/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.20807626]

>Most nations are lucky if they can produce even one great novel
>China has four
How does can any other country compete? England only has Middlemarch, America only has Moby Dick, Spain only has Don Quixote, Germany and France and Italy have nothing.

[Anonymous No.20807633]

>>20807626
>france has nothing
>doesn't know about Gargantua and Pantagruel

[Anonymous No.20807637]

>>20807633
I've read it. I find it too disjointed, starting from Book 3, to be on par with Don Quixote and the likes.

[Anonymous No.20807645]

>>20807637
What about Les Miserables?

[Anonymous No.20807648]

>>20807645
The digression about the Parisian Sewers is fitting because the novel is shit.

[Anonymous No.20807664]

>>20807626
>Italy has nothing
>the first thing you see when you open /lit/ is a picture of Dante's Paradise

[Anonymous No.20807718]

>>20807626
China is fucking old compared to those other countries. Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_American_Novel#Notable_candidates check these candidates for other "great American novels" if you're actually being serious.

[Anonymous No.20807738]

>>20807664
OP said novel, so Dante doesn't really count. But yes, as a work of literature, The Divine Comedy is definitely one of the best

[Anonymous No.20808056]

>>20807626
Maybe not 4, but America has the meme trilogy:
>Confederacy of Dunces
>Gravity's rainbow
>Infinite Jest
3 is almost as good as 4, and we've had a lot less time to write books than China.

[Anonymous No.20808152]

>spain have only Don Quixote.

Yeah Pio Baroja, Federico Garcia Lorca, Quevedo, Machado...etc didn't exist.

VIVA ESPAÑA Y SU GRAN LITERATURA

[Anonymous No.20808440]

>>20807626
>Middlemarch
Well if we're going as low as Middlemarch, then England has about 14 great novels and America has about 12

Also you missed the 3 other secret greats novels of China: The Plum in the Golden Vase, The Scholars and Investitures of the Gods

All three quite excellent, I'd also suggest anything on The Generals of the Yang Family

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Chinese_Novels
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investiture_of_the_Gods
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Generals_of_the_Yang_Family

[Anonymous No.20808512]

>>20807633
>>doesn't know about Gargantua and Pantagruel
Never heard about them.

[Anonymous No.20808646]

>>20807626
they probably have more than four

[Anonymous No.20808647]

>>20807626
>France and Italy have nothing
I hope you die the most unpleasant death you deserve you slanteyed fuck

[Anonymous No.20808934]

>>20807626
>Italy has nothing
Are you fucking retarded?

[Anonymous No.20809118]

>no one's mentioned Russia yet
>War and Peace
>Anna Karenina
>Dead Souls
>The Brothers Karamazov
All within one century

[Anonymous No.20809124]

>France has nothing

[Anonymous No.20809132]

>>20807648
filtered

[Anonymous No.20809139]

Ireland:
See: James Joyce’s bibliography
(Okay yes dubliners is short stories but your mom is a whore.)
Also america has blood meridian I don’t give a fuck how much it’s memed it’s a damn good book and we all know it.

[Anonymous No.20809181]

>>20808440
I'm noticing a distinct lack of Jin Yong novels on that chart. Jin Yong basically invented the genre of martial-arts fantasy (wuxia) that is so popular all over the world; his writings are extremely ubiquitous in China and it's a shame it's only started to be translated so recently. Want to let interested anons know that his 'legend of the condor heroes' series (which is arguably the most popular one) was recently fully translated and released in four books available as epubs.

[Anonymous No.20809222]

>>20809181
Yeah, Jon Yong's novels are fantastic and fairly crucial to understanding modern Chinese culture. Practically every Chinese person is at least familiar with the novels. I'm patiently waiting for good translations of Deer and the Cauldron and The Smiling, Proud Wanderer

[Anonymous No.20809973]

>>20809181
Yes, the list is also lacking The Spring and Autumn Annals

[Anonymous No.20810021]

China's greatest work of literature: Xi Jinping Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era, which surpasses The Adjustment Of Controversies or whatever those goblet words are doing in Zhuangzi.

Sadly in the United Kingdom our greatest literature is mostly deficient in thinking and ambition; clearly there exists a chasm between what words can express and what actions can actually do.

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[Anonymous No.20810024]

>>20807626
>Italy has nothing
Weren't chinks supposed to be intelligent?

[Anonymous No.20810027]

>>20807633
Is the greatest literature of France that fox Reynart the rooster Chaunticlere and that wolf Isengrim. Actually those names do not sound that French hmmm

[Anonymous No.20810028]

>>20810024
I read some Calvino I was disappointed, it felt a bit like lasciate ogni speranza

[Anonymous No.20810105]

>>20808152
OP said novels and almost all you listed are poets... I'd add Life of Lazarillo de Tormes and, if not for the genre controversy, La Celestina. Maybe something of José Cela. The rest of novelists even if they are good (Galdós, Unamuno, Delibes, even the novels by Valle-Inclán for example) are not well known.

[Anonymous No.20810405]

>>20807626
>England only has Middlemarch
Nigga you retarded.

[Anonymous No.20810430]

>>20808934
Name five.

[Anonymous No.20810453]

>>20807626
Do you know how many people there are in Chinamenland?

[Anonymous No.20810483]

>>20810453
like 1 million, I heard they exaggerate the numbers. It is all fake