Is literature a waste of time?(serious meta question)

[Anonymous No.20452520]

The more I read philosophy the more pathetic literature looks to me. It's seems like the rap of their day, emotional drivel meant for the lowest common denominator. Not only that, they seem to "sample" and "appreciate" a lot of ideas without mentioning where they took them from but have no problem getting the praise and money for them. What a novelist could say in 500 pages a philosophers could in one page and it would be better. Poets, esseists and other writers who are not philosophers are the same.

[Anonymous No.20452528]

>>20452520
it's true some people are unsuited to art

[Anonymous No.20452530]

Philosophy is also a waste of time compared to spirituality. Just skip right to ancient spiritual texts and commentaries, only thing that matters. Science as a secondary as well if you're materially minded I guess.

[Anonymous No.20452536]

>>20452528
>art
Or it's just that some people are unsuited to be humans. If you bothered to study aesthetics you will realize how retarded you're.

[Anonymous No.20452545]

>>20452530
>spiritual
Where is the spirit located?
>science is secondary
Don't worry, the only thing you have in common with science is being an experiment.

[Anonymous No.20452548]

You sound like an overweight pretentious fuck haha

[Anonymous No.20452562]

Philosophy is mostly not about how to be wise etc
Just autistic word games between elitists like Wittgenstein
It has no use for normal people

[Anonymous No.20452563]

>>20452545
>Where is the spirit located?
The question doesn't apply, its non-physical.
>Don't worry, the only thing you have in common with science is being an experiment.
*tips fedora*

[Anonymous No.20452572]

>>20452545
>Where is the spirit located?
here

[Anonymous No.20452586]

>>20452562
What's wiser than finding out the truth, for everything else is just an assumption.
>>20452563
>its non-physical
Where is the non-physical realm located?

[Anonymous No.20452606]

>>20452586
>Where is the non-physical realm located?
I see you have no metaphysical ability, enjoy the philosophy bro

[Anonymous No.20452609]

>>20452520
Which philosophers did you read? Don't name just one.

[Anonymous No.20452614]

>>20452609
All of them.

[Anonymous No.20452625]

>>20452606
I do enjoy it, unlike you who has no idea behind the history of the words he uses and how they are applied today.

[Anonymous No.20452641]

>>20452572
Forgot to mention I'm pointing at my cock

[Anonymous No.20452643]

>>20452614
What are you?

[Anonymous No.20452648]

>>20452643
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.20452778]

>The more I read philosophy the more pathetic literature looks to me.
Keep reading philosophy.

[Anonymous No.20452830]

>>20452520
There are a lot of things that people won’t understand or accept in the form of statements, but will accept in the form of a story.
Even something like “don’t stick your dick in crazy” would be a harder sell to a horny teen with formal logic than a story about the worst-case scenario.

[Anonymous No.20452935]

>>20452530
christcuck cope

[Anonymous No.20453397]

[Anonymous No.20454726]

>>20452520
You just can't into beauty

[Anonymous No.20454927]

>>20454726
If you are not into philosophy you don't even know what beauty is, stop appropriating words. You're just a storyteller.

[Anonymous No.20454946]

>>20452530
Based. The pipeline for myself went
Politics, psychology, philosophy, spirituality.
Everything is dependent, ultimately, on the non material. The quicker you arrive at this conclusion the better, but for some it does take time.

[Anonymous No.20454955]

>>20452545
>please use physical proof and spatial determination when talking about the strictly immaterial.

Please stop.

[Anonymous No.20454970]

>>20454955
>bro, do you know about that thing?
>what do you mean I have to prove that it exists? Like just use your special powers to see it!

[Anonymous No.20454993]

>>20454970
"Prove" based on what metric? I assume when you say proof, you're going to demand some puerile sensible data to support your materialist delusions?

[Anonymous No.20455020]

>>20454993
It seems like you're so above us physical mortal beings that you can just make passive aggressive posts with zero proof about anything and just answer questions with questions. That sounds more animalistic than non-physical.

[Anonymous No.20455026]

>>20452643
Not OP nor have I read stuff and I wish to play along . Here is my background.I've been nothing but a consumer of mass media, especially the kind of stuff that supposedly touches on philosophical themes like metal gear solid, Kubrick movies n shiett.
>What are u
Just a bunch of material stuff arranged in a particular configuration that has given rise to the urge of "wanting to know why and how existence exists".

[Anonymous No.20455056]

chill out sperg

[Anonymous No.20455144]

>>20454927
>not doing both
cringe pseud, Don Quixote draws on previous philosophers and poets and becomes more life affirming than any philosophy you will read.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20455160]

as a means of truth and meaning it goes

Religion>philosophy>art

and If we consider the height of aesthetic pleasures, the ranking for which produces the most aesthetic bliss goes

religion>philosophy>art

There is more beauty in the systematic philosopher’s creation than in any novel you can point to. However these things are not necessarily divided, you can have religious-philosophical-poetic works which attempt all of the above.

[Anonymous No.20455427]

>>20455160
What can art do that philosophy can't?

[Anonymous No.20455447]

>>20455020
You didn't answer my last question. It's quite simple. What would you consider proof of the spiritual or non material

[Anonymous No.20455456]

>>20452536
that's not how we use you're

stop it immediately.

[Anonymous No.20455469]

>>20455026
>a bunch of material stuff
The concept of the flesh computer, or extreme physicalism is seriously questioned even by the greatest neuro psychologists. Consciousness itself is inexplicable, even by evolutionary standards, and a serious inquiry into the entire affair will rarely lead one to the conclusion you stated.

[Anonymous No.20455496]

>>20454993
Nah, just say how do you know that it exists

[Anonymous No.20455508]

pseud

[Anonymous No.20455546]

Literature (particular, singular, contextual).

Philosophy (made up ”universal” shit).

The former is truthful, the latter lies

[Anonymous No.20455568]

>>20455469
>The concept of the flesh computer, or extreme physicalism is seriously questioned even by the greatest neuro psychologists.
Would love to start my journey into reading by getting to know more about this stuff. Post sauce for literature covering and claiming this.
>Consciousness
Is there even such a thing? If yes, what is it?

[Anonymous No.20455585]

>>20455568
I'm likely not qualified to answer your question about consciousness.
However, the fact you are asking that question demonstrates the existence of it. Maybe it's a cop out to call it self evident? Still, if you can't recognize your own consciousness it will be difficult for you to acquire any other knowledge of any sort.
Consciousness, I would argue, is the ephemeral, irreducible, unique and non quantifiable phenomena found within the human mind.
It's certainly likely that the brain is a localization of consciousness, but, there is plenty of evidence as well using NDE research which demonstrates the effect persisting beyond brain death. (Research by Sam Parnia for example). Unfortunately, because most research begins from a purely physicalist standpoint, it's difficult for academics to accept anything that challenges that orthodoxy.
I can't recommend any good literature off the top of my head, perhaps another helpful anon will do so for both of us.
There are other interesting phenomena such as shared hallucinations, and of course the entire collective unconscious.

[Anonymous No.20455641]

>>20452520
It can't possibly be as much of a waste of time as making this thread was.

[Anonymous No.20455668]

>>20452536
someone who studies aesthetics knows when and where to use the term

[Anonymous No.20455670]

>>20452520
The sooner you notice that philosophy too has a literary history the sooner you will realise how naive this sounds

[Anonymous No.20455676]

>>20455160
Haha what was religious beauty before Plato

[Anonymous No.20455722]

>>20455676
The works of Homer are more important than the works of Plato

[Anonymous No.20455727]

>>20455722
In defining beauty? Hot take

[Anonymous No.20457159]

>>20452520
>Is literature a waste of time?
Yes

[Anonymous No.20457197]

>Is literature a waste of time?

No

[Anonymous No.20457285]

>>20452520
Literally everything is a waste of time, time is wasted no matter what you do. If you decided on philosophy to be your delusion congrats I guess.

[Anonymous No.20458414]

>>20457197
How does F Gardner do it?

[Anonymous No.20459761]

>>20452520
>Is literature a waste of time?
If you see the state of /lit/, then yes.

[Anonymous No.20459774]

>>20459761
But /lit/ doesn’t read, and it’s not said ironically in 2022

[Anonymous No.20459777]

>>20452545
>where is the spirit located
In the cum
That's the will to life right there

[Anonymous No.20459783]

>>20455427
Transmit essence