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Is it really that good?

>> No.20307449

>>20307445
Nah

>> No.20307457

>>20307445
never trust an /sffg/ poster

>> No.20307513

Yes. Read it and form your own opinion.

>> No.20307530

>>20307445
yes

>> No.20307683

>>20307445
its ok. Hyperion is better

>> No.20307763

>>20307445
It's the Hunter x Hunter of Dark Souls of genreshit.

>> No.20308427

>>20307445
I really didn't like it OP. People here will say that I was filtered or some bullshit. But I thought it was a little all over the place and the story had a very nonsensical progression and was quite childish

>> No.20308570

>>20307445
No. Wizard Knight by him is good though

>> No.20308618

reading through it myself
first half was really good
i'm about a third of the way through the second half and it's getting way more hard to follow

>> No.20308674

It's good, but it seems like nu-/lit/ hates it for some reason

>> No.20308786

>>20307445
anyone got the chart this is on
i think it's best fantasy or something
it also has lord of the rings on it

>> No.20308966

>>20307445
Yes. Best SF book

>> No.20309006

>>20307445
As you can see, it's divisive. But the answer is yes. I love this book. The critiques really all boil down to 'it's not my thing' when you scrutinize them. It's objectively well-written fiction.

>> No.20309090

>>20307445
I enjoyed it.
>>20308570
That was lazy and bland.

>> No.20309137

>>20307763
this might be the worst reply i have ever seen

>> No.20309153

>>20307683
Hyperion was great, but I felt like the first book was retroactively undermined by the second for me when it became obvious that the author had no idea where the story would go when writing all the dumb "spikey terminator going back in time" shit in the original. Stopped reading the series at that point, no idea if it improves, I've heard from people that it gets even worse.

On the other hand, Book of the New Sun and Urth of the New Sun are amazing all the way throughout.

>> No.20309188

>>20307445
It has a very specific appeal. If you don't enjoy treating a story like a puzzle that can never be solved you'll hate it.

>> No.20309286

>>20307445
Yes, it’s excellent.
t. 19th century realismfag who doesn’t like fantasy very much

>> No.20309300

>>20307445
I’d say yes. It’s tough to get through at first, but like a lot of classics it’s wel worth it by the end.

>> No.20309301

>>20307683
Hyperion and BotNS are far and away my two favorite Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels I’ve read. Comparing them isn’t really fair though. They both excel at different things.
I will say that the section of Hyperion where the girl is aging backwards and her parents have to watch helplessly was probably the most emotionally devastating thing I have ever read in a novel. It just really hit hard. It’s interesting how Simmons managed to use a totally impossible anomaly of time to craft something that feels so human. Hyperion has really stuck with me

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20309379

Is this mostly a joke or do you actually need all of this background information before tackling this book?

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20309403

As someone who has practically read wolfe's entire catalog, yes it's very good, but it's not his best
The entire solar cycle is three series
1. New sun (you posted it)
2. Long sun
3. Short sun
IMO short >>> long > new with short sun possibly being his best work
Wizard knight is also good
Pirate freedom and latro too

>> No.20309532

>>20307683
hyperion suxxxxxxxx

>> No.20309737

>>20309379
It's a meme. I jumped straight into New Sun and enjoyed every bit of it. Probably missed some details here and there but I'll probably re-read it this summer.

>> No.20309897

The idea of a world wherein the sun is weak and burning red is truly terrifying.

>> No.20309899

>>20308786
seconding

>> No.20309915

>>20307445
It was awesome and I need to reread it. Book 3 was my favorite.

>> No.20309945

>>20307513
opinions are there to be force fed to people so they don't have to think obviously

>> No.20309958
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>>20307763
>It's the Hunter x Hunter of Dark Souls of genreshit.
Absolute redditard moment

>> No.20310207

>>20307445
It is a masterpiece and one of the best books ever written. Nothing comes close to it. Just read it and see for yourself. The only people that badmouth this work of genius are mentally handicapped or simply badmouth anything that is related to sci-if/fantasy. Sometimes they are both.

>> No.20310252

>>20310207
>mentally handicapped or simply badmouth anything that is related to sci-if/fantasy.
These are the same thing.

>> No.20310254

good, not great.

>> No.20310457

You can tell from the fanbase on lit that it's mid

>> No.20310465

Unironically the best work of literature from the last 50 years. "It's not rape because I can totally tell Jolenta wanted it" is bullshit though.

>> No.20310797

>>20307445
Reads like its written for edgy and horny 13 year old boys

>> No.20310830

>>20307445
I haven't been able to find it in any of the libraries in my county. I have been able to find Peake's Gormenghast, somehow.

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>>20309899
>>20308786
?

>> No.20311180

I'm on the final book now. Still don't know of I like it.

>> No.20311187

Recommend me more puzzle books.

>> No.20311418

>>20307445
The series is amazing. Very difficult though but rewarding and well-written beyond anything I've encountered before.

>> No.20312477

>>20308570
Wizard Knight has a good beginning and end, but meandered hard all through the middle part when they were in Jotunland. It was also far more obvious than Wolfe's other works. I don't mind an aimless romp like Latro, but WK pushed the limits for me

>> No.20312515

>>20308427
ya extremely filtered. Many such cases

>> No.20312527
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>>20310465
it wasn't rape. Sorry stay mad

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>>20307763

>> No.20312587

>>20307763
bravo

>> No.20312652

>>20310207
What about that goodreads guy

>> No.20312661

>>20311187
Nabokov. Pretty sure the guy imitated him.

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>>20312652

>> No.20312739

>>20312670
Based keely, shame hes too retarded to understand book of the new sun

>> No.20314121

>>20307445
I enjoyed it immensely. Currently forcing my entire family to read it. They're also enjoying it. Typhon is the best character, don't @ me you know it's true.

>> No.20314133

>>20314121
have you read the entire solar cycle perhaps?

>> No.20314146

>>20314133
Nah. I hear Typhon exists as a digital entity called Pas, but it will probably be a while before I'm back at the series.

>> No.20314165

>>20314146
should check them out asap

>> No.20314173

>>20314165
I'll definitely get around to them. I plan on re-reading New Sun and Urth before going on to Long and Short Sun. I'm excited that it seems a lot of people say Short Sun is even better than New Sun.

>> No.20314271

>>20314121
>Currently forcing my entire family to read it.
Based

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20314325

>>20307445
Yeah.