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[Anonymous No.20330849]

Why do people still seriously study when it's consequences have been a disaster for humanity?

[Anonymous No.20330924]

>>20330849
do you only do things that are good for society?

[Anonymous No.20330940]

>using BCE/CE
Is there a single more surefire way for a retard to expose themselves?
>but muh some academics use that
Did I stutter?

[Anonymous No.20330944]

>>20330849
that's a really problematic euro-centric view of history

[Anonymous No.20330947]

>>20330944
this is gayer than the original image

[Anonymous No.20330968]

>>20330849
m'lady

[Anonymous No.20331346]

>It's not hard to kick this nonsense to pieces, especially since the people presenting it know next to nothing about history and have simply picked up these strange ideas from websites and popular books. The assertions collapse as soon as you hit them with hard evidence. I love to totally stump these propagators by asking them to present me with the name of one - just one - scientist burned, persecuted, or oppressed for their science in the Middle Ages. They always fail to come up with any. They usually try to crowbar Galileo back into the Middle Ages, which is amusing considering he was a contemporary of Descartes. When asked why they have failed to produce any such scientists given the Church was apparently so busily oppressing them, they often resort to claiming that the Evil Old Church did such a good job of oppression that everyone was too scared to practice science. By the time I produce a laundry list of Medieval scientists - like Albertus Magnus, Robert Grosseteste, Roger Bacon, John Peckham, Duns Scotus, Thomas Bradwardine, Walter Burley, William Heytesbury, Richard Swineshead, John Dumbleton, Richard of Wallingford, Nicholas Oresme, Jean Buridan and Nicholas of Cusa - and ask why these men were happily pursuing science in the Middle Ages without molestation from the Church, my opponents usually scratch their heads in puzzlement at what just went wrong.

[Anonymous No.20331390]

the "dark ages" did not happen and were simply made up (around 300 years of time) by pope sylvester the 2nd so he could be pope in the year 1000 AD

[Anonymous No.20331484]

>>20330849
Why does scientific advancement actually increase in the 4th and 5th century when Rome becomes Christian? Shit chart.

[Anonymous No.20331517]

>>20330849
the only thing that this chart proves is that Europe is responsible for all the science and development on the planet

[Anonymous No.20331551]

>>20331517
What’s with those demonic blood stained folk in the middle?

[Anonymous No.20331805]

>>20331551
It’s Russians projecting their bloodlust onto their neighbors

[Anonymous No.20331899]

Only nuns and spinsters give a fuck about humanity

[Anonymous No.20331926]

>>20330968
>Greentext must mean it's REAL HISTORY
Fucking trad brain in a vat

[Anonymous No.20331933]

>>20331346
what a gaylord

[Anonymous No.20331939]

>>20331390
t. retard

[Anonymous No.20331956]

>>20331346
This is such dishonest gibberish it would only be quoted by someone who have simply picked up their strange ideas from from websites and popular books.
That said blaming Christians for the fall of Rome is just as ludicrous

[Anonymous No.20331968]

>>20331346
>I looked up a list of medieval scientists on Wikipedia, I'm so heckin smart and I deboonked this image!

[Anonymous No.20331992]

>>20331968
Image is literally OP, have sex bro

[Anonymous No.20332002]

>>20331992
No one here has sex, you least of all

[Anonymous No.20332023]

>>20330968
This has nothing to do with the church or religion, it's because monks and priests often didn't have the same work schedules as regular workers and thus had much more time they could devote to those endeavours. The clergy either spent their free time, which they had plenty of, by doing not much constructive, or by pursuing academic subjects.
Retard.

[Anonymous No.20332038]

>>20332023
>he actually thinks this was some epic debunk

[Anonymous No.20332112]

>>20330849
Why do you consider science hood for humanity?

[Anonymous No.20332161]

>>20331956
>This is such dishonest gibberish
What's dishonest about it? Be specific

[Anonymous No.20332243]

>>20330849
What metric are they using for the y-axis?

[Anonymous No.20332320]

Better version

[Anonymous No.20332335]

Nobody actually thinks the “Christian Dark Ages” were a thing. It’s a meme made up by enlightenment fags in the 1700s

[Anonymous No.20332347]

>>20332243
Y-axis was sourced from their ass

[Anonymous No.20333497]

>>20330849
>Posting a stale old meme from the New Atheism days

Hey, dipshit!
Do you know what's even more important to the entire body of human knowledge than science?
>Fucking Mathematics!
Do you know what had undergo over a thousand years of development before modern science could emerge?
>Fucking Mathematics!
Do you know what was being developed in Byzantine and The Arab world while western Europe was in the "dark ages"?
>Fucking Mathematics!
Do you know what Isaac Newton had to further develop before he could come up with a systemic discipline for physics?
>Fucking Mathematics!
Do you know what had to be developed substantially before Newton could contribute to Fucking Mathematics?
>Fucking Mathematics!

There was no hole left by the Christian dark ages. Research was simply conducted in other places of the world: Byzantine and the Medieval Muslims furthered their own technology, understandings of Mathematics and protosciences like Alchemy just fine during those centuries. Algebra (an Arabic word meaning the reunion of broken parts) is a surviving relic from this time period, so are Arabic numerals, so is a good chunk of trigonometry. You can't have modern science without physics, you can't have physics without calculus and you can't have calculus without algebra and trigonometry.

Go tip your fedora somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.20333516]

>>20332243
giga-euphorias

[Anonymous No.20333546]

>>20331346
Hylics seething

[Anonymous No.20333822]

>>20330940
>a single more surefire way for a retard to expose themselves
using bc/ad

[Anonymous No.20334976]

>>20330940
>Is there a single more surefire way for a retard to expose themselves?
No.

[Anonymous No.20335083]

>>20330849
>Technology good

[Anonymous No.20335266]

>>20333497
>Algebra (an Arabic word meaning the reunion of broken parts)
They invented the word. The actual concept was appropriated from Greeks and Indians.
>Arabic numerals
Appropriately called Indian Numerals in the Arab world. To be fair they did „invent“ writing zero as „0“ instead of „.“

Islam was and is a totalitarian ideology which is not friendly to science.
Look at how many universities there are in the arab World compared to the west, more accurately universities not just teaching Islam.
Look at the scholars of the „Islamic Golden Age“. Look at how many actually denounced being Muslims in their texts. How many were later killed.
When there is a Dogma stating that cause and effect is wrong because only ex moon-God, turned private advisor to trader Mohammad and of course almighty and highest God, Allah is the cause of all things that doesn’t very well with the scientific method.

[Anonymous No.20335280]

>>20332320
how did the PIE people fuck up so bad s

[Anonymous No.20335306]

>>20332320
>antediluvian babylon
Why were they all vampires? The flood would've never occurred if they weren't Cainites.

[Anonymous No.20336055]

>>20330849
So glad we have our The Modern Science. Surely I wouldn't have a purposeful, fulfilling life without it.

[Anonymous No.20336091]

>>20333822
why did they count down to 0? it sounds like they knew christ was going to be born and that's why they called it before christ.

[Anonymous No.20336166]

It's called the dark ages because of a lack of sauces, not religion. The church was the only thing keeping learning alive.

[Anonymous No.20336668]

>>20332023
I think that's kind of the point though. We don't have a proper intellectual class anymore, because all our best minds are either busy making money in business or pursuing goal-based research at a university to attract academic funding. The clergy used to provide a vocation where it was both possible and socially acceptable to spend most of your time reading books.
The Church of England used to be even better at this, as they don't require priestly celibacy so you could have entire families with free time to study. Take the Bronte family for example. Both father and son were priests and all three daughters were teachers or governesses (therefore working seasonally). So you have an entire household who, while poor, are highly educated and have an enormous amount of free time.