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[Anonymous No.20839478]

The “fascist avant-garde” promises some exhilarating mayhem that ostensibly transgresses the ideas of the ruling order but ultimately takes the side of hierarchy and authority. It therefore cannot ever be truly transformative and dialectical. It feigns self-awareness but such a self-awareness is necessarily impossible because it would mean social consciousness. It may seem to “have its finger on the pulse” of the current moment but only ever in an opportunistic way. It tries to make a “universal art that isn’t single-mindedly focused on identity politics” but ends up being just a very generic and provincial representation of bourgeois class consciousness. It often just comes down to delusional mediocrities with their neurotic attachments to saying slurs and whining about cancel culture; all very embarrassing and confirming the utter emptiness of this “transgression” as an aesthetic pose. They know nothing about the real power of art to express truth in all its infinite complexity. To them, it is nothing but a zero-sum game of privilege and vanity and manipulation, a desperate clawing for relevance. The true face of the abortive fascist avant-garde.

[Anonymous No.20839507]

>>20839478
tl;dr
Good luck abolishing all hierarchy.

[Anonymous No.20839515]

>>20839478
Anarchy doesn't work, dumbass

[Anonymous No.20839524]

>>20839478
I want to fuck him so bad

[Anonymous No.20839574]

>>20839515
Neither does fascism, to be fair.

[Anonymous No.20839575]

Fascism bad because... because... it's not communist that's why

[Anonymous No.20839627]

>>20839575

Facism is bad because it’s inefficient.
That’s also why communism is bad.

[Anonymous No.20839637]

>>20839478
>It therefore cannot ever be truly transformative and dialectical
right off the bad we can all see that you dont understand dialectics

[Anonymous No.20839639]

>>20839478
>wanting to abolish hierarchy and authority
Let me guess: you got picked last at PE and you hate your father

[Anonymous No.20839647]

>/lit/ - Endless Summer of 2016

[Anonymous No.20839666]

>dialectics is when the thesis completely transforms into the anti-thesis!

a thread died for this

[Anonymous No.20839672]

>>20839574
define fascism

[Anonymous No.20839686]

>>20839574
It does, its just that greedy Jews like you don't let it happen because it gives you anal bleeding

[Anonymous No.20839688]

>we're going to get rid of hierarchy!
>let's do it! who's in charge?
>nobody
>what?
>everybody
>then what's the plan?
>whatever you want
>I want to be in charge
>everybody has to act individually
>is that a needle in your arm?

[Anonymous No.20839712]

>>20839688
anarchism does not eliminate hierarchies, just unjustifiable ones.

[Anonymous No.20839724]

>>20839478
Obscurantist babble

[Anonymous No.20839731]

>>20839712
thats cope. get an ideology for adults. even if youre one of the anarchists that literally only helps people with food and shelter and shit just call yourself a goody two shoes. its a better ideology

[Anonymous No.20839733]

>>20839712
>anarchism does not eliminate hierarchies
>αν-αρχία does not eliminate αρχή/-αρχία
this is bait

[Anonymous No.20839743]

>>20839478
A bunch of obscurantist babble to basically say "fascism is the system bro it's not revolutionary". Embarrassing commie take.

[Anonymous No.20839905]

>>20839686
When did an openly fascist nation work? Unless you consider Ukraine a successful nation?

[Anonymous No.20839924]

>>20839905
Italy worked pretty well

[Anonymous No.20839926]

>>20839515
Anarchism isn't real and is the factual actual truth of the universe at the same time.

Anarchy can't exist in reality: You can't have "anarchy" in a human society setup, because there will always be structures of power between human interaction, and state will always reform after being abolished.

Anarchy is a fact of reality: We live in an anarchy where you decided to follow orders of other human beings and conform to a superstructure that is not essential to reality, and can choose to disobey it any time you want. Actually, you aren't even disobeying it because obedience doesn't exists too, its just a "spook" part of the fake society-structure.

[Anonymous No.20839933]

>>20839926
>because there will always be structures of power between human interaction
see >>20839712

[Anonymous No.20839937]

>>20839926
anarchy does exist for humans in the form of death, or nature itself
even health or genes

[Anonymous No.20839941]

>>20839933
see >>20839733

[Anonymous No.20839943]

>>20839933
But then it stops being anarchy if there are hierarchies you fucking retard.
>muh brand of anarchism allows for hierarchy
Lmao just like your brand of "genres" allow for more than 2 genres. Just go neck yourself.

[Anonymous No.20839946]

>>20839943
>But then it stops being anarchy if there are hierarchies you fucking retard.
no, see>>20839712

[Anonymous No.20839952]

>>20839733
It’s a taste of Anarchist theory. Why won’t you accept it from the anarchists themselves? Why only accept their detractors, the liberals false notions?

[Anonymous No.20839953]

>>20839946
see >>20839733 again

[Anonymous No.20839963]

>>20839627
the trains ran on time, i dont know what youre talking about

[Anonymous No.20839964]

>>20839952
It's a taste of Trans theory. Why won't you accept it from the transsexuals themselves? Why only accept their detractors, the conservatives false notions?

[Anonymous No.20839976]

>>20839926
Great job

Justifying Bullshit

[Anonymous No.20839984]

>>20839905
>Ukraine
>fascist

Not even close

[A Pneumatic !zHiZwFUpHY No.20839998]

>>20839478
You already posted this thread, gypsy LARPer. And I already posted my response:

>psychoanalysis:
>prey eyes.
>the cause of his fashy LARP.

>discredited (if defending fascism isn't discrediting enough)
the thread died soon after and this one should too.

don't feed vapid attention whores, kids.
herbs

[Anonymous No.20840004]

>>20839905
I guess capitalism is the only correct ideology.

[Anonymous No.20840009]

>>20839998
Post med shelf, tranny

[A Pneumatic !zHiZwFUpHY No.20840011]

>>20840004
capitalism is the only system that works, most of all. but it doesn't have to be as rotten and sophistic as it currently is

there never was a proper moral reform of capitalism.

[A Pneumatic !zHiZwFUpHY No.20840015]

>>20840009
i'm neither a tranny nor a prey-eyed gypsie LARPer!
guess you could call me a truly happy, well-adjusted, self-actualized person. LARPers like buzzwords, have at them

herbs

[Anonymous No.20840021]

>>20840011
Capitalism is the only sistem*
The question is if the capitalism being employed is constrained by moral/ethics/laws or not.
Even communism is capitalistic in its roots, but there is only one real citizen, the State.

[A Pneumatic !zHiZwFUpHY No.20840034]

>>20840021
there's a kernel of truth in what you said but the way you formulated is too simplistic.

i think it was Evola who said
>fascism and communism are two sides of the same materialist coin
I paraphrase this and say
>modern/hitherto capitalism and communism are two sides of the same materialist coin (or shekel...)
there's a deeper truth hidden in this paraphrase. "modern capitalism" (or what I prefer to call hitherto capitalism, to signal the need not for a rejection of capitalism but for an embracement and deep, thorough moral reform) replaces fascism

the link between capitalism and fascism has also not been studied enough in mainstream marxism and post-marxism. i hate sophisticated hylics so much. so close to the Truth, yet so far

anyway i should leave this shitty attention whore/LARP/bait thread. you'll know where to find me. i wish you more than luck, and PBUY

[Anonymous No.20840035]

/pol/ would be woke as long as they had a Hitler figure they could follow who lifted weights and beat people on the street for saying the wrong words.

[Anonymous No.20840049]

Tldr but yeah lefties are not okay now that RW is cool

[Anonymous No.20840053]

>>20840011
that's actually wrong, capitalism leads to massive decay, witness globohomo
almost everything before the industrial revolution worked fine

>>20840035
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.20840056]

>>20840053
>almost everything
by this I mean systems, not literally every period
mostly from the neolithic to the iron age

[Anonymous No.20840236]

>>20839478
Miss me with that poor vs rich shit. Life goes deeper than pure materialism.
HONESTY VS CORRUPTION is the true struggle.

[A Pneumatic !zHiZwFUpHY No.20840242]

>>20840053
>almost everything before the industrial revolution worked fine
yeah but you can never return to that you dumb fucking reactionist

herbing this dumb fucking thread. dunno where the mods are

[A Pneumatic !zHiZwFUpHY No.20840248]

>>20840236
>HONESTY VS CORRUPTION is the true struggle.
absolutamente baseado
but it has implications to the material...

and Marx understood it all.
critically, I mean. his prescription (intermediate socialism) was a real failure, but his analysis, man he had it all figured out

herbs

[Anonymous No.20840252]

monkeys and glowcummies, my friends. then all hell breaks out.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/yHlXvkOBX61T/

[Anonymous No.20840258]

>>20840015
You're a dumb child who's having a two-week manic episode/psychotic break. Take your fucking meds you spaz.

[Anonymous No.20840268]

>>20840248
Don't agree with me you filthy tripfag. Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.20840277]

>>20840248
>absolutamente baseado
Oh so you're a huemonkey, this explains everything.

[A Pneumatic !zHiZwFUpHY No.20840295]

>>20840277
no i just think brazil is exquisitely hilarious, anon
>>20840268
dude you're the guy either attention whoring on Twitter and on here due to not enough attention scored at Yale, OR simping THAT dude. you are the one who should kill himself lmao

herbs

[Anonymous No.20840379]

>>20839712
>unjustifiable
Subjective

[Anonymous No.20840385]

>>20839478
This is an awful read. I am not reading all that cinic nigger post

[Anonymous No.20840397]

Faggot.

[Anonymous No.20840443]

>>20840397
Dilate.

[Anonymous No.20840583]

>>20839964
rent free

[Anonymous No.20840593]

>>20839952
Who decides what is a justifiable hierarchy? Perhaps some kind of...authority figure?

[Anonymous No.20840598]

>>20839478
>It therefore cannot ever be truly transformative
If you actually believe this then what's the issue?

[Anonymous No.20840650]

>>20839627
Hitler was able to almost single handedly restore Germany and hold off against the entire world for several years wtf you mean inefficient you shit head if he wasn't busy doing meth and stayed pragmatic instead of autisticly obsessing over every thing he could have won seized a shit load of the east for oil and to colonize and been done.

Italy would have been impressive if they didn't waste resources on making a sand empire to appease Mussolinis ego. God bless that silly dago, he's a saint in heaven, but if he didn't waste his energy on fucking Ethiopia things would have been great for him. His biggest mistake was not shooting badoglio for incompetence and for trusting the british when they assured him they wouldn't condemn his invasion.

Japan was basically already Fascist and ww2 was just a formality. Shinto is the religious embodiment of Fascist values in it's caricature form.

Besides Fascism as an ideology is literally just "me ne frego". It was designed to be an anti party and to be reactionary. It was originally parliamentarian then oligarchical then whatever the fuck. It's the exact opposite of "inefficient" because the whole concept is deisgned around flexibility because the old ways cause nations to talk themselves to death, that's what Mussolini says in My Rise and that's what he wrote in Doctrine of Fascism. The blueprint of Fascism is men being men in slightly homoerotic hypermasculine ways and that's it. It can be democratic, it can be dictatorial, it works either way.

That's why I hate you fucking fake academics that pretend to know what your talking about when all you do is watch some shitty youtube video and maybe read 2 books. You want to learn what a Fascist is? Go run a mile, deadlift and throw the football around with your abnormally large family. Maybe some exercise will fix those soft saggy tits and make you look like a man. Nerd. Post bicep or I won't take any refutation seriously.

[Anonymous No.20840830]

>>20840650
>designed around flexibility
First post I've read that grasps this concept. gg bre

[Anonymous No.20840842]

>>20840830
it's basically pragmatism for bodybuilders

[Anonymous No.20840846]

>>20840650
>waste resources on making a sand empire to appease Mussolinis ego
I know very little about Mussolini. What happened?

[Anonymous No.20840870]

>>20840846
tldr part of Fascist Italy's built-in program of dreaming big and identifying italy with the roman image was to demand colonial and imperial territories for italy, so mussolini kept invading stuff like ethiopia (so italy could play the Great Game / Scramble for Africa game too) and during WW2 kept invading the balkans and greece and stuff which many argue was a distraction for the germans who kept having to come in and clean up when the italians began losing, needlessly opening new fronts

it's a bit more complicated because a lot of corradini style "proletarian nations" discourse was based on the absolute necessity of securing colonial territories to avoid being cut off and encircled by total anglo dominance of the globe, they needed colonial territories both as bargaining chips and as salients for expansion into areas with resources (in the german case, food)

the whole ww1-interwar-ww2 period was one big war against a continental bloc struggling to assert itself (see naumann's mitteleuropa concept) vs. an anglo-american financial-industrial bloc that knew it had basically absorbed france as a vassal state (via the paris stock exchange), the entire first 50 years of the 20th century were just the different powers moving their pieces around, nothing was done in isolation, any time you see something like "X was stupid to do Y" or "X reacted to Y by doing Z" it's probable that it was part of a much longer discourse on the absolute necessity of doing Y because Y is a sine qua non of survival in an anglo-dominated world

[Anonymous No.20840879]

Yeah okay, fascism is cringe and for massive tryhard larpers.

If you want a stable, steady way to influence the world in a positive way, you should decellerate. That's why I'm a comfy organic conservative decellerationist.

Festina lente frens

[Anonymous No.20840883]

>>20840879
fascism is just the emergency/war state of organic conservatism

when the anglo-american establishment stops manipulating currency exchanges to crash your economy and fomenting fifth columns inside your nation to cause color revolutions, you can deactivate fascism and go back to normal organic healthy society mode. until then you need an aristocracy that can't be corrupted and isn't reliant on purely "economic" flows to sustain itself (economic flows entirely controlled by your foreign enemies)

[Anonymous No.20840924]

>>20840870
Gotcha. Thank you for the informative response.

[Anonymous No.20840994]

>>20840035
You can see this in people that broke off from /pol/, kiwifarms and other places and adopted wokeness so they can continue bullying but this time without any consequences.
I can respect /pol/ for standing in it and not hiding behind "empathy".

[Anonymous No.20841005]

>>20840883
>fascism is just the emergency/war state of organic conservatism
Mussolini would respectfully disagree
Hitler would disagree and call you a kike

OP is so retarded
the guy in the OP is retarded
this thread is retarded
go to the New Atheism 2.0 thread