Male Effeminacy

[Anonymous No.21030853]

What are some books that will help me cope with being an effeminate male? No the 'go lift weights bro' advice won't help me I am EFFEMINATE. You should not recommend me philosophy either because I am a pseud and would probably only read the gossip around the philosopher's social life rather than the philosophy itself. I am also an extremely self conscious virgin who lays in bed all day fantasizing about getting DICKED. I cannot hold a job because I am unskilled and histrionic and would break under the pressure of being a working person. The only reason I am not a tranny is because I am not autistic and refuse to identify myself with low status people.

[Anonymous No.21030871]

>>21030853
>lays in bed all day fantasizing about getting DICKED
kek maybe you should get a bf who acts as a father figure to you

[Anonymous No.21030882]

>>21030853
Just chill out dude. Why does America make people like this.

[Anonymous No.21030885]

>>21030853
>No the 'go lift weights bro' advice won't help me I am EFFEMINATE
We don't care about your excuses you will read Starting Strength by Mark Ripetoe.

[Anonymous No.21030889]

>>21030853
>I am also an extremely self conscious virgin who lays in bed all day fantasizing about getting DICKED.
Wait, so you're just gay? That's simple then, read books for being a fag not for being effeminate (which is merely secondary).

[OP No.21030890]

>>21030871
IDK if I could ever actually be with a man. I would be extremely afraid and cry probably. In fact I steer clear from sexual matters because I do not feel sexual attraction for the most part.
>>21030882
Lol I'm leaving this year.
>>21030885
No I hate gym and lifting objects it's just so boring and stupid also I want other people to lift me instead. ;~;

[Anonymous No.21030891]

>>21030853
Just accept that you're a fag, OP. No one cares in 2022, in fact it's a significant social advantage. You're only going to get more miserable if you refuse to accept your true nature and dream of being a masculine person instead. It's not going to happen.
You're not missing out on much to be honest, modern women are demonic whores.

[Anonymous No.21030895]

>>21030853
go hunt boars and eat their raw liver

[Anonymous No.21030898]

Get off the internet, go lift, and read philosophy. You are not "effeminate" or "trans" or "gay" you are an oversocialized autistic pervert. Refer to the first sentence, and stop living off of diminishing short term dopamine hits

[Anonymous No.21030904]

>>21030853
>a glimpse into the lefty mind

[Anonymous No.21030905]

>>21030890
become the lift you want to see in the world bro

[OP No.21030909]

>>21030889
I'm not 'just' gay it it's far more complicated than that. I most certainly DO NOT share my sexuality with gay men and I have never identified with them in my life.
>>21030891
I just want to be normal.
>>21030898
Excuse me sir I am NOT a pervert and I can easily go one year without masturbating and often go a month or two at a time. I am not 'oversocialized', I am the opposite of that I am a hermit and I stear clear from 'socialization' because I am an anxious mess.
>and stop living off of diminishing short term dopamine hits
But this is sound advice.

I cannot read philosophy I am too stupid and shallow for it.

>>21030904
You don't know my politics.

[Anonymous No.21030912]

>>21030853
Start by leaving retardville aka 4chan and get a good dickdown

[Anonymous No.21030913]

>>21030898
> go lift, and read philosophy
This advice is on par with "read self-help books". It's a modern myth that idiots cling to.

[OP No.21030914]

>>21030909
Steer clear*
:(

[OP No.21030918]

>>21030912
How? I am afraid of men.

[Anonymous No.21030920]

>>21030853
Just accept it and get over it.

[Anonymous No.21030921]

>>21030909
>Excuse me sir I am NOT a pervert and I can easily go one year without masturbating and often go a month or two at a time
Then what do you do all day?

[Anonymous No.21030922]

I think you're confusing effeminacy (hate that term; it feels 1950s psychiatrist language) with being scared of everything.

[Anonymous No.21030931]

>>21030853
Not the first nor the last. Who cares?

[OP No.21030934]

>>21030921
I play out fictional scenarios in my head and act them out. I sing and I dance alone and I cry. Sometimes I try to pick up new hobbies but I always fail because I have no discipline.
>>21030922
Okay but to them that is simply effeminacy.
>>21030931
I want to be loved.

[Anonymous No.21030942]

>>21030934
What are you anxious about specifically ?

[Anonymous No.21030948]

>>21030934
I'm 100% sure you're underage

[Anonymous No.21030951]

>>21030853
You're not effeminate, you're just a baby, there's a slight difference

[OP No.21030954]

>>21030942
Everything. It is a pathology that cannot be helped. I cannot even go to a grocery store without rehearsing my lines in advance and making myself somewhat presentable. It cannot be autism because people think I've very friendly!
>>21030948
WRONG. I'm 21 and I have been on here for 6+ years. Still cancer yes, but not a complete newfag either.

[OP No.21030956]

>>21030951
What's the difference, anon?

[Anonymous No.21030957]

>>21030853
Meditate and realize your innermost nature to be pure spirit neither effeminate nor manly. Quit fantasy, be one with pure spirit, turn your face to it.

[Anonymous No.21030959]

>>21030954
Lift faggot lift. you need the T boost

[Anonymous No.21030962]

>>21030890
>lifting objects it's just so boring and stupid

The faggot is unironically correct

[Anonymous No.21030963]

>>21030959
Correct diet and nutrition too. Healthy stomach healthy mind

[Anonymous No.21030973]

>>21030934
>I play out fictional scenarios in my head and act them out. I sing and I dance alone and I cry. Sometimes I try to pick up new hobbies but I always fail because I have no discipline.
It does have anything to do with effeminacy. You just to scared what others might think of you, when they simply don't care. So your problem is just anxiety.

[OP No.21030984]

>>21030957
3 years ago I was into the Guenon meme as well as perennialism... but it's not my time to be initiated. In my next life for sure though...~
>>21030959
I don't want to 'lift weights' That's so ew and boring and I don't want to be strong. I prefer being physically weak actually.
>>21030963
Ok that I won't deny I eat too many tendies.
>>21030973
I know that no one cares but I care IMMENSELY. That's the issue! I also need someone I trust near me to talk to other people for me while I just nod and smile.

[Anonymous No.21030991]

>>21030909
>I am the opposite of that I am a hermit and I stear clear from 'socialization' because I am an anxious mess.
yo don't know what oversocialized means. an unsocialized person wouldn't care what others think, he'd throw poop at them and masturbate publicly.

[OP No.21030993]

>>21030991
I did not claim to be unsocialized I denied that I was oversocialized.

[Anonymous No.21030995]

>>21030993
i never claimed you are unsocialized either

[Anonymous No.21031003]

>>21030984
>I don't want to 'lift weights'
You don't have to lift that's just part of the meme, what you need to do is boost your athletic fitness somehow. This will improve your life and your mental health. I guarantee it.

[OP No.21031004]

>>21030995
You have made an error in your communication. Please try again,

[Anonymous No.21031010]

/lit/ is not your blog, fag.

[OP No.21031012]

>>21031003
I don't want to be fit anon I just want to be skinny and weak ;-;

Surprisingly my mental health is quite well other than my anxiety. I cope with it just fine day to day.

[OP No.21031015]

>>21031010
I know it's not. I want just attention. But not in the super duper obvious way. Will u be my friend anon?

[Anonymous No.21031016]

>>21030956
Femininity can be charming and cute, you're hysterical and annoying

[Anonymous No.21031021]

>>21030918
Get a female to peg you first then

[Anonymous No.21031023]

>>21031004
literally OP

[Anonymous No.21031025]

>>21031012
Your anxiety is directly connected with you being skinny and weak

[Anonymous No.21031028]

>>21031004
>you: I am the opposite of oversocialized
>me: the opposite of that wouldn't be axious
ergo: you are not that

[OP No.21031041]

>>21031016
:'(
>>21031021
idk how
>>21031023
Yes please explain what you need clarified .
>>21031025
I don't mind my anxiety I have just learned to live with it. It's very good at keeping me safe. :')
>>21031028
Aha! When I said the 'opposite' of 'over socialized' I simply meant that in hyperbole. Not quite literally the opposite! Silly anon!

[Anonymous No.21031044]

>>21031004

youre a fag

[OP No.21031057]

>>21031044
Anon I can't help it.

[Anonymous No.21031077]

>>21030909
>I most certainly DO NOT share my sexuality with gay men and I have never identified with them in my life.
You may not realise it, but you're gay. Maybe it is more complicated than that, but it seems you're only attracted to men and you're effeminate whoop-de-doo. I dunno just go to a hooker until you understand some of the heterosexual male bed ropes.

Firstly stop thinking about sex on the regular (the first step of that is cease your masturbating). Follow the basic virtues (bravery, selflessness, etc.) so they're integrated into your being. Develop real values and not just personal excoriating as your inner life. Hopefully at some point you realise the real value of manhood, that is, realised from deep within yourself. As something essential.

[Anonymous No.21031087]

>this whole thread
Holy shit OP is a goldmine of keks. Bet he bites the bullet and transitions by 25

[Anonymous No.21031091]

>>21030853
Bro.
If you are genuine effeminate, born this way, aka gay, and you seem to be, there's nothing it can be done about it.
Even Julius Evola, le hypermasculine le virility le tradition writer agrees on this point.
Just get your life started with a man, take care of yourself and do not become a total degenerate.
You don't need to become a tranny either, people have been fags for centuries without cutting their dicks off. And you don't even need to become a totally annoying fag either, you can be a normal homosexual. The fact that you don't like the cringy LGBT modern culture is a good thing'
On the other hand, on the less than 1% chance you haven't been born this way (I doubt it. Usually guys who are emasculated due to societal abuse, constriction, trauma etc have a very different way of writing, have different fetishes - humiliation, cuckholding, and the likes - and in general have an intense masculine feeling to them, it just feels buried) you can fix it by learning to relax and meditate, and get in touch with your deepest personal self available, and discover what you truly need and want to be.
I'll explain what that means and why it probably doesn't apply to you: for most guys of the second type, a lot of masculine inclination is either consciously or subconsciously repressed due to societal/family programming: ironically all the stuff a 12 year old would find cool, there is a mental block inside that makes them hate themselves for wanting to do it, either because they feel they are not worth it, or because society imprinted them with the idea that it's bad.
You don't seem to be like that, you seem like you're a genuine fag born with a female brain who is forcing himself to be something he isn't because he grew up in a culture where fags are (somewhat deservingly) despises. Again, you don't need to become a tranny or a left tard subhuman to be yourself.
In any case, whether you are type 1 or type 2, read the courage to be dislikes and Mishima's books.

[Anonymous No.21031105]

Narziss and Goldmund
Crime and Punishment (maybe more eye-opening, if he is effeminate, he tries to reject it)
Catcher in the Rye

I don't think all feature particularly effeminate protagonists, but in some sense they all have vulnerable, emotional male lead characters - and they're good books.

Have you thought about seeking therapy? Seems like you don't really know who you are. How was your father (figure)? Your childhood? Maybe you seek something that was/is missing. Or maybe you're well adjusted and in tune with your feelings but just lonely..?

[Anonymous No.21031107]

>>21031091
PS: stop whining about not wanting to lift weights. That's not being effeminate, that'a being a lazy retard.
Not only gay men, even girls fucking go to the gym.
It's part of taking care of yourself, your health and your appearance regardless of your identity and sexuality.
PPS: this thread settles the Evolachuds (PBUT) and guenon(literal)fags debate, it seems

[OP No.21031128]

>>21031077
I am not attracted to men either though I just fantasize about being 'taken' by one. Perhaps in my OP I was too sexual so I apologize for that though the fantasy would essentially develop in that direction and so I just decided to be blunt about in the OP. In real life I am not attracted to anyone really. I am not going to visit a prostitute because it is against my moral principles to do so. I will cease masturbation but it's not as if it would be a particular challenge for me. I intend to obey basic virtue as much as my strength allows me to and endeavor to behave nobly among all whom I come across.
>>21031087
No I will not do as the trannies say to me: 'take yours pills Alice'. I was born onto this earth as a man and I will die as one.
>>21031091
No it's okay anon I am not forcing myself to be anything I am not. I do not pretend to be 'masculine'. I try to fake it but I fail and I just get made fun of by everyone and it makes me very sad. I have deliberately made an effort to avoid politics in my discussion because I wanted to just go on a gay rant, but I have Mussolini's Opera Omnia in my bookshelf.
>>21031107
Yes but I take care of my appearance by restricting calories and being extremely skinny because I like that look and I think it's cute.

[OP No.21031140]

>>21031105
Thank you for the literature suggestions anon!
I know who I am actually and I have very concrete goals in which I aim to achieve I am just really slow and bad at actually doing stuff because of my lack of discipline. I had good relationship with father but now he is dead.

Yes I am lonely sometimes but that is my fault because I do not make an effort to not be lonely and I usually do not mind it.

[Anonymous No.21031146]

>>21031128
There have been fascist fags, although rare. Be yourself even if most of them will despise you. It doesn't have to be either X or Y. What I'm telling you is that most of your issues are unrelated to whatever faggotry you have. You are lazy all around.
Fuck man I met even fucking lesbian fascists, who unironically wanted a male oriented spartan-like society.
What you need to do is stop looking for excuses for being a lazy retard

[Anonymous No.21031162]

>>21030934
>I play out fictional scenarios in my head and act them out. I sing and I dance alone and I cry. Sometimes I try to pick up new hobbies but I always fail because I have no discipline.
>>21031128
>I have Mussolini's Opera Omnia in my bookshelf
Would you like to be my bf?

[Anonymous No.21031174]

op you can be an effeminate gay guy and still lift weights. the hugest dudes in nyc are always gay guys who spend all day in the gym.

[OP No.21031187]

>>21031146
I don't wish to discuss politics at this moment. I only brought up Mussolini as a model of masculinity to emulate since you brought up Evola. My 'issue' is my failure to perform the archetypal masculine social role. You have told me to accept this, but then you called me 'lazy'. But accepting myself would also mean accepting my 'laziness'. What you characterize as 'laziness' is simply my failure to perform the masculine social role.
>>21031162
Okay but be warned I will ghost you. (by accident)
>>21031174
Yeah those dudes aren't effeminate though!

[Anonymous No.21031188]

>>21031174
This. The only really swole guys in Berlin are the leather-fetish gays as well

[Anonymous No.21031190]

>>21031187
>Okay but be warned I will ghost you. (by accident)
Oh don't worry, I'll ghost you before you manage to ghost me :)

[Anonymous No.21031194]

>>21031187
Yeah, what I'm telling you is that you are wrong.
I come from Italy. My grandma was a very hard working woman, and so were most women through history.
Your confusion of your personal responsibilities and discipline (probably brought up by years of neeting around, mentally masturbating) and the societal role that isn't made for you is causing you these issues.
So yeah, stop coping, faggot.

[Anonymous No.21031198]

>>21031194
>Italian
>talking about hard work
The joke basically writes itself

[Anonymous No.21031203]

>>21031198
welp I'm not technically "italian"

[OP No.21031213]

>>21031188
I do NOT want to look like that I enjoy being 52kg thank you.
>>21031190
Do you want to play By Blood Alone DLC together when it comes out? It's Italy themed!
>>21031194
I do not doubt your grandmother was a hard working woman nor do I deny women have always been handworkers throughout history—what I deny is that hard work is itself a virtue. What do you suggest that I do, anon!? Secure regular employment? My ancestors would call that slavery.
>>21031203
el ogro de las americas?

[Anonymous No.21031221]

>>21031213
No, Sardinian.

[OP No.21031224]

>>21031221
I've met some people who thought the risorgimento was a mistake. How do you feel?

[Anonymous No.21031229]

>>21031213
Why do you put the emphasis on being weak and cute? Does looking like a man disgusts you?

[OP No.21031243]

>>21031229
Disgust certainly isn't the right word. Its a matter of taste, and also how I am. For example my relationship with body hair is almost pathological. I will get that lasered.

[Anonymous No.21031247]

>>21031224
They are right, it was mostly an enslavement of the people who were part of the Italian peninsula + isles to the british branch of Rothschilds.
>>21031213
You don't need to be a wagie, but staying on your room all day whining is no way to live life for anyonr

[Anonymous No.21031249]

>>21030853
I'd rape you till you got your shit together, desu. How big's your dick?

[OP No.21031270]

>>21031247
I will stay in my room all day pampering myself and maybe teach myself a craft like sewing. My prince charming will come one day, certainly~~ <3 I am sure of it!
>>21031249
No. I will cry.

[Anonymous No.21031279]

>>21031270
I hope you're masturbating with a huge piece of silicone up your arse as you write this because otherwise it's jjust embarrassing

[Anonymous No.21031281]

>>21031270
If you started sewing you would be in a better state your in now.
But you sound like too much of a retarded faggot to do what most women were able to do for millenia and what a lot of women (even my gf lol) are able to do in 2022.
Will you prove me wrong?

[OP No.21031288]

>>21031279
No I am snuggled in my bed enjoying a hot cocoa. I was reading a pdf off my tablet but I was suddenly enveloped with feelings of grief so I made a 4chan post to vent.

[Anonymous No.21031297]

>>21030909
>I just want to be normal
>refuses all advice about doing normal things
You deserve your life

[Anonymous No.21031307]

>>21030853
This is what Marxists don't understand, the poor are doing just fine in their slums and favelas, they' don't need flushing toilets or clean water, and midwit men and women genuinely love their jobs, rather the great tragedy isn't world poverty or the idea of wage labor itself, it's that sensitive femboys have to go outside and interact with the plebs and even work for a living rather than spending long afternoons reading novels and staring wistfully out of rain smeared windows.

[Anonymous No.21031318]

>>21030885
>I embrace the homosexual aesthetics but I really really love women i swear

physical well being is done through healthy food and walking. beyond this shows that you either do it because
-you are bored, aka a failure
-you try to fulfill some power fantasy, sign of betacuckness
-you are a homo, aka a failure
-you do it for women, aka a man devoted to please women even if you claim otherwise, like all men, aka a failure
-you cling to your health, aka a failure living in fear of death

=>you are a pleb as soon as you lift.

[OP No.21031325]

>>21031281
Yeah I agree but it's so hard and I'm afraid of starting. I have a sewing machine and everything I even have 40 meters of cotton just sitting here but I would have to draft a pattern of something simple, maybe a blouse or something. I am actually missing pins, and I should get some of those because I would rather not stitch when the fabric is not held together in place. I am sorry for being stupid anon I am inept at all things practical. It took me 20 years to learn how to cut things properly. My motor functions are not the most pristine.
>>21031297
My life is actually quite fine. It's uneventful, sometimes lonely.
>>21031307
I do not consider working people plebs and I treat them with great respect and dignity as they deserve it they are noble in their hard work and it is their virtue. However, it is not mine.

[Anonymous No.21031348]

>>21031325
>My life is actually quite fine. It's uneventful, sometimes lonely.
Then why are you shitting up the board with your attention whoring. Almost everyone's life is uneventful and lonely

[OP No.21031353]

>>21031348
I hope it's not lonely since we're together now anon! *hug*

[Anonymous No.21031385]

>>21030853
>would probably only read the gossip around the philosopher's social life rather than the philosophy itself
Ok you really are effeminate

[Anonymous No.21031389]

>>21031353
Back off, I'm not going to fuck you

[Anonymous No.21031390]

>>21030904
kek

[OP No.21031403]

>>21031389
It's only a virtual hug to keep your spirits high. It was not a sexual advance get your mind out of the gutter.

[Anonymous No.21031448]

>the whole thread is about OP
>OP just made a thread to talk about xerself
>not actually looking for books because xe knows xe has a woman brain
Checks out

[OP No.21031458]

>>21031448
No you can give me a book suggestion especially philosophy if it's something new but I am not interested in the history of philosophy or other abstractions.

[Anonymous No.21031466]

>>21030853
Elémire Zolla, The Androgyne

[OP No.21031472]

>>21031466
Holy shit this is actually perfect thank you.

[Anonymous No.21031477]

>>21030853
Stay out of peoples way. There is little worse than seeing an effeminate man struggling with basic competency. Stay away from traditonal male spaces too.

[OP No.21031485]

>>21031477
I will beat you in Hearts of Iron. I am trying to learn how to play Gary Grigsbys War in the East 2 but it is has a 500 page manual.

[Anonymous No.21031487]

>be OP
>be a faggot
Checks out

[Anonymous No.21031489]

>>21031213
>Do you want to play By Blood Alone DLC together when it comes out? It's Italy themed!
Eww, no, I don't play modern (((vidya))).

[OP No.21031490]

>>21031489
What do you play then anon?

[Anonymous No.21031493]

>>21031490
Bitches emotions and the irs you homo.

[OP No.21031496]

>>21031493
Is that a fulfilling life?

[Anonymous No.21031502]

>>21030882
>Muh amuhricuh!!
Rent free

[Anonymous No.21031511]

>>21030853
The more time a man spends in his room or his apartment, the less of a man he is. It is an inverse correlation between “time spent within comfort of bedroom” and “patheticness”.
Sayings like “go outside” and “touch grass” are true. Literally just find a backpack, throw a phone charger in it, two books, a ball cap, and a water bottle, a journal and pen, and a granola bar, and walk four hours away. Read the whole way or podcasts or silence or bring a friend. Then when you get somewhere, write a bit, turn around, and head home. Stop being inside, it’s literally killing you.
Benefits:
>get tan
>lose weight from walking
>least injurious activity
>mental fortitude gains
>vitamin D gains
>life experience gains by seeing new things
>don’t atrophy and don’t remain weak
>fixes you

[Anonymous No.21031523]

>>21031490
Mostly old-fashioned strategy games such as HoMM and Civilisation, though even those don't interest me much anymore. Also I'm not >>21031493
It's pathetic and contradictory to see "traditionalists" playing and caring about the newest vidya.

[OP No.21031528]

>>21031511
>get tan
No my skin must be like porcelain.
>lose weight
I am underweight
>vitamin D
The sunlight ages your skin and I want to keep that at a minimum.

However, I do agree it's good to stay in movement. So that's why I get activity from doing other things, like doing chores for example. I don't want to go outside though.

[OP No.21031530]

>>21031523
Give new vidya a try it's not all bad. You are stuck in the early 2000s.

[Anonymous No.21031532]

The Last Man.

[OP No.21031538]

>>21031532
What does this have to do with me?

[Anonymous No.21031553]

Confessions of a mask then do calisthenics to be a homo facist

[OP No.21031668]

>>21031553
I don't appreciate Mishima's nihilism. His tradition may be defeated but his people were not dead. No one just took him seriously because his entire 'coup' was theatrics and not serious.

[Anonymous No.21031681]

>>21031668
Hes literally just like me
All theatrics and aesthetics

[Anonymous No.21031688]

Myra Breckinridge and Myron by Vidal

[Anonymous No.21031697]

>>21031538
The last man is the archetypal passive nihilist. He is tired of life, takes no risks, and seeks only comfort and security.

An accurate description of you. You lie in bed dreaming of dangerous acts but refuse to take a risk and try them. Thankfully you will probably live your life without any event and your passing will not be marked. Though the acts you dream of are sickening to me.

[OP No.21031698]

>>21031681
Marinetti was the superior homofash. Unfortunately I not know either Italian or French so I can't read what he originally wrote. He even volunteered for the Eastern Front at the age of 62.

Not that I have any empirical evidence Marinetti was a homo- but I know how to read in between the lines. In fact I think it's rather obvious and staring you into the face.
>>21031688
Ty

[OP No.21031702]

>>21031697
Comfort and security does not mean life denial and rejecting life though. Cannot comfort not be life affirming?

[OP No.21031704]

>>21031702
>Cannot comfort not be life affirming?
Can one not affirm life through their comfort?*

[Anonymous No.21031738]

>>21031702
You are the archtype of the Last Man, you can not even engage in destructive behavior for fear of the world.

>only read the gossip around the philosopher's social life rather than the philosophy itself.
>an extremely self conscious virgin who lays in bed all day fantasizing
>cannot hold a job
>i am unskilled and histrionic
>would break under the pressure of being a working person
>The only reason I am not a tranny is because
>I am not autistic
>refuse to identify myself with low status people

You are the lowest status of person ranking below the most autistic tranny. You are below any status and i hope this motivates you to be better.

[Anonymous No.21031757]

>>21030913
>This advice is on par with "read self-help books". It's a modern myth that idiots cling to.
He said, not having lifted or read philosophy
>>21030909
>Excuse me sir I am NOT a pervert
Yes you are
>I am not 'oversocialized', I am the opposite of that I am a hermit and I stear clear from 'socialization' because I am an anxious mess
Get over yourself and go outside. Pussy. Oversocialization isn't about talking with people too much, it's being conditioned
>I cannot read philosophy I am too stupid and shallow for it.
You are a pussy. You make excuses for yourself because deep down you like being miserable, and don't want to improve. You are a failure

[OP No.21031769]

>>21031738
Are Socrates and Plato good people to emulate? Their society was conquered after the Peloponnesian wars, no?
>>21031757
Please explain how I am a pervert and please explain how I am conditioned as to be 'over socialized'.
> You make excuses for yourself because deep down you like being miserable
I did not say I was miserable, nor do I enjoy wallowing in self pity. I said I don't touch philosophy because I know philosophy is for smart people and I will only muddy the waters in the great philosophical tradition so it's best that I steer clear of it and leave it to the geniuses (which I am obviously not.)

I am a pussy, though. I have no excuses for it. I simply am. I cannot change my instinct.

[Anonymous No.21031780]

>>21030853
Read A Rebours and embrace the decadent lifestyle

[Anonymous No.21031789]

>>21031004
lol

[Anonymous No.21031793]

>>21030853
from the looks of this post being effeminate should be a lot farther down on your coping list
how about worrying about the rest of your totally fucked irredeemable life

[OP No.21031796]

>>21031793
What is the 'totally fucked irredeemable' part, anon?

[Anonymous No.21031803]

>>21031796
>can't/won't read philosophy
>can't/won't exercise
>can't/won't hold a job
>just sits in bed all day
yea bro being effeminate is your real issue here

[OP No.21031817]

>>21031803
But your greentext to describe me is what is characterized as 'effeminate' behavior is it not?

[Anonymous No.21031824]

>>21030890
>IDK if I could ever actually be with a man. I would be extremely afraid and cry probably. In fact I steer clear from sexual matters because I do not feel sexual attraction for the most part.
>>21030909
>I most certainly DO NOT share my sexuality with gay men and I have never identified with them in my life.
>I just want to be normal.
>Excuse me sir I am NOT a pervert and I can easily go one year without masturbating and often go a month or two at a time. I am not 'oversocialized', I am the opposite of that I am a hermit and I stear clear from 'socialization' because I am an anxious mess.
You are unironically trans.

[OP No.21031832]

>>21031824
Doesn't matter. I was born a man and I will die a man. The structure of my psyche makes no difference as to what is biological reality,

[Anonymous No.21031840]

>>21031318
>strength has no effect on your manipulation of the physical world around you or anything related to labor, its just about aesthetics.

You are probably very fucking ugly. Ive never heard someone be resentful about weightlifting because people who do it "fail". You understand its one thing you do in a multidisplinary system? Its not like people who only lift weights cant eat well and walk you fucking retard. It takes like 5 hours of your time a week.

[Anonymous No.21031852]

>>21030853
What is your plan, don't you have to hold a job at some point?

[Anonymous No.21031855]

>>21030962
Yet it has better more tangible results than people that read 12 or more philosophy books a year, more useful, and takes less time.

[OP No.21031865]

>>21031840
>>21031855
I just wanted to put this out here because I did not speak in favor in working out but I care immensely about bodily aesthetics and the like.
>>21031852
I took Trumpbux and Bidenbux as soon as I got out of school and am planning to run away to Europe. I am living off of that. The money will eventually dry up.

[Anonymous No.21031905]

>>21030853
>lays in bed all day fantasizing about getting DICKED
Please describe to me your fantasy in more depth please.

[Anonymous No.21031916]

>>21031817
even women attempt to do these things you fucking retard
you've used femininity as a static, immutable anchor point (even though it isn't, you could change that to if you wanted) to associate with all your other failings so that they to become immutable so you that you're no longer in control and therefore no longer responsible for them
get a grip!

[Anonymous No.21031922]

>>21031817
no, women aren't NEET losers like that. This is not about gender.
Youre merely a cripple of some sort.
What do you plan on doing in Europe? Making a living wage is more difficult there, I hope you have a good game plan and some sort of employment waiting for you there.

[Anonymous No.21031924]

>>21030853
i don't browse /lit/ but this just happened to be the first thread to pop into my face lmao
>lays in bed all day fantasizing about getting DICKED
Brother i think you're unironically homosexual or bisexual, not effeminate, well unless you're also a trans... unlikely but possible.
>No the 'go lift weights bro' advice won't help me
Why not? state your problem clearly, do you get social anxiety from gyms or what?

t. /sci/ tourist

[Anonymous No.21031930]

>>21031832
Well, you seem to want to be perceived as feminine.

[Anonymous No.21031957]

>>21030853
Fake & Sage

[Sage No.21031970]

>>21031957
>Sage
You just bumped the thread. I think you have to do it like this.

[OP No.21031979]

>>21031905
It involves rape and I am on the receiving end of it.
>>21031916
No I said you stated effeminacy is the least of my issues, and then you greentext the list of my issues which essentially amount to
>illogical
>inactive
>passive
I use my effeminacy as casualty to explain these faults. I do not refer to femininity as a static immutable anchor point but an essence and form which I encapsulate.
>>21031922
NEET loser is one way of looking at it I suppose. I am a NEET in the pure technical meaning of the world but I prefer thinking of myself as a ~bohemian-shut-in~ ;)
Yes I am a cripple in that I am not good with business and economy, machines, or any other cold non-human entities.
I don't know what I'm going to do in Europe. I will figure it out there.
>>21031924
No I don't have a problem I am simply effeminate. That is a fact that I have accepted. I am just anxious in general but I am okay with it.
>>21031930
Yes but also no.
>>21031957
Why am I fake explain. Also learn 2 sage newfag.

[Anonymous No.21032001]

/lit/ - Literature

[OP No.21032008]

>>21032001
I'm sorry anon but I at least contribute to the actual literature threads... sometimes. ;-;

[Anonymous No.21032019]

>>21031979
>I use my effeminacy as casualty to explain these faults.
Then you've made a false equivalence so that you don't have to address your
>illogical
>inactive
>passive
tendencies (two of which are just synonyms)
>No I don't have a problem I am simply effeminate.
And there it is, exactly what I described
you're beyond help and should probably actually unironically kys

[Anonymous No.21032021]

What if I have an internal desire to be feminine but externally I am too paralyzed to do so. I just cannot bring myself to do it, the embarrassment is too great. I envy fags like op a lot who can just be naturally effeminate males.

I cannot live like this, denying all of my desires, but I am unable to proceed.

[Anonymous No.21032041]

>>21031769
>am a pussy, though. I have no excuses for it. I simply am. I cannot change my instinct
You absolutely can, you just don't want to. And the fact that you think this way is proof you're not worth talking to. No matter what advice someone will give you, you'll never deem it right. And even if you do, you'll never follow through. You are wasted. A failure before you even started because you have that outlook.

[OP No.21032064]

>>21032019
Sorry for using two synonyms I am tired I pulled an all nighter by accident this thread is 6 hours old. I don't quite understand what you are saying here. Passive and illogical tendencies are not associated with the 'feminine' form? You can make an argument for that. Which form do they belong to then, or is masculine and feminine a false dichotomy?

Why should I kill myself? What did I do wrong?

>>21032041
>You absolutely can, you just don't want to
> And even if you do, you'll never follow through
Okay now all you did was call me a pussy a second time. You already called me that in your last response and I admitted to it and you just called me that again. Which one is it? because you can't seem to make up your mind on it either.

[OP No.21032073]

>>21032021
What 'feminine' things do you want to do but are unable to do?

[Anonymous No.21032084]

>>21032073
Dress faggily, date men, bake cookies for my friends, generally like cutesy shit. Mostly, I just don’t want to be this fucking skinwalker abomination, adopting an outward persona that I don’t feel represents my inner self at all.

[Anonymous No.21032090]

>>21032021
pls tell me who made this abstract pepe? is it also AI generated

[Anonymous No.21032101]

>>21032090
Yes, it’s AI generated.

[OP No.21032109]

>>21032084
Why don't you dress how you want to dress and bake cookies? Find a more accepting group? Also I am not openly effeminate it's just that it leaks into everything I do. I dress rather conservatively and am just made fun of for being feminine in general for as long as I can remember. For example, people always 'joke' and say I should get a boyfriend, but I never talk about that sort of thing with anyone and keep it private, which is what makes them assume things in the first place!

[Anonymous No.21032113]

>>21032084
I'd like to taste your cookies

[Anonymous No.21032141]

OP is a literal faggot

[Anonymous No.21032266]

>>21030871
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.21032278]

>>21032113
yes cocks, haha sorry i meant cocks, oh my god sorry i just meant cocks, so sorry i meant cocks, i mean cocks i mean cocks

[Anonymous No.21032339]

>>21031188
>>21031174
kek tells a lot about people wanting to look like a lump of muscle

[Anonymous No.21032362]

>>21031243
maybe you have autoandrophobia
http://walkingnaked.weebly.com/blog/autoandrophobia-a-pet-theory

[OP No.21032424]

>>21032362
Doubtful, I do not have a phobia of my own genitals. I am just afraid of being courted. If and when that day will come.

[Anonymous No.21032445]

>>21031979
>It involves rape and I am on the receiving end of it.
I thought you said you're not a pervert you fucking liar.

[Anonymous No.21032457]

>>21030853
>no go lifting weights bro
So you want to stop being effeminate but you don’t want to take actions to make that come true? It increases testosterone, anon. You can read 10 000 books, but if you don’t actually get up and do something about your situation you’ll always be a faggot.

[Anonymous No.21032462]

This thread reminds me that I need to get back to the gym, fuck I'm fat now.

[OP No.21032473]

>>21032457
Why would I get muscle I want to be dainty and easy to pick up. I said I AM an effeminate faggot, not that I want to change being one. Not that I even can, anyway.

[Anonymous No.21032474]

>>21031140
Do you go to school, do you live in your childhood bedroom, how the fuck do you live?

[Anonymous No.21032477]

>>21032473
So is the life you have now the one you desire or not? If it is, then why do you need to ’cope’? Is the good life not something that is desired?

[OP No.21032479]

>>21032474
I am living off covidbux which will dry out in like 1 year.