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[Anonymous No.21250517]

Riverside Bazaar Edition

Previous Thread:>>21241657

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[Anonymous No.21250529]

First post for Gardner. Would anyone recommend his other fictional works?

[Anonymous No.21250535]

IM GOING TO POST IT AGAIN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.21250572]

>>21250517
>>21250529
>>21250535
sneed
bakker

[Anonymous No.21250648]

Where do you heathens discuss books that isn't here?

[Anonymous No.21250652]

I hate how /lit/ has been a fucking shithole for 12 straight years. Or is it 11?

[Anonymous No.21250654]

>>21250652
Sell me on this book.

[Anonymous No.21250674]

>>21250648
I don't

[Anonymous No.21250695]

>>21250652
>>21250648
>>21243426
>>21236602

Here, use this next time so we can save three posts each thread.

[Anonymous No.21250698]

>>21250695
I only promote the bottom two. I have no affiliation with Cradle or RI.

[Anonymous No.21250702]

>>21250698

[Anonymous No.21250704]

What do you guys think of Hyperion

[Anonymous No.21250709]

>>21250702
>would have to edit the promotional space out myself
Pass. I suppose I'll continue irregularly posting both images, in the hopes that I may discuss books with posters someday.

[Anonymous No.21250710]

Does /sffg/ like Terry Dowling?

[Anonymous No.21250713]

>>21250709
Have you ever encountered anyone who has read them?

[Anonymous No.21250721]

>>21250713
I encounter few people in this thread who read anything outside of the same fifteen safe space authors or series, and that has been the status quo for the majority of /lit/'s lifespan. No, those are not the only books I post about.

[Anonymous No.21250759]

>>21250517
>>21250529
>>21250535
>>21250572
>>21250648
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>>21250654
>>21250674
>>21250695
>>21250698
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>>21250710
>>21250713
>>21250721
Bakker mogs all of these.

[Anonymous No.21250767]

>>21250704
First book has lots of interesting stories. Varied, emotion, powerful. Second book has a kind of space opera, and an ending I thought packed a good thematic argument against cultural hegemony. Although the second book is strange with its new dream narrator, and many of the sequences involved the earlier characters are too short, I still think it had unity and a fitting conclusion.

[Anonymous No.21250822]

>>21250759
>Bakker mogs all of these.

[Anonymous No.21251062]

>>21249633
>His mother is incompetent too.
His mom is the only reason he got a fruit, which just so happens to be why he can competently use the open palm, which just so happens to be why he fights the exhibition match, and is literally the only person in the clan that anticipates and even attempts to do something about the Markuth summoning. The dad gives him one minor piece of advice and then ignores his death and even walks out on them in the prophesy.
>b-but the bad luck in telling your kid what path to want
Her being a rationalist that's above clan superstitions, just like her being harsh is a practical consequence of having to take over the parenting duties of his useless dad. Her "flaws" aren't real flaws, unlike nearly every male character in the book that is spiteful, selfish, naive, and so on. Mom, Sister, Phoenix, and Sword girl are all sues that suffer from limitations, not flaws. MC asspulls so often it's not even funny. The antagonists have zero redeeming qualities. Overall the conflicts are utterly braindead as a consequence.
>Incorrect, there are no major antagonists introduced in the first book except the Wandering Titan. Every antagonist in the first book is an insect.
Antagonists are not defined by powerlevelfaggotry, the wandering titan is barely present in the book and does not directly interact with the protagonist a single time. (No being told he's going to kill you in 20 years is not a direct interaction.) He's not even named. The people that directly impede MC's path to his goal are the antagonists of the book Unsouled, and you regarding them as nobodies simply adds to them being shit characters and a waste of time.
>There was no apocalypse
A demon that's more powerful than the realm can resist appearing to kill everyone you know and claim it as his domain is an apocalypse scenario. It even took divine intervention to thwart it. This refers primarily to Markuth, but the prophesy is essentially another apocalypse scenario. Sure the series will just recontextualize them as some mere nascent grade entity bullying some puny mortals in xianxia fashion, but in terms of book 1's plot, Markuth was an apocalypse event and the vision was an apocalyptic prophesy, hence them coming at the same time and the same divine source affecting both.
>Master Whisper and all his "filler" is relevant later in the series.
He told MC to bee urself and that there's a big world out there, then expressed blatant yet conveniently vague foreshadowing. Yes, he's clearly putting up plot flags, his part was also hilariously shallow. He didn't even get mentioned during the Markuth attack.

tl;dr The book is YA schlock with a california spin to it. I don't really care if you claim it recontextualizes in later books because the fact of the matter is that what I'm reading to get there is still YA schlock.

[Anonymous No.21251103]

>>21251062
based and cradle-is-shit-pilled.

[Anonymous No.21251109]

Thoughts on the Ringworld series?

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.21251183]

>>21250517
The Bands of Mourning, Wax & Wayne #3/Mistborn #6 - Brandon Sanderson (2016)

The Bands of Mourning is a cinematic action-adventure inspired by Wild West movies and Indiana Jones's Raiders of the Lost Ark. It's often completely ridiculous, but also a lot of fun, which is fortunate because it's lacking in most other ways. There are a lot of changes from the previous books and more from the Cosmere is introduced. At least three characters from three different systems directly interact with the Scadrian characters. The statements of advancement requiring hardship mentioned in the previous book are demonstrated in the form of a separate Scadrian civilization with more advanced technology. If this is meant to be foreshadowing what Mistborn Era 3 will be like, then it's rather neat and cool. Another change is that Sanderson's humor was mildly amusing at times rather than mostly groanworthy.

While this is primarily a book about action and adventure, there are also brief scenes discussing topics such as oppression, worker's rights, revolution, civil war, federalism, trade logistics, tax policy, water rights, and how out of touch the wealthy urban elites are with the common people. They seem to serve as intermissions between action pieces rather than having much bearing on the narrative. Maybe something more will be done with them in the final book.

This book was also overtly religious to where I think I may have simply forgotten how relatively more religious the Mistborn series is versus his other works. I don't recall if there's a term for this, but Sanderson's approach to religion, especially in this book, is to meet people where they're at and acknowledge their criticisms and concerns of religion as valid. There's also some mild condemnation of separatist religious communities being unable or unwilling to properly police themselves. However, despite all that, by the end it proposes that regardless of whatever flaws we believe there to be, and regardless of our lack of understanding of God's greater purpose, we must accept him and have faith in his goodness.

Given what happened in the previous book I thought that the protagonist would be broody for the entire book, but that wasn't the case, which was a relief. His wife really came to the fore this time, which made for an exemplary depiction of a high-functioning autistic woman. A dark-skinned woman is presented as extremely knowledgeable, comparable to anyone in the Cosmere, according to Sanderson. There's a character who doesn't mind crossdressing for disguises. A lesbian is told her that her sexual preferences are valid and that it was wrong for the male character to pursue her affections. There's even what seems to be intended as a trans acceptance scene. Then there's the interspecies love scene between a human and non-human. Sanderson really went for inclusivity with this book.

Rating: 3.5/5

[Anonymous No.21251197]

>>21251183
>A dark-skinned woman is presented as extremely knowledgeable, comparable to anyone in the Cosmere, according to Sanderson
That's Khriss, yeah? She's been around for ages anyway. Her and some guy whose name I forget are who essentially 'put the stories together' in-universe.

[Anonymous No.21251209]

>>21251183
I read this book and I don't recall so much of it. Specific bits of the previous two Wax and Wayne books stuck with me well enough, I don't really recall anything about this one besides the ending so the inclusivity stuff doesn't ring a bell with me at all. I did remember Wax's wife finally just becoming a character, which was nice, but it felt like a book that should've just been the last one and wasn't.

[Anonymous No.21251245]

>>21250713
I remember Radix being talked quite a bit over here a few years ago

[Anonymous No.21251264]

>>21251197
Nazh.

[Anonymous No.21251277]

>>21251264
Yeah, him. There's too many damn characters, I have trouble with names as-is. I tend to remember characters more often by who they are, not necessarily names. It's actually kind of weird how some books I can remember characters relatively in-depth but I can't remember a single name.

[Anonymous No.21251282]

>>21251209
>dark-skinned woman
he's referring to Khriss, who's from nightside on Taldain. Honestly don't know why he brought her up.
>crossdressing
Wayne, duh.
>Lesbian
Ranette. Wayne eventually is told off after three books to stop making advances on her cause she's in a lesbian relationship now.
>trans
I don't know what they're talking about here. But it has been ~6 months since I last read it
>human and non-human
Wayne sexing up Melaan, the kandra.

[Anonymous No.21251352]

>>21251197
Yes, the Ars Arcanum at the end.

>>21251209
Well, Set hasn't been fully addressed, especially its non-human leaders.

>>21251282
I didn't refer by name intentionally. I added Khriss at the last moment for even more inclusivity. I brought her up because she talks to Wax in a rather silly way. Ranette has been in relationship with a woman for many years. The trans scene I mean is the kandra taking on a male form and Wayne saying that changes nothing about the relationship because they're the same person. What I wrote wasn't meant to be a puzzle to be solved.

[Anonymous No.21251370]

What would have happened if Kelsier had used his plot armor to gank Khriss and Nazh haha

[Anonymous No.21251399]

>>21250652
Everywhere is a shithole. Be the positive change you want to see in this world and post something meaningful.

[Anonymous No.21251496]

"New York Times bestseller" is such a buzzword

[Anonymous No.21251504]

>The seasons thing. The Spring’s Warden was next. She was slimmer, and Rabbiteater thought she was very pretty.
>Oh, she looked like she was in her thirties despite being twenty years older, which apparently was because she was the embodiment of the spring.

I swear Pirate has a thing for these kind of women. Not that I'm complaining.

[Anonymous No.21251532]

>>21251496
In that it's nothing more than a marketing tactic, yes. It doesn't measure how well books sell.

[Anonymous No.21251548]

>>21251496
Tradpub has always been cancer.

[Anonymous No.21251565]

>>21251282
Oh, right. I more viewed the stuff with Wayne and Ranette as him actually moving on to a proper relationship, he basically always knew it wasn't a real thing regardless of her being lesbian or whatever.

[Anonymous No.21251662]

read cradle

[Anonymous No.21251692]

>>21251662
>>21250695
This had already been posted here. It is fine but please be more careful next time.

[Anonymous No.21251710]

Fucking americans I swear

[Anonymous No.21251739]

>>21251710
Then they wonder why no one reads their shit.
I already don't want romance books in my fantasy, but you add faggots and YA shit to it too? A triple threat of shit for me to avoid.

[Anonymous No.21251773]

>>21250704
I think the first book was really well done. Twists and turns, flawed and struggling characters, mystery. Just keep away from the rest. The second is still bearable, but the direction it takes is really getting overly silly.

[Anonymous No.21251788]

>>21251183

Weren't the shapeshifters - Kandra or something - gender neutral since the original trillogy? Sexless races are pretty common in fantasy, or at least used to be before the recent way of progressivism made the topic much hotter than before. I wouldn't see trans themes there, not quite the same thing, though you could say it's adjacent. Cross-dressing is also hard to perceive as real cross-dressing, it's been used for ages in fiction in form of comedy or practical disguise.

It's not an attack on you or anything, just in case. It's just weird to me that someone could perceive common literary themes through modern lens and claim Sanderson is 'inclusive' or anything. If you read his interviews, he seems to be a very anxious person toing the line between his faith and modern sensibilities, not quite agreeing with the mainstream, but too smart to buy into the religious dogma. Just a normal, intelligent nerd in his 40s.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if he was pushed into some progressive elements in his writing, the scene about one of minor character in the third Stormlight Archive book being guy was downright atrocious, so much it made me believe Sanderson was forced to write it. Maybe it was just him being a bad writer, though.

Damn, I have problem with recalling almost anything from The Band of Mourning. Usually my book memory is excellent, but this book makes me drawing blanks. I guess I didn't like it too much if it's that forgettable.

The guy in the vision at the end was Kelsier from the original trillogy, right?

[Anonymous No.21251947]

>>21251788
That's why I provided the qualifications. They're all token gestures aside from the autism. I was being at least somewhat sarcastic with the ending line, but I suppose that didn't come across as I intended.

As for the gay guy in the third Stormlight book, I thought that was amusing so I posted the excerpt in the thread because I knew the sort of reaction it would get. That's really what that that entire last paragraph is about, poking fun at those who'd get overexcited about it either way.

About the ending, yeah.

[Anonymous No.21251972]

>>21251947
The gay guy in Stormlight is apparently (along with a lot of the minor Bridge Four guys) based on a friend of Sanderson's anyway. A lot of his 'inclusivity' stuff is always very minor and token and just kind of on side-characters who rarely get brought up again. The most inclusive he's been is making Kaladin not white.

[Anonymous No.21251992]

>>21251972
Aside from religion I think he does that with almost everything. Which I suppose is a way not offend almost anyone while also appeasing those who become giddy over its slightest presence.

[Anonymous No.21252017]

>>21250704
The Ousters did nothing wrong.

[Anonymous No.21252086]

I don’t usually read fantasy, but I just finished the Second Apocalypse series after a friend recommended it to me. What other authors in the genre are able to capture the same imagination and talent that was surprisingly fresh from R. Scott Bakker? Only thing I’ve read that’s probably worth mentioning was the Lord of the Rings and Dune. Don’t know much else about the genre. Please no YA or cape-shit. Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.21252108]

>>21252086
>Bakkerfag trying to false flag

[Anonymous No.21252113]

>>21250652
>>21250648
>>21250695
I will literally never touch any of those.

[Anonymous No.21252203]

Neat

[Anonymous No.21252219]

>>21252203
Truly the MCU of fantasy.

[Anonymous No.21252229]

>>21252203
15 things on that list aren't even out yet.

[Anonymous No.21252232]

>>21252203
I wasn’t aware that posting scat was allowed on this board.

[Anonymous No.21252238]

>>21252203
>chronological order anything
If you're reading it out of release order, you're reading it wrong. What the fuck is wrong with people.

[Anonymous No.21252252]

>>21250695
Anon, how could you forget...

[Anonymous No.21252300]

>>21252203
What happened to the Cosmere encyclopedia thing that was supposed to have conversion rates of Investiture and a canon chronology?

[Anonymous No.21252302]

First for women authors are actually bases.

[Anonymous No.21252314]

>>21252302
Is it good? Also, the first thing I could think of when seeing the covers was Dogpill and that video of a woman kissing wolves mouth-on-mouth.

I Intend to do my own women authors read, dozen or so books. Would be glad for some recommendations, if you have them.

[Anonymous No.21252325]

>>21252300
I didn't know that it was a thing, so I wouldn't know. Maybe someone else does.

[Anonymous No.21252339]

>>21252314
nta
There's some recs in the mega.
When/if you ever get around to doing so, post about it and I'll provide some recs relevant to what you want. It's not worth the effort otherwise.

[Anonymous No.21252345]

>>21252314
>the first thing I could think of when seeing the covers was Dogpill and that video of a woman kissing wolves mouth-on-mouth.
this is a problem with you, not the books. disgusting

[Anonymous No.21252375]

>>21252238
Autistics usually miss the obvious while obsessing over minutia nobody cares about. If you stop to think about it the people reading these books as they came out didn't have a choice about read order and would have no way of anticipating the "correct" order, but such realities are irrelevant to the autist who believes everything must be correctly ordered to make sense.

[Anonymous No.21252383]

>>21252302
I actually have a small collection of female author fantasy novels that I enjoy. Naturally nobody on /sffg/ ever talks about them, no matter how many times I try to bring them up.

[Anonymous No.21252392]

>>21252383
Why are you on /sffg/ to talk about book? Go to places that actually talks about book, retard.

[Anonymous No.21252401]

Anyone get the ebook of Lost Metal early? I've seen a lot of people posting physical copies that break street date.

[Anonymous No.21252404]

>>21252401
No, and stop asking every thread already.

[Anonymous No.21252405]

>>21251496
Has pretty much never been a good indicator of quality. If they feel the need to print it on the cover of a book I can only conclude the contents aren't good enough to sell it.

[Anonymous No.21252412]

>>21252383
Post your list then.

[Anonymous No.21252413]

>>21252383
I liked the CJ Cherryh book I read, I might read another one soon.

[Anonymous No.21252414]

>>21252314
>Is it good?
Yes, specially if you like magical beasts/familiars. It's very character driven (except book 3 which has a more epic fantasy feel)
>Would be glad for some recommendations, if you have them
Robin Hobb, Lois McMaster Bujold, Melanie Rawn, Sara Douglass, Barbara Hambly, C.J Cherry, Carol Berg, Freda Warrington, Kate Elliot, Katharine Kerr, Mercedes Lackey Mickey Zucker Reichert, and Elizabeth Moon.
All of these are above average and wrote pretty good fantasy series.
>Inb4 they are shit and bakker beats them all

[Anonymous No.21252426]

>>21252412
Black Magician Trilogy by Trudi Canavan
Godspeaker trilogy by Karen Miller
Kingmaker, Kingbreaker (duology) by Karen Miller
Earthsea cycle by Ursula K. Le Guin (this is the only one that even gets a little discussion here)
Exiles by Melanie Rawn (planned trilogy, never finished sadly, only 2 books)
Daughter of the Empire trilogy by Janny Wurts (co-authored with Raymond E. Feist in whose setting the story is)

A small collection, like I said. I've read a few other novels I'm more ambivalent about. Trudi Canavan is quite prolific for example but I don't really care for the other novels set in her Black Magician setting, and Millennium's Rule is far less appealing.

[Anonymous No.21252433]

>>21250648
Reddit, book club in libraries, fan websites of book series, etc, don’t know why you’re coming here for discussion, seems really stupid thing to do.

[Anonymous No.21252457]

>>21250648
Mostly with family and friends. My brother finally got into fantasy novels in his mid 20s and I can talk with him about a few of my favorite authors. He's too busy anymore to read much, unfortunately. I also have a couple friends who read fantasy and can hold a good conversation about a few authors, but neither of them reads as much as I do and they have a smaller repertoire of novels to talk about.

[Anonymous No.21252469]

>>21252433
Anything is better than Reddit.

[Anonymous No.21252473]

>>21252426
While the Magician book is enjoyable it's amusing that the Daughter of the Empire trilogy is fantastic and better than anything Feist did solo.

If you have any interest in fantasy then you really need to check out Tanith Lee.

[Anonymous No.21252484]

>>21252404
I literally just got here, stay salty bitch.

[Anonymous No.21252528]

>>21252414
They aren't shit but Bakker still beats then all. No shame in losing to the king.

[Anonymous No.21252541]

>>21252469
This site is much worse than Reddit.
Besides the /pol/faggotry, I have been posting hundreds of Reddit comments on books on /lit/ and no one even noticed besides one instance, meaning this site is basically Reddit with the n-word minus the ability to stay on topic if you wanted to
Before you ask why I’m even here, I’m gaslighting people into extremist views for fun

[Anonymous No.21252548]

>>21252541
Stop shitting up /sffg/ and just fuck off already.

[Anonymous No.21252559]

>>21252548
Oh i usually don’t shitpost in /sffg/ as I have an honest interest in xianxia novels, I also plan to get into sci fi in the near future once I’ve finished the 2250 chapters of martial world

[Anonymous No.21252627]

21252541
>pro-reddit
>/pol/boogeyman
>gaslighting
An hero, 2016+ newfag. Don't @ me with your witty retort after you google what that term means.

[Anonymous No.21252653]

>>21252541
>this site is basically Reddit with the n-word minus the ability to stay on topic
As someone who stayed here far too long and avoided reddit because lolhivemindamiritefellowmentlegen;) before getting tired of the same dozen threads in every board and migrtaing, this is one of the most accurate statements I've ever read.

[Anonymous No.21252677]

>>21250704
Pretty good. Some of the best prose in genre fiction, some unique ideas, interesting story.

First book is great and the second is still pretty good.

The third and fourth books aren't terrible like everyone says, they're just a considerable step down.

His idea for post-humans semi-gods re-enacting the Iliad on Mars was a cool idea (Ilium is the name of the book), but that is way more of a trainwreck ending then Hyperion.

[Anonymous No.21252696]

What to start reading? Riftwar or The Farseer?

[Anonymous No.21252723]

>>21252696
Riftwar if you want cool flashy finalfantasy-tier fights
Farseer if you have depression and like to feel identified with suicidal protagonists
They are both good tho

[Anonymous No.21252724]

Bakker, you say?
Hello Newfag, welcome to /lit/ and /sffg/.

Chances are that you‘ve seen the name Bakker thrown around this place quite a lot. Fear not, this is what you need to know:

First off, I would generally advise against reading him early on, especially if you're new to reading and just migrated from /v/ looking for a Dark Souls type of book. Read other, lighter, stuff first. There is plenty, just don‘t fall into the web-novel meme. Those are atrocious, especially Reverend Insanity, Cradle and the Wandering Inn. You should also know that a lot of people here suffer from PBS(Post Bakker Syndrome). Meaning that once you've read him, it will be hard to find other authors in fantasy as good as he is. Which is why Bakker memes are so prolific here.

Having that said, he is quite literally the most beloved writer in this general, and has been for over a decade, regardless of what filtered (Yes, some people here are unable to truly understand his prose) anons might tell you. And he is, in my humble opinion, the greatest living writer in fantasy right now.

If you enjoy dark fantasy series with intense battles, pitch black lore, highly intellectual themes that dovetail into real world philosophy, poignant character psychology, and just a hint of Lovecraftian horror, then R. Scott Bakker is the author for you. When the time comes, start with The Darkness that Comes Before from the Prince of Nothing trilogy.

[Anonymous No.21252732]

Any good books or webnovels about necromancers?

[Anonymous No.21252736]

>>21252732
Never Die Twice is apparently pretty good. It is a LitRPG, but it's a Maxime Durand thing and that guy tends to do pretty solidly.

[Anonymous No.21252808]

>>21252677
>The third and fourth books aren't terrible like everyone says, they're just a considerable step down.
Is there a better messiah story than the second half of that series as contrived as this theme is in sci-fi and fantasy? It eclipses the Dune series in that regard, which unfortunately was never provided with a definitive resolution. None as satisfying and elevating of the human spirit in any case. A pretty triumphant conclusion imo

[Anonymous No.21252934]

>>21252732
Lois McMaster Bujold's "The Spirit Ring" involves Italian Renaissance era magical guilds regulated by the Roman Catholic Church, and it requires special indulgences and imprimaturs to engage in any type of necromancy, owing to the exclusive claim God has on men's souls. Necromancy is typically regarded as one of the ultimate sins, and has to be carefully regulated via acts of penitence for the Inquisition or else it runs the risk of demonic corruption for everybody remotely exposed to the act.

[Anonymous No.21252946]

>>21252314
>I Intend to do my own women authors read, dozen or so books. Would be glad for some recommendations, if you have them
why would you willingly read garbage?

[Anonymous No.21252953]

>>21252946
You the fag from yesterday who’s in denial about their homosexuality?

[Anonymous No.21252959]

>>21252953
this nigger's in every thread, don't pay attention to him, he's obsessed with telling everyone how much he hates the very idea of women even existing

[Anonymous No.21252963]

>>21252953
No, I don't deny it anymore. After yesterdays meaningful discussion I was finally convinced by resident cucks and homosexuals that I am one of them.

[Anonymous No.21253036]

>>21250822
wtf, worse than sanderson fans

[Anonymous No.21253220]

>>21252302
You just know.

[Anonymous No.21253268]

Honestly, what a superb line to have directed at the protagonist in the very first page of your book.

[Anonymous No.21253279]

>>21253268
Too wordy, but it's probably a woman so it makes sense.

[Anonymous No.21253282]

>>21253268
if I had to guess, the author is chinese or japanese

[Anonymous No.21253283]

>>21253268
are we the baddies?

[Anonymous No.21253299]

>>21253279
It's a woman and it's also the final struggle where the demon that's terrorized the region for presumably centuries is cornered and about to be finished off, so some flamboyance is appropriate.

[Anonymous No.21253307]

>>21253283
Maybe he consensually deflowered her and her family overreacted, forcing him to execute her nine generations in self defense.

[Anonymous No.21253342]

Cover for book I'm writing, what do you think?

[Anonymous No.21253346]

>>21253342
Ask the writing general, you dumb fuck. >>21250373

[Anonymous No.21253348]

>>21253342
I bet the protag is a moralfag.

[Anonymous No.21253358]

>>21253348
Sort of, he's a nihilist at the beginning

[Anonymous No.21253368]

>it's another writingfag using /sffg/ as his personal critique thread
just fucking kill this thread already.

[Anonymous No.21253380]

>>21253368
You deserve to be miserable

[Anonymous No.21253384]

So, I wanna read RI eventually, but I’ve read that it’s good because it subverts genre expectations of xianxia. Thusly, I think it makes sense to start with the very best of regular xianxia, in order to have these expectations in the first place. I’ve read in some forums that coiled dragon as well as renegade immortal are a good start, but I wanted to get the opinion of my good friends here at /sffg/ first. Thanks in advance

[Anonymous No.21253390]

Any other trashlit powerfantasy books like cradle? I bit the bullet and it's a decent guilty pleasure. I can't deal with any system apocalypse stuff though, I hate game themed stuff.

[Anonymous No.21253391]

>>21253384
Against the Gods

[Anonymous No.21253398]

What are some adventure-y type books with a focus on the mc and his adventures exploring a cool world?

[Anonymous No.21253402]

Why are all the gamelit recommendations in the mega erotic porn novels.

[Anonymous No.21253409]

Any fellow Xianxia scholars? I would be grateful if you could share any tip or pointers on the great path of cultivation.

[Anonymous No.21253410]

>>21253390
Against the Gods

[Anonymous No.21253411]

fantasy authors mcdonalds order

Gene Wolfe: Big Mac, large fries, 9 piece McNuggets, and large sprite
Bakker: McChicken, small fries, small coke
Sanderson: happy meal

[Anonymous No.21253412]

Oop, the spambot has arrived.

[Anonymous No.21253413]

What's the name for that genre of chinkshit with an invincible main character where the entire story is a series of epic moments where everyone reveals they're secretly more badass than all the previously revealed badasses?

[Anonymous No.21253414]

>>21253409
>>21253384
Swear to god I’ve seen these two exact posts before in previous threads.

[Anonymous No.21253417]

>>21253414
You have, it's a spambot pulling from old posts because reasons.

[Anonymous No.21253421]

wuxia/xianxia fox spirit kino?

[Anonymous No.21253423]

Reading Unsouled was like consuming three loaves of white bread with mustard on it, the mustard being the god tripping scene.

[Anonymous No.21253426]

>>21253411
>Sanderson: happy meal

[Anonymous No.21253428]

Lord of the Mysteries is the by far the best webnovel/serial ever-written in the history of mankind.

[Anonymous No.21253433]

So i tried reading some of The Wandering Inn after seeing people talk about it on here, but I have only made about 1/3 of the way through vol 1 and I'm having trouble.
The main problem is the story is so female gazed it's giving me brain damage. DOes it get any better?

[Anonymous No.21253435]

>>21253412
It's probably the spergy jannie wannabe having a melty again.

[Anonymous No.21253439]

Just finished the first book of DCC. The humor in this is really trash.

[Anonymous No.21253442]

>>21253435
Nah, these are all zoomer questions. All that's missing is the DOTF posts and a few more.

[Anonymous No.21253445]

What is the best Xianxia with system autism.

[Anonymous No.21253449]

Just read Arrogant Young Master Template A Variation 4. What are the best xianxia with blue screen system? High levels of system autism is preferred.

[Anonymous No.21253451]

>>21253442
>It's the guy upset people were talking about things so he's spamming what was talked about

[Anonymous No.21253453]

>>21253442
That's the point. He loaded a bunch of posters that he hates into a bot to try to antagonize other people with. Or he just has a notepad file and manualspams it.

[Anonymous No.21253454]

>>21253451
Not the guy, I just know zoomer talks about these things often.

[Anonymous No.21253455]

>>21253390
>trashlit
>guilty pleasure
/sffg/, everybody

[Anonymous No.21253456]

so is this "unsouled" by will wight the "cradle' that you guys always reference? I think I'll bite the bullet and see what all the hype is about

[Anonymous No.21253458]

>>21253454
It's still the same thing, he's upset people are talking about books, so he's spamming it with booktalk.

[Anonymous No.21253460]

How did cultivation of all things become so popular among western web novelists anyway? What was the defining work?

[Anonymous No.21253465]

I understand LitRPGs are popular because video games, but why is xianxia popular?

[Anonymous No.21253467]

>>21253458
He actually thinks that he's going to spam literally the exact same posts as last night and say "it's the zoomers! the zoomers are here!" to and anyone's going to buy it.

[Anonymous No.21253469]

How to Survive at the Academy is a below average korean web novel.

[Anonymous No.21253473]

Can anyone recommend me some great Wuxia or Xianxia books? preferably things I can get physically in English I've always wanted to get into these genre's

[Anonymous No.21253476]

>>21253368
>>21253380
Probably the exact moment he was set off lul

[Anonymous No.21253479]

>>21253467
I don't even know why people do this. Do they hate the thread existing that much?

[Anonymous No.21253484]

>>21253411
>Sanderson: happy meal

[Anonymous No.21253485]

>>21253476
>>21253380 was my last post

Since it makes you seethe here's more concept art

[Anonymous No.21253490]

After five months of daily reading, I finally finished volume 3 of The Wandering Inn.

10 volumes to go.

[Anonymous No.21253493]

Where would I publish a series of slow, dialogue-heavy short stories based on the premise that interstellar travel by beings like humans is almost never possible?

[Anonymous No.21253498]

Wuxia>>>>Xianxia.

[Anonymous No.21253504]

I am reading Cradle.

[Anonymous No.21253508]

>>21253485
What I mean is I think your post is probably what triggered him hard enough to start spamming. Not that I have any horse in this race, just taking a guess.

[Anonymous No.21253510]

>>21253508
Ah, I've been away for a bit. What's up with the spambot?

[Anonymous No.21253513]

how good is wandering inn?

[Anonymous No.21253517]

>>21253510
zoomers would spam the thread, so someone made a bot that spams, or so that's the logic behind it.

[Anonymous No.21253519]

Is it just me or does anyone else find it hard to get started reading? Every time I want to start I put it off.

[Anonymous No.21253520]

>>21253517
It's not so much "zoomers spammed" as "people talked about things" and a guy got really upset and spammed about it every time people discussed things.

[Anonymous No.21253523]

what wuxia/xianxia/xuanhuan novel has the best world building?

[Anonymous No.21253526]

Is the Dandelion Dynasty any good?

[Anonymous No.21253527]

>>21253520
>people talked about things
If the last thread is any indication, I can see why some people would get annoyed.

[Anonymous No.21253531]

I wish i could read I Shall Seal the Heavens again for the first time....... my loot goblin mc.......

[Anonymous No.21253535]

>>21253465
Last Airbender

[Anonymous No.21253537]

Thoughts on the Watch series by Lukyanenko? Figured they would be far more popular but they always stay in the slightly more niche area when it comes to Urban Fantasy which is a shame since I think it has one of the coolest concepts

[Anonymous No.21253538]

>>21253527
So what, though? It's discussion about sci-fi/fantasy books in the sci-fi/fantasy books thread.

[Anonymous No.21253543]

>>21253517
The logic behind schizo spammers doesn't really matter much, to be honest.

[Anonymous No.21253547]

>>21253538
>It's discussion about sci-fi/fantasy book
What discussion about sci-fi/fantasy? It was one fag seething that there were women in books, and he spent hours, hours, just going one big ass incel rant.

[Anonymous No.21253551]

>>21253547
That's not what the "uuugh zoomers" guy was complaining about though. He was complaining about people talking about books because they were new books.

[Anonymous No.21253555]

Anyone else have literally me moments with Stannis Baratheon?

[Anonymous No.21253558]

>>21253547
Link to the reply chain? He sounds like someone worth reading. Moreso than the jannie wannabe's salty spam, that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.21253564]

>>21253551
Looks like it's xianxia and gamelit in particular that triggers him, based on the content of the spambot.

[Anonymous No.21253569]

>>21253564
Yeah, we know, which is why I said zoomer questions.

[Anonymous No.21253572]

Reading Hyperion AGAIN and enjoying my slow and comfy thread, wish you guys are enjoying this comfy time like i am :)

[Anonymous No.21253575]

>>21252302
Woman authors only want one thing and it's fucking disgusting.

[Anonymous No.21253587]

>>21253569
>we
Welcome to the cringe collection, anon.

[Anonymous No.21253588]

Might I suggest The Wandering Inn?

[Anonymous No.21253592]

>>21253558
>He sounds like someone worth reading.
If by worth reading, you mean a person who is in complete denial about his sexual orientation, then sure.

[Anonymous No.21253593]

ghetto board for web """"novels"""" when?

[Anonymous No.21253598]

In "Malice" a teenager who works as an apprentice can only do one pull-up. How the fuck is it possible for the author to be that out of touch with what the average person is capable of?

[Anonymous No.21253599]

If it isn't spam it's posts getting deleted. I just want to discuss fantasy and science fiction novels.

[Anonymous No.21253600]

reread the novels extra again. Man the first few parts are great but the tower and endless drama over the retarded girl's brother dying really fucked the latter half

[Anonymous No.21253606]

Bros, who's your favorite fantasy MC? I often feel like the main character of most fantasy books is either boring or unlikable so making one that is actually likable and interesting is an achievement.

I don't know if he is my #1 favorite, but for me, Rand Al'Thor comes to mind. I really enjoyed his development.

[Anonymous No.21253607]

>>21253599
>it's posts getting deleted.
I always see this complaint, but most, if not all post getting deleted are/were low-effort, spam, or just plain off-topic.
>I just want to discuss fantasy and science fiction novels.
Try reddit, or the goodreads group in the OP link.

[Anonymous No.21253608]

>>21253599
As long as it's not a genuine schizo he'll give up eventually. If he is a genuine schizo you're fucked until he gets rangebanned.

[Anonymous No.21253614]

black company is shit made for pigeon brained tards amused by a dripping tap

[Anonymous No.21253615]

>>21253606
Severian. I like his psycho vibes and insights :3

[Anonymous No.21253620]

Has anyone here read Mistborn by Brandon Sanderson? Finished The Way of the Kings recently and Mistborn seems like it'll be fun.

[Anonymous No.21253625]

How do you guys break in your books?

[Anonymous No.21253628]

Any books where the military or soldiers fight against monsters/demons? I know "monster hunter international" but it would be quite surprising if no one else ever thinkered with that idea.

[Anonymous No.21253631]

>>21253625
By… reading them.

[Anonymous No.21253634]

>>21253625
What does this even mean?

[Anonymous No.21253635]

>>21253625
>break in
Well I must say, I have a very peculiar technique

[Anonymous No.21253636]

Thoughts on the Goblin Emperor?

[Anonymous No.21253643]

>>21252473
Thanks I'll look up her books. And yeah, Feist overall is fairly mediocre. I have a lot of nostalgia for Magician and even Serpent War Saga, but he's not that great. Daughter of the Empire is really fucking great though.

[Anonymous No.21253644]

>western writers experience complex human emotions like "love"
Super cringe, if you find it happening to you, seek help

[Anonymous No.21253650]

>>21253620
only read the first one, I enjoyed it a lot but hated some of the action scenes, felt like he over writes it, but the story is good.

[Anonymous No.21253651]

Are there any *good* books like Gor? Well not Gor in actuality, but rather what the internet and popular culture has led me to believe Gor would be? The actual book was a disappointment 2bh.

[Anonymous No.21253653]

>>21253650
You know its a bot, right? Or are you this dumb?

[Anonymous No.21253655]

When does LotM get good?

[Anonymous No.21253659]

What are some good time travel books?

[Anonymous No.21253660]

Party members are a crutch for authors that can't write an interesting protagonist.

[Anonymous No.21253661]

>>21253653
at least I'm talking about a book

[Anonymous No.21253662]

>>21253479
This thread has attracted several severely autistic people who have made it their life's mission to shit it up and prevent anybody from enjoying it. Has been nigh unusable to me for over 2 years.

[Anonymous No.21253664]

[Anonymous No.21253666]

>>21253664
Finally a good post.

[Anonymous No.21253667]

Any books with Intense battles, pitch black lore, highly intellectual themes that dovetail into real world philosophy, poignant character psychology, and just a hint of Lovecraftian horror?

[Anonymous No.21253669]

>>21253593
I'd like it if we just a janitor or mod who gave enough of a shit to remove spam and ban the autists.

[Anonymous No.21253670]

What are some other novels with a sheer number of named characters like asoiaf? I kinda like it when Martin just lists off dozens of names. It makes the world seem bigger and more dense.

[Anonymous No.21253672]

I just finished my fantasy novel on Royal Road and it’s been very well received. It’s a gun powder fantasy set in a late Victorian/Edwardian environment with some slavic elements. Would you guys be interested? I’m hesitant to self promote on this board-I know that’s not what it’s really for.

[Anonymous No.21253673]

is stephen baxter considered fiction for autists

[Anonymous No.21253674]

>>21253669
We do have them, it's just that only a few people report posts.

[Anonymous No.21253677]

>>21253672
>Would you guys be interested?
no

[Anonymous No.21253679]

>>21253677
Okay. Thanks that’s why I asked.

[Anonymous No.21253680]

>>21253653
>He expects everyone else to be glued to his computer 24/7 instead of reading

[Anonymous No.21253684]

>>21253672
It's not really in my preferred subgenre of fantasy so I'd have to sample a chapter to see if it grabs me.

[Anonymous No.21253689]

>>21253672
What's considered well received on royal road?

[Anonymous No.21253688]

I am looking for a book or series where the hero is very Nietzschean and is amoral.

[Anonymous No.21253692]

What are some good fantasy books for coomers?

[Anonymous No.21253696]

>>21253680
You don't need to be glued on your computer when you can see a fag is spamming a question every minute. How dumb can you be?

[Anonymous No.21253700]

>>21253689
It was top 5000, had 50 people read it to completion (so far, has only been up for 1.5 months) and has a 4.79/5 rating with 9 ratings.

[Anonymous No.21253703]

>ways of sanderson
Write the most mainstream drivel to gain control over the minds of the masses and gain big success and earn major riches.
>ways of Bakker
Write the most complex of worlds with the most sublime of prose to win the minds of niche aristocrat readers so he can reign as the supreme ruler of fantasy.

[Anonymous No.21253707]

When does BOTNS get good? I've been reading for a couple hours and he still hasn't shut up about his obsession with vodalus and his boyhood nostalgia with the sweet smells of the summer winter archway flowers along the dancing shadow pond in the cool breeze of the secret place underneath the sunny snow along the rampart and blah blah blah blah
Like if this starts to spool up into something interesting im down for it. I want to be charmed by a new book. I've been trying this fucking places suggestions for a couple years just to find something captivating and interesting and more than just flowery prose and description autism but you guys haven't delivered since Cradle. I can enjoy some good prose and description but only if it actually goes somewhere.

[Anonymous No.21253710]

What's the best moorcock entry point?

[Anonymous No.21253713]

The Knight by Gene Wolfe, which is so recommended here, is an unreadable piece of crap. What a mess! Did I get trolled?
On the other hand, decided to give Lyonesse a chance, and I am really impressed. What a great story! Such captivating prose.

[Anonymous No.21253717]

Why did it take me a month to read 2/3 of the Deadhouse Gates? I'm not a retard, I swear. A 700-page book shoukd take max a week. I can barely understand what this is about, I hate DNFing and I still hope it gets better after a few pages.

[Anonymous No.21253720]

Hey, OP, where you get this illustrations? I liked very much one with some destroyed buildings and men camping and guarding.

[Anonymous No.21253723]

LitRPG but instead of some failson virgin being an edgy chuuni trying to make a harem it's a gigastacy fujo who forces all the men in the game to fuck and marry other men.

[Anonymous No.21253729]

Today I will finish Citadel of the Autarch

[Anonymous No.21253730]

What does /lit/ think of R. Scott Bakker and his Second Apocalypse books? I read them a while ago and found them quite fascinating.

His books were heavily infused with philosophy, especially the first three books. I'm a total noob when it comes to philosophy, and many times I scratched my head and had to reread some passages, but it was invigorating and unique nonetheless. I don't think many books exist in the fantasy genre that are so heavy on philosophy.

The strongest point are the characters though, their trials and inner dialogue. I have seldom read a character as deep as Drusas Achamian (annoying as he might be from time to time).

The premise in itself is nothing that special, it's heavily borrowed from the crusades. Wiki explains it better than me:

"It depicts the story of the Holy War launched by the Inrithi kingdoms against the heathen Fanim of the south to recover the holy city of Shimeh for the faithful. During the war, a man named Anasûrimbor Kellhus emerges from obscurity to become an exceptionally powerful and influential figure, and it is discovered that the Consult, an alliance of forces united in their worship of the legendary No-God, a nihilistic force of destruction, are manipulating events to pave the way for the No-God's return to the mortal world." (spoilers after that)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Scott_Bakker

Have you read it and what do you think? I recommend it to anyone interested in fantasy, even if you are not that into philosophy.

pic: Faces on covers of fantasy books usually puts me off and I wouldn't even bother picking that book up, but in this case I'm glad I did. There are other covers though without face, this is the one I've got.

[Anonymous No.21253733]

BOTN is the Infinite Jest of fantasy

[Anonymous No.21253735]

>>21253551
>That's not what the "uuugh zoomers" guy was complaining about though
Well, I can say now, its most likely the bakkerfag just finding new ways to spam now.

[Anonymous No.21253736]

>>21253735
Yep.

[Anonymous No.21253737]

The crybaby in this thread got me to pick Hyperion back up. Read 100 pages of it about a year ago and haven’t gotten back to it yet. It’s time.

[Anonymous No.21253738]

Can anyone here recommend some mindfuck scifi/fantasy?

I'm talking about something like the Matrix, Lost, or Homestuck that draws on eastern religions (or dead western ones), philosophy, modern pop-culture, and possibly real technology to create something that you can endlessly dig apart for theories and symbolism

[Anonymous No.21253740]

>>21253707
Wow you must be a slowass reader if you’ve read for a “couple hours” and aren’t even that far. Although measuring your reading in time and not pages does signal you’re probably an idiot and not a real reader

[Anonymous No.21253741]

> Prince of Nothing, Scott Bakker
Does to Tolkien and Fantasy what Blood Meridian does to the Western, and is probably the most solid fantasy series around right now. Imagine the filthy offspring of Tolkien and Frank Herbert coursing through a medieval Mediterranean world with heavy doses of Aristotelian philosophy. Perhaps one of the few fantasies whose settings in a pre-industrial world is actually thematically relevant to its characters. Also boasts some of the best traditional historical worldbuilding in contemporary fantasy.

[Anonymous No.21253743]

>>21253674
Reports basically make no difference, in my experience, if the mods largely ignore a board liek they do /lit/.

[Anonymous No.21253745]

>>21253743
>Reports basically make no difference
They removed a few posts before the spam started, the fuck do you mean they make no difference?

[Anonymous No.21253753]

>>21253745
And yet here we are, up to our elbows in spam, without a damn thing being done about it.

[Anonymous No.21253754]

First for the Senjak sisters

[Anonymous No.21253756]

Bakker the king prose
Dick long like a hose

[Anonymous No.21253757]

LotM 2 in only a few months
I cannot fucking wait

[Anonymous No.21253765]

Starting the morning by finishing Breeding Ground, which I began last night and is one of the short stories in the Xeelee: Resplendent collection; these stories primarily take place during the Assimilation Era of the overall Sequence.

[Anonymous No.21253771]

>>21253754
Using a reply and an image so this stands out in the spam.

What are some fantasy books in which the protagonist has incestuous romance?

[Anonymous No.21253780]

>>21253771
There's no point, anon.

[Anonymous No.21253781]

>>21253700
Those seem pretty good for a first book. Although it's not paying for itself or anything, if it's a good book under your name it will help magnify your growth as you produce more. Steampunk isn't my thing though.

[Anonymous No.21253785]

>>21253781
Thanks. It’s actually not steampunk though. All of the technologically is actually very grounded in the technology of the time.

[Anonymous No.21253789]

Why did cyberpunk have to ossify into cringe after PKD died? All the really cool philosophical stuff in his work has turned into kitsch with “””Cyberpunk””” subgenre slop.

[Anonymous No.21253791]

Has anyone of you read Malice and Havoc by Chris Wooding? I first read them years ago when I was younger and to this day they remain some of my favorite books. I was quite obsessed with them for a while. Do you know anything similar to them?

[Anonymous No.21253792]

>>21253785
I think my brain somehow automatically went to steampunk from "gunpowder fantasy" since I didn't recognize the term.

[Anonymous No.21253796]

What a disaster of a thread

[Anonymous No.21253800]

Multiverses are inherently soft sci-fi

[Anonymous No.21253803]

>>21253792
In your defense it's not a very commonly seen genre, though I can think of a few notable examples (e.g. Powder Mage series). And Victorian era fantasy has a lot of thematic overlap with steampunk.

[Anonymous No.21253805]

>>21253796
What happens when you trigger the bakker autist and mods aren't around to respond to reports.

[Anonymous No.21253809]

>>21253803
>>21253792
Yeah it’s a fair assumption. I have a background in turn of the century mechanical culture and engineering so I dislike steam punk because the technology was fascinating enough on its own, IMO.

[Anonymous No.21253814]

>>21253809
>I have a background in turn of the century mechanical culture and engineering so I dislike steam punk
Good man. I don't even consider steampunk a real genre, it's more like a fetishized aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.21253815]

I'm not ashamed of it anymore. I like GRRM.

[Anonymous No.21253823]

does fantasy and sci-fi literature even have a future? I feel like everyone is just consuming them in form of Anima/Manga, movies, or Comics instead of books
Isn't mystery/crime the only content that is even selling in book form nowadays

[Anonymous No.21253824]

>>21253771
>What are some fantasy books in which the protagonist has incestuous romance?
Song of Ice and Fire, I remember Game of Thrones had incest.

[Anonymous No.21253827]

>>21253823
Seethe

[Anonymous No.21253829]

>>21253824
Not the protagonists though. Granted Jaime becomes a pretty major character later, but if he's hoping for some steamy scenes he'll be pretty put out. I think Jaime only bangs his sister once after you start getting his PoV.

[Anonymous No.21253831]

>>21253814
Thanks. By way of example, this is cool enough and very aesthetic without needing a bunch of gears and greeblies added to it.

[Anonymous No.21253835]

What's some good Polish fantasy besides Witcher?

[Anonymous No.21253840]

>>21253672
>Would you guys be interested?
yes

[Anonymous No.21253842]

R. Scott Bakker is the best thing to happen to fantasy literature since

[Anonymous No.21253844]

i'm so fucking fed up at work that i don't even feel like reading

[Anonymous No.21253847]

>>21253823
It has to compete with tabletop, video games, hollywood, and then spinoff books of all of the above. It's no wonder that the traditional market is almost nonexistent and everyone's chasing niche, asia-inspired webnovel genres instead.

[Anonymous No.21253848]

>>21253840
Here you go:
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/59263/fletch-a-fantasy-of-the-high-seas

[Anonymous No.21253851]

>>21253847
It's a spambot.

[Anonymous No.21253853]

The Prince of Nothing trilogy, by Scott Bakker. It's pretty much devoid of all the ridiculous fantasy clichés, incredibly well written and genuinely intriguing and thought-provoking.

[Anonymous No.21253854]

Is The Knight of the Swords a good place to start with Moorcock?

[Anonymous No.21253856]

Prince of Nothing by Scott Bakker is mature, complex (and pretty brutal) series with almost no black-and-white characters and stories which aren't just about "hurr you are the chosen one, go and kill the dark lord".

[Anonymous No.21253857]

>>21253853
>Bakker posters are still shitting up sffg

[Anonymous No.21253858]

>>21253851
Ah, the previous reply threw me off.

[Anonymous No.21253865]

>>21252086
Search an archive for the "Real fantasy general" and read stuff mentioned there.

[Anonymous No.21253870]

>>21253857
If mods cared they would have range banned him by now, he's been doing this for over 2 years.

[Anonymous No.21253871]

>>21253857
Just report it.

[Anonymous No.21253873]

>>21253848
Looks interesting. I'll read it eventually

[Anonymous No.21253874]

>>21253870
Anon, just keep on reporting the spam.

[Anonymous No.21253876]

>>21253268

[Anonymous No.21253900]

>>21253870
They do ban him, he just finds way to circumvent it. Just keep on reporting him whenever he appears.

[Anonymous No.21253902]

>>21253873
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.21253911]

A desire to write but no unique story ideas

How sad a predicament

[Anonymous No.21253913]

>>21253796
You can improve it, instead of whining out it.

[Anonymous No.21253915]

>>21253911
Do it anyway, it'll polish your technique.

[Anonymous No.21253916]

>>21253911
write about a man who gets cucked by everything, try to make every situation he is in a cuck fest.

[Anonymous No.21253917]

>>21253911
So go ask the writing advice thread.

[Anonymous No.21253924]

>>21253917
Why would he do that? When he could get five minutes of fame doing nothing here?

[Anonymous No.21253925]

>>21253916
ALREADY BEEN WRITTEN BY THE NON-SUPREME FANTASY MAINSTREAM SHLOCK

[Anonymous No.21253934]

>>21253916
How about a dark tale of a farmer whose village gets taken over by orcs. While the remaining survivors in the village plot to try and overthrow their new brutal occupiers, our main character discovers that he has a fetish for watching his new orc overlords ravage his Wife in front of him. He enjoys it so much that he plans to disrupt his fellow villagers plans of armed resistance.

[Anonymous No.21253935]

I just started Titus Groan and the guy took approximately 100 words to describe the action of a man peering through a keyhole. Is the whole book like this and that's why it's kind of a meme around here, because it's impossibly long-winded? I think it's great though.

[Anonymous No.21253936]

>>21251370
Kelsier who? Did you mean Kellhus?

[Anonymous No.21253940]

>>21253934
Actually sublime, I can see it get adopted by HBO and the author getting rich

[Anonymous No.21253944]

>>21253936
He is non supreme, he doesn't read Bakker

[Anonymous No.21253958]

the Darkness that Comes Before, and the whole trilogy by extension, is sublime.

I read it when I was ~18 and I found it breathtaking. Just bear in mind that the first half of the first book is dense going, it should pick up around the middle.

[Anonymous No.21253966]

Howard, Smith, or Lovecraft?

[Anonymous No.21253973]

>>21253966
Whichever one you want to read most.

[Anonymous No.21253976]

>>21253966
When talking about depth and complexity, I think Bakker has more than those three. Is he a better writer? As someone who doesn't care about prose that much, PoN was sublime when it came to that...While outdated in some respects, was incredibly original as well..

So it's hard to compare them as authors, because they write different types of stories....but when It comes to depth (how I measure it at least) Bakker takes the cake. Considering his series is about 60-70% complete and assuming he won't turn into a shitty writer overnight(or die) his world will only get bigger and more complex. There are still so many questions left unanswered.

[Anonymous No.21253994]

Half this thread is literally replies copy and pasted from previous threads.

[Anonymous No.21254001]

>>21253994
proof?

[Anonymous No.21254003]

>>21253628
>Any books where the military or soldiers fight against monsters/demons?
Sounds like you should get into Warhammer 40k books

[Anonymous No.21254004]

>>21253994
Yes, we know, don't know why you had to make this post.

[Anonymous No.21254005]

>>21253994
It's disgusting. Absolutely weird, the effects of what one autist can do to a thread, left alone.
I think it would be hilarious if b*spammer got doxxed. Seeing a "Bakker is king" sign taped to his door would make that faggot stop his shit real fast :)

[Anonymous No.21254006]

>>21254005
You know the more attention you give him, the more he post. Just report his spam and be done with it.

[Anonymous No.21254010]

>>21250529
Haven’t read them but for how much I love Grendel I aught to.

[Anonymous No.21254011]

>>21254005
Bakker spammer would break you in half, no sandersoi will have the courage to face his iron gaze.

[Anonymous No.21254014]

>>21253935
Yes, the whole book is like and it's but it's fantastic, one of the best fantasy books I've ever read.

[Anonymous No.21254069]

>>21254006
That works for a normal person. Not this giga autist. He has literally spammed this general for over 2 years. Mods refuse to range ban him and he is too autistic to ever leave because he knows everybody here hates him and his shit author and he has to shitpost our thread because of it.

[Anonymous No.21254094]

please Thread Spammer Supreme, do not ruin another thread, I want to talk about my sanderson books in a safe space.

[Anonymous No.21254102]

>>21254069
Then just report him, no need to post about him.

[Anonymous No.21254153]

>>21254014
I don’t know if you know this, but it was a bot.

[Anonymous No.21254166]

>>21254102
This is the best course of action to take.

[Anonymous No.21254170]

>>21254001
Check the previous threads.

[Anonymous No.21254174]

>>21253911
Just go to /wg/, they have tips to help writers.

[Anonymous No.21254193]

>>21253854
Yes.

[Anonymous No.21254201]

>>21254193
You don’t need to reply to it, it’s a bot.

[Anonymous No.21254254]

I always thought it’s funny how easy it is to ban evade on 4chan but this is getting out of hands
Anyways, good morning fellas, what are we reading today?

[Anonymous No.21254260]

>>21254254
>what are we reading today?
Nothing

[Anonymous No.21254261]

>>21254254
People here read?

[Anonymous No.21254263]

>>21254254
I'm 3/4 of the way through Neuromancer. Is the rest of the trilogy worth reading?

[Anonymous No.21254266]

>>21254263
>Is the rest of the trilogy worth reading?
Read them and find out.

[Anonymous No.21254279]

>>21254254
The last part of Xeelee: Redemption. They made it to the Galactic centre and are now gathering their first bits of data on The Wheel.

[Anonymous No.21254285]

>>21253805
>the bakker autist
That gibbering mouthbreather really has nothing else going for him than petulantly gatekeeping his own thread on a Malaysian yak sexing forum, does he? It's really sad.

[Anonymous No.21254311]

>>21254266
I might want to read Snow Crash before Count Zero and Mona Lisa Overdrive THOUGH

[Anonymous No.21254318]

>>21254311
Then read that before Count Zero and Mona Lisa Overdrive

[Anonymous No.21254354]

>>21254254
>what are we reading today?
Just 4chan

[Anonymous No.21254364]

>>21254263
In some ways Count Zero was better. MLO was ok, there were some good parts

[Anonymous No.21254409]

>>21253664
Based

>>21253606
Fang Yuan? Is there even a need to ask?