Books to understand the female psyche?

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Books to understand the female psyche? Anonymous Mon Sep 12 00:24:33 2022 No.20975949 [Reply] [Original]

Are there any books that allow me to understand the mind and psychology of women? Not through the lens of feminism or ideology but through actual logic and fact. Would love genuine recommendations.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 00:28:10 2022 No.20975960 >>20975949 Fake post. OP has no intention to read a damn thing

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 00:30:56 2022 No.20975969 File: 78 KB, 850x400, 73cc04bbe3a84bc7a810adc6f15b0ed8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20975949

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 00:33:50 2022 No.20975984 >>20975949 The last part of Ulysses.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 00:40:15 2022 No.20976003 >>20975949 Unironically paperback romance novels. They're literally all about how women crave male domination.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 00:47:55 2022 No.20976022 >>20975949 Fake post. OP has no intention to read a damn thing

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:13:10 2022 No.20976117 Jung's alchemy

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:13:35 2022 No.20976119
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>>20975949
>How to become a good man ("inner game"):
Man of Steel & Velvet by Aubrey Andelin
No More Mr Nice Guy by Robert Glover

>How to meet women ("game"/social skills):
Mystery Method by Mystery
Daygame by Tom Torero

>How to keep a good woman (love, sexual polarity):
The Art of Loving by Eric Fromm
The Way of Superior Man by David Deida
Men From Mars by John Gray

From a more traditional perspective, read the Bible and Julius Evola (picrel) - "Eros and the Mysteries of Love: The Metaphysics of Sex". Evola is amazing overall, you'll get a good insight into the metaphysics of daily life by the aforementioned book, "Ride the Tiger", "Revolt against the Modern World" and "Bow and the Club".

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:13:50 2022 No.20976121 >>20975949 Weininger, Madame Bovary..

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:33:00 2022 No.20976226 >>20976119 Good post.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:42:12 2022 No.20976282 >>20976119 Good choices especially with Evola.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:43:17 2022 No.20976290 >>20976121 explain

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:45:28 2022 No.20976303 >>20976290 Explain what?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:46:23 2022 No.20976308 >>20975949 Booba

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:46:48 2022 No.20976309 Pussy. Pussy is a book. Read it

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:50:22 2022 No.20976326 >>20975969 “Her great art is the lie, her highest concern is mere appearance and beauty.” Gagged me

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:51:37 2022 No.20976334 >>20976003 True. I personally love dominant men. Most if not all women do

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:55:33 2022 No.20976350
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>>20975949
You don't need a book for those cunts. A blogpost is enough. Here, let me help:

>They only care about appearances, yours and their own.
>This means that they're incapable of caring about things like literature, gaming, etc.; they simply want to be SEEN as the kind of gal who likes books and games.
>This is due to the fact that their PRIME DIRECTIVE, the impulse behind everything they say and do, the instinct that controls them from their first breath to their last, is to attract the best possible male to produce the best possible kids. All of the female "psyche" is a sovrastructure built around this impulse for the sole purpose of achieving it.
>Women however are stupid and not introspective at all, so they don't realize why they act like they do, and never will.
There. All you need to navigate the vaginal seas.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:55:58 2022 No.20976354
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>>20975969
The older I get, the more true that quote seems to me. I feel like nearly all the guys in my life married these types. Look how easily they accept women with dicks as female just because it's socially acceptable and they don't want to be a pariah for doinf the opposite. Look how easily they succumb to the vaccine, not necessarily because they felt it was the right choice for them, but because it's the socially acceptable thing to do, then consequently pressured their partners into getting it. They're the ones who are most affected too by social media even though everyone knows everyone jsut projects an illusion of their best life. Even then sometimes fully manufacturing it just for a single picture than rather that moment being a genuine part of their life activities.

I've literally seen ppl turn up to a beach only to set up and take pics then pack it all up within 15 mins, it's insanity

The only ones I feel who this doesn't seem of affect is one particular female cousin and my sister

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:58:06 2022 No.20976366 >>20976226 >>20976282 Thanks guys.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 02:00:01 2022 No.20976372 >>20975949 Nice rack on her, pal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 02:24:43 2022 No.20976500 >>20975949 Women are retarded and the worst thing we ever did was start caring what they think. That's it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 02:36:31 2022 No.20976540 File: 144 KB, 1400x2100, come-as-you-are-revised-and-updated-9781982165314_hr (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sex focused and hard to read as a male, but you will almost certainly take away some new idea.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 02:53:18 2022 No.20976585 >>20975949 >Books to understand the rock psyche >Books to understand the parrot psyche >Books to understand the cat psyche Focus on improving yourself anon, not understanding why your lessers are lesser; they just are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 02:56:43 2022 No.20976599 >>20976354 Disagree

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 03:16:09 2022 No.20976679 >>20975949 >Not through the lens of feminism But the second sex is good for understanding woman. There is a part where she rambles about how 'mom clubs' ruind the book industry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 03:18:11 2022 No.20976691 >>20975949 anything Nathaniel Hawthorne

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 03:18:56 2022 No.20976699 >>20976354 Its rare, often non existent that women will ever challenge the status quo

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 03:22:19 2022 No.20976715
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>>20976354
You will never be able to understand a woman's experience of life

Imagine how stupid you were about playing video games or watching shit like anime when you were 13 and everything seemed equally new and great to your unformed brain, then imagine the entire world is encouraging you to do that and telling you you're already an adult and everything you say is good and valid. That's a woman. They're basically in an involuntary MDMA trip for 10-20 years on end, no human being could survive the amount of frivolous simple pleasure + social reinforcement to keep giving in to the pleasure that women are bombarded with in their youth.

It's genuinely cruel to expect much else from them on their own. It's like trying to talk someone tripping on ecstasy down and get them to be sober and reasonable. Women can literally get pleasure-drunk on seeing bright colors, they see a bitch they don't even like that much in the street and instantly start laughing and screaming with her hysterically. They can cry at a commercial and their orgasms last ten fucking minutes for god's sake. Stop burdening these strange retarded creatures with demands that they be serious and responsible.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 03:24:21 2022 No.20976731

>>20976350
Motherhood actually starts after you give birth, imo, so the reason I attempt introspection and read literature (and play games I guess?) is because I am responsible for raising children, not just giving birth to them. My children will always be my children, but they will only be literal children for just a portion of their lives. They will be adults for a much longer time, so it is up to my husband and I both, working together, to rear them into people. Into citizens, countrymen, friends, spouses, and parents of their own. It is a moral requirement for me to prepare them (and thus prepare myself) for a world that will do its best to kill them.

Most women today don't think this way because they have been deluded into thinking the androgynous society is the utopia, where men are the default and women are the deviant. So they have cleaved their gendered "soul" from their sexed body, to hold up aloft and plaster all manner of half-baked 'identities' onto it, as men are capable of doing, although those identities are not created willy-nilly but rather forged from adversity and effort (i.e. the male obsessive as craftsman, sportsman, C.E.O., etc.). Women don't create art, they create the artist.

But this isn't good enough. The identity of 'mother' is to be derided as it is antithetical and counterproductive to the male ideal of freedom from all facticity, from biological reality. The modern Church of Feminity only worships male gods, ironically enough. This is why they insist on the priority of male achievement in career/power/politics (i.e. the girlboss), why they take birth control to alter their bodies medically to have the 'sterility' of men (as if bodily autonomy for women is possible the same way it is for men), and why they are attempting to wrest masculinity generally from men, who are doing it wrong, who are doing it 'toxically'.

TL;DR Women are weak, mothers are strong. Not every woman should be a mother, but putting every effort into just being a 'woman' is a shallow life experience imo

>>20975949
OP, if you're interested in anything I said above, read Camille Paglia. She doesn't quite fit your standards because she's a an 'anti-feminist feminist' but she is who I take a lot of my feminine cues from. Hope that helps at all

>>20976679
Seconded, Simone de Beauvoir is an interesting read

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 03:37:12 2022 No.20976787 >>20976731 Even mothers are weak. Just look at people who were raised only by their mums.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 03:38:33 2022 No.20976790 >>20976119 evola is the opposite of what you should be reading if you want pussy

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 03:48:08 2022 No.20976816 >>20976731 YWNBAW

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 04:33:12 2022 No.20977015

>>20976787
That's not /entirely/ a problem of a mother's substance (of course single mothers can still be shit) but also a problem of father absence. I'm very biased as the daughter of a single father myself, but I maintain that fatherhood is much harder for children to go without. Feminine influence can be substituted with more ease than masculine influence

>>20976816
So true bestie

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 04:47:24 2022 No.20977079 >>20976500 Simple as.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 04:49:11 2022 No.20977087

>>20976715
>Stop burdening these strange retarded creatures with demands that they be serious and responsible.
Stop treating them like anything other than retarded children. All this could change overnight if men would stop desperately tripping over themselves for the slightest hint that they might get to enjoy the privilege of paying for a dumb chick's meal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 04:51:13 2022 No.20977098 >>20976715 You forgot they bleed for seven days and don't die

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 04:55:33 2022 No.20977124 >>20976117 The only correct answer ITT

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 05:08:22 2022 No.20977166 >>20976731 Uh oh. You have children and you're here? In all seriousness, why? Do you just kind of tune out all the horribleness and focus on the genuine discussions of lit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 05:14:07 2022 No.20977184 >>20976731 Why are you a mother? I don't understand. Is this a meme?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 05:18:21 2022 No.20977198 >>20976350 Women learn and become cunning in order to manipulate, never discount the ability of a woman to try and control things using disgusting tactics

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 05:47:49 2022 No.20977314 >>20977198 Says the man that has never mustered up the courage to speak to a woman since middle school.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 05:49:25 2022 No.20977320 File: 120 KB, 520x588, holes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20977314 this is your first warning

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 06:00:16 2022 No.20977348 >>20975949 wtf does "sp!ts on it" mean? He spit on her pussy, and she enjoyed it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 06:06:13 2022 No.20977370 >>20976119 >>20976121 These

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 06:16:41 2022 No.20977400

>>20976119
Thank you for the suggestions. I'm convinced this is a thinly veiled "complain about women" thread but I do still also have questions and concerns about being a proper man and my relationships with women. I get that men and women are intrinsically opposites but we still need eachother to complete ourselves and managing to do that in a day and age where evil seems to exploit women of the qualities women used to have in my grandmother's time from the day they're born is confusing. It was so much simpler before the internet and even simpler still before massively accessible media and the marxist feminist revolutions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 06:21:24 2022 No.20977412 >>20977314 What in the living fuck are you talking about you stupid fucking nigger? You think women aren't manipulative? You should have your head smashed against a stone wall, I'm not the one bitch.

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Anonymous Mon Sep 12 06:24:40 2022 No.20977422

>>20976731
I'm inclined to believe you because you make a convincing argument and still answer OP's question, staying on topic to the thread. But the internet rules say there are no women on 4chan and you could be a tranny or some other larper because what is a decent mother doing on 4chan?

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 07:39:38 2022 No.20977717
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>>20977166
No, we don't have children just yet! Actively working on it though. My post was about the standard I will hold myself to when I do become a mother.

Thank you for your questions. Peripherally, I do browse lit for recommendations; I'm currently reading The Crusades: Iron Men and Saints by Harold Lamb (it's very good so far; Godfrey of Bouillon is my favorite) and I've already bought my copy of War and Peace to join the /lit/ readalong.

Otherwise yes, I do like to read about what you all have to say, warts and all. Perhaps this is misguided and maybe you won't like to hear it but I really, really feel for you lot. I mentioned in >>20977015 that I'm the daughter of a single father, and I love my dad immensely. To this day he remains one of my best friends. But I'm almost 100% certain that he would have parroted much of the 'horribleness' here, as you say, had he been an anon while he was young. It really sucks but because of him I have first hand experience in the incredibly potent damage women - mothers - can inflict upon men, and I worry about what women are doing to you all. I really wish I could do more for you than listen and lurk (I rarely post in the first place because I respect the necessity of men to have a place where men can discuss things without women's input), but alas, we're all dogs in God's hot car.

When I do have kids, I probably won't post on 4chan anymore because they'll be my focus, but until then my weird maternal concern keeps bringing me back to see how you all are doing.

>>20977184
Not one yet, but I do regard being a mother as being the singularly most important thing I can do with my life. It's been my most consistent passion since I was 15; more than having a career, writing a book, drawing and painting, reading, etc., all the hobbies I dabble in and out of remain lukewarm whims compared to the ultimate dream of being a mother and a wife.

>>20977422
I maintain that women can't do shit on the internet without announcing that they're women every five seconds - including me. I'm no better than my attention-seeking counterparts, I just try very hard not to indulge that hateful, accursed impulse. It's fine if you think I'm a larper or a tranny, haha, I'll nevereverever post tits to prove otherwise, lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 07:45:21 2022 No.20977738 >>20977717 You seem quite nice. Thank you for the thoughts. I wish you fortune in your endeavors of parenthood because I am not a praying man yet.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 07:49:53 2022 No.20977758
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>>20975949
Sir Nicholas Chamfort gave you the answer to women question long ago.

>Apparently nature, in giving man an absolutely irradicable taste for women, must have foreseen that, without this precaution, the contempt inspired by the vices of their sex, vanity in particular, would be a great obstacle to the maintenance and propagation of the human species.

>One must make choice between loving women and knowing them; there is no middle course.

>A man who professed to esteem women highly was asked if he had enjoyed the favours of many. Not so many as if I had despised them, ” he said.

>A woman was at a performance of the tragedy of Mérope, and did not weep: surprise was expressed. "I could cry my eyes out", she said, "but I have to go out to supper to -night."

>A witty woman told me one day what may well be the secret of her sex: it is that every woman in choosing a lover takes more account of the way in which other women regard the man than of her own.

>Women only give to friendship what they borrow from love.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 07:51:54 2022 No.20977767 >>20975960 Fpbp

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 07:52:36 2022 No.20977772

>>20977717
>but I do regard being a mother as being the singularly most important thing I can do with my life. It's been my most consistent passion since I was 15; more than having a career, writing a book, drawing and painting, reading,
What a pathetic little retard you're. Schopenhauer was absolute right about women.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 07:56:05 2022 No.20977788 >>20977772 It's almost certainly a /pol/tard on tradwife larp. Just read it again, it's incel's caricature idea of a woman.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 07:58:32 2022 No.20977795 >>20977788 Go back to twitter troon

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 07:59:12 2022 No.20977800 >>20977795 Confirmed then.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 08:05:10 2022 No.20977831

I hate women so fucking much. One of these days, when the perfect opportunity arises, I will savagely beat one of them to a pulp. It will be a random attack and she will never understand why it happened to her. I hope it will traumatize her until her dying day. Fucking rotten foids. I hope I can fulfill my wish very soon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 08:06:08 2022 No.20977837 >>20977015 Then that means that fathers are better/more important than mothers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 08:06:45 2022 No.20977840 >>20977800 Dilate

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 08:06:53 2022 No.20977841 >>20977831 Lmao judging by the way you type you better get a weapon or even a women will beat you

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 08:07:47 2022 No.20977846 >>20977831 Seek help incel

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 08:08:44 2022 No.20977854

>>20976731 >>20977422

>>TL;DR Women are weak, mothers are strong.
sadly the beta fantasy that motherhood is the salvation of the whore is jut a fantasy.

women love to play the helicopter mom in order to base their life on something else than egotistic sex cravings. And since the more they spread their legs, the more they get pregnant, managing a kid is the most natural option for them. However, as the kid grow, the mom gets bored with it and she misses the sex, so after a while she goes back to basing her life on sex, especially now that tinder exists it's very little work on her side to still get lots of orbiters.
If she deludes herself she is not a whore she will cling to the helicopter mom job a lot and it will make her kid's life hell

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 08:09:53 2022 No.20977858

>>20977841
I have an extendable baton which I will use. You're mistaken though and a woman would be completely defenseless against me even without the baton.
>>20977846
I'm in a mental health clinic but there's nothing to be done about my objectively correct view on women. I'm not an incel either

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 08:11:41 2022 No.20977868 >>20977858 Rebellion is always distasteful while renunciation is timeless

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 08:14:53 2022 No.20977886 >>20977868 And why should I care

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 08:20:42 2022 No.20977912 >>20977886 Your being is at stake

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:08:05 2022 No.20978085

>>20977738
Thanks anon, I wish the same for you. I am also not the praying type, but perhaps we share a destiny in becoming so. Cheers.

>>20977772
Which part is upsetting you? That I'm incapable of rising above my baser reproductive impulses? I'm not better than other women. I'm not better than anybody. I skimmed through the Schopenhauer essay - the "On Women" one? I assume that's the one you're talking about - I haven't read him yet but he's been on my list.

I thought the part about justice was interesting and perhaps a part I'd agree with. As I said in my post, it is in all likelihood against my better judgement to sympathize with any of you anons when some of you may hate me regardless of who I am behind my tits and vagina, but my inclination to extend those feelings is stronger than my reasoning! Proof positive perhaps of Schopenhauer's point that sound logic takes a backseat to empathy for dumb estrogen-riddled female brain.

He also mentioned women's craftiness being something of a defense mechanism - this is something Camille Paglia echoes when she discusses man's more developed sense of beauty, which is abnormal compared to say the mating practices of birds - males have all the plumage and color. It is the reverse in us humans because of our pesky consciousness. Paglia says something to the effect of women are the preeners and men are the beholders, because men need the the lull of it to gain the illusion of control over the woman or the strength to pursue. Guess it's all a horseshoe in the end.

I will read that Schopenhauer essay in more detail.

>>20977788
I won't post tits to prove I am who I say I am, but to whatever degree I sound like a tradwife (I promise I'm really not, an actual incel would not tolerate me) it's because I wished I could have had the kind of family I'm dreaming of when I was a kid. Being the only child of a single parent - however awesome - is lonely. I don't want that for my children, simple as.

>>20977837
Arguably yes, though even I don't like to admit it myself. In the bicycle of parenting, the mother is the back wheel (support) and the father is the front wheel (direction). Which wheel would you rather go without?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:19:08 2022 No.20978100 >>20976350 >gaming stopped reading here

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:20:42 2022 No.20978102 >>20978085 What's your argument against Antinatalism?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:29:30 2022 No.20978116 >>20977758 >>Women only give to friendship what they borrow from love. What the fuck does this mean

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:34:54 2022 No.20978125 >>20977854 You're from the icarly thread. Where'd you get that paragraph?

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:39:01 2022 No.20978137

>>20978085
You can ride a unicycle, so that doesn't matter.
The thing is that we live in a male dominated society, so males will be the better parrent.
Only if all the sexes are treated the same while accepting differences, then there will be no 'better parrent'.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:49:00 2022 No.20978158 File: 295 KB, 1920x1441, arthur-schopenhauer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20975949 Schopenhauer's On Women essay. http://theabsolute.net/misogyny/onwomen.html

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:54:32 2022 No.20978168 >>20975969 This dude was a massive simp btw and also died if syphilis

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:55:09 2022 No.20978169

>>20978085
While a father is more important than a mother (based on the metric of children growing up to be functional adults/suceeding) lacking a cohesive family unit will always leave massive scars one way or another. While I had both parents, I had irresponsible and dysfunctional ones. It lead to the psychological death of my oldest brother and stunted development of my youngest which is still rippling throughout his life as he's reaching late adolescence in mirror to my own childhood. Funnily enough the only normal kid in the family was the middle child because he was given less attention by the dysfunction. As for me, while I am finally starting to get my life together, there are parts of me I fear will never be entirely whole due to that lack of normalcy like trust and self-respect and another part of me I fear is stopping me because If I am supposedly able to reach everything a person with good parents had then does that invalidate my suffering? Theologically I'm also supposed to forgive my parents eventually for my sake but I hold on to that bitterness and like Judas I'm falling to despair for my own sins instead of seeking forgiveness too. At least I donct hate women anymorr. It took a long time to do that but now I'm only putting hate where I think that which is supposed to be hated lies. For example, the manipulation of women that lead to the current problems with modern women today carried out by Marxists and the Antichrist.

Bottom line: Family is the most important thing a person needs and whichever sex is more important is irrelvant (despite having that answer) because a failure on either part is a tragedy in and of itself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 10:14:13 2022 No.20978203 File: 790 KB, 2294x751, 1648655915778.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20978158 This. Schoppie and Stirner already dissected the woman problem perfectly, there's of value nothing to add. Only copes and delusions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 10:15:51 2022 No.20978209 File: 790 KB, 2294x751, 1648655915778.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20978158 This. Schoppie and Weininger already dissected the woman problem perfectly, there's of value nothing to add. Only copes and delusions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 10:16:50 2022 No.20978214 >>20978116 >/lit/ are now so retarded they can't even parse basic logic in barely literarily flourished statements Hard times are ahead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 10:45:48 2022 No.20978268 File: 35 KB, 400x387, 1641461285086.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20976354 >one particular female cousin and my sister please tell me more, how do their panties smell after two days wear?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 10:47:01 2022 No.20978269 >>20975949 The Red Queen: Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 10:48:01 2022 No.20978272 >>20977015 >>20976731 Hello, Trooney-McCuckers fag

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 11:14:45 2022 No.20978316
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>>20976790
Not really, specifically the Metaphysics of Sex which helps in a more direct way due to the subject of the book.
In my opinion, metaphysics are of paramount importance.

>>20977400
You are welcome.
>I'm convinced this is a thinly veiled "complain about women" thread
Most thread discussing women are, albeit the OP seemed genuine in his request and I had the opportunity to guide.

Men and women are not opposites, but rather complementary by nature. Like Yin and yang. Don't let modernity's degeneracy fool you.
There is a reason why man (Adam) was made first, and then woman (Eve). And the one who sinned was the woman. Even if you do not believe this story, it tells deeps truths in multiple ways. Just look how it is easier for women to fall into temptation and sin than men.
The internet is a double-edged sword, like any tool. In fact, it is the most powerful research tool that mankind has ever produced. Alas, it is used by social media slaves of the algorithm - dopamine addicts, often unconsciously.

Overall I understand what you mean, perhaps we truly are at the end of an age/cycle.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 11:36:27 2022 No.20978357

>>20976003
Was coming here to post this. If OP really wants to understand women, he should pick up ones aimed at different audiences as well to see the theme remains the same. Keep it short, bevause who wants to read 700 pages of that shit, but maybe one mom romance detective novel and one twilight type book.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 11:36:41 2022 No.20978359

>>20978316
>Like Yin and yang
I did mean it like that, just badly worded it. Yin and yang to me are opposites, yin being the female, black half, right? There's a saying: "There's nothing new under the sun." That was true until the internet. We have witnessed things never before even imagined by those of the past. I believe we are reaching a possible endgame with the antichrist. There will be chaos and war and senseless "preventable" tragedy and there's a good chance it could be the literal end of history but there's also a chance we win and we enter an age of enlightenment where things return to a natural order. That last part is part cope/hope but also slightly precedented in history and metaphysics.
I still find it unbelievable I have to argue about what a woman is. It's like if everyone started sayimg the sky is actually red. Itcs literally maddening as I am going mad at the world.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 11:37:02 2022 No.20978360

>>20978158
Just read it, excellent read, some parts are exaggerated, like the one claiming that women cannot genuinely appreciate the arts, or completely retarded, like the one about polygamy, as from a demographic standpoint, it would make society crumble much faster than any right given to women.

Otherwise, absolutely crazy to see that Schopenhauer basically spat out all the so-called “redpills” and “blackpills” about women 200 years before “incels” were a thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 11:39:19 2022 No.20978364 >>20978360 I don't think women can 'fully' appreciate the arts, genuinely yes though to what they can appreciate. The other stuff I'm on board with you about.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 11:44:16 2022 No.20978378 >>20978357 Also OP should read Freud's writings on women's intrinsic deviancy. People hate him because he told the truth and tried to bring hard evidence to the table.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 11:45:57 2022 No.20978383 >>20978378 I heard a lot of his translations are shoddy. Is there a certain printing I should look for?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 11:46:38 2022 No.20978385 >>20978168 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18575181/

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 11:47:54 2022 No.20978388 >>20978383 No clue. He wrote a lot in scientific journals of the day so a lot of it is scattered. Perhaps there is a compilation somewhere.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 11:52:45 2022 No.20978398

>>20978378
Also, skip the gay preface and modern inserts, this is his greatest work imo: https://www.sigmundfreud.net/studies-on-hysteria-pdf-ebook.jsp

Not sure how good the translation is, but here he realizes that female sexual deviancy is the root cause of their nonsense, not abuse or trauma. Less than 200 pages as well and not super dense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 12:03:45 2022 No.20978420 Just stop recognizing feminism as a concept.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 12:05:33 2022 No.20978424
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>>20975949
You should only try and understand women sexually, through your testicular intuition, as a human beast: while the ontological status of man is in question because of the speculation of presence and degree of 'selfhood in the selfless world,' woman can only be seen as a slightly unintuivie, 'antinomial' extension of man: not like an appendix, not like a morpholigically incomplete male, not like a spiritual yin-yang counterpart, but like a kind of 'soft, warm shadow,' literally like an *ontological* toddler. Some women are quite smart, only hyperbolic statements attempt otherwise, but the question of women isn't appraoched 'through reason,' in the first place: women are proof that reason is incomplete insofar as the 'vector' of reason is merely ONE of, however many others.
Femininity has little to do with women (as in the biological structure) but gyno- has *everything* to do with women (as biological structures.) And the more you know about the gyno, the more you know that there's nothing you want to know about it. Think of 'thinking about women' as Batailles excessive waste - there is literally no greater excess than that of trying to 'place women in a sensible light,' because their very nature is to be like spiritual vantablack, inpenetrable to thought. This isn't irrationalist, by the way. It's learned.
You can safely seperate interaction with women into two domains: utilitarian, and matrimonial (not necessarily in any dogmatic sense, but in the sense of a bridge between 'feeling' and 'reason.')
It's crucial that you DON'T WASTE TIME with women, in the sense that you use women to *understand* exactly what 'wasted time' REALLY means - no, it doesn't mean being a player. It means playing the game like you really mean it - that's what all women want men to do, because it's the best thing a man can do for himself, and thus, by proxy, a man in his best state will necessarily 'solve' the perplexion of the question of women. YOu feel me, bro?
Go in with the expectation not that it's an unsolvable problem, but that there's nothing to actually 'know.' At some point, you'll see it's not such a bad thing that women aren't up to the same cognitive spec as men. Most of the work should be your own self work: walking through the flames of coming-of-age means distancing yourself from your biological structure and seeing women as a systematic necessity: the love of a mother (but really, it's more like the love *for* a mother) is like faith for the divine, whatever exactly that means. What it doesn't mean is that you can know it. You CAN know it, but the 'quality' of knowledge isn't the same. Intuition/Gnosis is the kind of differential drive of reason. Sex is for the spirit what a given sense is for the brain, again, just 'one' sense-vector, of however many more. Learn to speak with your 'manmind' in your internal monolouges about women, not with your 'mathmind.'

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 12:21:09 2022 No.20978458 >>20976731 Dilate. YNBAW.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 12:25:27 2022 No.20978465 >>20977772 Anyone who didn't see that connection right away even in the fake poltranny larp needs the recommendations in this thread badly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 12:28:30 2022 No.20978470 What does she mean with “spits in it”? Spitting in the dick/pussy for lubrication? She watches too much porn, spit is horrible for lubrication, eventually dries the vag even more, but I guess it looks hot

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 12:58:40 2022 No.20978546 Not OP but I'm very happy with how this thread turned out >>20978424 I think I get what you're saying, you make sense and share a perspective I hadn't consudered before. Thank you for posting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 13:24:27 2022 No.20978601 >>20975949 Any novel by D.H. Lawrence, esp. The Rainbow and Lady Chatterley's Lover.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 14:09:13 2022 No.20978711 >>20978424 What did you read to realise this? >inb4 it wasn't reading that made ne realise What woukd you recc reading to understand what you're saying more comprehensively.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 14:12:25 2022 No.20978723 >>20975969 >her highest concern is mere appearance and beauty I guess that makes Nietzsche a rather womanly man.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 14:14:00 2022 No.20978729 >>20975949 Sincerely asking, what did she mean by this? Spit on what?

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 14:19:17 2022 No.20978747

>>20978359
>Yin and yang to me are opposites, yin being the female, black half, right?
Well they are both opposite and complementary.
Yin is negative, dark and feminine. Yang is positive, bright and masculine. There's elements of masculinity in femininity and vice-versa, which is why they also complement.
For example, we falsely have the illusion that water, ice, and steam are different things, but they’re really just all a different modality of water. The same is true for everything else that exists
everything in this universe is quite literally light.

>There's a saying: "There's nothing new under the sun."
That saying continues to be true, since the first principles and fundamentals (aka metaphysics) do not change. They are primordial truth.

>There will be chaos and war and senseless "preventable" tragedy and there's a good chance it could be the literal end of history but there's also a chance we win and we enter an age of enlightenment where things return to a natural order.
I believe it to be true aswell, since the antichrist are all of those that deny Christ and his teachings - such as materialists, new age bs, atheists and satanists, etc. There are alot of antichrists at this very moment. Careful with the "age of enlightenment", the world is being steered away from Christ. It's Hegelian Dialectics, we have a problem (WEF, jews, etc) that creates a reaction (revolt, etc) and forms a solution (their solution is one without Christ, a materialistic, pagan, satanic religion - that is the real goal, to initiate people at mass to their religion). Be extremely careful with the "official narrative", both the dark and light, and where it is being aimed towards. Do not become mad with the world, because we are not from it. I don't like Nietzsche, but he is correct by saying to not look into the abyss because it'll stare back at you.
Take it from 1 John 2:15-17:
"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever."

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 14:20:32 2022 No.20978753 >>20978747 talk to a (female) woman

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 14:20:35 2022 No.20978754 >>20975949 sauce?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 14:23:08 2022 No.20978764 >>20978753 No, he shouldn't. That is always a mistake.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 14:25:39 2022 No.20978774 >>20976119 Newfag dabbler unironically

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 14:28:21 2022 No.20978784 >>20976350 >Gaming Post discarded

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 14:30:42 2022 No.20978792

>>20978747
>That saying continues to be true, since the first principles and fundamentals (aka metaphysics) do not change. They are primordial truth.
The proverb refers more to history than physics but I get what you mean ultimately. Patterns emerge in history and consciousness and the information age has added a new paradigm for those latterns to fall along so ultimate to everything is running the same but tge results and conflict are in a new state of matter unore edented due to previously lacking certain variables. I consider myself a midwit so I'd like to know what you read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 14:31:44 2022 No.20978795 >>20978771 Aghast!

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 14:33:41 2022 No.20978800

>>20978792
Goodness my spelling
The proverb refers more to history than physics but I get what you mean ultimately. Patterns emerge in history and consciousness and the information age has added a new paradigm for those patterns to fall along so ultimately everything is running the same but the results and conflict are in a new state of beinb unprecedented due to previously lacking certain variables abailiable that have emerged within technological development.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 15:10:02 2022 No.20978925

>>20978753
I already do.

>>20978774
How so? I only responded to what OP asked for.

>>20978771
Thanks for proving my point. If you do not worship God, you will inevitably worship something else. That "system" does not dissappear.

>>20978792
>>20978800
All good. Basically, there's another saying for this: "history may not repeat itself, but it certainly rhymes." You are correct in the stance provided.
Other, previously unknown, paradigms may be added but it ultimately the outcome for the masses usually ends up the same or close enough.
However, as individuals, we ultimately are here to fulfill the Biblical promise, everything else is secular.

>I consider myself a midwit so I'd like to know what you read.
First step is to never assume that which you do not want to be, because you'll become that very thing. The opposite is also true. "As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he" - Proverbs 23:7
To know the secrets (I obviously don't know everything), you only need sufficient intelligence to read and enough intuition to understand.
In all honesty, read James 1:5 and then the sermon of the mount, or say a prayer like "Lord that I may receive my sight". There's a law "hidden" in the these aforementioned verses.
Do you need books? I have a great list. I don't read THAT much as you might think, it's just that I get knowledge & wisdom from God.

When you have a perfect concept of anything you can easily reproduce it.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 16:07:44 2022 No.20979074

>>20978102
Probably something to the effect of maturity doesn't happen until you care about something more than yourself. Similar to the William F. Butler quote, "The society that separates its warriors from its scholars will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools," I would posit that childless people who remain so on moral grounds remain children themselves in a big way, so I'm inclined to not take them seriously. I guess I'm taking somewhat of a stoic approach: having children is an enlightening life experience that unlocks your own maturity and prioritizing moral 'feeling' over that mastery of yourself and of life is at best retarded and at worst evil.

I've not fully sorted my thoughts on the subject though, since I've only considered antinatalism as a meme instead of a genuine position so my answer may be a bit different if I considered it seriously

>>20978137
True. Men are the 'better' parent in the way >>20978169 very succinctly puts it: fathers care about who you will become, so having a father (to provide discipline and direction) increases the likelihood of one being a functional adult. I agree that it is better to have both, and that both deserve respect for the complimentary roles that parents, together, provide.

>>20978169
Very true anon, I agree with your important points and I'm sorry to hear about your experience. I wish the best for you in overcoming what your parents wrought upon you, and I'm glad you've been able to recover yourself to the extent that you have. Keep up the good and important work of improving yourself.

>>20978272
Greetings

>>20978458
Ok

>>20978465
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>20978546
Me too, I think it's been an interesting time here

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 16:25:05 2022 No.20979114 >>20975949 The Bible

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 16:33:14 2022 No.20979142 The Red Queen by matt ridley is supposed to be a pretty powerful scientific red pill book

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 16:35:21 2022 No.20979151 >>20975949 Start with Hegel, anon. You can't dissociate men from their time and culture. The same goes for women.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 16:35:23 2022 No.20979152
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>>20976119
>Tom Torero

based. Just listen to his podcast and you'll learn everything you need to know. He was also a very well read king and had a lot of interesting things to say about life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 16:45:44 2022 No.20979188 >>20975949 spit on what?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 17:06:02 2022 No.20979244 >>20979152 Didn't know he had a podcast, I'll be watching his content aswell. Thanks for the suggestion anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 17:07:08 2022 No.20979251 >>20977758 >it is that every woman in choosing a lover takes more account of the way in which other women regard the man than of her own. why does my crush fuck latinos drug addicts and jewish lawyers

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 17:36:17 2022 No.20979350 >>20976731 This 100% sounds like the writing of a man. I've never heard a femanon post this tone before.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 17:40:38 2022 No.20979366 >>20975949 >any books that allow me to understand the mind and psychology of women you think woman would stand for that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 17:41:21 2022 No.20979369 >>20975949 The Second Sex then Eva Illouz to understand modern love.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 17:45:07 2022 No.20979379 >>20976119 these are the books you should read if you want to permanently alter your brain and become too self-aware to ever get women

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 17:52:19 2022 No.20979404 someone post the chart that had George Eliot and Cleopatra and Emma on it, was funny as hell.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 17:57:09 2022 No.20979418 >>20979350 >I've never heard a femanon post this tone before. anon I...

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 17:57:51 2022 No.20979422

>>20979350
I'll take that as a compliment. To be compared however casually to men, whom I admire, is an honor. So thanks haha

Personally I think I meander a bit too much. Men tend to be more succinct. For example I think >>20978424 is saying more than I did in my post, despite our similarly-sized text walls.

Camille Paglia and Abigail Favale are a couple of my inspirations for my thoughts; whatever 'tone' I have (poorly) mirror theirs, among other male authors I admire - I do read more men than women in literature. They just do it better, lmao

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 17:59:57 2022 No.20979431

ive noticed many guys think they are dominant over their woman when they are not. If your woman delegates tasks for you to do you are 100 percent her bitch.

Imagine the evolutionary history of women. Working around the camp while the men go hunt. Being the one who delegates tasks to other women is probably the number one expression of female dominance. They ALL have this instinct. If you ever comply your relationship is doomed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 18:00:28 2022 No.20979432 >>20975969 I don't remember if it was in a Lubitsch or an Ophuls movie but there was a scene where a Madame says something along the lines of 'being direct is so middle class'

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 18:08:48 2022 No.20979459 >>20979188 On feminism. Assumedly. It sounds retarded, yes, but why do you and some others ITT not understand the sentence?

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 18:12:36 2022 No.20979469

Honestly I don't think I understand your question but for psychological writing with many women characters, I like Henry James! Portrait of a Lady, Washington Square are good places to start. He himself was a (homosexual) man but had many female friends and we know from his diaries that his process drew very heavily on his conversations with them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 18:17:00 2022 No.20979481 >>20979459 I think that anon was confused because why would a woman wave goodbye to feminism when a man spits on it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 18:28:50 2022 No.20979519 Men should reproduce exclusively through artificial means tbchfam

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 18:37:58 2022 No.20979561 >>20979481 >>20979188 >>20978729 Pussy. She's talking about spitting on her pussy before eating it

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 18:41:55 2022 No.20979573 >>20979561 Isn't him eating her pussy like him submitting to feminism? I thought the implication is he spits on his cock 1. Either to fuck her or 2. So she sucks it

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 18:44:50 2022 No.20979584 >>20975949 I hate whores so much

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 18:46:07 2022 No.20979591 >>20979561 Now I'm double confused. Why would a man spit on her vagina prior to cunnilingus or intercourse, as >>20979573 suggested? t.virgin

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 18:48:33 2022 No.20979603 >>20979591 >Why would a man spit on her vagina prior to cunnilingus or intercourse Lubrication

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 18:52:25 2022 No.20979610

>>20979519
Men should hold psychic council on the astral realm where all sexual desire is suspended, channel their collective ki into rearranging the sexual drives of archetypal masculinity so that all frivolous male sexuality is channeled into Theban Sacred Band homosociality and paideia and men only seek out women as mothers and domestic partners, and then watch women kill themselves en masse.

Alternatively we could exile women to Venus like an Ursula le Guin novel and wish them luck with their lesbian genderqueer society.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 18:53:46 2022 No.20979616 >>20979603 Isn't the vagina self-lubricating? What kind of lazy faggot wouldn't get his woman in the mood?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 18:55:49 2022 No.20979623 >>20979612 I don't like how it's written, but the concept is probably true ...but I fear it doesn't apply to most people

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 18:59:04 2022 No.20979634

>>20979616
The problem is what turns women on is pretty much the opposite of what turns us on. The want like a punch of sensual faggot shit. I want her to rub baby oil on her ass and make it bounce in front of me or whatever.

Youll understand when you have a long term gf kiddo

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 19:02:21 2022 No.20979646

>>20979623
you don't think maybe women who wear make up or otherwise revel in subterfuge very much like being lied to and are willing pay you back with sloppy blowjobs for giving them a part to play in your stage play. I have it on good authority that coconut oil is a great lubricant.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 19:04:56 2022 No.20979655 >>20979616 >Isn't the vagina self-lubricating? >What kind of lazy faggot wouldn't get his woman in the mood? Have sex and find out for yourself

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 19:22:35 2022 No.20979741 >>20979655 No, I think instead I'll never have sex.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 19:28:37 2022 No.20979761 >>20979741 here lies a man who had standards.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 19:38:00 2022 No.20979792

>>20978711
The last psychiatrist get's to it pretty generally despite not talking explicitly about women, and if you want more, basically every philosopher has something to say on the matter, and none of them are exactly wrong.
My realization came when I found out that I would rather die than be some lesser version of my own interpretation of myself. So, work harder is really the only option, of course, it's not beneficial to tell someone else to work harder, it's beneficial to use hard work to help someone else find their way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 20:06:03 2022 No.20979906 >>20979616 I just wanna cum and be done

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 20:09:23 2022 No.20979918 >>20979906 sounds like an onahole would be more up your alley

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 20:11:02 2022 No.20979924 >>20975949 Self Made Man

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 21:03:43 2022 No.20980174 >>20979074 >I would posit that childless people who remain so on moral grounds remain children themselves in a big way Perfectly summed up r/childfree

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 21:06:44 2022 No.20980187

On the topic of women, im reading a bunch of romantic era works and have gotten to Jane Eyre. I’ve read a bit, and from what I can gather Brontë’s point is that duty in faith is bad, natural goodness is good. The character of St John and the way he is negatively portrayed seems to reinforce this point, even though he is kinder than mr. brocklehurst and more “true” to the morals and ethics of Christianity. My question is, how can Brontë support natural goodness if it doesn’t base itself in christian morals? the risks of not adhering to a strict moral code are that one becomes egotistical and hedonist, like the Reeds, yet Jane seems content to accept an immoral world if she can have her “naturally good” love-interest in the form of Rorchester.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 21:08:24 2022 No.20980193 >>20979379 This.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 21:11:27 2022 No.20980204 Anyone got the women are like boats/dogs screenvap series. That one I found really helpful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 21:22:37 2022 No.20980267 >>20979792 >it's not beneficial to tell someone else to work harder, it's beneficial to use hard work to help someone else find their way. That's a good lesson. Have a nice day!

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 21:38:22 2022 No.20980325
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>>20975949
>>20976731
>>20978158
I dont think women are some great unknowable mystery that many people make them out to be.
The only reason men dont know what women want, is because they do not have what women want.
Women want a certain type of warrior/ lover/ ascendant man, and there are practically none in this world who arent from a third world nation.
The Christian, Liberal Democratic west was built on the backs of beta worker drones, and the real men of the past are all but gone today.
Women crave for the natural, not the safe and cushy Western world that white men are working for.

White men today seem to be removing themselves from their barbaric ancestors in favor of globohomo consumerism, and there is literally not a faster way to dry up a pussy than being a man who wants to live in that cushy faggy world.

Women are not a mystery, its just that no men are giving them what they want, which is purpose. If you want somebody to blame for the state of women, blame yourselves. Christian beta boys killed all the wise women, calling them witches and whatnot. You have effectively domesticated yourselves, and this current state of America and the West is all to blame on weak men, not women.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 21:40:49 2022 No.20980339

>>20975949
Imagine a man received attention all his life for no effort at all. He wasn't bullied or belittled for saying cringe shit. He was accepted as valuable even while having achieved nothing. Imagine what a spoiled little shit he would become. That's it.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 21:50:46 2022 No.20980387

>>20978209
>the female, moreover, is completely occupied and content with sexual matters
If these observations are meant to be empirical and objective, why is this not the case?
There are female scientists, CEOs, artists, etc.
You can cope and say these people are not real women or that they are perversions of womanhood, but at that point it just sounds like a no true scotsman type argument.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 21:54:12 2022 No.20980401 >>20976326 Kek

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 21:54:34 2022 No.20980404

>>20976599
Fucking hell, there is nothing worse as a response than what you just said. Explain your reasoning, give examples, etc. You fucking muppet.

I think the real reason this always happens (ie. "women dumb because x" with the response being "no") is because you actually don't have an argument, you just feel like it's untrue. You basically argue like a woman.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 22:05:28 2022 No.20980442 >>20978214 you don't understand what it means either, but keep coping, faggot

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 22:09:06 2022 No.20980455

>>20980387
not that anon but weininger's book does contain "no true scotman" segments
at one point he promises to explain certain exceptions to his theories (e.g. female scientists) but he doesn't do it, it all boils down to "it's because of the male substance in them bro"
also
>"gay men are gay because of the feminine element in them"
>"however there are manly gay men too, we shall explain this later on"
>doesn't explain it later on

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 22:13:29 2022 No.20980472

>>20980325
they appear to be an unknowable mystery because they behave the way they do towards average and below average looking males
there is nothing mysterious about them, when they find a guy attractive they will behave normally and without any semblance of mystery
an average looking guy has to analyze her behavior, carefully approach her and consider what she's think etc. while a hot guy doesn't have to bother with any of that (he behaves towards her without using his brains much, plus the woman will be pretty open about her feelings)
this has nothing to do with your larp

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 22:13:39 2022 No.20980473

>>20975949
What always strikes me about these threads is the simultaneous exhultation of men as infinitely superior, while also obssessing over a lack of sex, which is to say a lack of attention from women.
If you were really superior why care how women perceive you?
On the other hand, why be angry that women aren't like men? I see many posts here mad that women aren't more like men.. And yet I also see the opposite claims on here that the problem is women trying to act like men, that they need to know their place. So which is it?

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 22:18:29 2022 No.20980488

>>20980473
You're far from being alone in mentioning this supposed contradiction. How is it a contradiction, though? You think someone can't be above something in an X way and yet still need it in an Y way? What's contradictory about a guy thinking men are superior yet still acknowledging that they want to have sex with women? Why would the fact that we all have lust make women equal to men? Is food equal to people because we all hunger for food?
I don't agree with any of the incel talking points, but this argument of yours is weak.
>If you were really superior why care how women perceive you?
My guess is they only care insofar as sex is concerned - they wouldn't care if women find them stupid, but they would care if they found them ugly and sexually not desirable.
>So which is it?
It's probably two different groups of people talking, those two views are genuinely contradicting, as you say.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 22:26:51 2022 No.20980511 Waste of time. I found a girl who shares my thoughts and no longer do I care about broad generalizations. 99% of people are simple anyway.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 23:19:56 2022 No.20980684

>>20980488
>How is it a contradiction, though? You think someone can't be above something in an X way and yet still need it in an Y way? What's contradictory about a guy thinking men are superior yet still acknowledging that they want to have sex with women? Why would the fact that we all have lust make women equal to men? Is food equal to people because we all hunger for food?
If food were sentient and only agreed to be eaten on the condition that people did them favors and showed them about town, yes on that particular point, that of hunger satiation, humans would be equal to food.
I didn't say women were equal to men in every way, but you clearly can't claim men are totally superior to women, if men are still dependent on women in certain ways.
>My guess is they only care insofar as sex is concerned - they wouldn't care if women find them stupid, but they would care if they found them ugly and sexually not desirable.
Right, but that means in a sense they're dependent on women. I.e not superior and even in a sense women have more power over them. They're mad that women show no interest in them, so they turn around and cope by exaggeratedly protesting how dumb and worthless womens' opinions are.
>It's probably two different groups of people talking, those two views are genuinely contradicting, as you say.
Idk are they 2 different groups? Could be, but hard to tell on an anonymous forum. Seems like it's the same people who claim to want some super submissive trad wife that will then they turn around and bitch about the weakness of women.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 23:42:20 2022 No.20980748

>>20975949
paraphrasing from ep100"taboo" of BAPcaribrhythms,
"the liberation of women was the political empowerment of masochists and traitors... women are only faithful to their closest relatives, and even then.... the female orgasm is the apoxysm of a disease able to be excised by female circumcision only"

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 23:44:04 2022 No.20980758 >>20980748 another paraphrase that sticks to my mind, the sexuality of modern woman is that of sodomy

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 00:03:02 2022 No.20980816

>>20980472
This fantasy you have in your head about these so called "Chads" who are perfect in every way is simply not true. Most "Chads" end up getting divorced by their woman because once their youthful good looks go away, there really isnt any substance there.
There are no men who have life on easy mode the way you think. Maybe there is a one in 10000 "Chad" who is like this perfection you are thinking of, but even then I assure you that he struggles with the same exact shit you do.
These "Chads" might get a lot of pussy compared to average men, but they still dont understand the deeper emotional needs of a woman. Chads will call women "crazy" and "psycho" when their woman acts out against them, but they only say this because they do not understand the deeper hole women have that they are not filling.
Chad is just a meme. Not real life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 00:17:11 2022 No.20980864 >>20975949 The Rational Male: preventive medicine (the second book)

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 01:00:07 2022 No.20981011

Didn’t read but take it from someone who’s been with 19 women at 27 that you guys are wasting your time and mental energy.
Women are nice to as a way to relax and get your mind off your work/life temporarily, but they’re still procrastination at the end of the day. Better than wanting to understand women, you should want to understand yourself.

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 01:05:43 2022 No.20981034

>>20980684
A lot of the tradwife pol stuff also contains a lot of transsexual ideation as well. Circumstanially, I joined a political for the first and only time several years ago and every single "trad" poster later became a transsexual, including those from very backwards countries and backgrounds. It was very odd but telling. I would guess that you find that on this board as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 01:06:44 2022 No.20981037 >>20981034 Online political group*. Phoneposting is a bitch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 01:08:28 2022 No.20981042 >>20981037 Why is everyone trannying

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 01:11:00 2022 No.20981048 >>20981042 You tell me. I hate women and am firmly in the Schopie camp.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 02:03:26 2022 No.20981204 >>20975949 You could go outside and talk to them instead of cherry-picking attention-seeking tik-toks designed to piss you off And you could also stop making shit threads, please and thank you

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 03:46:18 2022 No.20981585 >>20977314 What does that have to do with anything they said??? They are literally right you vagina-brained hormone driven retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 07:58:26 2022 No.20982141 >>20978085 based if real

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 08:01:11 2022 No.20982149 File: 158 KB, 817x785, guide to understanding women.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] can't believe no one has posted pic related yet

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 08:12:33 2022 No.20982171 >>20976599 faggot

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 08:27:07 2022 No.20982215 [SPOILER]

>>20975949
>ask classmates what they're researching
>male classmates are all researching fascinating, unique, or at least ambitious things
>woman: "Misogyny in Rome"
>woman: "Misogyny and Hamlet"
>woman: "The intersection of misogyny and periods in Hamlet"
>woman: "Women"
>woman: "Opinions about women having sex in Weimar newspapers"
>woman: "Women in the work of Robert Musil"
>woman: "Vagina"
>woman: "I have a vagina"
>woman: "I'm a woman btw. Vagina here"
>woman: "Sex and periods in gender"
>woman: "Woman perceptions of woman, ,vagina, cooters breasts woman period I'm on my period clitorises in the work of the band Oingo Boingo and Hamlet's Perception of Clitoris Vagina Gender Studies"
>woman: "Queering Gender in Medieval Manuscripts: Your period or MY period?"
>woman: "Misogyny, Periods, and You: Ernst Cassirer on Substance, Function, and My Gay Love Affair with Gender Studies"
>woman: "Women in 'Woman's Work': Gendering Gender in the Social Sciences"
>woman: "Prostitution and Gender in Antebellum Calcutta"
>woman: "Gender"
>woman: "Sex and gender studies"
>woman: "Tampons, pads, and ironclads: Stonewall Jackson and Freebleeding"
>woman: "Einstein contra Bergson: Who rapes me more by having existed?"

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 08:32:10 2022 No.20982231 >>20982215 Then change you study course from gender studies Jesus Christ

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 09:07:31 2022 No.20982323 >>20982215 I seriously can't understand the cognitive dissonance it takes to paint the Weimar in a positive light. Only a woman.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 09:38:26 2022 No.20982408 >>20976731 Anna? Is that you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 10:36:36 2022 No.20982534 >>20980325 tall, facially attractive guy approaches a woman woman: oh hi chad teehee. chad: hey, I have a white collar job and live a comfortable risk aversked life. woman: eww get away from me you creep!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 10:49:29 2022 No.20982559 Just bring back arranged marriages so everyone just has a partner

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 11:17:24 2022 No.20982602 >>>/r9k/ >>>/adv/ >>>/sci/

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 12:04:37 2022 No.20982688 >>20979481 Because they don't actually care about it as much as their brains being fucked out. >>20979561 No.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 13:34:41 2022 No.20982913 >>20975949 Spits on what? Her cunt?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 14:31:34 2022 No.20983079 >>20982231 Not him but that is literally all of the humanities though. And I'm not going to study being a corporation bugman.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 14:49:07 2022 No.20983111 >>20975949 I love this kind of bitches: all about "muh politics" "muh feminism" "muh patriarchy" and then they want to be dominated life animals Truly a blessing

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:18:25 2022 No.20983203
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>>20978116
It means that a woman can only be friends with another in so far as she cannot love them.

Zarathustra thus spake: woman has not yet learned friendship, she knows only how to love.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:19:30 2022 No.20983209 >>20975949 Anna Karenina

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:22:20 2022 No.20983218

>>20978116
Art thou a slave? Then thou canst not be a friend. Art thou a tyrant? Then thou canst not have friends.

Far too long hath there been a slave and a tyrant concealed in woman. On that account woman is not yet capable of friendship: she knoweth only love.

In woman's love there is injustice and blindness to all she doth not love. And even in woman's conscious love, there is still always surprise and lightning and night, along with the light.

As yet woman is not capable of friendship: women are still cats, and birds. Or at the best, cows.

As yet woman is not capable of friendship. But tell me, ye men, who of you are capable of friendship?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:22:41 2022 No.20983219 File: 54 KB, 1024x954, c12.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20978424 All of woman is a riddle, and that riddle hath one answer; it is called pregnancy.

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:24:40 2022 No.20983227

>>20983218
>>20983219
Let man fear woman when she loves. Then she bears every sacrifice and every other thing she accounts valueless.

Let man fear woman when she hates: for man is at the bottom of his soul only wicked, but woman is base.

Whom does woman hate most? -- Thus spoke the iron to the magnet: 'I hate you most, because you attract me, but are not strong enough to draw me towards you.'

The man's happiness is: I will. The woman's happiness is: He will.

'Behold, now the world has become perfect!' -- thus thinks every woman when she obeys with all her love.

And woman has to obey and find a depth for her surface. Woman's nature is surface, a changeable, stormy film upon shallow waters.

But man's nature is deep, its torrent roars in subterranean caves: woman senses its power but does not comprehend it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:30:57 2022 No.20983244 >>20983227 >>20983218 0 pussy seething

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:34:38 2022 No.20983254

>>20983244
>Ah! why do women, I write with affectionate solicitude, condescend to receive a degree of attention and respect from strangers, different from that reciprocation of civility which the dictates of humanity and the politeness of civilization authorise between man and man? And, why do they not discover, when 'in the noon of beauty's power,' that they are treated like queens only to be deluded by hollow respect, till they are led to resign, or not assume, their natural prerogatives? Confined then in cages like the feathered race, they have nothing to do but to plume themselves, and stalk with mock majesty from perch to perch. It is true they are provided with food and raiment, for which they neither toil nor spin; but health, liberty, and virtue, are given in exchange.
>...
>The passions of men have thus placed women on thrones, and, till mankind become more reasonable, it is to be feared that women will avail themselves of the power which they attain with the least exertion, and which is the most indisputable. They will smile,—yes, they will smile, though told that—
> 'In beauty's empire is no mean,
> And woman, either slave or queen,
> Is quickly scorn'd when not ador'd.'
>But the adoration comes first, and the scorn is not anticipated.
>...
>Taught from infancy that beauty is woman's sceptre, the mind shapes itself to the body, and roaming round its gilt cage, only seeks to adorn its prison.

>One is not born, but rather becomes a woman. No biological, psychological, or economic fate determines the figure that the female figure plays in society; it is civilisation as a whole that produces this creature, intermediate between male and eunuch, which is described as feminine.

>At birth, men and women have the same intellectual potential; there is no primary difference in intelligence between the sexes. It is also a fact that potential left to stagnate will atrophy. Women do not use their mental capacity: they deliberately let it disintegrate. After a few years of sporadic training, they revert to a state of irreversible mental torpor. Why do women not make use of their intellectual potential? For the simple reason that they do not need to. It is not essential for their survival. Theoretically it is possible for a beautiful woman to have less intelligence than a chimpanzee and still be considered an acceptable member of society.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:38:31 2022 No.20983272 >>20983254 tl;dr: >I’ve never made a woman orgasm

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:40:37 2022 No.20983286 >>20983272 We're supposed to be quoting female authors, not ourselves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 16:26:50 2022 No.20983436 >>20983272 Literally me

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 16:32:44 2022 No.20983451 >>20983272 How would anyone ever know? You really trust bitches not to lie? I’ve had the same girlfriend for 4 years and I wouldn’t bet big money on the matter. You can never be sure that their orgasms are real.

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 16:39:08 2022 No.20983475

>>20983219
Pregnancy in the most general sense. The will to power of the sexes is manifestly thus; man get boner, women get baby. Perhaps that's the riddle. Women are a black box by necessity. So what is pregnancy really? When women were used as computers during the early days of 'actual' computers, they were pregnant: pregnant with the cognitive load of all the men they were connected with.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 16:59:09 2022 No.20983550 >>20980404 You see, kiddo... it called bait. And you fell for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 17:20:43 2022 No.20983629 >>20978169 lol fkn normie

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 17:43:21 2022 No.20983718 >>20983475 You seem a moron.

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 17:45:02 2022 No.20983726

>>20980816
>but they still dont understand the deeper emotional needs of a woman. Chads will call women "crazy" and "psycho" when their woman acts out against them, but they only say this because they do not understand the deeper hole women have that they are not filling
you are coping heavily, i never claimed chads understand women 100%, but their experience with them is such that they don't see them as mystical as does your average guy who has to cater to the various whims of women, endure their shit tests etc.

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 17:50:59 2022 No.20983739

>>20980684
>but you clearly can't claim men are totally superior to women, if men are still dependent on women in certain ways
Who claims that they are TOTALLY superior? People who claim that they are superior argue that they excel in almost all areas, but they never deny that men still have sexual desire which can't be fulfilled without a woman (assuming that they aren't homosexual or bisexual).
>but that means in a sense they're dependent on women. I.e not superior
*not superior when it comes to sexual things
>women have more power over them
That depends on the person (e.g. women do have more power over some men in a sense that they become pathetic orbiters who literally dream of having sex with some woman they like, but not every man is like that and by that I mean that not everyone will behave like orbiters).
>Idk are they 2 different groups?
If one single post doesn't contain the two contradictory statements it would be unfair to find posts containing one of those separately and then claim that one person is contradicting himself.
From my experience, I either saw people who are for trad shit (submissive trad wife etc.) or those who want women to be more like men i.e. no trad shit, women behaving like men and so on.

>>20981034
>and every single "trad" poster later became a transsexual, including those from very backwards countries and backgrounds
And then everyone clapped.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 18:37:35 2022 No.20983914 >>20975960 /thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 19:10:23 2022 No.20984068 >>20976350 This also explains why the whole "aesthetics" thing (cottage-core, dark academia, etc) is popular with young women. Looking like the thing is literally the same as being the thing to a woman.

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 20:35:24 2022 No.20984369

>>20983726
Everything you're saying stems from the downright retarded belief that women, like men, only care about looks. Ugly men think this is how things work: through lookism, an equally retarded term.
An effeminate man, which is essentially a vacant, shallow, soulless dick haver would of course think that is how things work, because naturally he would tend to believe that getting pussy is all there is to life. "Chads" get cucked, turn to pederasty, get used as a living prop by the woman (yes, retard, it's a thing and it happens), alongside other sorts of things that happen to the lookism adherents the quasi-females, the down right eunuchs that are yourself and your e-celebs/sexual philosophers.
In the words of Weininger: "Woman is sexual, Man is sexual and more" Woman senses that. Those that don't shouldn't be hard nor necessary to comprehend, but you wouldn't know the difference anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 20:36:02 2022 No.20984373 >>20982913 My interpretation was that the 'it' referred to feminism: >me waving goodbye to feminism after a man spits on feminism Which is weird, but maybe she's just naturally submissive. So trainable.

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