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21397936 No.21397936 [Reply] [Original]

What’s the point of reading a book that doesn’t make sense? No one talks like that anymore

>> No.21397950

Because it makes you seem interesting

>> No.21397958

Nobody talked like Shakespeare characters back in the 16th century either. The type of "speech" used in Shakespeare plays was an odd mixture of English, words liberally borrowed or coined from French and Latin roots, references to the Bible, classical literature, and history, and various obscure pieces of late mediaeval/early modern English folklore and common knowledge. Most of the people who went to the theatre had no idea about much of what they were hearing. They just enjoyed the fencing, cross-dressing men, cunt jokes.

>> No.21397988

>>21397958
No

>> No.21398096

>>21397936
The point is that it's one of the deepest experiences that literature and art in general can give you. Just get copies with footnotes. Trust me, it's worth it!

>> No.21398624

If Shakespeare doesn't make sense to you, that is the evidence you need to read it. Continue to struggle with it, like a hatchling emerging from an egg, and someday you will wonder how you ever struggled with it. Or, y'know, don't, if you'd rather not improve.

>> No.21398626

>>21397958
You're a complete moron, and an obvious subvert. Go back to your subterranean tunnels!

>> No.21398666

>>21397936
They do make sense if you get used to the style and look up a few words you don't know.

>> No.21398675

>>21397936
No one talks like the Bible either, I guess e should just throw that out as well.

>> No.21398709

>>21397936
Common andrew tate w

>> No.21398787

Why would you want to copy normal conversation?

>> No.21398826

>>21397988
>>21398626
>itt: bardolaters who know nothing about the bard

>>21397958
is correct. shakespeare wrote poetry, anons. do you seriously think the average english man knew what "making the multitudinous seas incarnadine" meant? of course not. ever wondered why there's so much bawdy humor in the bard? it's to appease the groundlings, who comprised most of shakespeare's paying audience. hell the average brit couldn't fucking read.

>> No.21399419

>>21398826
>shallow pervert superimposing his perversity onto the past
S U B V E R T

>> No.21400138

Don't understand this thread at all.
His works include both verse as well as actual prose, see the Duke switching when speaking of foreign matters to Othello/Brabantio, where necessary in order to convey social standing or importance of the information to a specific character/the overall significance of the text and world therein.
A significant reason for the syntax being, in your words, "nonsensical" is demand for meter. That too includes usage of synonyms not used in normal speech back then as English in all its brilliance has plenty of those on offer, thus allowing the writer to exchange multi syllable words that would disturb the meter for another. Same goes for stuff like [i'th']. Might be horribly wrong on this but I doubt anyone ever used this extensively in everyday speech so it primarily exists so as to not disturb the meter Shakespeare went for "At nine i'th' the morning here we'll meet again".
This is probably different depending on what version of what ever text it is you are reading. Editors are basically in a prolonged eternal deathmatch over what fits best so, if OP is actually serious and this isn't bait I'm dumb enough to reply to, if you're unable to grasp specific things then don't worry so much as the "experts and academia" are constantly at another's throats and basically everyone has different thoughts and opinions on what the fuck Shakespeare was on about.

>> No.21400536

Try Chaucer for a lighter read : )

>> No.21401886

>>21398787
"Art is imitation" - Aristotle