/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.21410736]

Is he overrated?

[Anonymous No.21410758]

>>21410736
Honestly yes. Half is stories are the same, about his fear of being burried alive. I've heard his poetry is good but i can't confirm it.
Lovecraft is miles better when it comes to horror.

[Anonymous No.21410807]

>>21410736
Stylistically he's on Melville's level or even better but his stories are just "woe is me oh spook twist ending". I don't know. I'd even go as far as to say he's the best prose writer that the English language ever had which does get him a spot with the greats, he birthed the mystery novel and wrote some of the first sci-fi stories ever. He's /lit/'s equivalent of Hitchcock - technically groundbreaking and influential but when you dig below the surface the substance just isn't there. One thing I know is that The Raven rightfully deserves its spot as one of the greatest poems in English ever.

[Anonymous No.21410815]

>>21410736
No, not even by stans like Baudelaire Context is everything.

[Anonymous No.21410818]

>>21410736
He's properly rated.

[Anonymous No.21411767]

>>21410807
this

[Anonymous No.21411778]

>>21410736
I honestly don't get the appeal. Maybe he's better in French?

[Anonymous No.21411800]

>>21410736
All how highly do you rate him, anon?
>>21410758
Lovecraft is unironically one of the most overrated 20th century US authors. He's not bad, but massively overrated

[Anonymous No.21412742]

Wednesday

[Anonymous No.21412907]

>>21410736
That's ironic... Poe is neither Holy nor Roman nor an Empire... But he is the quintessential thinker, and that's why he's so often in the center of the great literary men of history. God help us all if we ever manage to understand what precisely he was trying to tell us about life.

[Anonymous No.21413026]

>>21410736
He had maybe the best technical command of the English language I've seen, or damn near it.

[Anonymous No.21413107]

Is he fuck. OP you should feel disappointed, how can you consider yourself an eco-goth now?

[Anonymous No.21413109]

>>21413107
Woops forgot the old picture

[Anonymous No.21413110]

Of the three great american romanticists only Poe is still widely read by the average reader
Melville is still read, but people focus on Moby-Dick alone, and if we go by the comments I've seen online, they're likely to drop it before making it halfway in.
Hawthorne is only still read because some US schools make students read parts of the Scarlet Letter and maybe a couple of stories like the minister's black veil and rappaccini’s daughter.
Poe is the only author of the three who people pick up of their own accord -not from a half-hearted impulse to read a classic title like Moby Dick or forced by a school assignement-.

[Anonymous No.21413117]

>>21413110
Bartleby the scrivener goes hard no cap

[Anonymous No.21413236]

>>21410807
>but his stories are just "woe is me oh spook twist ending".
That was his thing though. He felt the purpose of art was to reveal a Platonic ideal. A story was meant to perfectly capture one tone or mood, be that horror, regret, youthful love, or whatever. That's why he preferred short stories over other forms. Writing the Pit and the Pendulum as a seven hundred page novel just wouldn't work; instead of growing dread, the reader would just feel fatigue and relief at the ending.

Criticizing his stories for lack of substance is like criticizing a Japanese haiku for its simplicity.

[Anonymous No.21413249]

>>21413117
literally me fr fr

[Anonymous No.21413251]

>>21411800
>Lovecraft is unironically one of the most overrated 20th century US authors. He's not bad, but massively overrated
He's a weird case. I would say he was a second rate writer but a genius dreamer.

His purple prose is less offensive because it matches the subject matter so well. 'Congeries of luminescent orbs' is grotesque, but if he described the same as 'a bunch of glowing balls' it wouldn't be spooky at all.

[Anonymous No.21413260]

>>21410736
Poe is arguably the most popular and beloved American English poet of all time. Considering the quality of his work, he’s pretty fairly rated

[Anonymous No.21413279]

>>21410736
I read this last year, his only published novel. Most people don't start here, but they should. Most people try to start at his poems or short stories, they may been forced to read some of them in middle and high school, but it's really his only finished novel that shows he had talent that went wasted. He's amazing. He's ahead of Jules Verne and Melville, and they are totally inspired by him. It actually got me into nautical books. I'm reading Moby Dick now, and was too intimidated to do that, until I read this. Read "The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket" if you really want to get to know Poe. Everything else is too small or is some kind of commentary of what was going on in his era without context. You won't get where he is coming from unless you read this.

[Anonymous No.21413321]

>>21410736
Yes. Using archaic words for the hell of it is fucking insanely pretentious.
That being said, The Cask of Amontillado is his best story, not The Raven.

[Anonymous No.21414766]

>>21410736
Can't spell poem without Poe.

[Anonymous No.21414804]

>>21410736
As a gothic writer? No, he was brilliant. As pretty much everything else? Yes, he was mediocre at best. His science fiction was awful, his comedies read like bad parodies of Wilde's work and his only novel is an inconsistent mess.

[Anonymous No.21414822]

>>21411800
He's an horror writer and the best out of the bunch. Doesn't mean he holds a candle to Faulkner or Joyce.

[Anonymous No.21414835]

>>21413321
>Yes. Using archaic words for the hell of it is fucking insanely pretentious.
Huh?

[Anonymous No.21414852]

His poetry is extremely overrated. His prose is still perhaps a bit overrated but significantly less so. He has a few wonderful stories.

[Anonymous No.21415215]

>>21410807
>>21413236
>>21413279
Yes

[Anonymous No.21415242]

>>21410736
NOT AT ALL, HE'S A GIANT. I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD TO DISREGARD OP, TO NOT LET THEM DELAY YOUR READING OF HIS COMPLETE WORKS, AT LEAST THE SHORT STORIES, ANY FURTHER.

[Anonymous No.21415349]

>tfw Poe is actually hilarious

https://poestories.com/read/mummy

[Student No.21415375]

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[Anonymous No.21415670]

>>21414766
You also can't spell advertisements without semen between the tits.

[Anonymous No.21415684]

>>21411778
His poetry only makes sense when recited with a garish Boston accent.

[Anonymous No.21415687]

>>21414804
Wait, he wrote science fiction?

[Anonymous No.21415700]

>>21410736
Dude TOTALLY OVERRATED NOT UNDERRATED LIKE MY SECRET AUTHORS

[Anonymous No.21415714]

>>21410736
Maybe overrated in the century that he wrote in, however since no one reads anymore, that makes EVERY author underrated

[Anonymous No.21415722]

Is it true that he never had sex with his cousinfu and she died a virgin?

[Anonymous No.21415741]

>>21415687
He did. "The Unparalleled Adventures of One Hans Pfall" is dull as fuck.