusers over time.
It seems these anons have been abused by King Bakker, litprg, chinese xanxia and progression posters, and instead of leaving this unkind general, they have developed a coping mechanism. They have developed positive feelings towards this general and the abuse they receive here.

[Anonymous No.21494231]

>>21493841
A long time ago yes. Not consistently, but I come back off and on because hope springs eternal. I addressed why I don't go "to better forums" in the post you replied to—they do not exist.

[Anonymous No.21494238]

>>21494231
>they do not exist.
They do, you're just not looking for them.

[Anonymous No.21494243]

>>21494238
Name one. Every book discussion place online I have found is reddit tier and has redditor taste.

[Anonymous No.21494292]

>>21494243
Online Book Club for one

[Anonymous No.21494294]

>>21494243
Probably helps if you stop viewing the world in such a dumb way.

[Anonymous No.21494306]

>>21494294
He is right though.

[Anonymous No.21494308]

>>21494306
Maybe if you spend all you time terminally online.

[Anonymous No.21494348]

>>21494308
It's because I spend all my free time online. I have gained experience and knowedge, I have visited every book discussion forum on the internet and found each one of them to be reddit tier. I have spent years doing this so that newfags like you won't have to. You should thank me.

[Anonymous No.21494353]

>>21494348
If you think so, viewing the world in such dumb terms is unhealthy, not to mention unrealistic.

[Anonymous No.21494358]

>>21494348
Imagine if there was internet in the golden age of sci fi and we could go through their old forums

[Anonymous No.21494452]

>>21492149
yeah I downloaded the whole series as one epub from libgen

[Anonymous No.21494514]

>>21494509
>>21494509
>>21494509
new

[Anonymous No.21494521]

>>21494514
Thread already started poorly.

[Anonymous No.21494541]

>>21494452
this one?
cool, i will now read

[Anonymous No.21494575]

>>21494514
Isn't the bump limit here 500?

[Anonymous No.21494584]

>>21494575
No, its like 310 or 320.