What is the solution to the "Faustian Man"?

[Anonymous No.20978562]

Please don't say death and damnation.

[Anonymous No.20978636]

>>20978562
That's an easy one: Singularity.

[Anonymous No.20978672]

The question displays a misunderstanding of the ideas put forward in the book.

[Anonymous No.20978878]

>>20978672
I guess I'll expand on this because I realized it's not helpful.

Faustian man is not a problem to be solved in 2022 A.D. any more than Roman man was a problem to be solved in 22 B.C. Faustian man is a particular type of man that expresses a particular tendency as the result of belonging to a particular civilization, which itself belongs to a particular world-historical epoch. He is not something that can be solved, only killed.

[Anonymous No.20978969]

>>20978878
>only killed

>>20978562
>don't say death

anon pls

[Anonymous No.20978975]

>>20978878
>only killed.
Die out or replaced? Like Roman was replaced.
That seems to be the question. Like asking what comes after post modernist literature.
For that, why not look to Nietzsche’s mensch?

[Strange Love No.20979103]

>>20978562

>What is the solution to the "Faustian Man"?

Totally committing to it.

[Anonymous No.20979139]

>>20978562
death and damnation.

[Anonymous No.20979164]

>>20979139
That’s just your future, anon.

[Anonymous No.20979311]

>>20978975
He doesn't think a culture can really be replaced. A culture either runs out of steam and lives on indefinitely without further world-historical significance or it's killed. The Romans were not replaced so much as they gradually died and a new culture was born with the Franks. He thought that the only nascent culture at the time of writing existed in Russia, so in that sense, Russia could end up being to the West what the Franks were to the Romans. He also said that Western technics could have catastrophic ends and that the West could be the first civilization to just commit suicide. Ads for what comes after post-modernism, assuming Spengler's morphology, it's something not post-modern but decidedly beyond modernism entirely. He didn't really write in these philosophical terms. He addresses Nietzsche in the book and points out where he was wrong about Christianity and Western culture and basically says that Nietzsche was important but very much a man of his time and place. He also talked about the German mistake of idealizing the Greeks, which he considered an error.

[Anonymous No.20979337]

>>20979311
Translation: “oh, I don’t know.”
Okay

[Anonymous No.20979347]

>>20979337
I answered all your questions correctly. The Nazis drew from Nietzsche and Spengler thought the Nazis were a complete disaster.

[Anonymous No.20979371]

>>20979347
Please boil down Spengler's critique of the Nazis into a single humorous sentence.

Also, does /lit/ have a Spengler reader's guide yet?

[Anonymous No.20979384]

>>20979347
Naw, it was “he doesn’t think culture can be replaced, cept yeah, later on when one gets in there to replace it as dominant, while the older one is sort of retired “ like that. Just dancing around it. It’s okay.

[Anonymous No.20979395]

>>20979371
Spengler on Hitler:
>“a heroic tenor, not a hero… A dreamer, a numbskull, a man without ideas, without strength of purpose, in a word: stupid”

The primary book is Decline of the West. I don't think a reader's guide is needed, and most charts or infographics floating around out there have mistakes.

[Anonymous No.20979409]

>>20979384
There is no "getting in there". There's no replacement. For Spengler, the rise of cultures is closely tied to a land and the religion that arises out of it. Any new culture that arises is not a replacement, but something almost entirely new, on different soil, with a different religion. The renaissance centers of influence
which were largely in Northern Italy and not Rome and which had their cultural roots in the Gothic between the Loire and the Rhine North of the Alps wasn't a replacement for the Roman. It was something entirely different.

[Anonymous No.20979536]

>>20978562
unironically to become gods.
Faustian men strive to create and invent many creation that bring it possibilities that can bring from it. Movies, Music, Video Game, Art, Internet all these have many creative possibilities arise from it but none of them are near infinite. The solution I came up was that Faustian man must become God in order to blend reality, dimension, time and space in order to create anything.
One Faustian man have the power of god, he have all the limitless power not bound by law of mundane thing like reality where you can't make a box float statically on earth. He can create new type of sounds, species, abstract concept, etc. and essentialy can create anything that's never been seen before to the human eyes.

[Anonymous No.20979587]

>>20978562
That's an easy one: Singularity.

[Anonymous No.20979607]

So Faustian Man must either ascend or die?

[Anonymous No.20979733]

>>20978562
If people can kill their own father and fuck their own mother, why is it objective to define morality? Shouldn't we trust our "animal" instinct and just fuck each hole that you can see? Morality was created by elites to MKultra the poor into obedience, late morality evolved into religion, ethics and literature. Small spooks became large spooks and people still "believed" in them.

[Anonymous No.20979757]

>>20979733
every hole's a goal.

[Strange Love No.20979772]

>>20979733

Morality was invented so not every midwit would get his dick full of goat shit. Still mostly humbug and srsly, likely nobody ever asked the goats about their opinion on that matter.

[Anonymous No.20979793]

>>20978562
How about you stop lending currency to some dusty old coot that mixed historical analysis with mystical mumbo jumbo.
If he had published The Death of the West today he would have (rightfully) gotten laughed out of academia

[Anonymous No.20979886]

>>20979607
He thinks it's a decline, not an ascent.

[Anonymous No.20979909]

>>20979886
Technics have advanced considerably since Spengler wrote that.

Anime could become real in a few years.

[Anonymous No.20979919]

>>20979909
He thought technics was nearing its completion and I think he was basically right about that.

[Anonymous No.20979922]

>>20979919
>technics was nearing its completion

[Anonymous No.20979935]

>>20979922
For us. Not technics broadly, but technics as we conceive it.

[Anonymous No.20979977]

>>20979536
you're mentally ill. doublefold so because you both believe that it's possible to bend reality and that it would actually solve the problem.

[Anonymous No.20979997]

>>20978562
Theosis.

[Anonymous No.20980899]

>>20979977
yeah, we gotta try it.

[Anonymous No.20980984]

>>20978562
ecocatastrophy

[Anonymous No.20981409]

>>20979371
What do you even want? He has only one book about almost everything ever and that's the whole premise of Spengler.

The only thing you could do is get acquainted with Nietzsche and Goethe's works because they're his biggest influences namely.

Other than that you can read Man and Technics but it just contains some biological mumbo jumbo on how he thinks man invented perspective and technology with 10% of the book actually talking about technology.

[Anonymous No.20981425]

[Anonymous No.20981432]

>>20981425
based but wrong thread.
this spengler not evola.

[Anonymous No.20981451]

>>20981432
The Nordic-Aryan man > The Faustian Man. The wholeness of the self, upon the peaks in union with God. Not striving for the heights with no limit, a spiritual confidence. Disagree with the Faustian Myth as the founding myth of the west, but that of a later degeneration. Our purity is found in Arthuriana, the Matter of France, a Classical Heritage, and the Crusades.

[Anonymous No.20981500]

>>20978562
Spengler never envisioned a "solution", far from it. His book is about how Western society isn't some logical conclusion to human history as the West envisions it, but one in many singularities with similar characteristics that have little to do with each other. The West isn't grand because it doesn't fulfill any grand historical narrative as there is none, at the same time it is great intrinsically as it contains its own creations and ideas it panders to.

I don't understand why alt-lites read this book and think it's something to help them RETVRN, the point of the book is the opposite. You're living in the age of mass media, globalization, onions glop, tr00ns, feminism etc all because it's a conclusion to the West, not because it's an antithesis of it - quite the opposite. People in Rome were mostly vain, drank led-infused water and compared nothing to the Greeks (who when they were contemporaries to the Romans got utterly debased as well).

The only thing you can do is resign yourself to pragmatic, technical pursuits in terms of great achievements as Spengler himself remarks. But to be a philosopher or artist, even scientist, in the conventional sense is dead.

[Anonymous No.20982233]

>>20978562
Spengler was right, but also wrong, in the sense that his description of faustian man was actually just German man, and German man is just a man IN Germany (not from germany.) The pompeii soldier is a picture of a good German, not a good American, or good Brit, or good Frenchman. Standing by the eruption of the world, while it's position shrinks smaller and smaller with each passing year, into infinintesimals - infitesimally small german heritage, every ardent german nationalist is a mudblood American with Pure Prussian Ancestry, German culture reduced to Nazism, which itself can't help but develop into a kind of global movement, using Germany as nothing more than an axiom, every german invention is some kind of dishwasher or dryer or shaver for the Anglo establishment to heed as 'dependable,' and little more. Nietzsche actually had the solution for Faustian man, in the sense that the 'last man' is the last German, in the sense that Germany is the last true aspect of Rome, even truer than Rome, Italy, itself.

[Anonymous No.20982638]

>>20978562
Good pornography.

[Anonymous No.20982695]

>>20981432
Evola was Spengler's first Italian translator.

[Anonymous No.20982810]

>>20982233
The American education and military were modeled after the Prussian ones, and at one point (some) Americans considered installing a Prussian king. He wrote in his book that up to the 1930s, Faustian civilization had been mainly English-American civilization. What you're really referring to is what he explained in his book Prussianism and Socialism.

[Anonymous No.20982910]

>>20978562
death and damnation

[Anonymous No.20982917]

[Anonymous No.20983152]

>>20982917
2200 - 2022 = 167 years left
oh my fucking god another fucking 167 years left with all these woke bullshits.