/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.21224196]

Warriors of Light Edition

Previous Thread:>>21215835

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[Anonymous No.21224230]

>tfw you've reached bottom of the barrel xianxia

[Anonymous No.21224243]

>>21224230
have you read the gay ones yet?

[Anonymous No.21224251]

Bakker is KING

[Anonymous No.21224358]

>>21224251
of gay erotica

[Anonymous No.21224370]

>>21224358
I don't know, I've read a lot of gay erotica, and he's got some pretty big shoes to fill.

[Anonymous No.21224441]

>>21224196
>mfw good reads keeps alternating old and new site design
what the fuck is going on with that place?

[Anonymous No.21224468]

Not everyone can understand the power of Bakker, but those who understand, will rule supreme, and those who don't, will rage and scream, for those who rule are not like those who drool, it's the natural way of all things, perfectly balanced thread where those who rule dominate those who drool.

[Anonymous No.21224538]

zlib is gone.... bros....
i only started using it a few months ago too...

[Anonymous No.21224542]

>>21224538
it'll be back soon. they always are.

[Anonymous No.21224545]

>>21224538
>less convenient libgen
Literally who gives a shit

[Anonymous No.21224558]

My favorite part of Grendel is when the peasant starts speaking like a medieval professor, educating his master on the state, monopoly violence and legitimacy, in a Norse setting. Humor and political philosophy packed into a place I never expected it.

[Anonymous No.21224687]

>>21224538
Dumb zoomer, if you know, you know how to get books.

[Anonymous No.21224784]

>>21224441
Turning to shit, it's tiresome. I use it to log my read books. It's still decent for that, but I don't know for how long it will stay that way. They will find some way to fuck it up in the end.

[Anonymous No.21224841]

>>21224784
>Go to Goodreads.
>Get spammed with Native American History Month, Black History Month, Pride Month etc.

I hate America so much bros.

[Anonymous No.21224954]

>>21224841
>the algorithms responds to my interests
>this totally sucks haha am I one of you guys yet?

[Anonymous No.21224959]

any new book with Male MC with female romance?
preferable with zero LGBTQ representation.

[Anonymous No.21224972]

>>21224841

[Anonymous No.21224982]

>>21224538
Why is zlib the only book store zoomers know? Do they buy ads on tictoc or something?

[Anonymous No.21225110]

>>21224954
More like they have ideological banners at the top and bottom of various pages.

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.21225277]

>>21224196
Roadside Picnic - Arkady & Boris Strugatsky (1972/2012)

There are six zones where aliens visited without bothering to have any human contact for reasons one character describes as a roadside picnic. These zones are filled with artifacts, traps, and unexplainable phenomena, though only from a human perspective. A few who venture inside have official backing, but most are outlaw retrievers known as stalkers. Many die quickly because a single wrong move, no matter how inconsequential, often means death. Almost all of the traps are invisible, seemingly harmless, or unpredictable, so progress is slow, grueling, and paved by the deaths of those who came before. Being in a zone is extremely stressful, which leads to panicking, then death follows.

Most of the novel isn't spent in a zone, which is unfortunate because they're the best part. Much of the novel is spent discussing and philosophizing about how the zones have affected society and their personal lives. Despite the time spent talking, many of the profound changes are taken in stride and accepted as the way things are now, so no discussion is needed. All of this contributes to an overarching allegory. I tend to dislike allegory, but with countries such as China and Russia I'm more forgiving, as the stories are often forced to be allegorical because of the risks in stating anything clearly.

I also enjoyed the shifting nature of the narrative. I was surprised by how many times my understanding of the story changed as more information was revealed and meanings were superimposed on each other without contradiction. An interpretation that I favor is that the artifacts represent what's desired, but also forbidden, at least to the population at large. Those with power want them regardless because they realize their value despite the dangers they present. The zones are the labyrinthine bureaucracy whose ever shifting political currents must be navigated with preternatural ability for any chance of survival. There are religious metaphors, at face value anyway, but I don't know what to say about them other than that they're present. I'd only be speculating with a low level of confidence as to their meaning, let alone interpreting how the characters react to them.

I was often confused because although this was published in 1972, I felt that the narrative began somewhat after after World War II ended and then progressed through the decades of the Soviet Union and then well into the Putin years. The stalkers follow the same progression as they adapt to a changing world. The Strugatsky brothers may have intended differently, but to me this read like a draft of a future history of Russia. The afterword by Boris Strugatsky somewhat clarifies their intentions with behind-the-scenes info of the publishing process and an insightful perspective on post-Soviet life. After reading Snail on the Slope I was reluctant to read more from these authors, but this has changed my mind.

Rating: 4/5

[Anonymous No.21225317]

>>21224841
The american mind virus is going to take over everything.
I think we have to forget English to get away from it.

[Anonymous No.21225346]

>>21224196
Tower of Babel chads how are we enjoying the read?

[Anonymous No.21225390]

>>21224538
My zlib mirror still works :)

[Anonymous No.21225403]

>>21224558
I forgot to reply to you last thread >>21221271
It may have not been entirely intentional in the author's mind, although it could have been subconsciously illustrated, but the poem Beowulf itself (at least, as received by modern audiences through historical documentation; potential pre-literate oral traditions notwithstanding) is a thoroughly Christian work full of conventional Christian symbolism. It is an inescapable fact that dragons - THE Dragon of Revelation - are narrative stand-ins for the Devil in virtually all literature where they are portrayed as villains (and even in a few where they are portrayed positively). The parallels between a venomous serpent poisoning a man's mind (or a son of Cain's mind) into the bitterest depths of despair, and hatred, and damnation, and Christian theodicy, cannot be accidental. Even if Gardner was a completely ignorant secular buffoon who had zero historical or cultural awareness of Beowulf beyond the raw synopsis of the plot, which I highly doubt, I doubtthat such a parallel could have come about without at least a subconscious allusion to his childhood Sunday School lessons.
I do not believe it is possible to read the original Beowulf or John Gardner's Grendel in a vacuum. It is highly probable that you are correct in your assessment that he's bringing in existentialist philosophy into his book; I am not familiar enough with Sartre to disagree or to doubt that. But I can no more avoid seeing that sort of transparent and baldfaced Christian allusion than I can watch Marlon Brando as Jor-El tell the audience that he's sending his only begotten son to Earth in the 1978 version of Superman and think that was purely accidental.

[Anonymous No.21225410]

>>21225390
What does that mean? :( Im stupid

[Anonymous No.21225456]

What a shit book and ending

[Anonymous No.21225494]

>>21225456
What's the matter with it?

[Anonymous No.21225516]

>>21225494
WMWF pairing

[Anonymous No.21225558]

>>21225403
Your reading also has other points that speaks in its favor. Grendel observing the humans at various stages are quite clearly packed with discussion of religion and their tie to the Norse vs Grendel's meaninglessness. To add to this, I at least read a certain positive depiction of the religious humans, no matter how Grendel tried to paint them as liars and murderous hypocrites.

Several times does Grendel see himself as cursed, reference to Cain, which does allude to Gardner making a conscious decision of depicting Grendel as such.

[Anonymous No.21225621]

read cradle

[Anonymous No.21225683]

black company is shit made for pigeon brained tards amused by a dripping tap

[Anonymous No.21225711]

>>21225683
More like your taste is shit. BC, at least until the Books of the South, is certainly a good book(s). Croaker's narration is fresh, cynical, witty. Croaker also having the job of annalist elevates the character and book. BC itself is interesting, even with its own culture. Goblin and One-Eye add much needed chaos and humor. BC and its employers create a strange dynamic of backstabbing. The storyworld is filled with dangerous magic, opponents and twists and turns. Taken and Lady create a highly dangerous world. Dominator force through a finish.

[Anonymous No.21225743]

>>21225516
LOL

[Anonymous No.21225766]

TWI 8.04 T
I hope volume 8 is more like this and less like the previous chapters.
Give us cool stuff with the characters we already know (and maybe introduce a couple minor ones through them) instead of taking whole chapters to introduce new perspectives that I feel really aren't needed at the moment.
I can already picture it: Niers and whatever group he ends up with (goblins?), Lyonette's travel to Oteslia, the whole thing there with Magnolia, Liscor broadening ties somehow with Riverfarm now that the door connects them, whatever infigting in Baleros and the earthers there (Geneva meeting with the Minds or w/e for Erin), the cure is in fucking Aliendamus idk how that's even gonna connect with anything, I caught a mild spoiler about the Horns going to Chandrar and they still have to do the whole relic armor thing, Antinium divide?, a war in Izril?, meeting of tribes?
It's too much and I'm already missing Erin.

[Anonymous No.21225844]

>>21225711
>Croaker's narration is fresh, cynical, witty.
you could have saved the trouble of the rest of your post by posting the "intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humor" copypasta

[Anonymous No.21225858]

>>21225277
yeah just ordered this in, mainly because i only found out that the video game had a book, but i am pretty excited how much it compares. Not neccesarily in setting or storyline, but mainly in the feel of it all. Metro was pretty interesting for example because of this reason, last light was almost completely different than 2034 for example. It was fun to compare the two

[Anonymous No.21225873]

>>21224196
Got a question to all of you. What makes a fantasy novell great? What do you personally like about them? I would love to listen to some guiding toughts of me writing one.

[Anonymous No.21225883]

>>21225873
Writing general is that way >>21220163 now fuck off.

[Anonymous No.21225891]

>>21225883
Suck my cock Tolkien Fanboy

[Anonymous No.21225895]

>>21225873
it has to be fun

[Anonymous No.21225906]

>>21225895
By fun you mean pacing, setting, the way the writer goes about building the characters through the whole of it or its something you cannot really out your finger on?

[Anonymous No.21226029]

>>21225873
Good fantasy makes the past magical, heroic, and above all else, different from the current world.

[Anonymous No.21226052]

>>21226029
any series you'd personally recommend? Preferably something that has managed to make things dramatic, creepy, humorous all in the same book.

[Anonymous No.21226089]

>>21226052
You could try The Lies of Locke Lamora. In the ocean of medieval inspired fantasy it stands out with a fresh setting: shark gladiators and heist-fantasy, amid Venetian crime lords set in the ruins of a mysterious elder race.

[Anonymous No.21226092]

>>21225873
>What makes a fantasy novell great?
Hot women

[Anonymous No.21226106]

>>21226092
hot women above all

[Anonymous No.21226119]

>>21226089
Finally a proper answer, thank you a million lad

[Anonymous No.21226125]

>>21226092
Haha sure, i'll include Femme Fatales

[Anonymous No.21226181]

>>21226052
Not TOO much creepy admittedly, but Discworld manages to balance humour and drama surprisingly well. You'd never think that a man screaming about a cow would be a genuinely dramatic and compelling moment (with even a bit of fear because it switches to the POV of other people seeing it happen) but it works.

[Anonymous No.21226184]

>>21225873
>What makes a fantasy novell great?
Not having many women on it
Close to zero romance
Consistency in the setting and systems

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.21226193]

>>21225858
I haven't had anything to do with any of the media that the book inspired. They probably do share an aesthetic if nothing else though.

[Anonymous No.21226234]

>>21225873
Downwards spiral of a protagonist. They start out young and idealistic, then get hammered down by life and become more and more ruthless and pragmatic. Next they're burning down a village or firing on a shipyard and killing millions.

[Anonymous No.21226251]

bakker is a hack
he will never come back

[Anonymous No.21226259]

>>21226181
Thank you, thats the second proper recommendation made in this thread.

Some faggot made a thread in my name and is replying to his own posts. What a fucking sperg.

>>21226184
Makes sense not to focuse on the romance aspect, would ruin the whole fantastic feel of it, and who even wants to read about a run of the mill "Oh they got so close to eachother trough this journey" romance.

>>21226193
The less goyslop media you consume the better. Tough i'm allready over that and i'll probably have a much more limited imagination to read the book initially, than how i could have enjoyed it withouth going in allready "biased"

[Anonymous No.21226290]

How successful have his editors been?

[Anonymous No.21226293]

>>21226234
Well, that would make sense for an anti-hero, but i'm much more interested in the classical definition of fantasy. Either travelers, scientists, or just simple pepole trying to live day by day

[Anonymous No.21226313]

>>21225277
Nice review. The book continues to live in the shadow of its adaptations, but it's actually superior to them.

[Anonymous No.21226408]

>>21226259
Yeah, it can be difficult to not allow prior experiences to bias current experiences due to expectations. It's unfortunate, but it can be rather inconvenient to avoid it.

>>21226313
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. Books will probably be in the shadow of almost any other media now. It's just the way it is. I'm not much concerned about it though.
That image is completely accurate.


I've been forgetting to drop the tripcode for replies more often for replies. Oh well.

[Anonymous No.21226412]

Post hack authors with zero redeeming factors and whose books make you feel a visceral sense of disgust
>Brent Weeks

[Anonymous No.21226436]

>>21226412
I couldn't finish Wizard's First Rule. I really tried, but felt almost like a parody of fantasy.

[Anonymous No.21226443]

>>21225873
Fun world and characters for escapism purposes

[Anonymous No.21226453]

>>21225277
>>21226313
You really make the samefagging so absurdly transparent. How about trying a new "exchange" other than
>nice review
>thanks, I'm glad you liked it
literally every time. It's beyond pathetic.

[Anonymous No.21226462]

>>21226453
>>21225277
>>21226313
samefag

[Anonymous No.21226463]

>>21225873
True escapism, the more you can get lost in it without getting back to this souless reality we live, the better.

[Anonymous No.21226466]

>>21225277
Shit "review", as always. Embarrassingly uncritical thinking, just bad paraphrasing.

[Anonymous No.21226514]

>>21225346
finished it yesterday

satisfied with the ending, despite the questions it left open. might actually prefer the author never revisiting the world compared to a possible disappointing sequel series. I prefer the unwilling conscripts to a galactic war with the Brick Layer being an ayy recruiter theory from Voleta. I didn't really see a literal spaceship coming. I was thinking the Bridge was more of a wormhole or space elevator.
only thing that was kind of iffy was the sphinx just fucking off and dying, doing nothing after they left at the end of Arm (her literal battery ran out? kek). although that might be the point, any one sphinx itself isn't really important.
no main character deaths and basically happy endings for them was nice in my opinion. rip reddleman, but becoming an AI of the ship was cool.

thanks again for the recc bro

[Anonymous No.21226587]

what wuxia/xianxia/xuanhuan novel has the best world building?

[Anonymous No.21226621]

>>21226453
>>21226462
Meds.

[Anonymous No.21226662]

>>21226621
>implying anybody exists on 4chan besides you
all 4chan posts are tulpas created in your brain, this website doesn't even exist

[Anonymous No.21226699]

>>21226587
Im gonna say martial world because it’s my first one and I’m not yet through the 2250 chapters

[Anonymous No.21226701]

>>21226699
I was about to post this, martial world really has nice world building

[Anonymous No.21226713]

>>21226701
I really enjoy it as well so far, the descriptions of the mountains, the wilderness, the politics and trade, shit like that. And the fact that Ling Ming literally kills his opponents dicks if they’re particularly douchy

[Anonymous No.21226718]

>>21226251
When Bakker is back
sandersoi corpses will stack

[Anonymous No.21226719]

>reading Morning Star
>protagonist allies with a diametrically opposed yet mutually respectable enemy to defeat a larger threat
>beat the larger threat together
>instead of the common troupe where the temporary ally backstabs the protagonist, the protagonist flips the script and does it first
Darrow is too based

[Anonymous No.21226737]

Rec me some good first contact books please
I just finished Blindsight and really enjoyed it

[Anonymous No.21226742]

>>21226737
Nicole's First Time: A Virgin Sex Erotica Story

[Anonymous No.21226766]

>>21226699
>>21226713
Thanks, I'll give it a try. Hopefully it's better than its sequel, because that one started to feel stale after the first 300-400 chapters

[Anonymous No.21226813]

>>21224545
it had ~20 TB more stuff than libgen
more pertinently it had way more of the recent sffg titles

[Anonymous No.21226831]

>>21226621
2new

[Anonymous No.21226850]

>>21226766
I’ve heard that the sequel is supposed to be way worse

[Anonymous No.21226959]

>>21226813
Mobilism is better for new stuff. Other places are better for other stuff.

[Anonymous No.21226991]

>>21226587
Reverend Insanity. It has insane detail in the gus and the way they are maintaned, lots of monsters and different societies (5 at least, plus the non-humans ones). For what I seen worldbuilding is barely a thing in Cultivation novels, as they just phase world like crazy in some.

[Anonymous No.21227067]

>>21226991
Martial World worldbuilding is more descriptive, the nature, landscapes, cities, the world are more detailed, Reverend insanity worldbuilding has less details but the integration with the story is stronger.

[Anonymous No.21227068]

>>21225766
>Give us cool stuff with the characters we already know (and maybe introduce a couple minor ones through them) instead of taking whole chapters to introduce new perspectives that I feel really aren't needed at the moment.
that's pretty much what i'm asking for all the time as well. but that being said, V8 still had its standout moments.
that you're missing erin already is not a great sign though, lol. i'd try to forget her for now, that's all i'll say for now.

also remember that it's a balancing act. sometimes new POVs feel pointless but they still serve a purpose in the long run. and in TWI's case it's the long, long run. the last interlude you read is kinda like that.

[Anonymous No.21227090]

>>21227068
>that you're missing erin already is not a great sign though, lol

I think I got really spoiled by so much of her in V7 T.T

[Anonymous No.21227149]

>>21227090
wait a few chapters, maybe something will happen :^)

that being said, one piece of advice, do not try to skim ahead or trying to find out what will be in the chapter you're reading. my impatience for wanting to see certain characters around this time often led me to ctrl+F the chapters just to see what lies ahead. it was a pretty bad habit in hindsight. it makes you focus on what you want to read rather than what you are reading.

[Anonymous No.21227166]

>>21227149
Are you 12

[Anonymous No.21227212]

>>21227166
no. and i blame TWI for this.
novels normally don't have this kind of pacing. at some point i gave in to temptation. and i didn't actually "read" ahead in any way. i would just use ctrl+f and see how many hits i'd get and how they were spread in the chapters (chapters range from 20k to 30-40k words, and V8 had some of the longest chapters in the series iirc).
again, it was a bad habit that i lost sometime later in the volume because i realized it's a dumb thing to do.

[Anonymous No.21227236]

>>21225873
A strong vision/metaphor tying everything together. Not necessarily something as heavy handed as a "message" or a "moral", but at least a clear purpose or expression related to what the author cares about. Like Tolkein and his religion and experiences with industrial war. Even if LotR isn't ABOUT WWI, it's very certainly a response to it.

Aside from that, a good "engine" is absolutely required. Some specific feature that gets constant use and prevents shitty filler patterns. Could be witty dialogue between two characters, a mysterious narrator, poetic setting descriptions, gripping fight scenes, intelligent plotting sessions, etc... Basically imagine a comedy where there were no jokes for 40 minutes, or an action movie where nothing explodes for half an hour. They're shit right? Same holds true for a book, if you've got a "thing", then lean into it and use it often.

[Anonymous No.21227252]

>>21226587
Reverend insanity, even unfinished is extremely well integrated. LotM is also good, and connects a very long history full of unknowns into a coherent whole that always seems natural and makes sense no matter how bizarre it gets.

[Anonymous No.21227253]

>>21225873
>What do you personally like about them?
Fights and Magic battles, i don't understand people who read fantasy books that don't have a single action sequence.

[Anonymous No.21227260]

>>21227067
RI had some really neat descriptions in the first book that I was sad to see basically phased out. After a certain point he mostly gives up describing things in detail aside from a few rare setpieces to keep the story moving.

[Anonymous No.21227290]

You know a book is good when it inspires you to make fan art of it.
The only books that have inspired me to make art are The Second Apocalypse,Dune, Roadside Picnic and The Three body problem.

[Anonymous No.21227327]

Is the Dandelion Dynasty any good?

[Anonymous No.21227332]

Is it just me or does anyone else find it hard to get started reading? Every time I want to start I put it off.

[Anonymous No.21227341]

>>21227327
I lost interest after book 2. It's more of a saga, following multiple generations, but once it devolves into a tribe of literal club-wielding cave man white people with super ocean-crossing ships arriving to colonize the peaceful PoC Chinese Empire I just rolled my eyes right out of my head.

[Anonymous No.21227346]

>>21227332
I like to start new books, but once I hit a snag that interrupts my enjoyment, I increasingly find it harder to keep pushing past it. I used to just plow through books regardless, but anymore I drop them at the slightest resistance to my attention.

[Anonymous No.21227353]

>>21227327
I thought it was great.

[Anonymous No.21227359]

>>21227341
i hope its not as dumb as you say, im halfway trough the first book and i really enjoy Kuni, his wife and Mata.
Some of the worldbuilding is interesting too.

[Anonymous No.21227365]

Any good sci-fi like the Three Body Problem?

[Anonymous No.21227369]

Good job, you mentally Ill zoomers. The thread reached 100 posts. You can stop asking questions you don’t care about.

[Anonymous No.21227403]

>>21227369
101

[Anonymous No.21227407]

>>21227327
>>/lit/?task=search2&ghost=yes&search_text=dandelion&search_tripcode=sffg&search_ord=old

[Anonymous No.21227411]

>>21227365
The Redemption of Time: A Three-Body Problem Novel

[Anonymous No.21227448]

>>21227411
I saw that it was not written by the original author and got scared, is it worth a read?

[Anonymous No.21227452]

Has anyone here read Mistborn by Brandon Sanderson? Finished The Way of the Kings recently and Mistborn seems like it'll be fun.

[Anonymous No.21227471]

>>21227452
Ah the master baiter has appeared. Let us all acknowledge his cleverness.

[Anonymous No.21227521]

>>21227471
:|

[Anonymous No.21227523]

>>21225873
The fantasy novel must evoke wonder and nostalgia. It must feel keenly hopes, struggles, despairs and triumphs. It must be timeless.

[Anonymous No.21227554]

>>21225873
Good characters interacting with wondrous or at least exciting settings. Also a writing style that doesn't put me to sleep.

[Anonymous No.21227635]

>>21227523
the dog gets it

[Anonymous No.21227845]

The Empire of Dust any good?

[Anonymous No.21227860]

>>21227845
It's tiresome.

[Anonymous No.21227865]

>>21227860
It's all so tiresome...

[Anonymous No.21227901]

>>21227290
This happened to me today when I finished Dune. I doodled a Shai-Hulud with some stickman Fremen, and Arrakeen.

[Anonymous No.21227974]

How do you guys break in your books?

[Anonymous No.21227982]

>>21227974
You really that desperate for this thread to be on the first page?

[Anonymous No.21227997]

>>21227982
Yep

[Anonymous No.21228004]

>>21225403
>>21225558
Excellent discussion anons. Nothing to add besides the fact that the notion of Dragons corrupting mens’ hearts makes me appreciate how nefarious the act if giving Grendel his powers was.
>>21224558
Absolutely brilliant scene. The way he weaves it in to the eventual usurping of the throne in like that seems like something Joyce would do with the Odysses in Ulysses.
>>21227290
I can’t draw very well, so my fan art is usually writing a scene that’s inspired by what I read.

[Anonymous No.21228071]

>>21227359
I liked book 1 enough to pick up book 2. But book 2 just lost me completely between Kuni becoming almost irrelevant to the story and the dumb barbarian invasion plot.

[Anonymous No.21228201]

>>21226514
Glad you like it bro.
I agree that its nice in the end that everyone is happy but during the read it bothered me. Like voleta could have just died and the ship could have just fucking crashed after the silks were attacked instead of just levitating lmao.
Im so impressed with Bancroft getting away with such cheesy characters. Might be their depth? Like Iren is literally an anime character but somehow he made me care a lot about every person we meet. Just such nice books honestly.
Apparently Bancroft has something new next year and Im jacked to the tits for it

[Anonymous No.21228254]

>>21226959
yeah for very new mobilism was better
but there was no site superior to b-ok/z-lib in sheer number of total titles

[Anonymous No.21228364]

>>21228254
>mobilism
Holy shit that site looks like it’s straight out of 2008

[Anonymous No.21228422]

>Pharesm made a peremptory gesture. Cugel fell silent. Pharesm drew a deep breath. "You fail to understand the calamity you have visited upon me. I will explain, so that you may not be astounded by the rigors which await you. As I have adumbrated, the arrival of the creature was the culmination of my great effort. I determined its nature through a perusal of forty-two thousand librams, all written in cryptic language: a task requiring a hundred years. During a second hundred years I evolved a pattern to draw it in upon itself and prepared exact specification. Next I assembled stone-cutters, and across a period of three hundred years gave solid form to my pattern. Since like subsumes like, the variates and intercongeles create a suprapullulation of all areas, qualities and intervals into a crystorrhoid whorl, eventually exciting the ponentiation of a pro-ubietal chute. Today occurred the concatenation; the 'creature,' as you call it, pervolved upon, itself; in your idiotic malice you devoured it."

Does this really entertain native speakers of English? I had enough dictionary flipping before but this is ridiculous

[Anonymous No.21228431]

>>21224230
yeah that sucked dick

[Anonymous No.21228440]

Where can I download ebooks now since b-ok.cc got taken down by glowies? I haven't been here for a while

[Anonymous No.21228447]

>>21228440
Amazon has eBooks that you can download

[Anonymous No.21228467]

>>21228422
>needing a dictionary to read that
You're doing it wrong.

[Anonymous No.21228474]

>>21228422
What confuses you about it? I'm ESL and I still understand it.

[Anonymous No.21228517]

>>21228422
What confuses you about it? I'm ETL and I still understand it.

[Anonymous No.21228527]

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[Anonymous No.21228548]

>>21228422
He's a fucking wizard, you don't need to understand precisely what he's saying to get the joke

[Anonymous No.21228737]

>>21227260
I really liked the different resources points, so to speak, where powerful gus appeared, they were amazing. I really feel they would work great in rpgs. I also love when Fang Yuan become the wolf master, all the chase for the wolfs and the different kinds is my jam, is there any cultivation novel than does something like that?

[Anonymous No.21228871]

Any books where the military or soldiers fight against monsters/demons? I know "monster hunter international" but it would be quite surprising if no one else ever thinkered with that idea.

[Anonymous No.21228893]

Thoughts on the Goblin Emperor?

[Anonymous No.21228906]

>>21228893
Goblin mode

[Anonymous No.21228954]

>>21228871
At least on the movie front, Live, Die, Repeat uses this setting.

[Anonymous No.21228973]

>>21228871
It's a pretty barren genre unfortunately. Basically every series that presents itself as that almost immediately derails into either chosen one bullshit, or rehashing Lovecraft bullshit (MHI does that).
I don't think I've actually come across a single series that was just stand alone stories of humans vs monsters.
I am so sick of authors falling back on generic lovecraftian shit.

[Anonymous No.21229084]

Do you believe a fantasy map can be "too Eurocentric" or "too real" as in too much like the real world where you can almost impose the real world map over the fantasy and pinpoint where which culture was copied from?
GRRRRRR Marten has done something similar with just copying and flipping Britain but adjusting size.

[Anonymous No.21229095]

>>21229084
>Do you believe a fantasy map can be "too Eurocentric"
Shoo. Away with your post-colonial attitude and misery.

You can do anything you want with a fantasy world and its map, AS LONG AS the story itself is good.

[Anonymous No.21229108]

>>21229084
>GRRRRRR Marten has done something similar with just copying and flipping Britain but adjusting size.
When will you dumbfucks go extinct?

[Anonymous No.21229171]

>>21228364
as long as it just werks
I'm not a woman so this all that matters to me

[Anonymous No.21229192]

>>21228893
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_text=Addison&search_tripcode=sffg&search_ord=old

[Anonymous No.21229199]

>>21228440
There are many ways. IRC, #bookz, #ebooks, LibGen, mobilism, anonymouse, and many other sites.

[Anonymous No.21229211]

>>21229095
See the quotation marks around that thing youre so upset about? See them? Because I dont think you've seen them. Look again and you'll probably see them.

[Anonymous No.21229213]

>>>/tv/176563883

[Anonymous No.21229218]

>>21229084
I don't understand the obsession with muh maps in fantasy, especially the clan of hyperautists who will whine if mountain ranges make no sense or shorelines aren't jaggy enough. Like, who gives a fuck?

[Anonymous No.21229228]

>>21229218
>implying SSF wasn't built by hyperautists gobbling up standard tropes and common themes.
Money is the outer god that all fandom markets bow to

[Anonymous No.21229273]

Screw fantasy maps being too real, let's talk fantasy cosmology thats not unreal enough. Let's talk about maps that can't be put in Mercator or Plattee Carree.

[Anonymous No.21229396]

I've picked up these today for like 4$ each. Did I get scammed?

[Anonymous No.21229466]

What's some good Polish fantasy besides Witcher?

[Anonymous No.21229491]

>>21229466
Anything they claim to have invented :^)

[Anonymous No.21229495]

>>21229396
What condition are they in
What year were they published
Were they printed on good quality paper
Either way they look like they should be cheaper than a new paperback

[Anonymous No.21229554]

>tfw romance sideplot introduced
If chinks can write thousands of webnovel chapters without having a single kiss scene, why can't western writers do the same in a 500 pages book?

[Anonymous No.21229721]

>>21229554
Lol what a sad opinion do have

[Anonymous No.21229779]

Any good post apocalypse or post post apocalypse fantasy/sci-fi novels?
I have already read, Malazan and TSA looking for something similar

[Anonymous No.21229798]

>>21229554
>soulless permavirgin bugmen don't know what women are so they don't write about them
perhaps it has something to do with the fact that western writers experience complex human emotions like "love" and think it belongs in their work to make it intellectually and spiritually complete?

[Anonymous No.21229808]

thread is full of these

[Anonymous No.21229825]

>>21229779
Ember ad Infinitum

[Anonymous No.21229883]

>western writers experience complex human emotions like "love"
Super cringe, if you find it happening to you, seek help

[Anonymous No.21229918]

>>21229554
>>21229721
>>21229798
Nta but o have an irl gf, I don’t need to read about romance. What I don’t have irl is a vastly fantastical land with dragons and shit

[Anonymous No.21229963]

>>21229918
If she’s real I feel bad for her honestly

[Anonymous No.21229967]

>>21229963
(she’s not real)

[Anonymous No.21230005]

Are there any *good* books like Gor? Well not Gor in actuality, but rather what the internet and popular culture has led me to believe Gor would be? The actual book was a disappointment 2bh.

[Anonymous No.21230036]

>>21228871
>>21228954
This fits the bill pretty closely, a ranger company gets thrown into fantasy land (it's a bit more complex but this is the effective result) and fuck shit up. It's pretty precise, almost pedantic in the descriptions of the fights, by the end of book two I had to take a break because it got too repetitive

[Anonymous No.21230035]

I want bakker posting to end and go away forever

[Anonymous No.21230040]

>>21230036
meant this for >>21228973
not >>21228954

[Anonymous No.21230043]

>>21230035
Rage and scream forever

[Anonymous No.21230047]

>>21230043
Sooner or later you will have to die.

[Anonymous No.21230055]

What the deal with Silverberg? Worth getting into?

[Anonymous No.21230066]

>>21229211
By using the terms you accept passively accept their validity.

[Anonymous No.21230116]

>>21230066
So did this guy accept them too >>21229095 ? Looks like it. Didnt even pit "post-colonial" into quotation marks.

[Anonymous No.21230141]

>>21230055
I like several of his works, but also don't like a lot. Mostly his latter works.

[Anonymous No.21230148]

When does LotM get good?

[Anonymous No.21230179]

>>21230141
What are the best?

[Anonymous No.21230215]

>>21230179
The ones you like the most. There's no best and different people different ones for different reasons. Dying Inside is a common choice though.

[Anonymous No.21230260]

>>21230215
Alright calm down

[Anonymous No.21230304]

>>21230055
Yes he's great, one of the best from the scifi New Wave. Just a heads up he's a hippie and a lot of his works reflect that, i don't mind but I know some anons don't like those kind of authors.
Thorns is my favorite book of his.

[Anonymous No.21230329]

any New vampire lit with a human Male MC and a Female Vampire romance?

[Anonymous No.21230373]

>>21230329
I wish buddy

[Anonymous No.21230382]

>>21230304
He’s a real hippie not a Twitter pronouns hippie. Silverberg had actual beliefs

[Anonymous No.21230399]

>>21229495
It's from a decomissioned library, printed in 1990, pages are yellow as if it was printed 100 years ago. At least they don't seem to be falling apart.

[Anonymous No.21230404]

FYI both the new Twenty Palaces books are out from behind the patreon paywall. Above average urban fantasy, for those interested.

[Anonymous No.21230416]

Why do people say you should skip this?
Is it really bad?

[Anonymous No.21230456]

>>21229798
>perhaps it has something to do with the fact that western writers experience complex human emotions like "love" and think it belongs in their work to make it intellectually and spiritually complete?

I could accept that if there were at least a few pure power fantasies by western aurhors without love/romance/sex but I don't think there are any therefore it's likely that western authors are just brainwashed coomers who are rigid with their writing style imposed by western society, they just don't know any better, worse they can't even think outside the box.
Chinese on the other hand are suppresed by ccp yet they still can manage both romance and power fantasy.

[Anonymous No.21230479]

>>21230047
You first anti-Bakkerfag

[Anonymous No.21230481]

Bakker kino thread? Bakker kino thread.

[Anonymous No.21230492]

>>21230416
Just watch the films.

[Anonymous No.21230508]

>>21227149
I've been doing the same thing a bit kek

[Anonymous No.21230527]

>>21230416
It's not bad, so much as lacking as solid an identity as the later series. It's the first Discworld book and all it is is basically a parodic fantasy, rather than the more satirical and whimsical thing Discworld becomes. It's fine, but it's a bit eh in comparison.

[Anonymous No.21230539]

>>21230456
This poster is definitely a bug.

[Anonymous No.21230667]

bakker is a hack
he will never come back

[Anonymous No.21230740]

>>21230539
Kek you are unable to even consider a different viewpoint when it comes to women/romance in sff literature, you truly are a brainwashed coomer.

[Anonymous No.21230745]

>3 shallan chapters in a row

[Anonymous No.21230843]

>>21230740
>bugman angry that a human calls his chinkshit shit

[Anonymous No.21230860]

>>21230456
Western authors can't even write coom without it being full of whoremongering and cuckshit. I have no idea where you are finding chinese romance that isn't atrocious though.

[Anonymous No.21230861]

>>21230843
>bugmanbugmanchinkshitbugman
can't argue with that

[Anonymous No.21230868]

>>21230860
>I have no idea where you are finding chinese romance that isn't atrocious though.
I never said it's good, but many wuxia novels have it.

[Anonymous No.21230888]

>>21230868
Fair enough.

[Anonymous No.21230966]

Party members are a crutch for authors that can't write an interesting protagonist.

[Anonymous No.21230990]

Book seven is horrible so far. Book six was bad too. Any reason to hope for a rally, or is it played out?

[Anonymous No.21231005]

>>21230990
When was it good? DotF started off mediocre and never really went above it.

[Anonymous No.21231030]

>>21230966
imagine being so cripplingly autistic you can't even imagine fictional people having friends lmao

[Anonymous No.21231033]

>>21231005
I liked books 1 and 3, while 2 and 4 were readable if mediocre. But 6 and so far 7 have been truly bad. If it just goes on like this, I'm out.

[Anonymous No.21231073]

>>21230990
>Book seven is horrible so far. Book six was bad too. Any reason to hope for a rally, or is it played out?
What is Book 7, Undead on Earth? Or the Hidden Realm arc on Earth? The first one was pretty bad, definitely a low-point, the second was mediocre.
However, the arcs after? Kino. Probably the best DotF to date.

[Anonymous No.21231096]

>>21227341
>>21227359
>>21228071
Book two's main issue was that it felt way too much like two separate books awkwardly crammed together, leaving both halves feeling rather half-baked.

[Anonymous No.21231102]

>>21231030
Imagine being so cripplingly autistic that you go to the fantasy shelf in the bookstore when you actually just want to watch the latest episode of Family Guy.

[Anonymous No.21231107]

>>21229883
I remember when I was a dumb edgy teenager too

[Anonymous No.21231121]

>>21230990
I dropped it when he made an ultra cringy romantic drama shield out of the worst character in the story.

[Anonymous No.21231144]

>hear about wheel of time for over a decade
>eventually pick it up
>every page include one of these
>"she tugged he braid"
>"avalance of frozen fire"
>"ageless face"
>"heron marked sword/palm"
>"womens are bitches amirite?"
>"men are idiots amirite?"
>muh madness
>"X made her feel Y, but feeling Y made her feel Z"
>and god knows how many more I've forgotten
How did that retard manage to write 13 books and couldn't find alternative descriptions even once? It's just so repetitive

[Anonymous No.21231155]

>>21231033
I'm honestly growing kind of tired of these endless LitRPG webnovels. Just give me ones that fucking end.

[Anonymous No.21231187]

>>21231155
>LitRPG webnovels
>end
HAHAHA you made a huge mistake pal

[Anonymous No.21231210]

>>21231030
imagine being so cripplingly autistic you can't even imagine fictional people having no friends lmao

[Anonymous No.21231246]

>>21231155
Life Reset was good and had an end. Warlords of the Circle Sea wasn't good, but had a satisfying end. Underdog just had a good end. Respawn ends, The Perfect Run. Way of the Shaman, Dark Herbalist, Level Up. I'm sure there are more that I can't think of just now.

[Anonymous No.21231356]

>>21230416
>Why do people say you should skip this?
Because they read one of the later books first. Colour and Light would be better described as a comedic fantasy travelogue, while most of Discworld has tighter plots around one single idea. e.g. what if santa but evil

[Anonymous No.21231371]

>>21231356
>Because they read one of the later books first.
Doesn't really explain why they would skip the first book of the series.

[Anonymous No.21231383]

>>21231371
nta, but maybe it’s due to the fact that it’s more comedic so people are out off by it.

[Anonymous No.21231399]

>>21231371
Practically every book in Discworld is standalone. All the covers I've seen just say A Discworld Novel rather than say Book 11 of Discworld

[Anonymous No.21231410]

>>21231371
Some people just want to read a book or two to see if the series is for them. Since the first two aren't really representative of the rest of the series, they are poor choices for someone doing that. If you're a completionist who's just going to gun it no matter what, then yes, you should start with them.

[Anonymous No.21231450]

>>21231107
>I remember when I was a dumb edgy teenager too
That's nice of you to assume he's an underage teenager and not some adult who failed at life.

[Anonymous No.21231459]

I needed a break after listening to The Thousandfold Thought, so I listened to The Black Company. It was such a drastic difference in writing styles but much needed.
I like how The Black Company doesnt take itself so seriously. Its not self aware at all, trying to make up its own tropes or worse, trying to subvert its tropes. The slapstick style magician feuds are pure fun. I think it would be very good if adapted to a tv show.

[Anonymous No.21231468]

>>21231073
They are battling cultists and werewolves in the mystic realm mountain.

[Anonymous No.21231472]

>>21231410
>Since the first two aren't really representative of the rest of the series,
I think otherwise, but it's of no concern for me.

[Anonymous No.21231477]

>>21231472
Well, given it has, among other things, a Patrician who's nothing like Vetinari, Death who's nothing like Death, a lot of "adventure" when most Discworld novels are pretty stationary, the overall parody-feeling... It doesn't quite gel. It's not completely different, of course, Pratchett's writing still has the same flavour, but it's clearly a book meant to just be "fantasy parody adventure" rather than a concept applied to a fantasy world milked for all the fun it can be.

[Anonymous No.21231482]

>>21231459
Petty people with FAR too much power is always an enjoyable scenario, when played up properly (IE, not in the sense of being totally justifiable as they're powerful, moreso that they're impossible to deal with because they're so powerful). I should probably look into Black Company, honestly, it sounds fun.

[Anonymous No.21231509]

>>21231477
It still is a fantasy parody adventure; I don't know why you think the other books have it, they do.

[Anonymous No.21231512]

[Anonymous No.21231515]

>>21231512
You still shilling this garbage if a story?

[Anonymous No.21231528]

>>21231030
That sad and depressing thing about this is that people want the main characters to be literally them. I’ll never understand it and I’m happier for it.

[Anonymous No.21231534]

>>21230148
Never, you were memed, like all the retards who read webnovels and chinkshit

[Anonymous No.21231541]

Are there some fantasy books that manage to tread the line between grim dark suffering porn and happy-go-lucky no stakes? I want a story with actual stakes and losses as well as wins but I still want there to be hope for the characters.

[Anonymous No.21231547]

>>21231541
Yeah, check the charts in the OP

[Anonymous No.21231550]

>>21231528
Do you have iq of 50? What do you not understand? That people who read sff experience the story/adventure through the thoughts and actions of the main character?

[Anonymous No.21231558]

>>21226737
Three Body Problem is a different take on it, read the rest of the series if you like the first book, it gets better and better.

[Anonymous No.21231559]

>>21231541
Made in Abyss?

[Anonymous No.21231560]

>>21231559
An actually book, and not your gay comics.

[Anonymous No.21231561]

>>21231560

[Anonymous No.21231569]

>>21231550
He was just letting you know he's above that.

[Anonymous No.21231587]

>>21231561
guy is coming here asking for fantasy novels and you give him something unrelated to his question. The fuck did you expect he would react.

[Anonymous No.21231591]

>>21231558
I went into 3 Body Problem completely blind and thought it was about the world being a simulation for half of the book

[Anonymous No.21231607]

>>21231512
GET OUT OF HERE YOU DEMON!

[Anonymous No.21231658]

>>21231569
Is it really controversial to say that you don't want to read self-insert story?

[Anonymous No.21231688]

>>21231561
This isn’t /a/ retard, either recommend books or fuck off.

[Anonymous No.21231711]

>>21231550
You need to work on your reading comprehension, because my post just went over your head.

[Anonymous No.21231718]

>You ask that? You, who killed your mother to come into the world? You are an ill-made, devious, disobedient, spiteful little creature full of envy, lust and low cunning. Men's laws give you the right to bear my name and display my colors, since I cannot prove you are not mine. To teach me humility, the gods have condemned me to watch you waddle about wearing that proud lion that was my father's sigil and his father's before him. But neither gods nor men will ever compel me to let you turn Casterly Rock into your whorehouse.
Why can't other fantasy authors write dialogue like this?

[Anonymous No.21231723]

>>21231718
>Why can't other fantasy authors write dialogue like this?
They do, try reading more before making such an assertion.

[Anonymous No.21231728]

>>21231723
Only a handful at best.

[Anonymous No.21231735]

>>21231728
Then don't say they don't write dialogue like that.

[Anonymous No.21231752]

>>21231718
God, a song of ice and fire is fucking Kino. I always find myself rereading the entire series after I’m done with it.

[Anonymous No.21231770]

>>21231718
Then he gets killed by his dwarf of a son because he was too retarded to stop insulting him. Really makes me if wonder Tywin’s reputation was well deserved.

[Anonymous No.21231784]

>>21231770
>Really makes me if wonder Tywin’s reputation was well deserved.
If you actually take time to read the books, you will know that the reputation of Tywin was feigned. Dude was losing to Robb Stark, a boy that's a few years younger than his grandson. Not to mention the only reason why he won was because George had to make Robb and Stannis lose.

[Anonymous No.21231797]

>>21231718
I always like that people suck off Tywin for being this smart and pragmatic person, but he was no different than Tyrion and that he was just a psychopathic manchild who couldn’t stand getting mocked.

[Anonymous No.21231800]

>>21231784
I always felt that Robb winning battles against the Lannister forces was kind of bullshit, especially when he didn’t muster all of his forces.

[Anonymous No.21231828]

Looking for comfy fantasy recommendations. Hobbit tier but maybe leaning towards the first two Witcher books in maturity, storytelling and humor is always nice. Long-winded descriptions are fine as long as they paint a nice picture of the current setting, I listen to audiobooks in bed so it's almost preferable. Lore and exposition dumps are less liked in this regard as I wanna be transported to what's going on in the now.

[Anonymous No.21231829]

>>21231800
>I always felt that Robb winning battles against the Lannister forces was kind of bullshit
No, what was bullshit was the Lannister winning the war despite there being zero reasons to. Stannis should have taken King's landing.

[Anonymous No.21231832]

>>21231828
Check the chart in the OP.

[Anonymous No.21231849]

>>21231829
Yeah, I think Tywin getting info that Stannis was about to take King’s Landing and do a two-day march should have been handled better. Personally, I would have liked it if Stannis took the city. But you know, got to drag out the story somehow.

[Anonymous No.21231855]

>>21231849
>two-day march
See, it should have taken longer than that. Tywin was trying to cross the fords before being beaten back. No way he had the time to reach King's Landing with how far he was.

[Anonymous No.21231860]

>>21231828
Yeah, I’m not doing any of that, search that shit for yourself.

[Anonymous No.21231863]

>>21231550
>That people who read sff experience the story/adventure through the thoughts and actions of the main character?
What does that have to do with him not wanting to read main character that are supposed to be self-inserts? Maybe because I'm not autistic, but I don't see how wanting a story where the main characters can't have companions due to some readers not having any friends would be any good.

[Anonymous No.21231873]

>download this since i haven't heard of it and blurb sounds decent
>Rupert cursed resignedly, and swung awkwardly down from the saddle, his armor protesting loudly with every movement.
I fucking hate the fantasy genre so much guys

[Anonymous No.21231875]

>>21231534
RI was better than anything else I've been recommended by this thread.

[Anonymous No.21231876]

>>21231873
Literally was is the the issue? Other than you being a nitpicking bitch?

[Anonymous No.21231878]

>>21231875
You can stop pretending being someone else, its just getting sad at this point.

[Anonymous No.21231886]

>>21231878
Nothing is sadder than thinking you can identify anons on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.21231888]

>>21231876
>man 1: look there, a pile of dog shit there on the ground
>man 2: what's wrong with dog shit?
Good talk anon

[Anonymous No.21231889]

>>21231875
> RI was better than anything else
I’m sure if you keep spamming it, someone will be stupid enough to waste their time on it, other than that, try not to shit up the thread

[Anonymous No.21231890]

>>21231828
The Quest of Iranon

[Anonymous No.21231904]

>>21231889
>try not to shit up the thread
You should take your own advice and stop having jannie wannabe tantrums every time someone praises a book you don't like.

[Anonymous No.21231907]

>>21231873
>>Rupert cursed resignedly, and swung awkwardly down from the saddle, his armor protesting loudly with every movement.
Sentence is alright and serviceable, what's the issue?

[Anonymous No.21231910]

>RIbot throwing another tantrum since no one praises it’s shitty chink story
It’s tiresome.

[Anonymous No.21231912]

>>21231688
be more specific next time and I might try

[Anonymous No.21231916]

>>21231912
You’re in /lit/ fucking retard, a board dedicated for books. Go back to /a/ if you can’t even do that much.

[Anonymous No.21231923]

>>21231910
Have fun living a control freak's self-made hell, schizoanon.

>>21231541
Reverend Insanity is both too edgy and too uplifting at the same time for the average goyslop consumer, so it might be right up your alley. The pacing is on the slow side though.

[Anonymous No.21231928]

>>21231923
Yeah, reread the post again
>Are there some fantasy books

[Anonymous No.21231930]

>>21231928
Are wizards pursuing immortality not fantastical enough or something?

[Anonymous No.21231935]

>>21231930
He wants books, anon.

[Anonymous No.21231938]

>>21231935
Does he not own a printer?

[Anonymous No.21231939]

>>21231938
Can't you give him a serious answer?

[Anonymous No.21231941]

>>21231939
I already did. Can you?

[Anonymous No.21231950]

So, /sffg/ can’t even recommend books anymore? The fuck happened?

[Anonymous No.21231955]

>>21231941
>I already did
But you didn't?

[Anonymous No.21231957]

>>21231955
Before I clarify why you're wrong, why didn't you answer my question?

[Anonymous No.21231964]

>>21231541
>>21231950
Try Dungeon Crawler Carl. The MC is a cuckold and he and his magic talking cat get Rick from Rick and Morty as their mentor in surviving an anarcho-capitalist alien empire enslaving humanity. Seems right up your alley.

[Anonymous No.21231974]

>>21231541
Ignore made in abyss, ignore dungeon crawler Carl or whatever, and especially ignore that chinkshit Reverend insanity bullshit. Try reading The Knight of the sword by Michael Moorcock, the Witcher by Andrzej Sapkowski, the black company by Glen Cook, Elric by Micheal Moorcock. Hope this helps you.

[Anonymous No.21231991]

>>21231974
If you're going to make a bait list at least have the decency to include Bakker.

[Anonymous No.21231996]

>>21231991
At least I offered proper books for the poor guy. Don’t know why you guys decided to use that to fuck with him.

[Anonymous No.21232003]

>>21231996
Books? Looks like a bunch of goyslop to me. I don't see any books.

[Anonymous No.21232009]

>>21227523
have you read the dying earth? the first collection of short stories? its literally this.

[Anonymous No.21232032]

>>21225277
Wish they made a good film adaptation. And not fucking Tarkovsky's overrated dogshit.

[Anonymous No.21232036]

>>21232003
>Goyslop
Go back to Twitter, you buzzword using faggot.

[Anonymous No.21232047]

>>21231974
>The Knight of the sword by Michael Moorcock
Surprised to see the Corum Series mentioned here, its mostly Elric people talk about here.

[Anonymous No.21232052]

Can someone just leak it already?

[Anonymous No.21232053]

>>21232052
Just buy it.

[Anonymous No.21232062]

>>21232052
Sandersoi wrists are too weak to even type in utorrent in their webbrowsers

[Anonymous No.21232071]

>>21232053
already preordered, just want it earlier now that I'm seeing copies out in the wild.
>>21232062
no one's uploaded it anywhere, yet.

[Anonymous No.21232075]

>>21232071
Then just wait?

[Anonymous No.21232083]

>>21224370
i believe you mean big *anuses*

[Anonymous No.21232084]

>>21232052
It came out already? Fuck, I miss it.

[Anonymous No.21232085]

>Thread janny removes my post about wishing bakkerposting would stop
>Doesn't bother removing the usual bakkerspamming

This general is fucking trash.

[Anonymous No.21232088]

>>21230416
>Is it really bad?
Not at all. It's a great read but it's the first novel in the series and Pratchett doesn't settle into his style until Light Fantastic, which is the sequel and not an ideal starting place.

CoM for example is a bit of a fixup of 3 connected novels, fits in a shitload of world building it, isn't as focussed as it could be.

Equal Rights and Mort are the next in the series, but they're almost too focussed. So Sourcery is the next best choice to start.

But if you read it in the 80's you didn't have much choice, so CoM is still a good place to start.

[Anonymous No.21232096]

>>21232085
You the retard that doesn’t know how to use the report feature, so you make provocative posts?

[Anonymous No.21232105]

>>21232096
Reporting it doesn't stop it.

[Anonymous No.21232112]

>>21232105
Yeah, you that retard, either ignore it, filter it, or report the spam.

[Anonymous No.21232124]

>>21232105
>Reporting it doesn't stop it.
You always say this, but they always remove it, don't know why you keep on insisting on this lie.

[Anonymous No.21232126]

>>21232085
>NOOOOO NOT MY HECKING POST!!! WHY DOESNT THE JANNY DADDY REMOVE THE POSTS I WAAAANT!
Typical Sandersoi

[Anonymous No.21232131]

>>21232124
Bakkerfag always returns and continues to post. Proof that it doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.21232134]

>>21232131
Wow, anon, it's almost as if they get banned for 3 days. Fuck sakes don't even know why you're bitching about them, since you're whining just attracts them. So either be quiet or do what this anon >>21232112 tells you.

[Anonymous No.21232136]

>>21232131
>jannies don’t do anything
>Jannies remove them and ban them but they still come back
Then keep reporting them? It’ll be more helpful than you crying about it here, or god forbid, start a fight with them.

[Anonymous No.21232147]

>>21232088
Nice effort post, anon, wish there was more here.

[Anonymous No.21232149]

>>21232134
>>21232136
Shut up, dickless, useless, tranny janny faggot.

[Anonymous No.21232157]

>>21232088
I still like CoM, even it’s not like all the other books of the series. It just makes it stand out.

[Anonymous No.21232159]

>>21232149
I see you’re no different than them.

[Anonymous No.21232160]

>>21232088
>which is the sequel and not an ideal starting place.
Why isn't it an ideal starting place? I personally like it myself, but that could be just my bias talking.

[Anonymous No.21232161]

>>21232009
Yes, I recommend it ITT all the time. Although I was actually thinking of LOTR when I wrote that

[Anonymous No.21232162]

>>21232084
No, it did not.

[Anonymous No.21232198]

>>21232160
You could I suppose. Pratchett was that good an author. And by LF he's learnt to summarize his concepts, so instead of a page and a half on Twoflower being the Disc's first tourist (being an alien concept within the universe), he jusy says 'The disc's first tourist'. Almost trying to be too clever in CoM as Twoflower is really us, speaking english and everything, whereas Rincewind's first language is Morpokian (or something like that). It's quite meta and pithy for a fantasy book, but Prachett only got better.

[Anonymous No.21232339]

The shelf that saved /sffg/

[Anonymous No.21232351]

>>21232339
>wolfe
shit taste

[Anonymous No.21232353]

>>21232126
I've actually tried to read some Bakker, I've never read Sanderson.

[Anonymous No.21232488]

Gormengoober bros: do you find out much about the history of the Groan family? I'm halfway through book #2 and feel I know little of their history and of the history of the castle Gormenghast itself.

[Anonymous No.21232494]

>>21232488
>do you find out much about the history of the Groan family?
Yes, anon, by reading the novels

[Anonymous No.21232526]

New thread
>>21232524

[Anonymous No.21232565]

>>21231073
You are an evil cunt anon.

[Anonymous No.21232693]

>>21231541
Malazan maybe? It never feels like there's low stakes, but there's a lot of humor mixed in with the suffering and it's filled with themes of hope and compassion.