Why is /lit/ so hateful? Thereotically, it should have a similar tone as /trv/ or /out/. Reading books is a largely comfy experience. Is it merely the short distance between /pol/ or is it just the american posters?

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Anonymous Mon Jul 4 17:54:01 2022 No.20628347 [Reply] [Original]

Why is /lit/ so hateful?
Thereotically, it should have a similar tone as /trv/ or /out/. Reading books is a largely comfy experience.
Is it merely the short distance between /pol/ or is it just the american posters?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 17:56:03 2022 No.20628364 >>20628347 I hate out of a sense of love, love for the things I love, and out of a love of hatred

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 17:56:41 2022 No.20628369 >>20628347 Politics. Politics ruins everything that is good by turning it into tribalistic shitflinging.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 17:57:07 2022 No.20628371 If you don't hate something, how can you know if you truly love something else?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 17:57:56 2022 No.20628374 >>20628347 if you read Houpelcuck you would know that he writes BBCs and cuck fantasies in his "right wing" books, I feel stupid for reading this BBC writer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 17:58:25 2022 No.20628375 >>20628371 What people hate here though is all the same, not literature related and they bring it up constantly like a homeless man trying to get a stranger to buy into their cult

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:02:00 2022 No.20628395 >>20628347 Because no one here reads

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:02:52 2022 No.20628401

My life is a fucking mess.
I have to write a fucking thesis online because every uni is now long distance and I’m fucking lazy and unmotivated, no friends, no gf, living with my divorced mother, trying to look for a job during the fucking pandemic, trying to lose weight while being unmotivated, having to juggle multiple hobbies on top of it, with a kilometric backlog of books I can never seem to have time to read all the while realizing that the more I drink from the pool of knowledge the deeper it fucking gets.
And you’re telling me to be patient with the trolls and retards posting low quality threads, with the mods deliberately trying to engineer the demise of /lit/?

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:03:02 2022 No.20628404

>>20628347
People attach a lot of their self worth to their intelligence. Lot of former gifted and talented anons here who didn't quite live up to expectation. Stick all that insecurity altogether on a imageboard whose entire identity revolves around being smart and "patrician" and petty ego maintenance is bound to occur.

Also this >>20628369

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:07:20 2022 No.20628427

>>20628347
Having carefully studied your popular children’s television show ‘Teletubbies’ for many years, I am confident I have gained a basic mastery of its essential content. Please forgive me if I suggest this understanding was acquired with greater ease than is altogether healthy, or compatible with appropriate hermetic prudence on your part. To be frank, the teletubbies wear their occult pedigree on their furry jumpsuits – their direct derivation from the five diplodemons of Sumatran time sorcery being starkly apparent to any but the most vegetative ignoramus.
Thus, the obvious question arises: what happened to the fifth Teletubby?

While frustrated by the inaccessibility of the information specified above, I am also alarmed by the denuded hermeticism characterizing your show. Although we initiates of the arcane circle have long-understood that the future of religion on this planet approximates far more closely to the Teletubbies than to any existing organized faith, is it entirely wise to pronounce this truth so baldly to an ill-educated public? Such things have been occulted for a reason, I am sure you would agree.

Was it really necessary, for example, to so exactly portray the hideous ecstasies of the Tzog-Murtha ritual? A glistening vortex activates and the beings moan “Uh oh”, their eyes droop with bliss and they fall on their backs in technocosmic delirium. After the ‘big hug’ (is no blasphemy to be hidden from the world’s toddlers?) they clamber up ‘a hill’ and stand in the loose spectral formation, their antennae illuminated by the transmission and their belly monitors sparking with static from the Outer Spheres, as they await the Chosen One. It is rare indeed for even the most determined investigators into this abominable rite to have witnessed it unflinchingly portrayed in such comprehensive and graphic detail.

Even those entirely innocent of the Tzog-Murtha cults cannot but be struck by the sorcerous inclinations of the show, with its incantations and manifestation of objects through “songs”. More provocative still is the Baby Sun who mocks God the Father, Logos and the universe of adult authority with its inarticulate burblings and chaotic mirth.

These incautious references are given a further ominous twist by the blatant Lemuro-Cybergothic dimension of the teletubby mechanoverse. Those the Chinese insightfully translate as the “Antennababies” (Tianxian Baobao) are the fully cyborgian inhabitants of a futuristic underground bunker whose ‘parents’ have been replaced by an semi-intelligent autonomous vacuuming unit called Noonoo, combined with a complex subterrestrial acoustic apparatus. Their highly-synthetic diet, produced entirely by machines, consists exclusively of ‘tubby custard’ and ‘tubby toast’ a reiterated affront to the very idea of organic nourishment.

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:07:39 2022 No.20628430

>>20628395
I thought that too, surely if you had the experience of reading literature you would eventually realise how to compartmentalise both reality and reading effectively.
Also philosophy, non-fiction and religious commentary can very easily be written badly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:10:47 2022 No.20628441 >>20628427 based effortposter. "I Have No Noonoo, and I Must Vacuum"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:14:11 2022 No.20628460 File: 234 KB, 538x926, Screenshot 2022-07-04 at 19.13.02.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >that height the unmoggable

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:16:26 2022 No.20628475

>>20628347
Most literature especially the more recently released is only allowed to be published if it serves the greater political agenda (ESG scores, new fad, new attempt to manipulate people etc.). Its just all so tiresome to see the consoomers fall for it again and again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:17:08 2022 No.20628484 >>20628347 book culture have intellectual airs and status. this attracts many pseuds. pseuds are very insecure and mean because they have to work hard to hide their ignorance. it also makes actually smart people mean when they have to deal with them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:19:15 2022 No.20628498 >>20628347 The world of literature inevitably rests on agon. Likewise commentary on the world of literature, i.e., places like /lit/.

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:22:03 2022 No.20628508

>>20628347
A lot of the hate you see is ironic. If you start a thread with "I love [topic] and here's why..." no one will respond. If, however, you say "[topic] is the most retarded shit i've seen" then you will garner all of the (You)s. People discovered this long ago, and is now the default on /lit/.
See: bait

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:24:35 2022 No.20628520 >>20628475 That's true, but apart from the Rupi Kaur jokethreads, it's not talked about here, so that can't be it. If anything the tiredness comes from a constant attempt at appealing to the most anti-social fads.

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:43:13 2022 No.20628606

>>20628401
>My life is a fucking mess.
>I have to write a fucking thesis online because every uni is now long distance and I’m fucking lazy and unmotivated, no friends, no gf
are you me? I'm allmost 2 years in and haven't finished my thesis yet. It's hard realizing that no one gives a shit about me either, even if I knew it from theory

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:45:48 2022 No.20628619 >>20628606 what are you writing about anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:46:52 2022 No.20628628 >>20628606 They make everyone do this nowadays

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:47:09 2022 No.20628629 >>20628347 man, i love lit memes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:50:05 2022 No.20628648 >>20628347 >or is it just the american posters? Some of my countrymen are assholes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:51:59 2022 No.20628657 >>20628606 Is a phd basically about writing your first book?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:58:19 2022 No.20628681 >>20628347 Fuck off tranny.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 19:06:14 2022 No.20628709 >>20628347 /pol/ scum who treat this board as a subsidiary

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 19:07:24 2022 No.20628714 >>20628347 >Why is /lit/ so hateful? Because no one here reads

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 19:07:32 2022 No.20628715 Hollowbeck is decadence at its most boring

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 19:11:29 2022 No.20628740 >>20628347 >Reading books is a largely comfy experience Depends on what you read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 19:27:30 2022 No.20628817 >>20628371 Because it's an objective spiritual state, not a relative experience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 19:32:47 2022 No.20628847 >>20628347 it's because you're posting on a website called four chan dot org

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 19:35:34 2022 No.20628858 File: 2.21 MB, 2722x2722, john milton.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20628347 >Why is /lit/ so hateful? It isn't. Stop with these pathetic strawmans.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 20:10:29 2022 No.20629037 >>20628347 >it should have a similar tone as /trv/ the one time I went on /trv/ the entire catalog was about sex tourism, where to get whores in various countries

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 20:20:22 2022 No.20629082 >>20628404 based take. sounds accurate

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 20:32:44 2022 No.20629146

>>20628404
Very early on i accepted that i was never going to something. I have no discernible talents. I am just a consumer guy, a nonentity . Though i gradually came to accept this. I can also see how it will bite at better anons here who actually seemed to have talent. Post-gamergate everyone has been turning bitter and unhappy with political and cultural polarisation. It's sad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 20:34:37 2022 No.20629157 >>20628347 is the American in the room with us right now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 20:37:07 2022 No.20629168 >>20628347 >Why is /lit/ so hateful? Doesn't read enough books Also created to late in 4chans lifecycle to have its own culture and identity so it inherits the idea that discussion on an imageboard is meant to be shit on purpose.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 20:48:09 2022 No.20629220 >>20628347 The right loves "traditional" things, books are "traditional" art and also don't require going outside.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 20:49:22 2022 No.20629225 >>20629168 >shit on purpose. Fuck you retard. I need to be called out on my retardation. Look how unfairly I'm judging you. Isn't that retarded? You should probably call me a retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 20:57:57 2022 No.20629260 >>20629225 If I could do one thing for 4chan it would be to make ironic shitposting is still shitposting a global rule and actually enfocred. Though enforcing the current rules would be a great start.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 21:05:20 2022 No.20629287 remember when shitposting meant posts that were shit and not an activity to aspire to?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 21:08:58 2022 No.20629305 >>20629260 You should go somewhere else retard. Do you disagree with the content of the post? Can you even begin to communicate your disagreement at all?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 21:11:16 2022 No.20629317 >>20629305 >You should go somewhere else retard. Nobody wishes for this more than me. Your a good example though, too many anons trying to be funny as opposed to trying to have fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 21:11:27 2022 No.20629318 >>20628347 OP, for what it is worth, I love you and everyone who posts here. Love is ultimately the best and only good response we have to the world and everything in and of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 21:14:20 2022 No.20629332 >>20628648 That's me, im asshole

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 21:15:18 2022 No.20629338

>>20629317
The issue is you don't understand anything because you're retarded and actively avoid being corrected on your retardation. You think that calling you out for being retarded is being "hateful" because you're a retard. I'm not trying to be funny and never was. I'm trying to correct a retard as I would like to be corrected and called out if I was saying something retarded.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 21:17:35 2022 No.20629354 >>20629338 >I'm not trying to be funny and never was. There is no other reason to do what you do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 21:27:54 2022 No.20629412 >>20629168 >Doesn't read enough books /lit/ just doesn't read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 21:35:57 2022 No.20629447 >>20628404 This is it. We're smart but we failed. People lean on their positive qualities in that situation to give them superiority over others

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 21:40:57 2022 No.20629470

There's an overabundance of autist debatelord types. They care more about winning a conversation through small minded language games than the overall exploration of a topic and the pursuit of truth. Their definition of truth is that they are 100% correct and any counter claim is an attack to be dismantled rather than a potentially enlightening alternative perspective. Far far too many of these exist than selfless souls only interested in truth divorced from ego.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 21:42:25 2022 No.20629480 >>20628427 This is why I still continue to delve through the tweet posts, 10/10

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 21:44:31 2022 No.20629491 >>20629447 >We're smart No you're not

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 22:03:43 2022 No.20629567

>>20629354
You can't imagine any because you're a retard. I'm not even saying anything new but these very basic ideas about the value of honest communication are inconceivable to a retard like you that thinks this board is "hateful" for calling you a retard when you clearly are a retard.

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 23:44:05 2022 No.20629935

>/out/
>Nice
Anon /out/ is one of the least well adjusted boards, full of gearfagging, accusations of gearfagging, pointless drama, le ebin TED K XDDDDD, LARPing and more gearfagging. Though if you wade through the shit you will find some diamonds, same with any other board, its just that the slower the board the less shit accumulates and the better it seems in comparison consider the speed of /v/ - /lit/ - /diy/ and compare the ontopic discussion had on the respective boards increasing as posts per minute slows down as anons actually care about these slower conversations and thus the board is better for it. Also /lit/ is a bunch of shut in, pseudo intellectual types who're nearly utterly alienated from society with their ego and intellectual hedonism.
t. /outlit/ fag

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 00:13:52 2022 No.20630045 >>20629935 >Anon /out/ is one of the least well adjusted boards, full of gearfagging, accusations of gearfagging, pointless drama, le ebin TED K XDDDDD, LARPing and more gearfagging. Sounds better than /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 00:15:33 2022 No.20630050 >>20628364 Nazis keep saying this silly bullshit, but that's not how love works. You don't have to destroy an outgroup in order to love an in-group. You're hilariously retarded.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 00:39:11 2022 No.20630126

>>20628369
>>20628395
>>20628404
>>20629470
These. Lit was always unbearable in a pretentious way, but nu-lit is just unbearable and off topic. The last quote about the debatelords is spot on. Too many come to this board looking to argue. I see the same talking points and “refutations” posted daily. It gets tiring. Maybe I’m just getting older but it seems a miserable to always be looking to argue over the smallest thing. Combine that with that barely any literature is discussed anymore and it’s all culture war and incel stuff, you have a terrible board

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 00:42:31 2022 No.20630135 Do you not browse /tv/ at all?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 00:47:19 2022 No.20630156 >>20630050 You can destroy out of compassion and love. Read moar esoteric texts.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 00:51:39 2022 No.20630173
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>>20630126
the way i will try to improve this board in the future, within the limited scope of my own ability, is to just make a thread for books i read that are of particular note for some reason or another. i will have my own ideas formed about the books, so as to be capable of providing a starting point for a potential discussion, and hopefully be able to respond to anons who choose to participate. it takes some willpower to ignore the off topic and /pol/cel related discussions that seem frequently to emerge, maggot like, from the pale corpse of this board, but i will try to ignore these also. maybe this is enough to at least generate some discussions about literature on this board that is apparently built for this purpose.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 00:54:29 2022 No.20630181 >>20628369 Why don't we just ban threads on political topics? Including philosophy?

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 01:06:36 2022 No.20630234

>>20630173
I’m rarely making threads anymore because they are too easily derailed. The shitposters find other shitposters in every thread. Those posters will simply go to Wikipedia, find the writer’s views, quotes, etc and villainize or lionize in the thread. The culture war is seeping into everything

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:18:16 2022 No.20630505 >>20630135 /trv/ not /tv/, /tv/ is just capeshit and zoomer off-topic /celeb/, rarely there is a thread which talks films. Which in a way is what this board has looked like since 16'.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:19:40 2022 No.20630509 >>20630181 Except for gommunism amirite fellow kike

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:20:32 2022 No.20630514 >>20630505 /pol/ destroyed this board. I’m guessing it’s the same every other board too

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:27:31 2022 No.20630549

>>20628347
This is retarded. Literature has so much influence on politics that it's almost impossible to not discuss any popular books without also discussing politics. Fuck you and go back. You act surprised that most popular board also has the greatest influence on the whole website.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:29:54 2022 No.20630557 christoids and reactionaries are on a holy quest to remove anything remotely interesting there's definitely controlled operations going on, or at least some very sad, strangely motivated people with a lot of time on their hands

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:36:35 2022 No.20630578 >>20628401 >And you’re telling me to be patient with the trolls and retards posting low quality threads, with the mods deliberately trying to engineer the demise of /lit/? Meds

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:37:27 2022 No.20630581 >>20629037 that doesn't sound 'negative' though, maybe sleazy and knowingly bankrupt but it's on topic in the same way that Lolita and Story of the Eye is on topic. >>20629318 thank you anon

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:37:28 2022 No.20630582

>>20630234
It's because you never said anything even remotely interesting.
The three main sincere groups here seem to be
1. Empty jerkoffs who read a lot but don't understand much. They like to namedrop 5 different authors as sources to bolster their long blogs stating that fish live in water. This is probably you. A lot of them think they're commies but can't defend any of their ideas.
2. Metamodern post-ironic uberchads like me. They're the only ones that sometimes deliver but even that's rare.
3. Kids trying to be chads like me but failing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:37:44 2022 No.20630585 >>20630514 You will never be a woman.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:39:07 2022 No.20630587 >>20630557 see >>20630585

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:40:17 2022 No.20630589 >>20630549 recklessly swearing and attacking in your post meant to defend politics posting on this board does not do your argument justice.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:43:31 2022 No.20630596

>>20630234
it's usually when threads become fast and response heavy enough to become effectively pinned when you get the dopamine fixxers who can't scrooool and must argue RIGHT NOW, in a way /lit/ deserves to be much slower. The slower the board, the less argue coom it seems to display afaik

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:44:16 2022 No.20630598 >>20630587 god literally isn't real

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:45:45 2022 No.20630603 >>20630589 I believe in the value of swearing and verbal attacks both philosophically to better approach the truth and as an interesting literary device. Your lack of swearing and attacks does not do your argument justice, retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:46:22 2022 No.20630605 >>20630598 But god is ideal, much like the woman you will never be.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:48:11 2022 No.20630612 >>20630605 >complete non-sequitur is this what the esoteric hitlerite tradcath discord debate club teaches you

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:52:14 2022 No.20630618
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>>20628401
At least your honest, unlike the emotional projectionists on this thread. I wish you luck anon. Keep your focus and slay those goals one at a time, two if you can and don't be too hard on yourself.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:52:54 2022 No.20630621

>>20630557
I think there is at least a few posters who want this board in their image. They’ll attack genuine threads on specific books with “low effort post” and just try to derail them in general. There is also the one anon who always responds to people complaining of nu-lit with “boo hoo cry more bitch. Be the change you want to see. I was here since the inception, lit was always like this. High quality effortpost or don’t post at all” while ignore the hundreds of blatantly off topic threads. I definitely think some /pol/ anons actively try to brainwash. Lots of revisionism going on now. Lots of harmless threads derailed purposely

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:54:11 2022 No.20630626

>>20630603
I find swearing to be mostly unneccessary since I do not know you as a person and swearing ought to be used either in private to show exasperation or to deliberately escalate or attempt to humiliate someone, which in both places I shall remind you that this is the internet and not the local playground. Nor do I think swearing is a byword for truth, in many cases it is just a failed pre-written button pressed to make a statement read like it did something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:56:26 2022 No.20630633 >>20630549 It didn’t use to be that way years ago. If you guys have to politicize everything, don’t blame neoliberals or leftists for doing the same in the real world. That would be hypocritical. Both sides are using the same tactics

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:57:22 2022 No.20630636 >>20629146 You're still alive. You can still try. If you decide to try know that I'm trying too across the world

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:57:29 2022 No.20630638 >>20630626 Show dick or go back tranny

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:00:51 2022 No.20630650

>>20628347
/lit/ is hateful because of people who don’t read and people who do read but only as a kind of aesthetic pseudointellectual larp, this is also why so much of this board wants to discuss politics and philosophy without specific books despite the fact that /his/ was literally created to keep them out of here. This also attracts people who are too autistic or too stupid to properly engage with literature as an artform and get mad at it as a result (the most hilarious example of this was when a bunch of anons who insisted that fiction was a waste of time revealed that they actually liked some fiction books, and the books in question were revealed as all scifi/fantasy books because they had the intellectual maturity of a 13 year old)

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:04:49 2022 No.20630667

>>20630650
If someone wants to talk politics or philosophy, they should have to timestamp their books on that subject and quote a specific passage. Too many getting info from second hand sources and not reading. Better yet would be a religion board, a philosophy board, and political discussion goes on pol where it should. It painfully obvious that most political discussion isn’t involving a specific book

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:05:43 2022 No.20630672

>>20630626
Correctly used it slightly amplifies emotional pressure and challenges you. The most value I ever got out of any forums was through brutal criticism. Point is it's not inherently hateful or unproductive. The best scientists will tell you they love the feeling of being proven wrong and I feel the same way. Call out my retardation, find the weak spots in my posts and my character flaws that produced them. I would be eternally grateful.
You have in your mind an ideal of discourse that doesn't work. We tried this in 2006, it turned into reddit. The goal becomes circlejerking instead of progressing. Just like science works when it's about brutal criticism and fails when it becomes about establishing a consensus. There is no bottom, we can always dig deeper so consensus just means stagnation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:06:00 2022 No.20630673 >>20628347 >Why is /lit/ so hateful? Because /lit/ is a den of bitter, deranged, unproductive cretins and whatever they have to say about anything the very opposite is most likely true. Nothing here is ever of any value.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:07:58 2022 No.20630684 >>20630650 Where do I go to discuss the contents of books and the meaning conveyed instead of the books themselves and how many I've read?

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:11:33 2022 No.20630697

>>20630667
I do this and then get ignored while 200 more posts show up in the thread arguing about whose reading of Nietzsche is correct, the only response I get is someone telling me I killed the thread by quoting an actual book. It's not worth it.
>>20630684
/his/

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:11:46 2022 No.20630699

>>20628347
Becuse most people here don't read or bearly read.

They just want to have opions about popular thing/poltical book they don't agree with/thing the read a summary on and didn't like.

Alternatively they're just /pol/ tards or schizos who picked up a hobby.

Either way few people are book worms and even fewer are well adjusted book worms on here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:14:04 2022 No.20630710 >>20630699 >Alternatively they're just /pol/ tards or schizos who picked up a hobby. So you're angry because there are people who read things you disagree with. Interesting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:15:10 2022 No.20630716 >>20630697 Your biggest mistake was assuming /lit/ reads.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:15:31 2022 No.20630717 The underhanded tactics used.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:15:48 2022 No.20630718 >>20630638 this is a blue board

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:18:46 2022 No.20630729 >>20630509 You're not baiting people and you're ridiculously insecure. There should be a philosophy board. End of story. Or move it to hist.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:20:08 2022 No.20630734

>>20630716
There are people who read here but they’re dwindling badly. Mods need to step in. Honest threads are derailed or sink to the bottom quickly. That’s what the /poltards and tradlarpers don’t understand or choose to ignore when they tell quality posters to make better posts. They try to make the victims feel like they are to blame. At this point I consider a quality poster someone who makes on topic threads about books or authors that belong on this board. It’s sad how far it sunk

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:20:45 2022 No.20630738

>>20630672
nice effortpost. I see what you mean, one of the charms of 4chan is its lack of filter. However, it's mostly consumed by it to make the point N/A.
I think people mostly swear to replace a real argument.
e.g. So you swear, now what do you propose? Usually nothing, or any one of the countless buzzwords appearing since the Trump election.
And so the 'survival of the critics' becomes an endless circlejerk all the same where people post the buzzwords until the wheels fall off.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:22:33 2022 No.20630744

>>20630697
>/his/
They read even less and are even bigger commies.
>>20630557
Can anyone reference an example of this? I've seen many fine threads deleted, none because they offended those groups. People like you are the only ones talking about removing anything, in this thread even.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:22:37 2022 No.20630745 >>20630710 Who said I'm angry about anything? I don't care about what you belive I'm just explaining why /lit/ is so manic compared to the other boards op mentioned.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:27:24 2022 No.20630762 >>20630734 >There are people who read here You take a look at the catalog and tell me people here read.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:31:52 2022 No.20630780 >>20630744 /his/ reads less but we also are more redpilled. probably 3x as many redpilled threads, and plenty of people who attack commie trannies whenever they smear up a thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:36:07 2022 No.20630800 >>20630780 Go back to /pol/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:36:26 2022 No.20630802 >>20630050 As matter of fact, you do need to do that.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:36:30 2022 No.20630803

>>20630762
I know I at least read. I’m not a scholar but I’ve been reading as a hobby 50-150 pages a day for 10+ years. I find some anons who can discuss books and I can tell they read. They are usually in low effort threads like stack threads. I would bet a majority haven’t read a book in the last year though. I really think this summer is the dying gasp of the board. I already don’t come here as often as I used to, but it’s hard to quit. I do have one foot out the door. The Ukraine invasion was when /lit/ fell off a cliff. I still need that one lightbulb moment when I see the board is dead and leave for good. I don’t know what that moment can be if I’ve endured this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:38:21 2022 No.20630807 >>20628395 Same goes for every board. No one on /v/ plays videogames, no one on /out/ goes camping, no one on /k/ shoots, let alone owns, guns. I don't think /a/ even watches anime anymore.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:39:24 2022 No.20630818 >>20629491 True, you're not, but I am.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:43:38 2022 No.20630854 >>20630807 >No one on /v/ plays videogames, They do, >no one on /out/ goes camping, Have you never been to /out/? >no one on /k/ shoots, let alone owns, guns. Christ, you're an idiot.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:46:33 2022 No.20630864

>>20628347
Old lit because of insecure dick sizing. New lit because of insecure dick sizing, politics, and incels. Everyone has a chip on their shoulder. It’s a shame reading is seen as a smart hobby. It attracts a wrong crowd, especially in these times

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:49:17 2022 No.20630872 >>20630854 Nigger I brought up those examples because I go to those boards. Nogunz, larper, /in/, /eceleb/, all the same kind of complaint of you saying nobody here reads. But clearly you don't because you couldn't even pick up on the point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:58:46 2022 No.20630903 >>20628347 >jezebel slide ops >question begging slide ops >retard duplicate ops that can't check the catalogue

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 04:08:08 2022 No.20630939 >>20628347 I love hate

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 05:09:36 2022 No.20631128

>>20628347
Most of the politics I see comes from leftoids seething over the fact this board isn't their standard libtard echo chamber. These retards are always the first to bring up /pol/ and/or project it as an insult (and they do it over any expression of something that can be interpreted as traditional/conservative no matter how mild). Aside from this, there has been an influx of trannies and fags and all of the projections of mental illness and seethe that comes with them. Finally, /lit/ has a lot of narcissistic snobs who respond with snark and unearned condescension whenever their pseudery is called out and that usually devolves into trolling. Seeing as OP is crying about the state of the board, my guess is libtard/narcissist who felt the need to pontificate about the ecosystem instead of just writing a quality effortpost someone actually wants to read.

P.S. inb4 /pol/. You don't have to be a schizo to be tired of faggots/trannies and their bullshit (especially after pride month).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 05:15:19 2022 No.20631150 >>20631128 You are seeing ghosts. This board has a huge right wing slant now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 05:29:24 2022 No.20631206 >>20631150 >slant And also plenty of faggots to make threads crying as if it's a quality issue. Cope retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 05:31:07 2022 No.20631215 >>20631206 >as if it’s a quality issue Are you blind? It clearly is

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 05:32:36 2022 No.20631221 >>20628347 your meme explains why, OP because they are largely po-mo materialist retards. midwits who ought to go to church and get started on actually living instead of coping in their bedrooms.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 05:33:55 2022 No.20631229 >>20631128 More or less this. Shitlibs created social environments that select for authoritarian tendencies, then flee seething to better pasture only to cry that places less retarded don't share their politics.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 05:39:35 2022 No.20631252 >>20631128 >everyone that doesn’t want see politics discussed ad nauseum is a leftoid

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 05:40:52 2022 No.20631258 >>20631252 That is correct.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 05:41:20 2022 No.20631260 >>20631258 Go back to /pol/, I just want to discuss books.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 05:41:54 2022 No.20631264 >>20628401 It will end anon, you will finish. t. Was the Same Until Last Semester

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 05:44:51 2022 No.20631276 >>20628347 Posters here don’t read because they are too afraid to become midwits or pseuds. They post about the same 20 books for years since they have never opened those books so they can’t move on to next books

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 05:45:08 2022 No.20631278
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>>20628347
It’s no more hateful than boomer comments on Facebook. You probably need to talk to more normies and average joes—they’re all painfully reactionary. This board is just filled to the brim with normies, because it’s a board about any and all books.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:00:02 2022 No.20631340 >>20631252 >Go back to /pol/ Literally proving his post >>20631128 ("These retards are always the first to bring up /pol/ and/or project it as an insult") in your second post.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:01:56 2022 No.20631351 File: 81 KB, 378x357, 1650090378775.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20631128 >These retards are always the first to bring up /pol/ and/or project it as an insult >>20631260 >Go back to /pol/, I just want to discuss books. Pottery.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:05:20 2022 No.20631363 >/lit/ is incapable of talking about books without having /pol/tards Just kill this bird already. It’ll be a mercy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:07:20 2022 No.20631370 >>20628395 /thread

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:12:46 2022 No.20631379 >>20631260 Is /pol/ in the room with us now, schizo-san?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:14:13 2022 No.20631384 >>20631373 poltical correctness is just reaction against pattern recognition the noticing will stop when there are no more things to notice

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:14:40 2022 No.20631387 >>20631379 You are a /pol/ack who ruins this board, you stupid fucking shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:16:33 2022 No.20631393 >>20631278 It's a testament to the retardation of /pol/tards that I unironically wish for a return to pre-GG /lit/, as shit as it was even back then.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:23:59 2022 No.20631419

>>20631393
Look, the thing is /pol/and lefties both don't want to go back. They love shitting up boards, irrespective of who does it more. I personally have seen the former doing it more over last two years. Both will blame each other and claim to want to go back but they like this politicised bullshit. At least some are honest that they are openly anti-intellectual and here for shitposting and speak only in buzzwords like a broken record.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:24:47 2022 No.20631422 >>20630156 >a book told me to do it ..come on anon

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:25:17 2022 No.20631425

>>20631128
not really, honestly just remove all of the buzzwords you just posted from the board and you'd realise how much cleaner it could be.
In addendum. I have noticed that posters that show their ID badge by their hatred of liberals and troons have nothing extra to say, and so can you really say they were posters?
self-proclaimed communists and marxists or whomever is posting politically usually accompany their believes with long sentences of reasoning, whereas right wing self-proclaimers seem INCAPABLE of telling anyone why "trannies" are bad, why "fags" are bad, besides a gut reaction.
>they are bad because I think they are bad
This is a literature board

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:25:59 2022 No.20631430 >>20631260 You >>20631363 Will >>20631363 Never >>20631387 Be >>20631393 A >>20631419 Woman

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:27:34 2022 No.20631438 >>20628347 /lit/ is filled with nerds who can't get laid so they are angry because they can't get the poossy. Reading books is their escapism method.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:28:50 2022 No.20631446 >>20631430 Which book have you been reading these days?

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:34:36 2022 No.20631467

>>20631419
Not that anon but

>anti-intellectual

what does this even mean? Clearly criticism of academia as a circlejerk and the middle classes as an endless fountain of self-serving ideologies is not a criticism of intellectual activity itself. So the only reason to use "anti-intellectual" like most do is if you consider the views and thoughts of the urbanite middle classes and the institutional mandarins hailing from these classes the alpha and the omega of intellectual thought, the sole torchbearers of intelligence. Which again is clearly extremely self-serving and an appropriation/abuse of the prestige of academy and learning has in western culture.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:35:50 2022 No.20631470 >>20631467 >the prestige of academy and learning has in western culture. *the prestige that academy and learning has in western culture.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:36:41 2022 No.20631472 >>20631446 I don't read books.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:36:49 2022 No.20631474
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>>20628347
>>20628709
>>20630173
>>20630514
>>20630621
>>20630699
>>20630734
>>20630800
>>20631260
>>20631363
>>20631387
>>20631393
>>20631419
>>20631260
You faggots are what's wrong with this board. I'd take 10 sperging /pol/tards who know how to write a decent shitpost and create basic OC over every single one of you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:39:49 2022 No.20631481 >>20631446 I'm currently reading William Shakespeare's "You Will Never Be A Woman". It's an enthralling tale of self-deception and misandry with what I anticipate will be a most tragic ending.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:41:26 2022 No.20631488 >>20631474 Complaining about the quality of this board is what's wrong with this board. It's you. It's always been you. Nobody bitches and moans like /lit/ trannies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:42:48 2022 No.20631491 >>20630181 >expecting hiroshima to do anything useful

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:44:51 2022 No.20631500
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>>20631488
>Complaining about the quality of this board is what's wrong with this board.
I agree.
>It's you. It's always been you.
I'm making fun of them.
>No.20631488
YOUR GET IS A MICROAGGRESSION! MODS! JANNIES!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:48:04 2022 No.20631507 >>20631430 >>20631488 Was that you in wwoym? Kek >>20631474 And I’d take one person that talks about books and can keep politics out of their mouth than every /pol/cel

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:48:53 2022 No.20631509 File: 763 KB, 600x400, Hammond, R. A., & Axelrod, R. (2006b). The evolution of ethnocentrism. Journal of Conflict Resolution, 50, 926-936.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20630050

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:49:43 2022 No.20631512 Got a mini raid going in this thread I see

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:51:40 2022 No.20631518 >>20631500 >I'm making fun of them. Pardon me, I just see 'what's wring with this board' and instantly assume tranny. First time it's failed. Carry on sir. >>20631507 >Tranny outs itself as a multi-thread shitter Shocking.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:52:48 2022 No.20631521 >>20631512 I know, frickin transf0lx amirite?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:53:11 2022 No.20631522 File: 106 KB, 680x771, 1425225224270.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20629287 ancient

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:54:07 2022 No.20631525 >>20631507 >And I’d take one person that talks about books and can keep politics out of their mouth than every /pol/cel Who wouldn't take one sensible person posting on topic over every /pol/cel? Your statement doesn't even make sense, retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:55:32 2022 No.20631527 >>20631278 >they’re all painfully reactionary I fucking wish.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:55:53 2022 No.20631528

>>20628347
>Why is /lit/ so hateful?
I don't know what you mean. It seems like a normal 4chan board to me.
>it should have a similar tone as /trv/ or /out/
Why?
>Reading books is a largely comfy experience.
And yet discussing books is often more heated, even irl.
>Is it merely the short distance between /pol/ or is it just the american posters?
Neither. You just seem too sensitive to me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:57:10 2022 No.20631532 File: 35 KB, 400x400, 1656633664596.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20631518 >insulted a multireply poster Your confusion was quite understandable, sir. Unlike that of trannies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:59:19 2022 No.20631540 >>20631525 I’m saying /pol/cels should keep their politics to /pol/ and not shit up other boards. I’m sick of hearing about politics

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 07:01:35 2022 No.20631553 >>20631540 I'm trans too btw

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 07:02:52 2022 No.20631556 >>20631540 >tried to use snark by reworking my point >fails because: retard >What I meant was /POL/ REEEEEEEEE Kek. Shut up, stupid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 07:07:51 2022 No.20631568 >>20631553 >trans >on /lit/ Shouldn't you be busy convincing politicians/libtards to advocate having sex preformers read to 5-year-olds?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 07:33:24 2022 No.20631637 >>20631527 Most proletarians are anti intellectual and only care about their own kin, in my experience. It’s probably the state of nature.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 07:37:29 2022 No.20631658
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>>20630126
When somebody disagrees with someone on 4chan, the default is never a discussion, it's always a hostile act of aggression. The ensuing confrontation never really rises above the "cope and seethe" level, where both parties have fit the other into some micro-archetype and mentally autocomplete everything the other party might say. The goal is never to learn or explain anything, it's to win and totally crush and humiliate the other

It's really just 'former gifted kids' who don't really have a lot going on looking to categorize others into easily "refuted" boxes, where they can play out a scripted encounter (in that the argument has been played out hundreds of times before and both parties know what the other will say before they say it) where the aim is to feel like your ideological fashion choice came out on top. These people are here for hours and hours of a day and don't really read, they only associate authors with a position in the metaculture and by way of associating with other metagroups (if that makes sense) that's mostly learned by osmosis online than by any actual engagement with the literary world.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 07:46:56 2022 No.20631685 I'm not hateful but I just get really frustrated sometimes and worked up and then get into ridiculous arguments with people over things I do not care about

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 07:54:07 2022 No.20631708 File: 349 KB, 1549x617, zizek.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20628347

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 08:00:18 2022 No.20631725

>>20630050
This also applies to the concept of Ethnocentrism.
Positive Ethnocentrism is the love for the ingroup, while negative Ethnocentrism is the hostility towards any outgroup. You can have only the former if you want, but sadly most focus on the latter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 08:05:04 2022 No.20631739 >>20628347 I've been disappointed by life, I'm a timid beta male who gets pushed around irl, and I've never even kissed a girl despite being thirty. I take it out on the retards on /lit/

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 08:25:17 2022 No.20631807
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>>20631474
>I like /pol/ so every board should be like /pol/!
>wdym I can just go on /pol/? No, your boards have to be filled with schizos and retards!
>you're running this board!

Kys

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 13:30:34 2022 No.20632839 I don't believe anyone has ever read a book. You can spend a lifetime analyzing one paragraph of any book so it's impossible to really read an entire book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 13:39:20 2022 No.20632865 >>20628347 stop reeading the french

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 13:43:32 2022 No.20632872 >>20632865 >"No!"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 14:51:02 2022 No.20633097 >>20628347 You've never seen an artsy or philosophical european if you think americans are the downer ones. What kind of stereotype do you even reference here.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:08:48 2022 No.20633162

>>20628347
I don't go outside of /sffg/ and its an ok experience 50% of the time there is discussion of mostly normie literature since those are ones everyone has read. The general also has a couple of reviewanons that definitely raise the thread quality. If you want to make /lit/ better all you'd have to do is ban every thread that doesn't have a book in the title. Its retarded that people can pretty much discuss anything that's been written in a book instead of books by themselves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:14:20 2022 No.20633184 >>20631807 /thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:19:54 2022 No.20633202 >>20629447 this guy gets it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:22:43 2022 No.20633214 >>20628347 it's mainly the nietzscheans

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:35:35 2022 No.20633268
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>>20631807
>gets made fun of for letting /pol/ live rent-free
>references /pol/ multiple times in a short post
>gets made fun of for not knowing how to meme
>posts a projection chud full of text
kek

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:43:32 2022 No.20633298

>>20628347
Honestly the way this board is structured makes absolutely no sense. For some reason it was decided that anything related to literature is allowed on this board which means that anyone with a few braincells can realize that this means literally fucking anything is allowed as discussion. Instead of I don't know forcing people to talk about books and their content now you have a board that is a psuedo /a/, /g/, /r9k/, /lgbt/, /adv/, /his/, /int/, /pol/, and /sci/. This is of course only because the topics of these boards are popular, theoretically you could discuss almost all of 4chan on /lit/ by adding 'Books about' to the start of your post.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:44:31 2022 No.20633304 >>20631807 Spot on meme and especially the greentext

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:48:36 2022 No.20633311 >>20628347 >Thereotically fucking die, you fucking idiot

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:53:56 2022 No.20633330

>>20633298
Yeah. Books have been written on every subject so some anons think that means all is permitted. Doesn’t work that way. I said in a different thread that 2 rules that would make this board much better are 1.no political discussion. No exceptions. And no using historical political scenes, like the French Revolution, to discuss modern day politics. 2. No “books for..” threads. They are a whistle to discuss the topic at hand with no reference to books.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 16:22:25 2022 No.20633439 >>20628847 Sir, this 4channel dot org

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 16:55:11 2022 No.20633563 >>20628347 Is that houellebecq wojak?

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 17:20:13 2022 No.20633679

>>20633304
>thinks a meme that repeats the same (tired) insults over and over is a banger
This is why the left can't meme. For example, instead of just saying "ugly" it laughably tries to cover its bases by saying "either extremely skinny or obese" (it can't even just say "skinny/fat"). It also repeats the idea of being a racist in 7 of its 13 points and feels the need to bring up Nazis more than once (most of the points are brought up more than once). Finally, it has mixed/discordant messaging: mentions GF twice but then follows with the "you're actually the homosexual" (kek, it can't even just say "fag") insult that hasn't triggered anyone since the 90s and one of the points is "you're too anti-semitic to appreciate pornography" (oh no! kek).

Basically, when you put out a meme like that people just laugh at you. The fact it's the same shit we've heard multiple times and isn't presented in a novel way shows you're unable to be creative. The fact you can't understand "brevity is the soul of wit" makes you seem stupid and unnecessary verbosity doesn't make up for a lack of satirical edge. The fact it repeats itself over and over makes it seem like you're seething. It's sad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 17:22:15 2022 No.20633688 >>20628369 Love itself is the embodiement of tribalistic behaviour you pseud.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 17:25:50 2022 No.20633701 >>20633679 Who the fuck cares about the merits of specific meme? Your brains been rotted by politics. The point is that type of person has killed lit. Go worry about making memes somewhere away from a literature board

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 17:31:16 2022 No.20633725

>>20633701
>REEEEEEE
I was specifically replying to praise of a (bad) meme, faggot. The point is someone who appreciates that type of low-level nonsense is a retard and crying about /pol/ constantly is more annoying than political posts you're triggered by but aren't clever enough to shut down. I mean, look at you. You faggots made an entire thread to cry about the state of the board and repeatedly brought up /pol/ over and over as if the problem is them and not the fact you just belong on Reddit. Cope faggot.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 17:42:09 2022 No.20633777

>>20633725
I see you are meme connoisseur who takes pride in them. Just because someone hates poltards, doesn’t mean they are a leftist. There is a whole board dedicated to politics. No one should be coming to a literature board to discuss politics when such a board exists. To complain about the people complaining about off topic political discussion just shows you are clueless. Go analyze and engage in meme warfare elsewhere

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 18:02:59 2022 No.20633866 >>20631658 one of the most insightful shit I've read on this board. Chapeau

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 18:14:31 2022 No.20633919

>>20633777
>I see you are meme connoisseur
Checked.
>Just because someone hates poltards, doesn’t mean they are a leftist
Just because someone isn't a libtard doesn't mean they're from /pol/, retard. That's the point. Now go look up "comma splice," captain highbrow.
>No one should be coming to a literature board to discuss politics when such a board exists.
Current events bleed into literature discussions. It's part of the ecosystem and you don't have to take part in it. Go cry to a jannie, faggot. Boo fucking hoo.
>To complain about the people complaining
Is perfectly fair because it isn't as simple as your autistic assertions of what constitutes relevant discussion. The majority of crying takes place from libtards who can't ignore posts or simply create ones to which like-minded retards are attracted. We get enough nonsense from the MSM and you faggots are crying about the fact it doesn't bleed in enough to shield you from "problematic" ideas. This isn't your safe space. Cope.
>Go analyze and engage in meme warfare elsewhere
Speak for yourself, bitch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 18:19:29 2022 No.20633940 >>20631278 Your socialist utopia will never happen

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 18:22:11 2022 No.20633953 >>20631807 3/13

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 18:24:04 2022 No.20633958 >>20631658 I’ve always thought a lot of this ideological and cultural compartmentalizations stem from everyone defining themselves by some group or label, because of the disappearance of the individual from society

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 18:40:27 2022 No.20634001 >>20633946 >phone retard Figures.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 18:42:10 2022 No.20634008 >>20628347 It's the Americans >t. American

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 18:47:46 2022 No.20634038 >>20633958 Overthinking it. On here it's just trannies who can't pass spilling over from discord. They're out in droves this summer but don't worry--they've reached their high-water mark and will soon be receding as much as their hairlines.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 19:25:33 2022 No.20634170 >>20628347 It's the Americans.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 19:35:58 2022 No.20634215

>>20631425
>INCAPABLE of telling anyone why "trannies" are bad
From a right-wing perspective: they make their sexual identity the center of their personality and selfishly disregard traditional norms and values in a way that normalizes sexual hedonism and presents breakdowns in the social fabric. They act with no thought toward the long-term effects of their selfish assertions and move toward a utopian mirage while overtly condemning the traditional institutions that afforded us the stability to reach the level of progress we have (and they take this on with the full gusto of a personal vendetta). What's more, promoting their issues via vilifying a large swath of the electorate has alienated and publically minimized the voices of conservative moderates (i.e. they'd rather act like they're fighting a colossus of extremism when, in reality, actual conservative values and motivations are ignored to the detriment of democratic dialogue).

From a left-wing perspective: they allow themselves to be figureheads in a coalition comprised of useful idiots for a well-established elite that built a crude identitarian ideology to keep themselves in power. However, actual suffering is entirely theoretical to said elite, which usurps any valid struggle by way of entirely symbolic offerings and to the neglect of directly addressing actual issues centered around universal class struggle (which is replaced with vaguely constructed good intentions and ideological subroutines (e.g. "intersectionality") in order to shield itself from specific criticism).

From a libtard perspective: the attempt to not only normalize but also force their absurdities through legally mandated language was a bridge too far. Doing this at a time when fascistic inclinations are undoubtedly on the rise (all while projecting its own totalitarian tendencies in the guise of rightwing bogeymen) was short-sighted and harmful when it comes to maintaining the faith of a significant section of a (democratic) electorate. In so doing, they've normalized attacks on the of organs democratic order (e.g. "SCOTUS is extremist") while undermining their usual recourse in justifying their mandate (e.g. "liberal elite" undermining itself by promoting identity over competence).

Sorry to sperg but you fucking asked.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 21:47:33 2022 No.20634741 >>20633298 it should have been Fiction & Languages desu

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 21:50:35 2022 No.20634754

>>20631658
I disagree.
I would argue that 90% of the bad posts are just /pol/ posters going
>what you wrote
and then
>die kys pol buzzword buzzword buzzword

4chan would look night and day different if the usual buzzwords were filtered into anti-pol things like 'bucket' or 'carrot'.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 21:56:41 2022 No.20634785

>>20628347
I wasn't able to get through the Elementary Particles. I find the whole thing just so grotesque especially as it concerns Bruno sexual escapades. The whole ordeal turned me away from Houellebecq I doubt if I'll ever read anything by him again.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 21:57:49 2022 No.20634788

>>20634215
I understand that there is a portion of troons which are fascists of their own ideology. But it is not neccessarily them who are doing the damage. They are just today's lolcows, as gays used to be.
The news feeds off that because alien lifestyles scare and intrigue conservatives.
For the most part though, troons do the exact same thing most other 4chan posters do. By twitter screencaps you can see that they have no real power in the world. The most they do is complain about movies and games which are irrelevant and dying mediums now anyway.
If you look around and see troons, perhaps you are the one that is living closer than you think to troon lifestyles.
Troons are still completely powerless compared to what an attractive white woman can do if she calls into the police.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 22:13:40 2022 No.20634844 >>20629287 Yeah, like over a decade ago. I absolutely hate what's become of 4chan. Other boards are way worse

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 22:16:11 2022 No.20634855 >>20634754 Those are pure shitposts. The debatelords and “refute it” anons are a different type of annoying

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 22:23:20 2022 No.20634877 >>20630050 If you cannot harm something for the sake of love then do you really love that thing or person you claim to love? Would you not kill a man that is attacking the love of your life?

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 22:45:48 2022 No.20634956

>>20630050
I was the OP and I hate Nazis for being beautifully retarded for the sake of being beautifully retarded. All I said was that I cared about things strongly. I guess if that makes one a Nazi in your eyes then I’d loathe to make the acquaintance of an insipid, putrid insect like you

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 22:46:49 2022 No.20634963 >>20630181 fuck you

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 00:03:53 2022 No.20635230 >>20633679 Dude you're missing the point, we don't give a fuck about your beliefs. We just want you to stay on your board.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 00:12:42 2022 No.20635248 >>20635230 This x1000. I’m sure someone will reply that literature and politics are inseparable despite that not being true. Par the course.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 00:28:53 2022 No.20635290

>>20635230
>Dude you're missing the point, we don't give a fuck about your beliefs
Dude shut the fuck up; I don't give a shit about you. The point is you're a bunch of crying faggots. /pol/ is a shitshow but you fucking pussies can't defend yourselves so you make a little thread for a group therapy session to lament about how much more sensible you are compared to those mean ol'poltards. You hate getting continuously BTFO'd by people your midwit brain convinced you you're better than--so you cry about the ecosystem instead of producing the type of content you want to see or, god forbid, just ignoring certain posts. Keep crying faggot; at least it's better than the snark you try to pass off as intelligence.

Imagine crying for more moderation on 4chan. Fuck you're pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 00:31:12 2022 No.20635296 >>20635230 You're right, but the /pol/tards will never admit it.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 00:32:19 2022 No.20635301

>>20634788
>scare and intrigue conservatives
Disgust. I gave you thoughtful reasons why conservatives (as well as leftoids and libtards) dislike tranny bullshit.
>perhaps you are the one that is living closer than you think to troon lifestyles.
Perhaps you're just a retard. You couldn't entertain my post so maybe that's the problem and not the /pol/tards you seem to be so afraid of.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 00:36:04 2022 No.20635316

>>20635290
It’s more pathetic to invade a board and take it over when you have your own board. There wouldn’t be bitching if /pol/ stays where they are supposed to. I would say the same thing to /leftypol/ if they took over /lit/ so no need for the persecution complex. And miss me with the whole “do better” rant. Those anons aren’t the problem

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 00:36:51 2022 No.20635321 >>20635290 stop shitting up other boards, kill yourself

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 00:50:05 2022 No.20635381

>>20635290
You really are the embodiment of why no board on this site likes /pol/. We don't find /pol/ to be some scary boogy man who is taking over all of 4chan. We just find you guys to be faggots who flood boards with shitty threads.

>You hate getting continuously BTFO'd by people your midwit brain convinced you you're better than
We don't think we're intellectuals, we just like books and nobody is getting BTFO'd by tranny/nigger thread nr 62739.

>Keep crying faggot; at least it's better than the snark you try to pass off as intelligence
We just like books fag, you're getting pissed over people having hobbies.

Stop taking the Internet so serious, you're on a literature board, on a website made for autistic weebs and you're trying to act like some tough guy because you make threads about le tranny and goy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 00:54:09 2022 No.20635395 >>20631807 basad

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 00:59:05 2022 No.20635406

>>20635316
>It’s more pathetic to invade a board and take it over when you have your own board
Like I said, retard: it's not just /pol/. It's an ecosystem you fragile little faggots can't handle so you cry for moderation. Create the content you want to see or just shut the fuck up and lurk. Better yet, migrate somewhere with updoots.
>>20635321
No u.
>>20635381
I'm not from /pol/, faggot. I'm making fun of the fact you retards cry about /pol/ and project it constantly. It truly is rent-free for the likes of you and it's completely pathetic.
>We just like books
Then post about them and ignore anyone your headcanon tells you is a poltard! It's not difficult. Again: pathetic.
>Stop taking the Internet so serious
Coming from a retard lamenting about shitposts and projecting the idea that everyone who calls him a pathetic faggot is from /pol/? Fuck off.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 00:59:07 2022 No.20635407

>>20628347
>Book reader
>"Let read book! HURR DURR HURR DURR" *Flpb* *shaaaaAAAART*

>Refined normie
>"Having not burdened my mind with inane and fantastical prattlings, I am able to utilize all of my brain cells towards the accumulation and retention of useful information in vita."

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:08:53 2022 No.20635447

>>20635406
>I'm not from /pol/, faggot.
We all belive you buddy

>Then post about them and ignore anyone your headcanon tells you is a poltard!
are you familiar with how 4chan works? yeah we post about books but half the catalogue is still cluttered with /pol/tards, it means less actual quality threads. If /pol/ was flooded by for example /mlp/ they'd be just as annoyed.

>Coming from a retard lamenting about shitposts and projecting the idea that everyone who calls him a pathetic faggot is from /pol/? Fuck off.
No I belive you're from pol because you talk and act like you're from /pol/ in other words, a insufferable cunt.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:09:31 2022 No.20635450

>>20635406
>just ignore the roaches in your room
You ignoring the fact that /pol/ invades every thread even if is tangentially related to their cause in the slightest way. They find each other in every thread before moving on to the next one. A lot of posters who read have left because they don’t want to deal with the bullshit. You could, I don’t know, go to the board that is made specifically for politics. That would make sense, wouldn’t it? This is a board for a hobby. Anons come here to discuss that hobby. Why don’t you take your own advice then and ignore all the libtard shit in the media? Or are you just hypocritical and want double standards?

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:14:45 2022 No.20635478

>>20635450
Where are all these /pol/ politics posters though? The catalog is filled with mostly internet meme threads that have nothing to do with politics, like most places on the internet. You identified this guy as one based on the fact that he thinks you're retarded. Is that example representative of who you call "/pol/"? Anyone that thinks you're a retard?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:23:56 2022 No.20635511 >>20628347 >Why is /lit/ so hateful? state mandataroy 10/10 gfs and /lit/ will be a harmonius place

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:31:26 2022 No.20635549

>>20635447
>We all belive you buddy
Like I said: you're a pussy and poltards live rent-free in your head.
>half the catalogue is still cluttered with /pol/tards
It isn't.
>No I belive you're from pol because you talk and act like you're from /pol/
"POL! /pol/! POL!" God, just shut the fuck up. Thanks for proving my point.
>>20635450
>You ignoring the fact that /pol/ invades every thread even if is tangentially related to their cause
They don't. You're just a libtard crying because a lightly moderated website doesn't reflect the homogenized values you want to project absolutely everywhere. You probably consume too much media and see racist boogeymen everywhere. Stop being such a pussy.
>You could, I don’t know, go to the board that is made specifically for politics.
See. Literally the only retort you faggots come up with (repeatedly over and over) is projecting the idea someone who calls them a retard is from /pol/. God, you're so pathetic. Just go to Reddit. Seriously.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:32:47 2022 No.20635552 >>20635478 You’re retarded or oblivious

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:38:58 2022 No.20635584

>>20635552
Or you're besieged by confirmation bias combined with a myopic understanding of ideology. You project the idea of /pol/ onto every single shitposter/retard/person who expresses an opinion you don't agree with and cry about it because you watch too much MSM.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:40:23 2022 No.20635590 >>20635552 He's a shitposter

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:40:31 2022 No.20635592 >>20633679 >Everyone who hates politics spam is a leftist /his/ was ruined by /leftypol/ spam. You and your leftist cousins are two sides of the same coin.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:43:06 2022 No.20635607 >>20635552 Ok but can you link or hint at a reference to an example so I understand what you're talking about?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:43:29 2022 No.20635609 >>20635549 As I said, insufferable cunt behaviour is a dead give away.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:44:16 2022 No.20635612 >>20635592 >copies my take and says I'm from /pol/ again Yeah, you're stupid.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:45:49 2022 No.20635619 >>20635609 As I said: you can't come up with something new. Earn your condescension before you try to flex it. Otherwise, you just come off like a snarky little pussy--which is what you are.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:47:36 2022 No.20635628

>>20635584
I’m not even left wing and don’t watch news so take another swing. If you don’t see topics that are related to the /pol/cel, you’re just a lost cause. Simple as. Those topics are shit lit muh traditionalism, muh niggers, muh joos, muh faggots, muh trannies, muh nazis, muh fascists, muh anti-Marx, muh liberals, muh religion, muh I hate women, muh it used to be so much better in the 1300’s, muh technology, muh based right wing figure, etc. There are way too many posts and threads on those topics. The only thing discussed here should be books or authors

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:48:02 2022 No.20635629 >>20635619 Alright tough guy, if that's what makes your dick hard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:49:03 2022 No.20635632 >>20635607 See>>20635628

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:51:17 2022 No.20635641

>>20635628
>I’m not even left-wing
Followed by:
>muh traditionalism, muh niggers, muh joos, muh faggots, muh trannies, muh nazis, muh fascists, muh anti-Marx, muh liberals, muh religion, muh I hate women, muh it used to be so much better in the 1300’s, muh technology, muh based right wing figure
Stop crying and just make your own fucking threads or migrate. Simple as.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:53:42 2022 No.20635651 Kek at the tough guy act over an anonymous literature message board.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:53:45 2022 No.20635652 >>20635632 Confirmation bias and condescendingly minimizing topics others find interest in due to a narcissistic false sense of superiority. Doesn't mean they're from /pol/ and you can simply ignore those threads and post elsewhere. Simple as.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:54:00 2022 No.20635654 >>20635632 Things you don't like are a /pol/ invasion. Got it. The most active thread about politics I saw the last few days was an OP honestly asking for a primer on communism and a majority of posters trying to sell it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:55:17 2022 No.20635659 >>20635641 >>20635652 They shouldn’t even be discussed here. It’s a board about books. Simple as

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:56:48 2022 No.20635664

>>20635629
Not by any means novel but at least you came up with something different than crying about /pol/ yet again.
>>20635651
Pointing out someone sounds like a pussy giving the reasons why isn't a "tough guy act." If you think that's tough you really are a fuckin' pussy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:59:26 2022 No.20635672 >>20635664 Listen up bitch boy. You’re a pussy, a faggot and you don’t read..and you’re a nigger

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 02:01:39 2022 No.20635678 File: 145 KB, 640x1146, 1653936530075.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20635672 b-based?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 02:12:52 2022 No.20635704 >>20635290 >continuosly BTFO'd >the BTFO in question is just an endless amount of kys shitposts wow, real original, go back

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 02:14:46 2022 No.20635714

>>20635659
>traditionalism
Is pertinent to literary criticism.
>muh niggers, muh joos
I just ignore those posts and stop responding if someone I'm posting with brings that shit up.
>muh faggots
There are threads about "gay literature" and "transgender theory" I don't like but I usually just ignore them.
>muh nazis
Very rare to see a thread about Nazis, anon. They get nuked by mods before they even reach 5 posts.
>muh fascists
See Nazis above.
>muh anti-Marx
Why not "muh Marx?" I see more commie threads than I do anti-communist threads. Either way, it's still related to philosophy so just ignore it if it isn't something you're personally interested in.
>muh liberals
They control the publishing industry and market based on those values. Maybe if the industry wasn't so ideologically homogenous it wouldn't be brought up as much.
>muh religion
Those threads get nuked and the people who make them get an instant ban. Besides, religion is very pertinent to literary criticism (e.g. Northrop Frye).
>muh I hate women
Again, if it's directed toward someone like Virginia Woolf just call the person a faggot and provide a better take (you can even do it for someone like Sally Rooney if you like her work). If it's about authors being foisted by the publishing industry it's to be expected. Cry about it.
>muh it used to be so much better in the 1300’s
You're just repeating yourself now (i.e. traditionalism). You kind of did that with nazis/fascists (and soon with "right wing figure) but I get it--when you're a seething narcissist lamenting the fact things aren't up to your oh-so-highest of personal standards, it's to be expected. Besides, I hardly ever see any posts like that on here (except for the Uncle Ted shit which, say it with me now, you can just ignore).
>muh technology
Literally repeating yourself again. See above.
>muh based right-wing figure
Some people really like Evola. I haven't read much by him so I can't comment. As far as people like Mishima are concerned--he's a fascinating person and a great writer. Most people are filtered by the fact he started a cult and you can laugh at that while discussing his novels. (Also, I'm not sure if Guenon is considered right-wing but I can tell you he's actually very well known and respected in Muslim countries).

Basically, all of those things can be relevant and there's an actual diversity when it comes to how you can discuss them and the types of people who are interested in them. Stop being such a narcissistic retard who expects an online anonymous message board to be a mirror of something like Reddit. Appreciate the diversity for what it is and contribute your slice. If you don't like it--stop fucking crying and make a thread. Simple as.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 02:15:52 2022 No.20635721 >>20635704 At least 4 posts have told me to kys and I haven't said it once (unless you count "no u"). Cope.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 02:38:09 2022 No.20635811 >>20635714 Do you want those topics discussed here and shoehorned in everywhere instead of books? You like the quality of the board now, don’t you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 02:42:19 2022 No.20635832 >>20635714 Bad faith arguing. You are part of the problem

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 02:44:09 2022 No.20635838 >>20628858 there's a ton of misogyny and racism

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 02:54:57 2022 No.20635867 >>20630729 >There should be a philosophy board I agree with this cuck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 02:58:06 2022 No.20635873 File: 20 KB, 400x400, 1657072829578.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20635838 >why are all these people who read outside of the liberal world order approved canon so hostile towards neo-liberal ideas? sweaty moment

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 02:58:35 2022 No.20635877

>>20635811
I don't feel the need to assert myself over what other people find interesting and condescend that the board should be remade in my image. 4chan is a reactionary platform with a mixed bag of people offering opinions and ideas you don't see in other media. There's a relative diversity of thought compared to most other places and if you don't like the ecosystem the boils up from it you can just fuck off to a place that ghosts comments by algorithm or hides them away if enough people react negatively to them. Also, quite a few people ITT responded with little more than insults and blank assertions that I'm wrong (without arguments) so it's likely your ilk are a big part of the problem. I know conversations involving religion are one of your triggers, but maybe you should check out that story in the Bible where Jesus talks about not throwing rocks at a thot.
>>20635832
>responding to each point that was brought up and giving a retort is "bad faith"
>calling an argument "bad faith" because it rejects the premise (but gives the reasons why) isn't bad faith
>"You are part of the problem"
No u.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 02:59:59 2022 No.20635882

>>20628347
Most people here are more preoccupied with identifying their sense of self worth according to their perceived intelligence, and with satisfying their own ego, than they are in contributing anything that might be considered useful to another human being.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 03:08:11 2022 No.20635900 >>20635877 Is this what they call sealioning?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 03:08:28 2022 No.20635901 >>20628347 I ruined my life and am extremely bitter, so now lashing out at others is the only thing that gives me any thrill, and since I'm extremely insecure about my intelligence, this is the place to take out my frustrations.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 03:15:28 2022 No.20635916 >>20635901 That's sad and pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 03:16:07 2022 No.20635918 >>20635916 Yeah, but it's where I'm at.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 03:23:51 2022 No.20635944 >>20635900 >accuses someone of sealioning >by sealioning There's no hope for people like you. You're too stupid to converse with people who disagree with you and too arrogant to recognize your own hypocrisies (two in a row; now go for three).

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 03:27:56 2022 No.20635954

>>20635838
Men are violent criminals. It's true, you know the implied qualifiers and don't try to fuck me over by misrepresenting what I mean.
Women are dumb. It's true given the exact same kind of benefit of the doubt you automatically give the previous statement. They have the same average IQ but not as many have outlier high IQs. In outlier high IQ pursuits you don't and shouldn't expect to find women.
You manifest these racist boogeymen based on media conditioning. The ones that really take on these roles you accuse everyone of playing even tend to shape their identity around your definitions, they're "reactionaries" you know.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 03:33:27 2022 No.20635972

>>20635944
>/lit/ on 4chan is an ecosystem of diversity. I want to discuss contemporary literature, women writers, nigger writers, etc. You have called me names so you are part of the problem
>enter one of those threads
>it’s shitflinging and name calling
>little to no books referenced
I just want to talk about books. Sorry I’m part of the problem, faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 03:45:35 2022 No.20636002 >>20635954 This implies that there are more outlier low IQs in men to balance it the average, meaning you are suggesting men are objectively dumber. I'm not saying so, it's what you are implying but not acknowledging.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 03:59:22 2022 No.20636051 >>20628441 >>20629480 that was but a excerpt from a book, are you this retarded?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 04:00:55 2022 No.20636055 >>20636051 This is /lit/, what did you expect?

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 04:01:02 2022 No.20636056

>>20635972
>mischaracterizing my argument
>flatly ignoring the actual point
>disregarding specifics
>reasserting your premise while offering nothing new
See your own post >>20635832. Even if you discuss books I highly doubt you have anything novel or interesting to say.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 04:12:18 2022 No.20636085 >>20636056 I have a thread up on a specific book that stayed on topic and developed more discussion than I thought I’d get. Why do not want /lit/ to be centered around books? Lol

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 04:20:21 2022 No.20636105

>>20636002
It's true. It's a statement like the other ones. I could have chosen to say men are dumb but that wouldn't have contrasted with the statement about women.
I also mentioned how saying women are dumb can be relevant in reality, like in the context of a high IQ pursuit. In the context of who is dumbest that's also men, the violent criminal retard monkeys.
I can go on tirades about those mindless rape-apes but not the midwit whores, they're sacred and pure.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 04:29:10 2022 No.20636123

>>20635478
I'm from /pol/. Love me Hitler and all that. Never bring it up where it's not relevant to the topic because I come to other boards to talk about other things and not argue about culture war shit for 5 seconds. Leftists must be living on a different plane of existence if they insist we're the ones bringing politics where it doesn't belong, evidenced by the fact they're derailed the whole thread.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 04:48:55 2022 No.20636166

>>20636123
I always assumed pol was mostly ironic. How much would you say is genuine versus doing it for the lulz? Then within the genuine sphere, how much of it is a devout traditionalist adherence, meaning they want to exterminate groups of people, and how much of it is considering the ideals valuable without actually wanting to act on violence? Do they make exceptions for exceptional individuals from other races? Like the Michael Jordans, the John Coltranes, and the Vladimir Horowitzs?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 05:10:58 2022 No.20636233 >>20636123 >>20636166 Come on man, I genuinely wanted to have some/pol/ indoctrination laid on me. Let me have it

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 05:15:09 2022 No.20636247

I confess that I kept making threads about Why Liberalism Failed by Patrick Deneen for 2 years. We had some pretty good threads although most were bad. But this year I haven’t been able to get a single good thread going about the topic or even related books. Every post is just low-effort and resentful

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 05:26:33 2022 No.20636280 >>20636247 >I kept making threads about Why Liberalism Failed by Patrick Deneen for 2 years Why? You knew those threads would be shitshows, don't deny it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 05:27:49 2022 No.20636285 >>20636280 because i'm obsessed with the topic and there's nowhere else to talk about it. And again there was some quality threads here and there. But this year /lit/ has just been terrible

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 05:31:45 2022 No.20636294

>>20636285
Russian invasion killed lit for some reason although it was in the downswing for some time. I don’t even see those stalwart reliable threads like top 5, hidden gem, waycr, write a story for this pic, post a…get a rec, etc. Even stack threads are dying. They used to get hundreds of replies. When the easy threads aren’t making it, the quality threads have no chance

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 05:45:18 2022 No.20636320

>>20636294
It's happening to all of 4chan
>people have been saying 4chan is kill since 2007
I know, but, really. It's bad. Almost unbearable.
Last place left that even somewhat resembles its former self is /tv/. They're somehow immune, though I suspect that's largely due to the fact that it's always been an impenetrable wall of shit.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 05:50:56 2022 No.20636338

>>20636320
It’s an interesting phenomena. It definitely downspiked around the invasion. Did anons see they can influence because of the unreliability of different media’s putting out different things? A stronger line in the sand? The culture war became more serious? It happened very quickly too.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 06:00:48 2022 No.20636358

>>20636338
Seems so. Like the dipshits on twitter people seem to think they can influence the war by posting memes and aping support for
>muh side
like they're watching a sportsball game.
Like in all areas of politics (and basically everything else, really) people are powerless. As pathetic an imitation of power it is this seems to give them a sense of power and control, and, of course, entertains them. Also, they can feel as if they are doing a moral good by supporting the (good guys). Like everything these days it's a pale imitation of a real phenomena happening digitally.
Another reason for the sharp decline is the obvious: Trump, and Q. Lost conservacuck facebook boomers and zoomers who were smart enough to realize the liberal establishment was nutty, but not smart enough tor realize the conservatives are not their salvation (nor are the yahtzees), flocked to this site because they heard we don't like libs. They mistakenly think they're in good company.
>Descartes.jpg
But even more broadly and fundamentally speaking it's entropy. Same as it ever was.
We are all kill in the end.
No.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 06:09:14 2022 No.20636377

>>20636358
I might make a thread about it tomorrow if I remember. I don’t come here as often as I used to so I’m not as plugged in and would like to hear input. My gut feeling is your right with the sports crowd analogy. Like the 12th man where the crowd feels like it can influence the game by making noise so the opposing team can’t hear the snap count type of thing

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 06:30:09 2022 No.20636429

>>20636166
It depends. A lot of the newfags likely know there is something deeply wrong with the dominant liberal world-view, but they aren't quite ready to commit to heresy genuinely and flirt with the idea via irony. Most of these would consider themselves classical liberals or libertarians economically but socially moderately left. Then you have the disaffected liberals who buy into the false dichotomy of red vs. blue who become conservacucks. These are the Trump supporters. Then you have the ones who realize the entire system is corrupt and red is nothing but token resistance to the eternal march of progress. These types often fall for the false trichotomy and end up as nazis. The second type of nazi is the edgy nazi who just knows that their idiot leftist teacher is an idiot and they want to be the opposite of that. Like the scene from South Park where the Butt-Out crew come to the school and it immediately inspires the kids to start smoking because they want to be nothing like those fags.
>I always assumed pol was mostly ironic
This is why liberalism is so poisonous, and also why it's so effective at spreading.
>we hold these truths to be self-evident
This one fucking line fucked us all. Well, not entirely, but it sure as shit didn't help.
Any disagreement must be ironic, that's just how right you are, right? Because that's totally realistic. That, collectively, you, your generation, your country, your little movement, you have ALL the answers, and any opposition must be in jest, right? The arrogance.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 06:45:50 2022 No.20636476

>>20636429
Yeah you're pretty much on the money, the truth is that are barely any real Nazis on this site and in general. They're just angry rightists and liberals. They're frustrated because they think the sacraments of liberalism have been violated by whatever bogeyman they whine about (woke people, leftists, organizations like WEF). That last one is really fucking funny especially because it literally is a liberal organization. But yes, we're in an interregnum where everyone is dissatisfied with liberalism but also so thoroughly indoctrinated into it that they can't possibly conceive of life outside of liberal legislations. Hence why they default to irony, shitposting, insults, etc. They have no capacity for self-reflection and are scared to do so. That would mean understanding the entire modern world they live in is false, and nobody wants to do that. They just want to be comfy little atomic units that encounter no issues.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 06:47:22 2022 No.20636485 >>20636358 >>20636429 >>20636476 I mean, what is the alternative you lot propose? Marxism? (I noted leftism avoided critique in your posts)

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 06:52:10 2022 No.20636499

>>20636485
Leftism is not an answer imo because it developed out of the same Enlightenment tradition of progress. It's just the same shit on a different wing. There's also the fact that leftists are unbelievably decadent nowadays and actively sustain the worst effects of modernity just so they have more reasons to whine about oppression. That's why they haven't accomplished anything outside of China for the last 40 years.

Whatever the future holds it can't be liberal. Right now the most important step is just convincing people that Liberalism is redundant and inhibits material development since its contradictions are inherent. But that's borderline impossible. Every normie is still obsessed with human rights, freedom, individual autonomy, whatever. I will say that the Chinese model of retaining market forces but mediating them with authoritarian governance is better than whatever the fuck America is doing these days.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 06:53:42 2022 No.20636505

>>20636499
>Every normie is still obsessed with human rights, freedom, individual autonomy, whatever.
At the end of the day these things are nice to have, and life with them is much more pleasant than life without them. What can be offered to make people give up on these things?

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 06:54:17 2022 No.20636506

>>20636485
No. Leftism is entropy.
I'm a Spenglerian Yarvinist Accelerationist if anything (if that makes sense), or, to simplify, a monarchist.
I want to get the death of our civilization over with ASAP so we can just get on with building a new one. I'm tired of living in a corpse listening to maggots squabble.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 06:59:07 2022 No.20636518 >>20636505 >What can be offered to make people give up on these things? The things we always offer them, material pleasures and comforts. Failing that, slavery and imprisonment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:02:31 2022 No.20636530 >>20636518 But why? Why is abandoning liberalism a good thing?

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:06:32 2022 No.20636540

>>20636530
It's a whig philosophy. It assumes that all progress is good so it destroys everything in its wake without conscience, or, more accurately, with a self satisfied smugness. Because they're on the right side of history!
The very premise that it stems from is faulty, therefore it rests on a shaky foundation. It drinks from a poisoned well.
It is entropy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:11:19 2022 No.20636551 >>20636506 This, I want the mind virus of liberalism and all of the ideas that arose out of it to be completely destroyed. It's really the only way humans will be able to live in a functioning society again.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:14:54 2022 No.20636562

>>20636505
>What can be offered to make people give up on these things?
Order.
Your rights don't mean shit without dignity, your freedom doesn't mean shit when it's an illusion, and the same goes for autonomy (it's an illusion). The problem is all of these things are bullshit. None of us actually have these things, and, if anything, we are less free than our ancestors. The king did not have his eyes in the field. His hand could only reach so far, but, the party? The cathedral? They take your very soul from you. They turn your own family into spies. The party's propaganda has infected every aspect of your being, and, like a fish in water, you ask; "what the hell is water?"
Neo, you absolute nigger, wake the fuck up and smell the roses, sunshine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:16:19 2022 No.20636565 >>20628347 trv is a shit hole

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:18:28 2022 No.20636572

>>20636476
>>20636429
Maybe this is the real reason why everything is so poisoned by irony and irreverence today. Nobody is happy with the state of the world even though we do have relative material stability in the West, but they're too cowardly to voice their concerns or dig deeper into the paradoxes of the system. So they approach life with insincerity and deflect adversity with humor. Everything is a just a meme.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:18:43 2022 No.20636575 >>20636540 >blames society's problems on old timey British protestants You've been Moldberged.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:20:36 2022 No.20636578 I wish we had liberalism. But alas it's welfare state communitarianism forever more.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:20:47 2022 No.20636580 >>20636575 You've completely and utterly missed the point if you think that's what I said.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:22:55 2022 No.20636585 >>20636580 >liberalism is a whig philosophy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:24:54 2022 No.20636589 _Soyjaks, put down your Moldberg, pick up your Carlsbad https://carlsbad1819.wordpress.com/2019/10/16/what-was-whig-history/ https://carlsbad1819.wordpress.com/2021/10/03/why-post-liberalism-failed/

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:25:34 2022 No.20636592

>>20636585
Yes, in the sense that it assumes that all progress is good.
>Whig history (or Whig historiography) is an approach to historiography that presents history as a journey from an oppressive and benighted past to a "glorious present"
Does that mean that I am blaming all of our current problems on British protestants? No, I'm saying they're making the same mistake, and were likely influenced (at least in part), to make said same mistake by the whigs.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:28:14 2022 No.20636604

It's just 4chan. The site is a shit hole that was over run by third worlders on cheap android phones last decade. Janitors never did anything to solve the mountains of shit posts that they produce because gook moot was desperately trying to monetize 4chan.

There's almost no incentive to effort post anymore because 90% of replies you get are aggressive low IQ strawman by third world schizos who treat 4chan like a flame war and as their personal thought dumpster. They will argue points just for the sake of winning arguments rather than because they have knowledge or care about the topic. The whole internet is becoming like this.

2chan got it right when they banned non Japanese IPs from posting. This site would improve over night if you banned third worlders.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 08:06:36 2022 No.20636686 >>20636320 /tv/ is nothing but capeshit, it's probably one of the worst examples. Although people can hardly remember it before 2009

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 08:07:07 2022 No.20636688 >>20628347 hmm

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 08:08:46 2022 No.20636695 >>20636604 third worlders? I don't see it. Most of the /pol/ posters who cannot banter at all before resorting to the kys troon button are American.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 08:10:16 2022 No.20636700 >>20628401 >I cant stop eating food because I'm too busy with my hobbies and posting on 4chan >unemployed btw stop making excuses

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 08:12:03 2022 No.20636703

>>20636592
>Whig history (or Whig historiography) is an approach to historiography that presents history as a journey from an oppressive and benighted past to a "glorious present"
Yes because "whig historiography" was written when the Whigs were in power! That doesn't mean old timey British protestants thought all change was good. That's so fucking retarded holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 08:12:20 2022 No.20636704 /out/ is just as hostile if not more than the average 4chan board

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 08:14:20 2022 No.20636709 >>20628347 I'm glad this gay little board is dying. "Old /lit/" is just a bunch of literal faggot tripfags

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 08:16:39 2022 No.20636712

>>20636429
You are aware of the common perception of Nazis shared by the vast majority of the world, regardless of liberalism, are you not? Or perhaps are you in echo chamber of some sort and didn't realize? If someone told me they admired Vlad the Impaler I'd assume they were kidding unless they explained otherwise. You might not be aware that Hitler has a similar reputation among most people. To ignore such a common presupposition when someone asks a question is what is arrogant, not the idea that Nazi propaganda might be used ironically just to fuck with people. In fact, I think it's a pretty charitable position compared to those would sooner lock you up or resort to violence against you for holding the beliefs you do. Not to mention how it's the easiest way to get a humorless leftist to flip out and lose their shit, making it a natural go to choice for ironically trolling. Yet you suppose such a thought missy be the consequence of liberal propaganda? I am far from liberal and detest their propaganda unequivocally. I asked if you could explain some of the nature of your beliefs and instead responded by assuming my perception must be leftist brainwashing. Why not just explain in a way that could help clear up my misunderstanding rather than make condescending assumptions? I genuinely want to learn something and instead you complain about stuff that has nothing to do with me instead. Would you kindly state some of the tenants of your belief system? Whether you differ from the historical view of Nazis in any way? Are there certain distinctions to modern Nazis? Do you believe in violence, and if so to what extent? Thanks for your time, I look forward to your response.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 08:16:52 2022 No.20636714 File: 725 KB, 498x498, pepe-toast.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20636709 Fuck oldfags. Here's to our glorious present.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 08:34:22 2022 No.20636761

>>20636712
>Thanks for your time, I look forward to your response.
Not him, but as a chud I'll respond because I'm bored.
>perhaps are you in echo chamber of some sort and didn't realize?
there are no chud echo chambers, every chudspace is full of leftists, feds and demoralization shills.
>Would you kindly state some of the tenants of your belief system?
It's tenets not tenants.
Anyway I think this sums it up quite well:
"All that is best in the people should be allovved ceaselessly to develop".
In other words, I believe the government should enact policies that are eugenic not dysgenic. That's all.
For example, limiting the birth of the stupid, increasing the birth of the intelligent. Abolishing welfare and enforcing a 100% inheritance tax. Free markets. Abolishing public schools. Abolishing anti-child labor laws. Removing all legal protections for the religious. Scrapping laws when they protect the weak (i.e. the illegality of drugs, etc.) and so on and so forth.
>Do you believe in violence, and if so to what extent?
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 08:55:45 2022 No.20636826 >>20636761 I did actually mean "what little people pay rent to live in the apartment complex of your belief system," but that's okay, I understand it's an honest mistake. Thanks for elaborating.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 09:05:35 2022 No.20636855 >>20636695 >Most of the /pol/ posters who cannot banter at all before resorting to the kys troon button are American. Yes, he said third-worlders

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 09:08:33 2022 No.20636862 >>20636826 Sorry friend, I misread you. The answer is no one pays, they reside there rent-free.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 09:16:08 2022 No.20636880 Just come to /sffg/ if you want comfy threads, anything outside there is just political & philosophical garbage that attracts angry pseuds

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 09:19:37 2022 No.20636889

>>20636712
Irritatingly passive aggressive post, and half of your questions were already explained. You sound like a leftist female journalist from New York.
>I think it's a pretty charitable position compared to those who would sooner lock you up
Oh, thank you, your highness. How gracious of you to converse with us lowly deplorable peasants instead of yelling off with their heads. How noble of you. I lick your ass for your kindness.
This shit right here is what makes me think you're a lib/leftie. You assume the position of the authority/the dominant culture. You're also clearly a woman.
Then you passive aggressively say you were merely curious. Yeah, so does every other retarded shitlib. If you aren't one, you certainly sound like one.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 09:23:23 2022 No.20636900

>>20635301
He basically just projected a right wing strawman onto you (he seems to be under the assumption that everyone who dislikes transsexuals must be right wing, despite you giving coherent arguments from multiple ideological perspectives) and then proceeded forward with a verbose spiel about how transsexuals are powerless (despite the fact that you explicitly stated that transsexuals themselves are wielded as tool by those in power). What a retard, lol.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 09:33:45 2022 No.20636929

>>20630050
>muh love and hate
are you fucking three years old?
those concepts don't begin to adequately describe the world we live in. Stop listening to the media.
The fact they changed it from 'hatred' to the monosyllable 'hate' tells you everything you need to know. It's a weaponized meme designed to destroy anything that opposes the status quo.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 09:49:36 2022 No.20636983

>>20636889
Okay, so you don't even know why you believe what you do. That's fine, you could just say that. Apparently you take things way too seriously and read a lot into what isn't there. What kind of person gets that triggered over something so inane? You're just as bad as a trannie on Tumblr. You're clearly on edge and have bigger issues you're dealing with. I suggest either chilling the fuck out or calming the fuck down. Either one. Hey, how's this for something a NY female journalist would say? You sound like you love to choke on nigger dick but you're afraid of what all your nazi buddies might think so you get mad on the internet. And you're landlord is probably a Jew, plus you're deeply in debt to all his Jew buddy's, but you have to be a good goy and pay up otherwise you'd be homeless. It all makes sense now. You have my sympathy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 09:53:12 2022 No.20636999 >>20636983 You just keep proving my point, lady.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 09:54:35 2022 No.20637003

>>20630050
If said outgroups intend to ruin and degrade (destroy) said ingroup, or said ingroup is defined by a quality that implies a lack of threat from any outgroup, then yes actually one can only protect said ingroup through abrasive measures towards outgroup. A mother bear who is protecting her cubs will go out of its way to fuck you up if even your posturing suggests a threat. And a crime free utopia cannot exist without the elimination of criminals, by definition. So if a true idealist yearns for a crime free utopia (people like you have no yearning for anything, and are just wastes of human life, usually entangled in the manipulation of said idealists, who strive for their visions) it's obvious what he will do. And claiming something is impossible just because it has yet to be achieved is a defeatist mindset, and is factually false when you look at all great inventions and innovations up until now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 09:59:22 2022 No.20637015 >>20636999 Nah, you got BTFOd

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 10:08:11 2022 No.20637032

>>20637015
Yep, definitely a woman if you think that was anything other than embarrassing. I actually feel a little pity for you because you clearly tried really hard. Next time if you want to ask someone about their beliefs don't sound like a leftist undercover journalist who "totally innocently" is just asking questions then gets offended when liberalism is insulted, and don't ask questions that were already answered. Then try not being so fucking passive aggressive and don't act like you're the bloody queen. Essentially; stop being such a vagina with penis envy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 11:05:10 2022 No.20637168 >>20636900 Have sex /pol/cel.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 11:07:59 2022 No.20637178 >>20636695 I bet you are a third worlder

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 11:22:07 2022 No.20637205 >>20637032 Exactly what I would expect someone completely BTFOd to say.

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