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I like this guy but I hate the way he writes. Schopenhauer is much clearer and much more enjoyable to read. Who else can I read that is similar to Nietzsche?

>> No.20772109

>>20772104
hmmm...Spengler or Davila maybe?

>> No.20772122

>>20772104
The Gist of Nietzsche by H. L. Mencken
https://archive.org/details/gistnietzsche00mencgoog/page/n28/mode/2up

>> No.20772150

>>20772104
what have you read by him?

>> No.20772174

>>20772150
Skimmed a bit of everything

>> No.20772221

Klages is often mentioned in this context but idk
also Mainländer but he's wayyyy more pessimistic
Bataille but you'll probably hate his writing too

>> No.20772237

>>20772104
Jung

>> No.20772629

>>20772104
I'm the opposite, I generally enjoy the language that Nietzsche uses but I am not a fan of his ideas. I don't find them boring, mind you, I just think they are potentially dangerous.

>> No.20772638

>>20772104
>I like this guy but I hate the way he writes. Schopenhauer is much clearer and much more enjoyable to read

Then you don't like him. He writes like that for a reason. His style is his argument as much as his reasoning is. There is nobody similar to Nietzsche unless they write like him.

>> No.20772685

>>20772104
You could read secondary academic literature on him.
I would recommend Nietzsche's System and Nietzsche's Values by John Richardson. Both books are clearly written attempted reconstructions of his philosophy. They're expensive, so I would get the pdfs from libgen.
Two sep entries to consider:

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nietzsche/
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nietzsche-moral-political/

Nietzsche greatly admired Ralph Waldo Emerson and referred to him as a "brother soul", though there are substantial differences between them. I recommend the rather Nietzschean essays Self Reliance, Fate, and Power.

Also:
Max Stirner (have not read him, but he advocates egoism and the illegitmacy of moral and religious thought in a way that apparently has affinities with Nietzsche)

orgyofthewill.net, if you want to see the writings of a psychopath videogame addict who claims to be Nietzsche's heir.

>> No.20772708

>>20772638
Incorrect. Nietzsche has a number of important ideas and theories that can be stated in any style.

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>>20772104
>>20772685
Stirner. Stirner can't replace Nietzsche as Nietzsche discusses more ideas across his work, but Stirner does cover a number of Nietzsche's major ideas in a completely different style. For example the way Stirner described the french revolution is similar to Nietzsche's view of it and Nietzsche's slave revolt in morality. Although it didn't necessarily incorporate the ideas about resentment like Nietzsche did (although it did discuss power simply shifting hands without any kind of real moral justification, and about how the common people wanted power), but regardless, the ways that Stirner's perspective differs seem to nonetheless incorporate other major ideas found in Nietzsche's works. For example Stirner believed that Christianity and Protestantism led to the dominion of ideas like liberty and justice over a person's sensual experience of the world, and hence even though resentment is a smaller focus in Stirner's work, the idea that conscience is trained and used to manipulate people is still the same-- "This tearing apart of man into 'natural impulse' and 'conscience' (inner populace and inner police) is what constitutes the Protestant. The reason of the bible (in place of the catholic 'reason of the church') ranks as sacred, and this feeling and consciousness that the word of the bible is sacred is called - conscience".

>> No.20774697

>>20772174
So you haven’t read anything?

>> No.20774831

>>20772708
I really doubt he meant it like that. Especially when he explicitly refers to writing style

>> No.20774887

>>20772685
I'd second Emerson and also recommend La Rochefoucauld, whose apohorisms Nietzsche partly modeled his own after.