/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.20794995]

State of Decay Edition

Previous Thread:>>20784958

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[Anonymous No.20795002]

Read litrpg and xianxia.

[Anonymous No.20795004]

BAKKER.
IS.
KING.

[Anonymous No.20795006]

>the janny is a fucking litrpgtard
that explains everything

[Anonymous No.20795014]

>>20795006
At least he isn't the infinite filler slice of vapidity fag.

[Anonymous No.20795021]

>>20794995
I'm actually playing State of Decay at the moment. I just wish the AI was smarter and could do more things without having to use the radio. The dialogue is also bad.

[Anonymous No.20795029]

>>20793628
>>TWI 6.52K
The Tirq arc was so boring the first time I read it. It's decent on a re-read, though. And at the end we are getting Fetohep, the best Chandrar ever had to offer

Btw, how did you like 6.51A?

[Anonymous No.20795062]

>>20795029
well, i still don't care about flos, but i am somewhat invested in tiqr's fate so these chapters have been good so far. or maybe it's just because i came right from reading the mediocre Vol.4 K chapters.
>Btw, how did you like 6.51A?
i'm dissapointed with pisces, but it was to be expected i guess. but i liked the attempt at humanizing az'kerash and the parallels drawn to pisces.

[Anonymous No.20795074]

Is the Heaven war arc the end of fun Meng Hao?

[Anonymous No.20795093]

>>20795062
Wait, have you gone straight to 6.52K or have you read 6.12 K and the rest first?

[Anonymous No.20795103]

>>20795093
i've been reading K chapters for a week straight after 6.51A.
I'm caught up with everything (the V5 flos interlude, the earlier V6 K-block) now, thank god.

[Anonymous No.20795125]

>>20795103
Congratulations for pushing through, Anon. The rest of K chapters doesn't focus as much on Flos.

[Anonymous No.20795152]

The writing is really fun and glokta is awesome. Can't say the plot is that interesting so far though. The world's kinda bland too.

[Anonymous No.20795161]

Anyone read Terminal Park by Gary Shipley? Not sure if it's sci fi exactly but Sheesh

[Anonymous No.20795169]

>>20795125
i didn't have any issues with the chapters after V4 to be honest. even flos himself is getting more bearable now that he is taking more actions befitting his station.
in V4 and prior he was basically moping all day and yet everyone loved him and praised him to an uncanny degree, it was unbearable.
now that i've seen him do more stuff, it also becomes a bit easier to swallow his myth/legend. for example i liked how he broke up the petty feud between nawal started with that other blacksmith. or how he dealt with the germina and hellios, where we saw that he truly does believe in the "right of conquest" (whereas before he almost seemed like a pacifist, despite being a conqueror. which is just ridiculous).
those kind of moments do help a lot.

[Anonymous No.20795172]

>>20794590
The settings don't mesh well enough for it to work.
And both of their immediate reactions to dangerous intelligent people is "I should kill this guy right now" and then doing it.
If you trapped both of them in some sort of confessional where they could only communicate I don't think they'd have much to talk about.
And if you swapped their positions a Dunyain isn't that much of an oddity in RI world, and Fang Yuan is just slightly above average compared to a normal man without his hundreds of years of experience, and even with them he's on par with a Nonman.

[Anonymous No.20795183]

>Solaris

What did the recon pilot see that he didn't want put on record?

The gigantic swimming baby was creepy enough.

[Anonymous No.20795209]

What's some edgy necromancer skeleton stuff?
I've only ever been able to find CHYOAs and the slants do a lot of LNs about this kind of thing, but the writing is tough to stomach.

[Anonymous No.20795213]

>>20795209
The Wandering Inn

[Anonymous No.20795240]

>>20795209
The Wandering Inn, Never Die Twice and Sylver Seeker. TWI has the highest quality content in this regard, but it's not the main plot of the story, although necromancy is touched upon almost constantly. I particularly recommend Never Die Twice as its relatively short and finished. Still, TWI would be the time investement for you. Sylver Seeker is not bad, but it's quality and setting varies, even though the main protagonsit is an Arch Necromancer.

[Anonymous No.20795255]

read cradle

[Anonymous No.20795259]

>>20795240
I remember reading NDT but I don't remember actually finishing it. Can you give me the plot checkpoints and their associated chapters to help me find where I was up to?

[Anonymous No.20795262]

>>20795152
First book is a bit of a drag and is more focused on characters. Plot really picks up from the beginning of the second one.

[Anonymous No.20795270]

Just finished the 1500 published pages of the Harry Potter fanfic Blood Crest. I thought I was only approaching the halfway mark because I miscounted the pages, so suddenly coming to the end gave a feeling of relief like being released from prison.

[Anonymous No.20795275]

Reposting from previous thread: has anybody read Anderson's King of Ys? It's coming in the post and I'm hoping for a good read. The Broken Sword was amazing.

[Anonymous No.20795278]

>>20795259
I read the story long ago so I can't pinpoint exactly where the major plot points were. But it's not a long story, barely 500 pages, so you will get where you finished soon enough.

[Anonymous No.20795287]

Writers don't owe you books. Pls send money tho

[Anonymous No.20795327]

>>20795209
>edgy
overlord
but personally i think it's too masturbatory.

[Anonymous No.20795354]

shoutout to the anon that recommended this, it was exactly what i was looking for

medieval military campaigns
magic
knights
mercinaries
good bunch of pov's, villains too
romance
interesting world
well written
quite dark at times

really recommend it to anyone trying to scratch that malazan/tbc itch

[Anonymous No.20795366]

>>20795354
nice

[Anonymous No.20795373]

>>20795270
I want a hp world grimdark movie/series that follows Theseus Scamander as an auror uncovering all kinds of dark going on's and has john wick style magic duels

[Anonymous No.20795413]

>>20795327
Overlord started out nice but I didn't like how quickly it devolved. Too much haremshit basically. LNs seem to do that all the time.
>>20795278
I started reading Sylver. I came in wanting edgy shit but this is actually surprisingly good. The characters are very likable.
>>20795354
Red Knight is really nice at the start. I absolutely loved the way it just takes a mercenary company and drops them in a fantasy world to hunt monsters.
I ended up dropping it eventually since the story developed in kind of lame political ways instead of sticking to the adventurous aspects.

[Anonymous No.20795429]

>>20795354
yea its prety good too bad its last books become too much bout saving the world

[Anonymous No.20795472]

Holy shit why is Sanderson going full retard with stormlight?
book 1 stormlight
>ten heartbeats to summon a shardblade
>absorb stormlight and spend it to change gravity
book 4/5 stormlight
>rhythms
>aluminium
>seons
>voidlight
>mishram
>cognitive shadows
>hundreds of pages of mental health bloat
>really every 5-10 pages there's some other reference which you need to have read one of his 50 books to understand

[Anonymous No.20795482]

>>20795472
the fist book was already bolted enough, it needs to be culled to half.
I dont think i can take more of that.

[Anonymous No.20795503]

>>20795482
I stopped after the 2nd prologue, I seriously don't understand how anyone ever got further than that.

[Anonymous No.20795508]

>>20795503
i wanted to see what all the talk was about. So a slogged true it.

[Anonymous No.20795510]

>you WILL read every single one of my reddit AMAs, interview transcripts and youtube comments so that you know what's going on in my books

[Anonymous No.20795531]

Any other scifi xianxia of note?

[Anonymous No.20795535]

>>20795510
The worst part is that I already do all that and I haven't even read anything other than his WoT books

[Anonymous No.20795538]

>promoting furry inflation fanart of your characters
what level of autism is this?

[Anonymous No.20795555]

>>20795413
Yeh I like the premise of a lot of isekais but when they start to turn to haremshit I just lose interest real fast

[Anonymous No.20795558]

>>20795538
You should see the scaly shit that the Age of Fire series provoked.

[Anonymous No.20795560]

>>20795531
I've heard good things about "Forty Millenniums of Cultivation"

[Anonymous No.20795616]

>>20795558
You mean in this general or in fantasy readers when the books were released two decades ago? I've read the few books of the series but am unaware if its cultural impact

[Anonymous No.20795627]

>>20795152
another cool guy is introduced in book 2
enjoy anon

[Anonymous No.20795633]

I'll put Red Knight on my list after finishing ISSTH

[Anonymous No.20795644]

Was Amon intentionally written to be a homosexual in LotM? He's getting so much romantic subtext with Klein and they're going on a roadtrip together now

[Anonymous No.20795647]

>>20795209
Gideon the Ninth

[Anonymous No.20795657]

>>20795627
Cosca is better in every single book he appears in

[Anonymous No.20795676]

>>20795644
i don't remember him making that kind of impression

[Anonymous No.20795682]

>>20795270
Strap in for the one chapter every six month wait, that is if it's not permanently on hiatus. While you're here, what do you think about it, and got any recs, not necessarily just for hp? All the other fic I liked ALSO just mysteriously stopped updating midway through years ago. Seems like a common hazard of the medium.

[Anonymous No.20795695]

>>20795531
All the one's I've read rapidly turn into shit, or into conventional xiaxia, and then into shit.
>>20795560
Interesting start, but then the cheat-skill is so ludicrously overpowered it makes the entire rest of the characters, setting, and plot completely meaningless and it's just a montage of the MC effortlessly shitting on everyone while they kiss his feet and praise him. I dropped it when people started literally paying him to beat them up because he's just so amazingly talented it's an honor to be punched by him.

[Anonymous No.20795700]

>>20795644
>>20795676
Yeah, he's less gay lover and more kill bill skin suit.

[Anonymous No.20795701]

>>20795287
I hope he dies soon

[Anonymous No.20795745]

>>20795287
Talks shit a lot, lies, everyone that has met him for more than a few minutes finds him insufferable. I bet Sanderson's successful Kickstarter really got under his skin kek

[Anonymous No.20795864]

>>20795287
It's ironic how both he and Sapkowski constantly complain about sexism and the lack of female characters in fantasy but then when they try to write women themselves, they end up creating the most archetypal fantasy female characters ever (bitchy, constantly bickering amongst themselves, competing for the male protagonist's attention, need men to save them, have no real goals of their own, etc.)

[Anonymous No.20795943]

>>20795864
So they write realistic women?

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.20795950]

>>20794995
The Water Knife - Paolo Bacigalupi (2015)

I wanted to like this more than I did. This was my second attempt to read it, the first was around the time it was released. I remain convinced that Bacigalupi is better at short fiction than novels. I wouldn't call this a page turner, but rather somewhat the opposite, it was almost like there was resistance to continuing on. That's odd because I had moderate interest and liking for it, despite its many problems.

The plot was about a contestation over legal documents about water rights. Considering the wider events of the book they may mean even less than you'd think, but it can be difficult to come to terms with the changing reality of the world. At least that's what it was about at a high level. On a page to page basis it's miserable people being terrible to each other. There's murder, torture, drugs, and sex. Based on what others have written, this has caused several readers a lot of distress. I think that may be due to how and where the book was promoted when it was released. It found an audience, but I don't think it was quite the right one. As for the sex, the first major scene was with a drugged out teenage lesbian in a threesome with a man due to a life or death situation. The second followed shortly after a rescue from a non-sexual torture scene and involved erotic asphyxiation.

None of the three viewpoint characters could be really described as the protagonist. I didn't find any of the characters, whether viewpoint or not, to be sympathetic. Based on my previous experiences with the author, that's intentional. There's the titular water knife, a male fixer who does whatever his boss requires to maintain her control. Then there's the female journalist who seems determined to break the silence and report on what's really happening, but maybe it's just that she can't admit to herself why she really does it. Lastly there's the teenage refugee who's trying to make the best of a awful situation, but the world is intentionally rigged against her.

The setting was mostly implied as it almost entirely take place in Phoenix, Arizona. The US is collapsing due to climate disasters, which are more severe in the West. Each state now has its own sovereign military and the western states have seceded in every way except legally. There isn't outright war between the states, but it's close, and indirect casualties are mounting. The federal government pretends there's nothing wrong and the states do the same. California increasingly ignores any semblance of the rule of law and comes ever closer to taking everything for themselves. Texas has already collapsed. Mexico has become the Cartel States. China is ascendant and is economically and culturally taking over the parts of the US that the federal government has disregarded. The time period is unclear, though Fallout 9 is referenced. The Water Knife does give Fallout vibes.

Rating: 3.5/5

[Anonymous No.20795957]

>>20795943
yeah but they also complain when others do the same

[Anonymous No.20796063]

>>20795002
I'm reading Infinite Realm does that count as both?

[Anonymous No.20796221]

>>20795950
>As for the sex, the first major scene was with a drugged out lesbian in a threesome with a man due to a life or death situation. The second followed shortly after a rescue from a non-sexual torture scene and involved erotic asphyxiation.
Sounds like garbage

[Anonymous No.20796244]

>>20796221
Sex is an automatic disqualifier for some, especially if it isn't fade to black, let alone not entirely vanilla. That's why I included it. It could also interest as well. It's not the focus of the book, they just happen because it's something people do.

Are romance/sex scenes usually garbage to you?

[Anonymous No.20796250]

tfw Lady Wuvren will never seduce you, play with you like a toy and break your heart

[Anonymous No.20796260]

>>20796250
>wanting to be seduced by some hag who could be your grandmother

[Anonymous No.20796269]

>>20796260
Age without the corresponding looks is naught but experience

[Anonymous No.20796370]

Are there any good sexy/erotic fantasies? Seems like it would be good for it because of the medieval setting and all that slave stuff.
I read in a book a commentary on a short story by Samuel Delany (who I've never read) about some slave-revolutionary with a slave-boy companion who wanted who just wanted him to fuck him. I'm not gay but that was kinda hot. Something like but straight would be great.

[Anonymous No.20796447]

>>20796370
A lot of Japanese web/light novels have literally slave girls.

[Anonymous No.20796488]

>>20796447
Ok but are they *good*? I probably should have been more clear: I'm not looking for porn; I'm looking for actual good stories that just happens to feature this kind of thing.

[Anonymous No.20796507]

>>20796488
Good luck with that.

[Anonymous No.20796531]

>>20795950
>As for the sex, the first major scene was with a drugged out lesbian in a threesome with a man due to a life or death situation. The second followed shortly after a rescue from a non-sexual torture scene and involved erotic asphyxiation.
Sounds like trash.

[Anonymous No.20796536]

>>20796370
>>20796488
>Wants non-pornographic erotic slave fantasies that also must be at least somewhat literary

[Anonymous No.20796540]

>>20796531
>>20796244

[Anonymous No.20796558]

We need pure maidens and paladins.

[Anonymous No.20796583]

>>20795373
>I want a hp world grimdark movie/series

[Anonymous No.20796595]

>>20796583
H.P. Lovecraft, Harry Potter Lovecraft.

[Anonymous No.20796597]

>>20796488
try lucia.
it's korean, i liked it a lot.

[Anonymous No.20796614]

>>20796558
That modern meaning of Paladin is literally from D&D. Try harder.

[Anonymous No.20796636]

>>20796614
What is chivalry?

[Anonymous No.20796659]

>>20794995
I once dreamed there were some books that rivaled Harry Potter, but were better written. Something Something involved about a room full of mirrors.

Damn I do wish there would be Harry Potter like clones that finally make it good.
>magic
>wizard & witches
>cool cast of main characters
>them growing up, showing them as teens with romance and shit
>cool world building etc.

[Anonymous No.20796681]

memes aside is bakker any good? thinking of ordering the darkness that comes before

[Anonymous No.20796688]

>>20796636
The romantic sort is a literary fiction.

[Anonymous No.20796701]

>>20796688
I was referring to fiction in the first place.

[Anonymous No.20796707]

>>20796681
All those memes had to start from somewhere. A thing is not embraced to such an extent on this website unless it has some quality to it that appeals on a fundamental level.

[Anonymous No.20796709]

>>20796701
So we need to make fantasies a reality? Ok.

[Anonymous No.20796717]

>>20796707
Nice false narrative.

[Anonymous No.20796780]

>>20795472
It almost feels like everything after book two was a team of ghostwriters. Or his editors are terrified to tell their cash cow that his work isn't ready for print yet.

[Anonymous No.20796791]

>>20796780
he lets an AI write his books
it's a testament to the intelligence of sanderfags that they still haven't caught up to it

[Anonymous No.20796969]

can somebody remake this chart without the hunger games crap

[Anonymous No.20796988]

>>20795682
it was interesting to have such a subtle right-wing subtext throughout the book, like how the vampires are essentially pedo groomers and Lupin says "[lycanthropy] would be eliminated in a generation if we would just choose to stop converting people".

[Anonymous No.20796999]

>>20796969
Hard to be a God isn't even post apocalyptic, it's about scientists going to an alien planet that never reached enlightenment

[Anonymous No.20797001]

>>20796536
Bingo.

[Anonymous No.20797008]

>>20796999
I know. It's also missing some obvious picks like Day of the Triffids or Lucifer's Hammer

[Anonymous No.20797072]

>>20796969
Like this?

[Anonymous No.20797075]

Hunger Games rule supreme
Chart editor rage and scream
Rage so hard they blow steam
Can't compete even in a dream

[Anonymous No.20797182]

>>20795943
>>20795957
realistic women are not worth writing about
Tolkien knew this, all the old masters did

[Anonymous No.20797205]

Reading memories of ice lads. Malazan is so good it's actually ruined fantasy for me. Nothing else I read comes anywhere close to this.

[Anonymous No.20797224]

>>20797205
Same but with Bakker, he ruined fantasy for me, now everything post-Bakker is trash.

[Anonymous No.20797247]

>>20797224
Same but Sanderson, he ruined genre fiction for me. The unsurpassed accessibility is a must for what is throwaway trash in any case.

[Anonymous No.20797251]

After reading:
>Stormlight 1, 2, 3 and Edgedancer
>Warbreaker
>Mistborn 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and Secret History
>Silence in the Forest of Hell (the one I liked the most)
I feel like his work is decent (5/10); not good, not terrible, the things that I don't like about his books are:
>His pacing is all over the the place, you get paragraph after paragraph of mostly irrelevant stuff, then you get 10 pages of autistically detailed fight scenes where shit is all over the place; it feels like going on a highway with stop lights every half a mile.
>His main characters all have "quirky" personalities; and he recycles most of this quirky personalities from book to book.
>After a book or two, you discover that there isn't really any sense of urgency; no matter what challenges, tribulations and decision the characters face, there is always a solution waiting for them right then and there.

[Anonymous No.20797299]

>>20797251
I don't think Sanderson necessarily reuses personalities so much as he reuses arcs. He even mentioned how he made Venli a POV character over Eshonai because he realised he already had too many "paragon soldiers doing the right thing", what with Kaladin and Dalinar, etc. They're not the same personality but they have similar arcs.

[Anonymous No.20797302]

>>20796969
looks like a pretty shit chart

[Anonymous No.20797313]

[Anonymous No.20797321]

>>20797299
I don't know, anon, I found Shallan (SLA), Marasi and Steris (Mistborn 2nd Eran); and Siri (Warbreaker) almost carbon copies from one another. His "witty" male characters (Hoid, Breeze, Lightsong, etc.) are also almost identical.

[Anonymous No.20797371]

>>20797251
>autistically detailed fight scenes
My biggest problem with Sanderson, it can be good for a final fight but he does it with every fight.

[Anonymous No.20797399]

>>20794995
State of Decay had a lot of good ideas that it just threw into the trash with their bizarre hard left turn into AIs and satellites with 2.

[Anonymous No.20797406]

>>20797321
He thinks his "witty" make characters make pussy cream, but he fails to understand what makes women cream, it's not wittiness, only Bakker understand how to rile women up and make them cream and scream in book reviews, he makes them so horny they rage and cream, he is a master at making male characters unlike Sanderson the witty cuck.

[Anonymous No.20797407]

>>20795002
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.20797412]

>>20796969
No Earth Abides? Come on.

[Anonymous No.20797414]

Read Bakker and Reverend Insanity.

[Anonymous No.20797430]

>>20797399
What's wrong with 2? I heard they fixed most of the problems with the Juggernaut Edition.

[Anonymous No.20797469]

>>20797414
I don't believe for a second that someone would read bakker and also mtl'd chink powerwank at the same time

[Anonymous No.20797508]

>>20797469
Cope

[Anonymous No.20797537]

https://youtu.be/fEBSx075AKs

[Anonymous No.20797540]

>>20797313
>when Ren Zu was infinitely more human, moral, and likeable than every Gu Master to follow him

[Anonymous No.20797569]

>>20795472
I just started book three, Oathbringer. So far I very greatly enjoyed the entire series. I hope it won’t go downhill too far.

[Anonymous No.20797588]

[Anonymous No.20797594]

>>20797205
>>20797224
>>20797247
I like all three of these but also dislike all three of these.

[Anonymous No.20797603]

>>20797414
You've never read bakker.

[Anonymous No.20797615]

>>20797603
You'll never understand Bakker.

[Anonymous No.20797635]

>>20797615
You've never read bakker.

[Anonymous No.20797646]

>>20797588
Oh, thank Sweden!

[Anonymous No.20797650]

>>20797603
>>20797615
>>20797635
that's sounds incredible great desu

[Anonymous No.20797651]

>>20797635
You'll never understand Bakker.

[Anonymous No.20797690]

Nothing makes me unmotivated to read than opening my kindle and seeing Chapter X: Elvi.

[Anonymous No.20797794]

What are some good libertarian sci-fi/fantasy writers? What about the most cherished books with libertarian ideals in those genres?

[Anonymous No.20797848]

>>20797794
Prometheus Award

[Anonymous No.20797876]

>>20797848
Sounds promising, thank you.

[Anonymous No.20797939]

>>20797794
I heard Elric Melnibone is libertarian but I haven't read it yet.

[Anonymous No.20797944]

>>20797939
bait? moorcock is a communist

[Anonymous No.20797947]

>>20797944
He is an authoritarian? based and libtards BTFO'd.

[Anonymous No.20797964]

>>20795152
You will hate how book 3 ends
Gay nigger writer
Sorry bro!

[Anonymous No.20797983]

I read Ubik
It was good
was Pat lying about the affair with GG ashwood to spite dying Joe Chip cuz she was angry he loved Wendy? That's how I interpreted it

Next book by Phillip K Dick to read?
Is Asimov similar?

[Anonymous No.20798021]

>>20797983
time out of joint
the three stigmata of palmer eldritch
a maze of death
martian time-slip
lies, inc.
clans of the alphane moon
off the top of my head, and no, asimov is not similar to PKD in any way
PKD shits all over any other acclaimed sci-fi writer

[Anonymous No.20798035]

Are all these super specific forums like the 17thshard worth using? Is a diverse set of things discussed there or just autistic focus on the authors work in relation to the forum?
Reddit and 4channel are unusable and just get worse and more toxic even if it's in different ways.

[Anonymous No.20798042]

>>20797983
A book of his short stories is essential, some of his best work was in short stories. Selected Stories of Philip K. Dick has most of the greats. In terms of novels these are all killer in no order:

>Martian Time-Slip
>Clans of the Alphane Moon
>The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch
>A Maze of Death
>Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said

Asimov isn't similar at all. Dick really didn't have many peers within sci-fi in terms of his style. Borges and even Pynchon would be better places to go.

[Anonymous No.20798044]

>>20798035
17thshart will NEVER rule supreme, it's a forum dedicated to the most miserable of authors.

[Anonymous No.20798047]

>>20798044
I mean whatever it was the only forum name I knew of, I was just talking about these forums in general

[Anonymous No.20798051]

>>20798047
Why are you replying to the shitposter? He won’t give you answer.

[Anonymous No.20798054]

This isn't very good honestly.
But it is super cozy. Is the second book like that too?

[Anonymous No.20798058]

>>20798047
If that's the case, then dedicated forums can be good and it hast the potential to rule supreme, even personal blogs can reach sublime levels of supremacy, but you have to look for them and dive in a sea of trash to gain the sublime majesty that is supreme.

[Anonymous No.20798065]

>>20798058
I just wish the internet hadn't lost its soul to this extreme.

[Anonymous No.20798076]

>>20798035
17thshard specifically is a Sanderson fanboy forum and critique/argument is usually quashed instantly. As with most forums in the current era.

[Anonymous No.20798077]

>>20798065
There is many forums/blogs/podcasts/videos on Fantasy or whatever hobby you are into, it is your duty to look for the most supreme in that field, if you can't find it, it is your duty to cleanse the internet from the goons that plague it, and regain that sublime soul despite the effort of soulless goons.

[Anonymous No.20798080]

>>20797794
>libertarian
>beyond the age of 14
Pic related is more your speed.

[Anonymous No.20798085]

>>20798080
LIBTARD AEW SLOW IN THE HEAD

[Anonymous No.20798127]

>>20798054
>this isn't very good
>but it's super cozy

You just described fantasy lit

[Anonymous No.20798140]

>>20798035
>Reddit and 4channel are unusable and just get worse and more toxic
What in the name of fuck? When was reddit usable? From day one reddit was shit. The format and the users have always been shit. 4chan on the other hand has always been about bants and not very serious discussion, the reason it is shit is only because posters cannot come up with original and funny shitposts most of the time. Another reason is all the newfags who think this is serious discussion platform and who cry for janny everytime someone calls then nigger or a tranny.

[Anonymous No.20798162]

Lol Rothfuss is paying 6k per month to himself from Redditor donations to his charity swindle. Knew there was something likeable about the guy.

[Anonymous No.20798192]

>>20797414
The author's name?

[Anonymous No.20798282]

>>20798080
Does the hungry caterpillar represent the socialist, who believes he can go on consuming without the burden of having to produce?

[Anonymous No.20798309]

>>20798162
Seems pretty based to me. Redditors deserve to be taken advantage of.

[Anonymous No.20798315]

>>20798162
oh ya he used to promote that shit on twitch, or maybe he still does, but it just doesn't get recommended to me any more

[Anonymous No.20798343]

Tolkien versus Borges

[Anonymous No.20798359]

>>20794995
I read most xianxia/xuanhuan. Any good ones I missed. Doesn't have to be translated. WNMTL is pretty good for MTL

[Anonymous No.20798366]

>>20795004
>>20795002
These two posts embody everything wrong with /lit/

[Anonymous No.20798371]

>>20798282
>if you aren't libertarian (retard) you must be socialist
only people who haven't worked a hard job in their life are libertarians. spoiled brats with fat inheritances carrying them through life. either that or they're retards

[Anonymous No.20798446]

>>20798366
i'll have you know, i was in fact just memeing on >>20794992

[Anonymous No.20798606]

>>20798359
Did you read village building order frenzy, and fearsome farmer

[Anonymous No.20798634]

>>20797983
Do android dream of electric sheep is one of my favourite pkd novel.

[Anonymous No.20798680]

>>20798054
Sort of. Do you like sex scenes? Because half the book is sex scenes.

[Anonymous No.20798702]

>>20798359
how do you get around the incomplete chapters on WNMTL?

[Anonymous No.20798703]

>>20798606
no i don't really like those types of stories. I prefer the traditional stories

[Anonymous No.20798710]

>>20798702
If it really bothers you can find the raws and use google translate which has gotten better in the past few years. WNMTL is by far the best MTL site I've come across. Some like Novelhi and comrademao are pretty decent as well

[Anonymous No.20798726]

>>20798710
it’s not usually bothersome, but it becomes a problem when every other chapter is incomplete, or literally every chapter after 90 being incomplete.

[Anonymous No.20798731]

>>20798726
I'd go to a different MTL site then for that specific novel

[Anonymous No.20798760]

>>20797321
I don't remember who breeze was but I always assumed that hoid took his Wit persona from Lightsong.

[Anonymous No.20798794]

>>20798726
Then just drop it at that point
I've done that to a couple

[Anonymous No.20798812]

>>20798343
Eh. I don't like setting them up as adversaries. Neither celebrated a world where you couldn't believe in anything. And I don't believe Tolkien saw himself as building a countermeasure, or even a time capsule against this. He just retreated into it, like his fans. Not that that's a bad idea but it's not a great intellectual project.

[Anonymous No.20798847]

>>20797569
I wish I could go back in time and tell myself not to drop money on or even read Oathbringer. Those were more innocent times.

[Anonymous No.20798872]

>>20798760
Breeze is that fat guy from Kelsier's crew in Mistborn, he could manipulate peoples emotions.

[Anonymous No.20798916]

>>20798847
I knew Sanderson would fuck after the first book and WoR proved me right

[Anonymous No.20798933]

>>20795864
>Tolkien was one of the greats
>but how many women are there in the Hobbit?
My theory is that these self-inserter cuck soiboi authors and incels are two sides of the same coin. Where the incel obsessively hates women, the Rothfuss obsessively loves them. But never having had one, they have to assume (incorrectly) that what a woman wants in a man is a white knight.
The Rothfuss is unable to put aside his obsession and realise that sometimes it’s nice to go off with your bros to slay a dragon without having to deal with women, drama, love triangles, etc.

[Anonymous No.20798994]

>>20795287
What does /sffg/ think about Helen Rosner’s criticism of the Name of the Wind?
>I re-read both of the Kingkiller books this week and I had fully forgotten about the part where Kvothe literally says "not all men" after the two women who had been held as sex slaves for a week tell him they hate men and I SCREAMED
>I know I've tweeted about this before but lord help me
>I mean I'll clearly read the third one the living moment it comes out but oh my GOD
>It will surprise none of you that the replies to this feminist criticism of a high fantasy novel include an exquisite filigree of neckbeard apologia
>Bless the poor boy @-ing me who very sincerelu is like “Um it’s a medieval context, the fictional character can’t be expected to have a modern perspective on things”
>Yes yes this extremely true-to-life medieval world where magic is real and there’s a sex fairy in a different time dimension who you can go fuck if you want and the culture also has an extremely clearly articulated acceptance of matriarchal power and queer identity
>Lord almighty let us not hold the living present-day author of this work accountable for choosing entirely of his own volition to have his main character say this line, which has zero bearing on the plot

[Anonymous No.20799011]

>>20797794
I recommend this; it was explicitly written as libertarian during the Vietnam War era. Also Harrison Bergeron by KV.

[Anonymous No.20799012]

>>20798994
boring i guess

[Anonymous No.20799048]

>>20797794
2112 concept album by rush

[Anonymous No.20799052]

I find the Dance to be a much more interesting setting than ASOIAF proper. Why didn't GRRM set the novels in the Dance era? On the other hand, I'm thankful he did so we actually got an ending.

[Anonymous No.20799094]

Are Herbert's novels other than the Dune series any good?

[Anonymous No.20799169]

Why does /lit/ hate The Expanse?

[Anonymous No.20799173]

Has anyone read Peculiar Soul? I’ve never read a web novel before but it seems cool

[Anonymous No.20799182]

>>20799169
Can't say I hate it, just didn't find it very engaging.

[Anonymous No.20799209]

>>20798162
Looks like the mods on that subreddit delete anything critical of Rothfuss.
https://www.reveddit.com/v/KingkillerChronicle/comments/thcekv/the_doors_of_stone_chapter_news/?ps_after=1647653786%2C1647717675
https://www.reveddit.com/v/KingkillerChronicle/?showFilters=true&localSort=score

[Anonymous No.20799216]

>>20799173
I'm almost caught up, it's a solid 9/10 for a webnovel but probably a 6-7/10 if you compare it to some of the better self-pub stuff. The powers are pretty interesting and the author does put a lot of work into the worldbuilding.

[Anonymous No.20799249]

>>20799169
Why does my dad? He loves scifi and even watched CW shit like the 300 but hated the Expanse. I got the sense he fought it just too morose/scummy/ignoble/etc.

[Anonymous No.20799254]

Read a thread on /tv/ talking about Robert Howard and Conan, wanna kill myself from the stupidity.

[Anonymous No.20799260]

>>20799249
You mean The 100? I enjoyed that actually and thought it was better than The Expanse.

[Anonymous No.20799267]

>>20799260
Yeah The 100.

[Anonymous No.20799280]

>>20799249
Could be that it's just not futurist enough. It's basically just modern day conflicts but in space. Add in some weird psychic shit for the climax, but that's about it. Very "End of History" sort of expectation that society won't really evolve much from here

[Anonymous No.20799287]

>>20799254
/tg/ is surprisingly well read. I go there sometimes when I'm sick of the shitposting and, even though I think this word is overused, pretentiousness of /lit/
The /hsg/ thread has a lot of good stuff to say about horror fiction, for example.

[Anonymous No.20799294]

>>20799169
I think indifference is the operative word too. It's Alastair Reynolds for normalfags who haven't given serious thought to technology or the future. I'd go so far as to say it's a good deal better than Reynolds in terms of plot and characters, but not enough to make it interesting.

[Anonymous No.20799330]

>>20799216
Thanks I’m gonna try it out, the Victorian type setting seems interesting to me after reading some of the reviews

[Anonymous No.20799362]

>>20797794
Jack Vance seems to have leaned that way, though I have no evidence of this, but I get that vibe in a few of his books.

[Anonymous No.20799394]

>>20798343
>all those pedantic italics
Bakkek, I presume?

[Anonymous No.20799427]

>>20797414
>reverend inzanity, a novel by r scott bakker
i’d pay good money for this

[Anonymous No.20799445]

>people talk
>library burns down
>people talk
Woah..... nice book, Gormenfags.

[Anonymous No.20799469]

Any audiobook fags have an opinion on the narration for Revelation Space and its sequels?

[Anonymous No.20799477]

>>20799469
my opinion is that i dont know what youre talking about but the vast majority of narrators, even on big projects, are distinctly untalented and you just live with it

[Anonymous No.20799510]

>>20799169
I enjoyed it. I stopped at book 4 for no reason in particular I just didn’t continue.
>>20799469
John Lee is good. He does Peter F Hamilton’s stuff too.

[Anonymous No.20799527]

>>20799394
Yes.

[Anonymous No.20799555]

more like pic related?
i loved it.
no convoluted plots, no needless drama or forced misery just a great story with a happy ending.

[Anonymous No.20799588]

>>20799330
It's not Victorian, it's a sort of Alt-Earth with WWI tech setting

[Anonymous No.20799591]

>>20794995
Started Way of Kings, very interesting setting and scenario so far. Not the biggest fan of sprens, I don’t know exactly why but something about them manifesting for every kind of scenario seems tedious and annoying.

[Anonymous No.20799594]

>>20799249
>ignoble
wtf

[Anonymous No.20799598]

what are the best rebellion theme books?

[Anonymous No.20799623]

>>20798054
The second book is the first book but with more sex and martial arts, both of which Kvothe becomes a prodigy of.

[Anonymous No.20799639]

>>20799555
Judging by the blurb, it's reminiscent of a lot of old pulps.

[Anonymous No.20799660]

>>20799639
its very pulpy. its mainly why i liked it. all the characters were likable and the story was a fun short ride that did not overstay its welcome.

[Anonymous No.20799666]

>>20799591
I love the world building in stormlight, the interludes take place all over Roshar and it really shows the scale of the world. Good bits of foreshadowing too if you know what to look for.

[Anonymous No.20799705]

>>20799445
Glad you enjoyed it anon :3

[Anonymous No.20799716]

>>20799362
Making fun of debt slavery and central banks isn't really a libertarian principle.

[Anonymous No.20799752]

how did rothkek even become a hit in the first place? his books are steaming dogshit, almost as bad as his deep-leddit-fried personality

[Anonymous No.20799760]

>>20799752
Name of the Wind was a hit. Why was it a hit, this I cannot say. It was like Harry Potter for older, more pretentious people, I guess.

[Anonymous No.20799772]

Just finished The Stars My Destination and had some questions as to key parts
When Gully decides he doesn't want to kill Olivia anymore, I didn't quite understand why he decided to stop his revenge. Was it because he decided to forsake his more animal nature for a more 'mature nature where he is now mature enough to desire punishment?
Along with this, at the very end when Joseph says that Gully has found punishment within himself, I don't quite understand. Is Gully's punishment the fact that instead of seeking death (reference to original refrain he says at the beginning of the book) he now can't let himself die, because he needs to teach humanity the secrets to the stars? Is this some sort of Prometheus allegory, except instead of being punished by the gods for bequeathing knowledge he is the source of his own punishment?

[Anonymous No.20799799]

>>20799772
I don't know I just like it when he teleports all over and spooks himself in the past

[Anonymous No.20799817]

>>20797430
Everything you do either ends up being pointless or ending at yet another cliffhanger that explains nothing and just raises more questions in the story mode. The game mechanics are nice, but after you explore the maps there's really not much to do.

[Anonymous No.20799821]

How’s your novel coming along, Anon? You ARE writing a scifi or fantasy novel, aren’t you, Anon?

[Anonymous No.20799827]

>>20799821
yes.
halfway through the first book about 300k words so far.

[Anonymous No.20799834]

>>20799821
Well I'm writing a short fiction about an abbey that's invaded by snails that mimic any sounds they hear, it's probably going to be around 5000 words.

[Anonymous No.20799873]

Books like Lyonesse? Well-written/purple fantasy steeped in pseudo-historical myth? I've read Anderson's stuff already.

[Anonymous No.20799880]

>>20799821
My past four NaNos:
Iron Ages Celtic Bloodborne
Eastern Roman Star Wars
Post-Post-Apocalyptic Renaissance Naruto
Arthurian Xinxia

[Anonymous No.20799901]

Why does it matter so much and is a big deal for people today that characters in a fantasy book aren't white? It's such a strange superficial thing to me to obsess over. I've been watching reviews on Earthsea and I'm just kind of turned away from it, not because the characters are black but because I'm starting to feel like people recommended this on the only basis that the characters in it were black. I just started a review that starts like this "It's exactly like harry potter but the characters are black and was written earlier". Does this sell anyone on a book? Who cares?
I'm sorry but an African fantasy could be cool, but what's special about a western fantasy with black people?

[Anonymous No.20799906]

>>20799901
Where have you been for the past 10 years as intersexual feminism encroached on every aspect of society?

[Anonymous No.20799910]

>>20799880
I've just thrown up in my mouth. Thanks, anon.

[Anonymous No.20799923]

More like Gay Gavriel Gay, lmao

[Anonymous No.20799926]

Anyone here who has read Banquet of the Ancient Taxonomied Penises?

[Anonymous No.20799932]

>>20799821
Bordering on pic related.
How do I not do this, what software do you guys use?

[Anonymous No.20799937]

>>20799923
Why do you say that?

[Anonymous No.20799949]

>>20799932
Microsoft Word from 2002

[Anonymous No.20799960]

Just finished this, was a solid 7 or 8/10. Would recomend if you want a late medieval low-fantasy series with a Jean D'Arc schizo thrown into the mix.

[Anonymous No.20799966]

>>20799960
does she fucked in it

[Anonymous No.20800025]

>>20799821
local autist becomes the nascent god of an yet unformed realm, decides to make it a lit RPG world

[Anonymous No.20800035]

>>20800025
Isekai fag

[Anonymous No.20800046]

>>20800025
Hey big bro, I found this cool vr portal thing to the game your playing all the time. Why didn't you let me play. Anyhow I snuck in last night and turned half the planet into cat people, I hope you like it.

[Anonymous No.20800063]

anyone know of a sci-fi novel about space colonization where the method is sending eggs and sperm,
using artificial wombs at arrival and having robots bring up the children?

bonus question, when done with game of throne books, any other of santa's books worth reading?

[Anonymous No.20800065]

https://youtu.be/fEBSx075AKs

[Anonymous No.20800074]

>>20798994
I assume she's joking?
Maybe she was raped and actually believes all men are rapists.
Overall, I feel sorry for her.

[Anonymous No.20800121]

How did you imagine the Mountain and Seas Realm in ISSTH?

[Anonymous No.20800130]

>>20800121
Also can't forget that there's broken remnants of ruins and other structures between the mountains

[Anonymous No.20800147]

>>20799821
absolutely not.

[Anonymous No.20800162]

It's kind of weird seeing people on goodreads lose themselves over genre fiction books aimed at men because it doesn't have an ideal modern american representation.
It's like me finding one of those romance books that has a guy with abs on the cover and losing myself over the plot or how the guy is portrayed.

[Anonymous No.20800232]

>>20800162
that's why Canada > America

[Anonymous No.20800246]

>>20800063
Yes, I have read a few of them, and a few that are close. But I read way too many books to bother remembering all of them and this particular plot device seems ok from the outset but is hard to develop into a very memorable longer form story.

Hot Sleep by Card has a single pilot survive and start a colony with adults who's minds have been reset to that of infants.

Raised by Wolves is a tv show that's spot on for what you request. I can think of a at least three other movies as well.

If you broaden it out to the whole lord of the flies type scenario where young children get stranded and form a society you will find many more examples, though usually from the prospective of an outsider that finds them.

One that I recall liking had a boy on an space station raised by the mostly insane ghost like recordings of the consciousnesses of dead people that he would interact with via a telephone system.

[Anonymous No.20800259]

>>20800162

[Anonymous No.20800268]

>>20800259
Based on that review I will now read this book.

[Anonymous No.20800271]

>>20800259
Please send me her details so I know not to date her.

[Anonymous No.20800317]

>>20797414
The author's name?

[Anonymous No.20800337]

>>20799591
Yeah, it’s great. I think it gets even better in Words of Radiance. I also find the spren to be pretty silly but you get used to them. I’m currently reading Oathbringer and I’m worried that it’ll take a dip and turn bad according to many opinions. But considering how much I liked the first two books even though most people here say to not even bother with Sanderson I think I’ll enjoy it until the end.

[Anonymous No.20800349]

TWI V6 interlude-talia
oh thank god the 'goblin slayer' was just rabbiteater. suddenly the chapter became so much better. having a real goblin slayer would feel so contrived so i'm glad there was a twist after all.

[Anonymous No.20800384]

>>20800063
That's the plot of raised by wolves, exactly
But idk if it was based on a book or not.... I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.20800394]

>>20799216
Is it pozzed in any way?

[Anonymous No.20800396]

>>20800337
Words of Radiance is Sandersoy's best work hands down and a personal 10/10
Oathbringer is the great filter that gets most people, and it sure got me

[Anonymous No.20800442]

how can all the other books even compete?

[Anonymous No.20800443]

>>20800349
>TWI V6 interlude-talia
Would it really be contrived? There are classes for people that hate their species of choice, [Goblinslayers] shouldn't be that rare.

As you are nearing to it, I have to warn you about Interlude - Foliana. There is a secret about this chapter that makes a lot of people annoyed. It's not a spoiler, just something you might wish to know about the chapter itself:
It has two links to hidden chapters. "Then Foliana ate the biscuit." and "Then she lifted it to her mouth and ate it." Watch out for those two.

[Anonymous No.20800448]

>>20800394
The story revolves around an alt-WW1 setting with magic powers, there's no real connection to modern politics. Unless you consider women in the workforce and in combat roles during all-out war being pozzed I guess. The story explores the themes of nationalism, fanaticism, and morality in a world where might usually makes right, devastatingly so. There's no forced inclusivity or token characters so idk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As far as web novels go I'd put it in the same tier as MoL or Worm, but not quite as good as something like APGTE.

[Anonymous No.20800450]

What is Bakker? I'm looking for the book but I can't find anything.

[Anonymous No.20800456]

>>20800442
My least favorite book. The only one where I preferred the film.

[Anonymous No.20800461]

>>20800450
I will guide you to the path of glorious supremacy, if you are truly are fit to rule, you will rule, if you are unfit, then you will drool, start with the Prince of Nothing series, start with the sublime book known as The Darkness That Comes Before.

[Anonymous No.20800479]

>>20800443
i meant contrived in a narrative sense. if he was a real GS then he would likely end up in an antagonistic role agains rags. also he is very, VERY similar to the GS manga. all this would make him read like a cheap and uninspired villain to me. so i'm glad it's rabbiteater.

>links
yikes. i've actually been meaning to ask about hidden stuff since i'm reading TWI using .epubs. also i noticed that V7 had like 700mb worth of images. i wonder if it's all fanart....

[Anonymous No.20800496]

>>20800461
>spoonfeeding this obvious abject retard

[Anonymous No.20800497]

>>20797251
His terribly uninspired prose is the worst offender imo. I like his fight scenes, as an anime enjoyer.

[Anonymous No.20800519]

>>20799821
Thinking about starting to think about starting.

[Anonymous No.20800527]

>>20800496
He may be an abject twink, but he deserves a chance to proof himself a man.

[Anonymous No.20800564]

>>20799821
For at least seven or eight years now I’ve had this idea for a novel in my head. Perhaps a year ago I started to flesh it out more and more but I have yet to write a single page. I just don’t have the necessary vocabulary. I can’t write two sentences without thinking how silly this is and that I am simply wasting my time. Maybe I’ll try to write some short stories to practice.

[Anonymous No.20800573]

Was there ever a woman with nipples so large or so responsive? He could hardly look at them without wanting to grab them, to suckle them until they were hard and wet and shiny

[Anonymous No.20800585]

>>20800573
What if GRRM's notes for the rest of the series are revealed after his death and it consists entirely of badly written sex scenes

[Anonymous No.20800591]

>>20800585
as long as we get to read them I'm okay with it

[Anonymous No.20800623]

>>20800479
>yikes. i've actually been meaning to ask about hidden stuff since i'm reading TWI using .epubs. also i noticed that V7 had like 700mb worth of images. i wonder if it's all fanart....
If you are webscraping TWI, then it's likely that it scrapped the fanart along with it, Pirate got into a habit of including fanarts at the end of every chapter. There might have been some story art included in the chapters though, can't recall if it was a thing or not. I don't know how well the Epub format works with colored text Pirate uses in the chapters, you might not notice things that would normally be drawing attention naturally.

There are very, very few hidden lines (on the author's page they are the color of the background, so you have to mark them with mouse to see them, but you can deduce their placement by weird lines structure). You've already read Interlude – The Titan’s Question, and that one had many lines with hidden text, so if you didn't notice any problems then the web scrapper probably just converts that to the default text color.

[Anonymous No.20800689]

is it kino?

[Anonymous No.20800690]

>>20800689
It's pretty good. I was pleasantly surprised.

[Anonymous No.20800691]

>>20794995

[Anonymous No.20800735]

>>20800689
It's decent but is probably the slowest paced epic fantasy ever

[Anonymous No.20800739]

>>20800691
More successful than you.

[Anonymous No.20800740]

>>20800735
Hell no. Wheel of Time is absolutely glacial and everything of note could have been squeezed to the same number of pages of Memory, Sorrow and Thorn took.

[Anonymous No.20800744]

>>20800735
The trilogy is about 2000 pages which isn't really that bad for epic fantasy

[Anonymous No.20800752]

>>20800739
Still not buying your shit, Samatar.

[Anonymous No.20800847]

>>20800689
Slow but captivating. ASOIAF's tropes with Robin Hobbs writing is a good way to describe it.

[Anonymous No.20800867]

Just wrapping up Heroes Die today and I loved it.
Stover seems to have a real gift for writing action sequence, and what strikes me the most is the mix of genres and somewhat convoluted plot by all rights shouldn't work but somehow it seems he pulled it off.

What I'm wondering now however is whether the Acts of Caine series is worth continuing from here? The reviews seem mixed and book 2 is quite long especially since I'd listen to audio if I continue. The Narrator Stefan Rudnicki is one of the best, I've liked that guy since I first listened to the Prince Roger AKA Empire of Man series, another one I'd recommend. Not amazing but just a good solid and fun scifi collab which I believe is the best thing either Ringo or Weber have ever written.

[Anonymous No.20800876]

>>20800847
>ASOIAF's tropes with Robin Hobbs writing is a good way to describe it.
Seconding this. Tad Williams influenced a lot of people.

[Anonymous No.20800883]

>>20800867
I've literally only seen this in that god-awful isekai chart what's it about?

[Anonymous No.20800912]

>>20800883

Its honestly hard to even describe and while I don't want to blow off your question I think its one of those books where its best to just read the synopsis and go in blind and trust the author. The idea of putting it up in an isekai chart next to the trash is laughable however (not that I don't shamelessly enjoy a lot of trash anyway). But its kind of like listing Tad Williams' Otherworld as a LitRPG, the author's came before these genres and the inherent tropes within were solidified.

Beyond that all I can say is that Heroes Die is a singularly unique book in the genre, straddling both scifi and fantasy that gets off to a somewhat slow start, goes into some bizarre but interesting areas, keeps one guessing and has an awful lot going on that just shouldn't work but somehow does. Also the action sequences are delicious. Like reading a good swift kill from Howard or Abercrombie you can feel the crunch and I honestly cringed a bit in a good way at a couple parts. But its a good deal more than just an action book, so if you want something interesting you'll get that too I think depending on your tastes.

[Anonymous No.20800928]

>>20800867
>>20800912
I literally just today listened to some podcast where Scott Lynch was talking about how good this book is

[Anonymous No.20800995]

>>20800912
Is it as edgy as the title makes it sound?

[Anonymous No.20801008]

>>20800928
just looked him up on twitter and hes got gender pronouns in his bio and is complaining about fascism.

[Anonymous No.20801016]

>>20801008
Well he is legitimately mentally ill and on medication.

[Anonymous No.20801028]

>>20801016
he should get off the SSRI's and lift. Go on weekend quests with the bros

[Anonymous No.20801042]

>>20801008
>have to first verify if the author agrees with my politics first before I read them
Why can't you just let their work be its own thing and ignore the author? People change over time as well, so it may no longer be representative either.

[Anonymous No.20801062]

>>20801042
>Why can't you just let their work be its own thing and ignore the author?
We would if Lynch bothered to publish something

[Anonymous No.20801064]

>>20801008
Still more efficient than gommunism in soviet union.

[Anonymous No.20801073]

>>20801008
guy just described communist russia lel

[Anonymous No.20801079]

>>20801042
his work is shit too. one decent book and two shit ones and hasn't released a fourth in like a decade because muh depression or some such shit

[Anonymous No.20801087]

All those memes will be lost... in time... like bakkerspam in threads... time to archive

[Anonymous No.20801114]

>be anonymous
>care about identity more than anything else
Compensation?

[Anonymous No.20801129]

>>20801114
My cock is 7 inches exactly (but quite thin) and I think I overcompensate for my cuckold fetish of big black cocks by reading Lovecraft and imagining big black cocks (a form of Nyarlathotep) then posting here while contributing nothing.

[Anonymous No.20801131]

>>20801087
What a coincidence, just watched this scenes on shitube recently.

[Anonymous No.20801136]

>>20800847
>>20800876
Actually has me very interested. I love the way Hobb writes.

[Anonymous No.20801186]

>>20800867

Not really. At least I don't think so. The book was written in 98 and feels like it was written earlier so before a lot of the edgefag thing started to come in. While the book contains a good deal of graphic violence I think what seperates it from the edgy stuff is that there's more thought and sophistication put into the themes than you see in most books written post-2000. Like I said though I've only read book 1 and can't speak for the rest of the series, still hoping someone will chime in on that.

To illustrate a big part of what the author was going for with this here are his own words:

"It's a piece of violent entertainment that's a meditation on violent entertainment- as a concept in itself, as a cultural obsession. It's a love story: romantic love, paternal love, repressed homoerotic love, love of money, of power, of country, love betrayed and employed as both carrot and stick. It's about all different kinds of heroes and all the different ways they die."

[Anonymous No.20801193]

>>20801129
begone /gif/ tourist

[Anonymous No.20801210]

>>20801193
Not to blog, but really I will, I have been on /lit/ since 2016 and in /sffg/ since around 2021 when I left a graduate program in "literature" and decided to read what I liked as a kid again. I don't know if that makes me a tourist, but there's not much you can do about it either way.

[Anonymous No.20801227]

>>20801210
What can anyone do about anything?
#deepthoughts #notnihilismbtw #doomerboomer

[Anonymous No.20801234]

>>20800689
What the fuck did he do with the cat?

[Anonymous No.20801238]

>>20801234
There was a cat that hunted for the blind guy

[Anonymous No.20801239]

>>20801227
Nihilism is a specific philosophical approach where you think ethical or moral statements, as well as statements about life in general, have no meaning.

[Anonymous No.20801292]

>>20801239
>providing a prescriptivist definition while on a site at the forefront of descriptivism

[Anonymous No.20801308]

>>20801292
I don't care for Wittgenstein. I'm not sure what he would think of this site.

[Anonymous No.20801353]

>>20799873
I don't think there are any. Lyonesse is it.

[Anonymous No.20801390]

>>20801008
It's weird how he keeps misspelling communism in that pic.

[Anonymous No.20801393]

>>20801390
Umm, REAL communism has never been tried, sweetheart.

[Anonymous No.20801407]

>>20801353
>>20799873
try Guy Gavriel Kay

[Anonymous No.20801436]

>>20801210
>I have been on /lit/ since 2016 and in /sffg/ since around 2021
>I don't know if that makes me a tourist
i miss ye olde golden days when the mods weren't also flaming newfags and banned this kind of riff raff on site
please lurk for at least two more years before posting
polite sage not that 95% of this thread knows what that is

[Anonymous No.20801448]

>>20801436
Spoilers won't save you, announcing your sage is against the rules!

[Anonymous No.20801658]

>>20799827
>600k word book
you already fucked up

[Anonymous No.20801689]

>>20799821
I had an idea for two stories, one sci-fi and one fantasy. I was going to try write both of them, until I realised that the MC of both stories were basically the same person. I then outlined another story I was thinking about and the more I fleshed it out, the more I realised that the MC was turning into the character as the other two...

So now I'm just focusing on the first sci-fi story, even though I'm pretty sure I'm not nearly smart enough to write it.

[Anonymous No.20801803]

>>20799827
>>20799880
>>20799932
>>20800025
>>20801689
Would be really curious to read short passages of your work. (prose only, lore and ideaguying don’t count obviously)

[Anonymous No.20801822]

>>20801407
I haven't read every GGK novel but they aren't quite the same. Lyonesse is more fantastical, like a fairy tale.

[Anonymous No.20801904]

>>20800689
Older fantasy epics are intentionally slow paced which seems to put off modern readers. Keep that in mind.

[Anonymous No.20802060]

>>20799821
All the good plots have already been done. I had this idea for a medieval war between a sister and brother, and it turns out an entire TV show on that premise is being created.

[Anonymous No.20802115]

I wasn't supposed to be back at reading harem/erotica for a month, but somehow I got around reading the sequel to Saving Supervillains. My impressions? Frustration. This not a bad book. It's one of the author's best, actually. But...

The first book worked so well because there were only three women. Harem series have this common flaw where the author tries to bring in as many varied women as possible, but it nearly always ends up cheapening the relationships. In this one, the author seemed hellbent on forcing as many women into the harem as possible, taking away most of the work established in the first book. Less is more, a common saying but especially true in regards to the harem genre. It really, really hurts, because the author is getting better by the book. There are still general big issues such as lack of proper pacing, foreshadowings, clunky structure, lack of narrative consequences...but I can tell the overall quality is going up.

There is no editor listed, which is not surprising as it would cut self-published margins even harsher than they already are, but this book could have benefited from one. Just as the first book, I unashamedly read it for its erotic contents, but just as the first book it surprised me with how interesting the main character and the plot were. It's rare that an author is able to provide tension to a story where the protagonist is pretty much invincible, yet this series handles it pretty well, more than I've seen in good authors with long experience in writing. There's some raw talent in Bruce Sentar, albeit in dire need of polish.

Returning to the topic of erotic content, I found it wanting. The scenes had good set ups and hit the emotional tons properly, yet their titilating aspects were snuffed out by how brief each sexual interaction was. I remember reading sex scenes going up for pages, so to see such good set ups wasted on writing, what, 1 page of overall scene? It was so wasteful. So disappointing. One scene managed to go for longer, yet even that barely can be called a proper sex scene.

There are many ways sex is handled in harem novels, and I hate the one where even though the book is stuffed with sexual tension every sexual interaction happens off-screen (it's probably due to some publishing rules, the popular author William. D. Arrand uses another name Randi Darren to publish his harem books with explicit sex scenes, while as William they happen off-screen). Bruce Sentar isn't one of those people, which make his books appeal to me. Alas, he isn't quite willing to lean into it more. I don't mind too much, as it book stand on its own as a super-hero story, but as this was the main appeal I'd expect it to get better.

Nonetheless, Saving Supervillains 2 is an interesting book, it's not particularly original, but the writing and execution of the idea carry this otherwise mediocre book above the sea of trash.

6/10

PS: The cover is a bit ugly, to be honest.

[Anonymous No.20802117]

Is the Inverse Fire actually entropy and S=k ln W, thermodynamics? If the Inverse Fire is the product of reason, and the Water is passion, what would happen if they were united...

Is Qirri and the stained finger actually some commentary about democracy (inked finger, voting in the Middle East?) The language used in the novel of Apportioning seems to remind me of Muhasasa (sectarian apportionment, a reviled form of proportional representation / democratic allocation that led to more corruption and sectarian conflict)

There are some interesting parallels between Angeshrael and his wife named Esmenet (the prophet who bows his face into the fire) and Kellhus and his wife Esmenet (Kellhus contemplates the Inverse Fire)

Is Kellhus actually some sort of AI or google search algorithm. It is reflected in the glossary (strange unusual scifi terms like System Initiation. Also their high priest is called Pragma - if you do programming, you know this is a common compiler directive)

I also enjoyed the etymology of some names. Scylvendi, the barbarians, invokes the Sceafa / Scyldings, the sheaf folk of Beowulf

[Anonymous No.20802189]

>>20800396
See, I like Oathbringer and Sanderson in general but the section of the story in Kholinar dragged so fucking badly. Plus Shallan's character arc felt like she was regressing and retreading the development she went through in the last book. I found myself rolling my eyes every time she kept seeing her powers as different than her and freaking out because she doesn't know what to do without her pretending to be Veil or some shit.

[Anonymous No.20802258]

any sff books with femdom?

[Anonymous No.20802262]

>>20797794
Jerry Pournelle was a libertarian and wrote some libertarian stuff, although Mote in God's Eye is more monarchist. The Falkenberg series had a lot of killing socialists but they were pretty dull compared to the likes of Mote.

[Anonymous No.20802266]

>>20802258
Wheel of Time, supposedly, but I've never read it

[Anonymous No.20802269]

>>20802117
stop procrastinating by onanizing yourself on a baluchistani wool carding board and give us the no-god already richard

[Anonymous No.20802286]

>>20802266
Jordan was pretty based, he was into dominant cougars. Sanderlad can't compete

[Anonymous No.20802294]

>>20802258
>any sff books with femdom?
Hmm, some parts of Sword of Truth, but I am hestitant to truly recommend the series because it's batshit insane, and the quality isn't that high anyway.

[Anonymous No.20802324]

>>20802258
Feetfags such as yourself, Daniel Schneider and the author of Dungeon Crawler Carl really need to get the rope.

[Anonymous No.20802327]

>>20802117
I enjoyed the ending, and I personally believe Bakker surpasses Tolkien in philology and the etymology of his names; Tolkien is heavily derivative of Beowulf and also CS Lewis Inklings antics etc whereas Bakker is drawing upon Sumerian, Greek, Aramaic, (maybe also mesoamerican legends and influence for Nonmen? Heron spear, Aztec Aztlan White heron etc.) some vaguely Asian Laozi / Zhuangzi philosophy, huge amounts of Islam / Dune, and even Axum / Zeum etc vodoun and African myth in his comprehensive worldbuilding and linguistic constructions.

If I had to criticise one thing, I am a bit confused by the eschatological emphasis on damnation which seems very Judaeo Christian driven. If the entire 7 novel sequence is about deceit, nihilism apocalypse brought by a literal Prince Of Nothing who may be a soulless AI or capitalism or democracy lol, why is there damnation? (Maybe I missed it, but it is never really explained?) The characters are literally committing world ending atrocity rape murder disease radiation nuclear cannibalism, to avoid damnation... but why does damnation exist lol. It seems strangely juxtaposed given the emphasis on nihilist philosophy. I guess this is what you get if you intermingle 20th century philosophy in a Sumerian-ish swords and sorcery setting...

Incidentally, if you consider other literature such as Shakespeare Titus Andronicus or even Flaubert Salammbo Carthage battle scenes etc, all the cannibalism / atrocity rape murder war violence is fairly historically situated. Bakker clearly seems to be hinting at slme political commentary (the Ajencis glossary entry, hints at politics as merchant capitalism, also a Long March and a character named the Steersman... it is not subtle lol)

[Anonymous No.20802338]

>>20797794
Aristillus series is pure libertarian hard sci-fi.

[Anonymous No.20802348]

>>20800739
So was Hitler.

[Anonymous No.20802357]

>>20802269
I also do not think there should be a sequel to Unholy Consult. The ending is powerful, memorable and shows tragic descent. It is like asking for a happy sequel to Macbeth lol.

I have noticed modern audiences can barely accommodate or contemplate tragedy. Maybe it is Hollywood, maybe tragedy is just not commercially viable. This is probably why tragedy ends up being unthinkingly inflicted upon the real world, instead of being enacted in fiction.

The impact of the ending of the Unholy Consult resides in the question it poses. You should have expected the ending (it is literally given away by the title of the series, Prince Of Nothing... guess what... guess how it is going to end...?!) I enjoyed the follow-on short stories like the pit fighter / Conan homage Knife Of Many Hands, the comedy ghost story the Carathayan. I would actually like to see more short stories instead of a sequel, a compilation that backfills and infills the vast world and cultures.

[Anonymous No.20802368]

anyone else reading The Mech Touch here?

[Anonymous No.20802381]

>>20802269
Maybe I am biased, but Tad Williams Memory Sorrow and Thorn was my anchor fantasy sequence when growing up. It was complete and fulfilling and had a blissful Arthurian folklore dreamy feel.

I tried a bit of the more recent Osten Ard follow-on and it felt sullied by young adult / Hunger games type influences, just uncompelling. Again like the hapoy sequel to Macbeth, it is like writing a hapoy sequel to the rnd of King Arthur's myth lol.

So I would rather see The Unholy Consult left as a tragic apocalyptic moral question, than for it to be resolved.

[Anonymous No.20802394]

>>20802269
Maybe I am biased, but Tad Williams Memory Sorrow and Thorn was my anchor fantasy sequence when growing up. It was complete and fulfilling and had a blissful Arthurian folklore dreamy feel.

I tried a bit of the more recent Osten Ard follow-on and it felt sullied by young adult / Hunger games type influences, just uncompelling. Again like the happy sequel to Macbeth, it is like writing a happy sequel to the end of King Arthur's myth lol.

So I would rather see The Unholy Consult left as a tragic apocalyptic moral question, than for it to be resolved.

[Anonymous No.20802402]

>>20802357
The issue is that throughout The Aspect Emperor there are these excerpts from future books which indicate that the Consult was ultimately defeated and the second apocalypse stopped (otherwise they wouldn’t have been able to write the books in the first place). Readers want to know how that happened. There are also many big questions left unanswered. The problem here is that it is not a tragedy but rather an open ending. You had to go through a total of seven books, four of them only about the march against Golgotterath only to find yourself with a slap in the face on the last few pages. That is extremely frustrating.

[Anonymous No.20802422]

>>20802258
Kill yourself coomer.

[Anonymous No.20802435]

Oh boy, can’t wait for this thread to be dead for hours until a new thread is made.

[Anonymous No.20802438]

>>20802435
Yes, anon. Our shitposters are on 24/7 to shit up /sffg/. It’s been known for months now.

[Anonymous No.20802485]

>>20802402
I think maybe the core fantasy audience has different expectations. It is not like the Batman origin story lol. If you read Borges short stories, which I regard as fantasy, they are nearly all unresolved, you do not even get a glossary of explanations at the end etc. If you read ancient tragedies they often end like the Unholy Consult does - even Beowulf ends on a sense of death and lamentation / apocalyptic foreboding, the wailing Geatish woman by the pyre etc. The idea is to pose questions, true art maximises the interpretive space. When I read the glossary at the end of the Unholy Consult I was reminded of JG Ballard and Jorge Luis Borges (if I remember correctly, there is a Ballard speculative fiction short story which tells a sort of puzzle cut up history from a glossary like index; out of chronological order storytelling with huge amounts of aphorisms/metatext allusions is sort of also a Borges technique.) So I wonder if this is what Bakker was trying to do.

Think of it like the item descriptions in Bloodborne or Dark Souls and how they make you search for explanations and interpretations of lore online.

The Unholy Consult glossary makes it feel like you are decoding an incomplete true history, like you have excavated some shattered incomplete Sumerian or Babylonian historial tablet and are trying to understand what happened in the history of this world. If Bakker explained and resolved everything, it would ruin this pseudoarchaeological relic literary illusion.

[Anonymous No.20802535]

>>20802485
Interestingly, I just found the JG Ballard cut up puzzle story I remembered.

It is called Answers To A Questionnaire, and it is basically presented as an enumerated series of random semi-coherent responses (the questions are not shown). Some of the responses include:
92) At the climax of Thus Spake Zarathustra
98) That I had killed the Son Of God

Given that in the Prince Of Nothing series Bakker adapts Zoroastrian aphorisms (there are quotes from a character named Zarathinius) Manichaeism philosophy etc and the No-God ending, I wonder if he read this Ballard short story and was influenced by its technique.

[Anonymous No.20802592]

If this ever got an anime adaptation everyone would waifu Guiwenneth very hard

[Anonymous No.20802595]

Does David Gemmell just retell exactly the same story over and over again 20 times in 20 novels. I feel a bit more manly afterwards though

[Anonymous No.20802637]

>>20802592
Is it worth reading mythic fiction, or is it better to just read the actual myths themselves like the Mabinogion or Gaelic or Celtic myths like the Ulster cycle. There is actually some incel myth in the Mabinogion about a lonely man who gets two wizards to make him a wife of flowers. She spurns him and gets turned into an owl or something. It is pretty anime

[Anonymous No.20802649]

>>20802637
If you have read Beowulf or the Epic of Gilgamesh or a lot of greek literature etc you can see through Tolkien and Bakker. lol that city literally named... Nilnamesh. It operates at the level of: let me tell you my story of King Urther who pulls a mace from a rock, no wait tree. Does this ruin all fantasy fiction

[Anonymous No.20802707]

>Tldr: origin of Sauron name from Saureil, Mandaeism religion?

So I was researching some ancient forgotten religions for a ttrpg setting of mine, hunting for obscure myths and names.

There used to be this weird early gnostic religion called Mandaeism (important: not Manichaeism, this is different). In Mandaeism, they had this idea that earth was just one of many many worlds situated ike watchtowers between heaven and hell, guarded by various angelic or demonic beings.

But the interesting thing I found was this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saureil
In Mandaeism, Saureil, also spelt Sauriel or Saurʿil is the angel of death

I am not a Tolkien expert but I vaguely checked that Mandaeism tracts were first translated in Oxford approximately contemporaneous to Tolkien's time (not by him personally though). Might this Saureil Angel Of Death be where he took the inspiration for Sauron's name? I do not see it mentioned on the various Tolkien wikis etc. but I know that Tolkien placed huge effort into philological derivations (for instance, Ring-giver is a common Scandinavian kenning for King or Lord, the giver of wealth or treasure torcs or rings in Beowulf. I think Saruman's tower Orthanc is also named from a phrase in Beowulf, as is the word Orc from orcneas etc).

It could also be that the Saur- word root is common to a lot of ancient languages in that region, and unrelated to this religion connection

[Anonymous No.20802722]

>>20802707
>So I was researching some ancient forgotten religions for a ttrpg setting of mine,
>>>/tg/ is that way.

[Anonymous No.20802763]

You guys remember the old chart showing the length of different fantasy series? A new one has been made. Aside of TWI, do look at Stormlight Archives, Brandon's book appear to be gaining up. Didn't he say he wants the series to be around 12 books long? He might be Top 2 on this list by the time he's done.

[Anonymous No.20802778]

>>20802763
Stormlight was always set to be 10 books, with a front half and a back half.

[Anonymous No.20802815]

>>20802324
I'm almost positive DCC mocks people who're into feet.

[Anonymous No.20802818]

>>20802763
10 full novels planned for Stormlight (10 is kind of a 'big deal' number it's a whole thing in Stormlight), with some novellas.

[Anonymous No.20802823]

>>20802763
I'm always surprised at just how much Discworld has, but that's just from sheer number of books I suppose.

[Anonymous No.20802849]

>>20802763
i wonder how these compare to translated novels, especially chinese stuff.

[Anonymous No.20802871]

>>20802815
Definitely. Part of his book 5 acknowledgment is to some girl who sent feet pics and he said he forwarded them to the AI.

[Anonymous No.20802954]

>>20802117
>>20802402

Speculative brief list of Prince Of Nothing theories (let me know if there are more...) Perhaps it answers your questions?

1/ The Head On A Stick is the Hope goddess Onkis, who is related to the Nonman House Siol Copper Tree

2/ Seswatha's Heart is a daimotic device, it is his way of becoming immortal

3/ The second decapitant is Kellhus own severed head. This is sort of just stated in the glossary. However this explains convincingly why he teleports away randomly to Momemn to avoid responsibility for the atrocity and comes back again, breaking his own interdiction on communication. A backup at Zeum if he dies?

4/ The Sarcophagus of the No-God requires a twin. There is some connection with the Two-heart barbarian / Conan homage featured in the short story Knife Of Many Hands. It seems to suggest that people who are divided or torn in two parts can be used as tools (This is literally what is stated as the meaning of the title Knife Of Many Hands)

5/ There are a string of demonic sacrifices hidden in the list of unexplained murdered characters in the Glossary, who all seem to die within a specific interval of years. The comedy ghost story The Carathayan perhaps hints that Kellhus has ordered these murders

6/ Kellhus is some sort of proto-AI, as mentioned that the Dunyain head sect is named Pragma (literally a programming compiler directive) and the Tekne and Ark is some sort of symbiant biomorph computer crossing the Void (programming functions beginning void etc). There is also a sense that the world is on some programming loop of repeated cause and effect

7/ The Qirri intoxicant is some sort of allegory for democracy enslaving and speeding towards the Apocalypse (it is made from dead Nonmen - democracy comes from ancient greece dead civilisations etc) The imagery around the stained finger ritual seems very carefully chosen (like the middle east election voting inked finger etc) and there is strange use of language around Portions and Apportioning which sounds like the failed corrupt system of Muhasasa in post Saddam Hussein Iraq (literally: sectarian apportionment). When Moenghus breaks under torture he blurts out something like Show them my Father's Portion (he is referring to Kellhus, not Cnaiur). Similarly Cnaiur last words involve howling: I shall have my Portion etc. Interestingly the glossary says that Apportioning/democracy is slavery, the division of slaves.

8/ Kellhus / Cnaiur are divided souls deceit / war. The Glossary describes Golgotterath the Canted and Upright horns as being a Half-Crown, so the reunion of the two horns Kellhus / Cnaiur at the Twin Horns Ark creates the Four Horned God and unleashes The Prince Of Hate. Also the glossary tells us Earwa has Four Tribes of Man (actually five, the fifth Xiuhianni vaguely Chinese? non democratic did not settle in the lands) Kellhus cuts one horn with the laser gun / Sun spear, perhaps suggesting only a partial success?

[Anonymous No.20802989]

>>20802871
Author sounds based.

[Anonymous No.20803053]

>>20802871
I honestly get the impression the AI JUST likes Carl's feet.

[Anonymous No.20803087]

>>20803053
Same, actually but we also don't see how the AI interacts with others in that manner.

[Anonymous No.20803131]

>>20802778
So many trees wasted on such utter garbage.

[Anonymous No.20803140]

>>20803131
You just describe Fantasy in general.

[Anonymous No.20803154]

>>20803140
But most of that trash doesn't sell at all, thankfully. Why his lowest common denominator trash manages to, I'll never understand. Just riding off the coattails of Jordan?

[Anonymous No.20803161]

>>20803140
>>>/lit/

[Anonymous No.20803168]

>>20802763
>Malazan
>only counting 10 out of 24 books

[Anonymous No.20803172]

>>20803154
Why do you care? Let people read what they want. Seems mentally sick to obsessed over something so trivial.

[Anonymous No.20803444]

>>20799772
I simply saw it as Gully outgrowing his stupid, selfish, criminal self. He saw his reflection in her and was disgusted by himself.

[Anonymous No.20803455]

>>20800162
It's okay to hate men now. Nothing weird about it when you realize that's the game. Hate men. Hate the things they enjoy. Men aren't allowed to be entertained. Men are vile. Men should die poor and homeless in a gutter somewhere.

[Anonymous No.20803461]

>>20798994
Sounds like another good reason to cut out female characters.

[Anonymous No.20803471]

>>20799048
Rush were libertarians until Rand Paul wanted to play their song at a rally, then suddenly they were the jew.

[Anonymous No.20803475]

>>20803168
I wonder how many of us only read the 10 from Book of the Fallen?

[Anonymous No.20803478]

>>20803475
I read the first 2, got sad at the 2nd one's ending and stopped reading

[Anonymous No.20803488]

>>20803475
I'm one of those. The series ended okay enough for me. I don't need to continue.

[Anonymous No.20803491]

>>20799169
The first few were good, simple stories served right across home plate. But it got popular and so he had to write more and more of them and then they got too simple and boring.

[Anonymous No.20803537]

>>20800268
BV Larson is a genuinely good read. One thing I really like is that the good guys are mostly on the same side, they are each on their own side too. It's brings more energy than those books where everybody just falls into line to get behind the hero's agenda.

[Anonymous No.20803639]

>>20798994
I hope both of these idiots starve in the same shitlib ghetto when the uprisings start.

[Anonymous No.20803659]

>>20803654
>>20803654
>>20803654
new

[Anonymous No.20803665]

New thread
>>20803662

[Anonymous No.20803668]

>>20803665
Good art.

[Anonymous No.20803698]

>>20803659
OP, I know you thought nobody saw what you did, but can you at least delete your thread?

[Anonymous No.20803699]

>>20803659
Premature

>>20803665
Ejaculator

[Anonymous No.20803708]

>>20803698
impossible plus I posted it 40'seconds before

[Anonymous No.20803710]

>>20803698
He asked a question, delete the question and ask in the other thread. Now I’m wondering why he’s keeping that thread up if he’s not goin got use it.

[Anonymous No.20803714]

>>20803708
Not really impossible, you just check the box on the OP and just delete post, the thread will be deleted.

[Anonymous No.20803722]

>>20794995
books that goes indepth about the economics of factions and other realistic elements (opposite of shallow two dimensional factions, cultures, and characters) and also that the world is also in a state of medieval style total war?

[Anonymous No.20803725]

>>20803708
Your thread is gay, the other is better.

[Anonymous No.20803730]

>>20803659
Your thread is gay, the other is better.

[Anonymous No.20803739]

>>20803659
>>20803708
He’s also samefagging on the better threads. Dude is intentionally ruin a good thread.

[Anonymous No.20803745]

>>20803714
>>20803725
>>20803730
>>20803739
you should go fucking kill yourself nigger