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[Anonymous No.20740593]

Was Jumi Bello wrong for plagiarizing her novel, or is the publishing industry to blame for attempting to exploit a Black neurodivergent woman?

https://airmail.news/issues/2022-7-23/under-the-influence

>But the irony inherent in the incident unleashed a wave of online Schadenfreude. Soon some of the discourse was breaking down along racial lines, with many BIPOC writers hastening to her defense. “This industry is not safe for Black neurodivergent writers and the people in power are not interested in making it safe,” tweeted the best-selling novelist Akwaeke Emezi. “When it goes well, everyone and their mama was now involved, but when it goes to shit, it’s only the author who takes the fall.”

[Anonymous No.20740604]

stfu boi

[Anonymous No.20740617]

>>20740593
Honestly we were wrong for removing her ancestors from their natural habitat.

[Anonymous No.20740642]

>>20740593
>This industry is not safe for Black neurodivergent writers
These people are such pussies. What the heck does "safe" mean? No ones gonna try and knife you.

[Anonymous No.20740674]

>>20740593
If blacks ever do succeed in making crime ‘safe’, I hope I’m dead by that point

[Anonymous No.20740947]

>In a paragraph on the history of plagiarism, Bello had committed plagiarism yet again.

[Anonymous No.20741010]

what is unfortunate is that after all the dumbing-down and non-gatekeeping you have weak people like this seeking out literature as a career and expecting the entire climate -- not only the critical and commercial parts but the actual craft as well -- to be adjusted according to their needs and abilities. if things are as bad as she says, this lady should be in some group home, knitting sweaters for the homeless or something. not out competing in the arts. i don't mind if my authors are schizos, i don't mind if they're black schizos, i don't mind if they're neuroblahblahblah but they can't be fucking pussies. you have to be a cunt and a savage to hack it in the book world

[Anonymous No.20741030]

>>20740593
>Emezi identifies as non-binary transgender. They use the pronouns they/them/theirs.[34][35] They experience multiplicity and consider themself an ogbanje.[35][36] They have written about their experience of undergoing gender confirmation surgery.[37]

These are the people getting all the deals, prizes and grants.

[Anonymous No.20741242]

>>20741030
problem?

[Anonymous No.20741248]

>>20741030
>They experience multiplicity

[Anonymous No.20741259]

>>20741248
>They don't experience multiplicity

[Anonymous No.20741366]

>>20740593
Okay, I just finished the article. Shit goes off the rails in the second part. It doesn't please me one bit to say this but /pol/ was right about everything. Burgers, you have my deepest sympathy.

[Anonymous No.20741423]

>>20740593
>says Faylita Hicks, the author of a poetry collection called HoodWitch
This article is a fucking goldmine.

[Anonymous No.20741460]

>>20741423
>Even a line on the last page of Bello’s book—“because what is a girl but a body of water, what is a woman but an attempt to return”—closely echoes the title of Jennifer Nansubuga Makumbi’s 2020 novel, A Girl Is a Body of Water.

>I then go back and re-read the opening pages of The Leaving and am struck by a sentence that neither Bello nor Morgan had flagged: “To be young, to be black, to be a woman is to face your own destruction in innumerable ways, or to flee it or the knowledge of it, or all these things at once.” The first time I read it, I had thought it felt familiar in the way that good writing often does.

>But now I’m not so sure. I google it, and the first result is a link to Rebecca Solnit’s Recollections of My Nonexistence, a 2020 memoir that contains this line: “To be a young woman is to face your own annihilation in innumerable ways or to flee it or the knowledge of it, or all these things at once.” When I read Bello her line, and then Solnit’s right after it, she sighs. “I have a flaw in my writing process.”

[Anonymous No.20741508]

>>20741423
I like the part where a white guy berates her for eating hummus

[Anonymous No.20741512]

Plagiarism is morally wrong. The demographic information of the guilty party has no bearing whatsoever on the impermissibly of plagiarism.

[Anonymous No.20741800]

>>20740593
>This industry is not safe for Black neurodivergent writers and the people in power are not interested in making it safe,
What kind of pilpul is this? The commie subspecies?

[Anonymous No.20741854]

>>20741030
damn nigga you gay

[Anonymous No.20741924]

>>20741460
Stop laughing it's not funny

[Anonymous No.20741956]

>>20740593
Ascribing human agency to blacks is White Supremacist violence.

[Anonymous No.20741968]

>>20741956
*Black bodies

[Anonymous No.20741991]

>>20741030
Wtf is a non-binary transgender? Isn't the whole point of transgenderism that there are two genders and you switch to another? If there is more than two then you're just non-binary or genderfluid, but not transgender.

[Anonymous No.20742015]

>>20741991
Shh! Do you want to get cancelled?

[Anonymous No.20742024]

>>20741854
Damn... was it the septum piercing? The little gay bike? The framed picture of a tarted-up sex doll with a ball gag?

[Anonymous No.20742033]

>>20741991
They experience multiplicity

[Anonymous No.20742039]

>>20742024
>was it the septum piercing
he's wearing pants retard

[Anonymous No.20742052]

>>20742039

[Anonymous No.20742066]

>>20741259
>shut the fuck up you gay ass nigger

[Anonymous No.20742136]

>>20740593
>Unbeknownst to anyone but a few, Spanish author Carmen Mola (a known pseudonym to her readers) was operating her entire literary career under an identity that is comprised, not of one, but three men collaborating together under the assumed name. “Carmen Mola,” touted as a down-to-earth university professor and mother of three, is the literary brainchild of television scriptwriters Jorge Diaz, Agustin Martinez, and Antonio Mercero. To make matters even more confusing, “Carmen Mola” entered her book, The Beast (La Bestia), to compete for the prize under the assumed name Sergio Lopez…yet another pseudonym. Imagine the audience’s confusion as three men walked up to the podium to receive the luxurious prize and give their acceptance speech.

[Anonymous No.20742172]

>>20742033
What is that?

[Anonymous No.20742183]

>>20741242
Trololol

[Anonymous No.20742206]

>>20741991
Quantum superposition identity

[Anonymous No.20742295]

>>20742172
Being multiple

[Anonymous No.20742416]

>>20741512
No it isn't.

[Anonymous No.20742439]

>>20741460
>“I have a flaw in my writing process.”

[Anonymous No.20743656]

>>20742439
On par with "we tortured some folks."

[Anonymous No.20743674]

>>20742136
So many Mexican names. Are Latinos actually great at literature?

[Anonymous No.20743915]

>>20742439
>You have a f—a flaw in your... yeah, okay...

[Anonymous No.20744808]

>>20743674
There are a few that stand out. 2666. I'm the only anon shilling Shape of the Ruins. I started that other contemporary thread with "Trust" and the other book. Hated Garcia Marquez.

[Anonymous No.20744869]

>>20742024
the apple computer desu

[Anonymous No.20744873]

>>20740593
i've never read her work. what's a neurodivergent?

[Anonymous No.20744900]

>>20744873
it's the polite way of calling someone a retard. you don't hear it thrown around for black people very often though. kind of redundant.

[Anonymous No.20744910]

plagiarismtoday.com article:
>For those who missed it, author Jumi Bello published an essay with the goal of explaining why her upcoming book was cancelled for plagiarism.
>However, that essay contained parts that were plagiarized (albeit with heavy rewriting) from a 2011 post on this site

[Anonymous No.20744934]

>>20744910
University of Iowa needs to take back her degree.

[Anonymous No.20744958]

>>20744900
aww then leave her be.

[Anonymous No.20744965]

>>20741030
>framed picture of white person crying and getting choked out by BDSM gag
>this is what she has chosen to hang beside her desk, to look at all day every day of her life
Totally normal

[Anonymous No.20744970]

>>20744958
when she leaves literature alone

>>20744965
>she

[Anonymous No.20744978]

>>20741030
>They experience multiplicity and consider themself an ogbanje.[35][36]
what

[Anonymous No.20744983]

>>20744978
roughly translated
>he is a mentally ill faggot and considers himself an oogabooga

[Anonymous No.20744984]

>>20744910
unironically based

[Anonymous No.20745150]

>Her first poems that won some kind of contest were plagiarized
>Her "autobiographical" fiction that got her into Iowa for grad school was plagiarized
>Her work during the grad school program was plagiarized
>Her debut novel was plagiarized
>Her apology essay explaining why she plagiarized all this shit was plagiarized
>She is inconsolably upset that she only got to keep $100,000 of the over $200,000 promised her for the book she didn't write and crying about how the industry wronged her
This cannot have actually happened, what in the fuck
This would be completely unbelievable in any form of fiction, it's simply too ridiculous

[Anonymous No.20745192]

>>20745150
So what you're saying is you've never met a black person.

[Anonymous No.20745231]

>>20745150
The publishing industry tired to milk an insane person for diversity clout, and the person lost it. The Israeli hummus story had me shitting bricks though

[Anonymous No.20745256]

>>20745231
>The Israeli hummus story

What?

[Anonymous No.20745260]

>>20745231
You're making her out to be way too much of a victim. She built an entire career on being completely full of shit and stealing everything she produced.
If anything the publishers should be expecting somebody graduating with a PhD from that program to know how to fucking write, the fact that she wasn't kicked out of the school should be used to shame it until the end of time.
>The Israeli hummus story
It's fucking hilarious that all these loons are each other's greatest threats. As somebody who went to college with some of those same assorted DSA faggots, they would be at each other's throats over the dumbest shit like this all the time. All of them have "toxic roommate" stories like this and all of them have separate stories being told about them. None of the normal people they rail so hard against would do any of this shit to them but they're doomed to never realize that.

[Anonymous No.20745275]

>>20745256
It's in the article. Part of the "pressures" that forced Bello to spend her entire career plagiarizing everything she ever wrote were that she had mean roommates.
They were throwing some kind of party for a guest speaker at their MFA program and Bello went out to get snacks for it, including some Israeli hummus. Her tranny roommate exploded at her and accused her of supporting the Palestinian genocide. Another roommate said the tranny, being white, cannot speak to a black about genocide.
It would be too on-the-nose to even be written as a parody.

[Anonymous No.20745277]

>>20745150
they don't actually care about plagerization, they have to pretend to care, because even if her work wasn't plagerized it still wouldn't be worth the paper it's printed on, much less 200 grand. These awards are handed out based on how black and retarded and gay a person is. Their literary output is an afterthought.

[Anonymous No.20745470]

>>20745260
I more read it as she was a legit insane person trying to find her place in the world, the publishing industry trying to make cash, and the plagiarism as an inevitability of her insanity. I see her as nuts, not conniving.

[Anonymous No.20745524]

>>20745150
>only got to keep $100,000 of the over $200,000
Holy fuck. I though average advance was $5k.

[Anonymous No.20745553]

>>20745524
That's the average welfare check.

[Anonymous No.20745591]

>>20745524
It is for 99.99% of debuts.

[Anonymous No.20746124]

>>20745470
>legit insane
She's clearly not out of her mind. She has some issues, takes medication for them, and then uses them to justify being a cunt.

[Anonymous No.20746158]

>>20741991
non-binary is just a type of trans. trans means you don't identify with the gender you were assigned at birth

[Anonymous No.20746170]

>>20740617
Yeah, now we are stuck with them.

[Anonymous No.20746179]

>>20745260
>As somebody who went to college with some of those same assorted DSA faggots, they would be at each other's throats over the dumbest shit like this all the time.
Do you have any example stories?

[Anonymous No.20746415]

>>20741030
Isn’t ogbanje literally a demon or evil spurit in African religion? Why identify as one. That’s pretty horrible

[Anonymous No.20747192]

>>20746415
When people shout at me for making a mess of their pots and pans I tell them I identify as a poltergeist.

[Anonymous No.20747199]

>>20746170
We removed them once, we can do it again.

[Anonymous No.20747382]

>>20741248
I am large, I contain multitudes.

[Anonymous No.20747454]

>>20742439
Since when did blatant plagiarism become a "flaw"?

[Anonymous No.20747495]

>>20747454
Since they started admitting 70 IQ black women to grad school.

[Anonymous No.20748619]

>>20740593
No, she was not wrong.

[Anonymous No.20748673]

Absolutely based beyond believe.

[Anonymous No.20749028]

>>20741991
It's means they identify as looking like a freak because mental illness.

[Anonymous No.20749410]

>>20741460
>this line: “To be a young woman is to face your own annihilation in innumerable ways or to flee it or the knowledge of it, or all these things at once.”
women can't think and are blind to their own privileges lol

[Anonymous No.20749415]

>>20745275
>Her tranny roommate exploded at her and accused her of supporting the Palestinian genocide. Another roommate said the tranny, being white, cannot speak to a black about genocide.
Atheism was a mistake, but it's an hilarious one.

[Anonymous No.20749436]

Both can be wrong. The latter is especially wrong, but not for "exploiting" anyone, but for even letting it get through.

[Anonymous No.20749570]

I do not believe a black person has ever written a book in its entirety. I have never seen evidence to dispute this stance.

[Anonymous No.20749883]

>>20749410
>to be young is to face death!
>o-or to not face death
>oh, or it could be to pretend you aren't facing death
>or i guess it could be all of them at once
Insightful

[Anonymous No.20751319]

The most blackpilling thing about this is that the IWW wanted to make her a 'star'.

[Anonymous No.20751426]

>>20741460
Truly modern day Lautremont is black autistic female

[Anonymous No.20751455]

>>20745150
Umiromically based, gamed the system

[Anonymous No.20752777]

>>20751455
big fat nigger fingers typed this

[Anonymous No.20752783]

>>20741030
Bruh this nigga crazy af no cap

[Anonymous No.20752884]

>>20752777
trips of truth

[Anonymous No.20752895]

>>20741030
That tattoo is to cover up the scar from the skin they took to make her frankenweiner

[Anonymous No.20753184]

>>20752777
holy digits/.

[Anonymous No.20753250]

>>20741030
good god we need to kill them and FAST

[Anonymous No.20753267]

>>20751319
good thing I'm a "national" syndicalist

[Anonymous No.20753270]

>>20741030
Why do elites always rot in such weird ways

It's never just oligarchy, it's always some poop eating death cult with penis grafting

[Anonymous No.20753279]

>>20753267
Sorelian? Have you read Alain de Benoist's book on Edouard Berth?

[Anonymous No.20753297]

>>20745150
>This would be completely unbelievable in any form of fiction
They tried to tell you that truth is stranger than fiction but you didn't listen

[Anonymous No.20753319]

>>20741030
Uhhhh can I get a buck status???

[Anonymous No.20753716]

>>20742024
Hey Mr. I have that bike and I am straight as an arrow.

[Anonymous No.20753973]

>>20740593
Who?

[Anonymous No.20755005]

>>20753250
can it, chud

[Anonymous No.20755024]

>>20740617
No.

[Anonymous No.20755052]

>>20751319
Source?

[Anonymous No.20755081]

>>20755052
>[O]n March 10, 2021, an e-mail chain in which the university’s nonfiction-writing faculty were discussing how best to make the case to get Bello a fellowship was accidentally sent to all nonfiction-writing graduate students in the program.

>“Jumi Bello is a star,” wrote the nonfiction-writing program’s interim director, Meenakshi Gigi Durham, “and when her book is published, it is sure to get a lot of attention. (She has already been approached by 10 literary agents, and the project is still in process.) She has had offers from other M.F.A. programs. She is one of few applicants of color we have had this year.

>“If we don’t fund her, and she goes somewhere else, we lose the association with her success. This has implications for fundraising, and for DEI, and for recruiting faculty and graduate students. Her work is on the level to which we aspire and upon which we’ve built a reputation. She is the next ‘great’ coming out of the NWP [nonfiction-writing program] and the WW [Writers’ Workshop].”

>In the end, Bello did not receive the fellowship, but one month later, her debut novel, The Leaving, sold to Riverhead for $225,000. She was going to be a star. Maybe even the next “great.”

[Anonymous No.20755088]

>>20740593
>be a literally who
>desire recognition
>your writing/publisher isn't competent enough to get you recognition
>screech MUH RACISM
>gain recognition
>cease being a literally who (at least for a little while)

[Anonymous No.20756581]

What happened then?

[Anonymous No.20757701]

>>20741030
Can be summarised with one word: 'narcissist'.

[Anonymous No.20759574]

>giving blacks money
>to write
>giving black women money
>to write
we are all at fault here not just (((them)))

[Anonymous No.20759812]

>>20741030
Why was this image mirrored? Look at the text on the computer screen...