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20696227 No.20696227 [Reply] [Original]

Discuss pessimism.

list of pessimistic books: https://pastebin.com/jmSBPzrW

>> No.20696232
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>>20696227
>For it is a matter of demonstrating a path of salvation recognised by none of the philosophers, particularly not by Sch., the pathway to complete pacification of the Will through love, and that no abstract love of mankind, but the love which actually blossoms from the soil of sexual love, i.e. from the affection between man and woman. It is conclusive, that I am able to use for this (as philosopher, not as poet, since as such I have my own) the terminology which Sch. himself supplies me. The exposition leads very deep and far, for it embraces a preciser explanation of the state in which we become able to apprehend Ideas, as also of that of Genius (Genialitaf), which I no longer conceive as a state of disengagement of the intellect from the will, but rather as an enhancement of the intellect of the individual to a cognitive organ of the race itself (Erkenntnissorgan der Gattung), thus of the Will as Thing-in-itself; whence alone, moreover, is to be explained that strange enthusiastic joyfulness and rapture in the supreme moments of genial cognition which Sch. seems hardly to know, as he can find it [i.e. that mode of cognition] only in repose and in the silencing of the individual passions. Quite analogously to this conception, I then arrive with greatest certainty at proving in Love a possibility of attaining to that exaltation above the instinct of the individual will where, after complete subjection of this latter, the racial will comes to full consciousness of itself; which upon this height is necessarily tantamount to complete pacification. All this will be made clear even to the inexperienced, if my statement succeeds; whilst the result cannot but be very significant, and entirely and satisfactorily fill the gaps in Schopenhauer's system.

>> No.20696400

>>20696232
I hate when non-philosophers try to talk about this shit; they just show themselves up as idiots for straying from their domain.

Though I suppose this must equally infuriate mathematicians & physicists.

Been feeling pretty miserable lately. Don't feel I'll ever manage to neck myself, desu; bad feeling.

>> No.20696443

>>20696400
Wagner was a philosopher all his life and his aesthetics are literally where Nietzsche got his Dionysianism. Otherwise Nietzsche would have had no basis for it under Schopenhauer.

>> No.20696503

>>20696227
need some pessimistic fiction, preferably russian or eastern european in general, need some bleak shit for my paper

>> No.20696541

>>20696232
Love is the answer. Wow. So these retards have always existed?

>> No.20696552

Dude, why can't I get laid? damn...life kinda just sucks...

>> No.20696559

Are there any theistic pessimists?

>> No.20696578

I was just in Frankfurt, visited Schopenhauer's grave.
Place was kind of dirty so I cleaned it up.

>> No.20696598

>>20696227
Stupidest idea of history ever

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>>20696400
>Been feeling pretty miserable lately. Don't feel I'll ever manage to neck myself, desu; bad feeling.
It's nowhere near as difficult as you think, just use fast acting poisons like pic related

>> No.20696970

>>20696552
kys

>> No.20698283

>>20696232
this kills the incel