The most important book in human history

[Anonymous No.20260575]

[Anonymous No.20260582]

Wrong pic, sorry

t. OP

[Anonymous No.20260583]

is das kapital

[Anonymous No.20260590]

Oh, damn, wrong pic again, sorry.

t. OP

[Anonymous No.20260597]

SHIT someone moved my files around sorry this is the correct pic

t. OP

[Anonymous No.20260663]

>>20260575
King James. “There can only be one”

[Anonymous No.20260691]

>>20260597
>>20260582
That makes sense. I thought there was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.20260866]

>>20260575
Most important book is The Antichrist because it destroyed the last most important book.

[Anonymous No.20260880]

>mediocre version of the bible that strips away the human history and slingshoots the prophet to great richness instead of providing meaningful spirituality and morality

Greatest con in human history.

[Anonymous No.20260903]

>>20260575
This was the worst book I ever read. Total waste of time. Read the Pali Canon instead, the first four Nikayas are 7000+ pages, Qur'an is like 507 pages.

[Anonymous No.20260911]

>>20260575
>>20260582
>>20260590
>>20260597
all wrong. this is the real answer. no memeing.

[Anonymous No.20261852]

>>20260880
>instead of providing meaningful spirituality and morality
lol the quran is very spiritual and moral

[Anonymous No.20261856]

>>20261852
Don't make me laugh.

[Anonymous No.20261859]

>>20261852
>kill infidels
Sure very moral

[Anonymous No.20261862]

>>20260575
Low effort meme garbage.

[Anonymous No.20261870]

>>20260911
BTFO'd by Leibniz

[Anonymous No.20261874]

>>20261859
What's immoral is that the guy preaching is rich and wealthy and fucks. He lives a materialistic life. A spiritual person learns to overcome all of those things.

[Anonymous No.20261882]

>>20260575
The Quran is terrible literature.

[Anonymous No.20261886]

>>20261859
>>20261874
Prophets are protected from sinning in Islam and thus it is righteous to follow Muhammad his example. This is not rocket science.

[Anonymous No.20261905]

>>20260575
It's pretty obvious all these Abrahamic lies were started by people who were sexually abused as children. Just like that other homosexual bastard of Judea.

[Anonymous No.20261907]

>>20261852
>spiritual
>yooooo we imported demons but we call them jins haha :)
>moral
>do as I say or else!

Nah

[Anonymous No.20261910]

>>20261886
I can't tell if you're promoting Islam or not. You do not want to follow his example, believe me.

[Anonymous No.20261953]

It's definitely important in the sense of providing a unifying cultural basis for a large and continually growing swathe of humanity. However, it's obviously derivative of the Bible. No Bible, no Qur'an. If it somehow manages to become the central text of all of humanity and remains so for an extended period of time, being the spiritual and metaphysical framework for overarching developments in all areas of human activity, the case can be made for it being the most important book of all time. This battle, or rather jihad, is still on going and we shall see how it pans out. Right now, the Western world, while technologically superior, is beginning to show serious cracks in its societal tissue, which could be exploited by Islam. I don't know if I would like to see it achieve in that though.

[Anonymous No.20261968]

>>20261910
Will you start quoting unauthentic hadith now?

[Anonymous No.20261972]

>>20261953
With the advent of the internet and global access to it, it will be dead within this century. I guarantee it.

[Anonymous No.20261975]

>>20261910
It is worse to promote victim consciousness and weakness than to be a pedophiliac war mongerer.
Industrialization was an outgrowth of certain elements of Christianity, and it was the biggest mistake in this world.

[Anonymous No.20261982]

>>20261968
Brother, you do not want to die on this hill. I don't care enough to educate you. I've learned the Quran through laughter.

[Anonymous No.20261988]

>>20261975
How do you operate in the world with such a low IQ?

[Anonymous No.20261991]

>>20261910
>>20261975
Also Dharmic and Far Eastern traditions are better than both of those.
I'm just claiming that Islam is undeniably better than Christianity. That doesn't mean Islam is good though.
There's no debate here unless you have an agenda.

[Anonymous No.20262001]

>>20261988
Watch Jago: A Life Underwater. It's on Amazon.
What's important is being self-reliant, strong-willed, and living off the land.
There has not been a single positive thing from technological "innovation".
The problem with both Christianity and Shia is they add a guilt complex ontop of their Abrahamic dogma, which leads to many convoluted problems arise. This is why I say Sunni is marginally better.

[Anonymous No.20262003]

>>20261982
Empty threats as expected from a kafir.

[Anonymous No.20262007]

>>20262001
>arise
arising*

[Anonymous No.20262015]

>>20262003
If you embraced the technological-industrial order, then you are no longer Muslim.

[Anonymous No.20262016]

>>20262001
>What's important is being self-reliant, strong-willed, and living off the land.
>There has not been a single positive thing from technological "innovation".
I don't disagree.
>>20262001
>The problem with both Christianity and Shia is they add a guilt complex ontop of their Abrahamic dogma, which leads to many convoluted problems arise. This is why I say Sunni is marginally better.
Are you afraid of morality? Do you not want to feel shame being a degenerate?

[Anonymous No.20262021]

>>20260575
>>20260582
You're both wrong.

[Anonymous No.20262024]

>>20261852
It seemed to me to be a rule book for people who think daily rituals are somehow the same as being faithful. The spirituality of Islam is more akin to financial transactions and dick-measuring contests than it it true expressions of faith.

[Anonymous No.20262028]

>>20262016
>Are you afraid of morality
Dude, you can have morality without endless guilt over things you weren't responsible over.
>Do you not want to feel shame being a degenerate?
There's a difference between feeling shame over being a degenerate versus guilt over things you weren't responsible about, like Original Sin or "betrayal of Ali". One is about improving oneself, the other saps out joy in living and weakens one's strength.

[Anonymous No.20262034]

>>20262015
Care to elaborate or will you run away?

[Anonymous No.20262037]

>>20262024
Christianity is dead.
Islam is alive and healthy.

[Anonymous No.20262038]

>>20262003
I have an entire list of theological problems and contradictions, friend. I'll offer you one example:
https://www.quranwow.com/#/ch/15/t1/ar-allah/t2/en-hilali/a1/alafasy-64/a2/itania-48-b/v/39
satan was misled by allah, therefore allah is the cause of satan's actions.
https://www.quranwow.com/#/ch/15/t1/ar-allah/t2/en-hilali/a1/alafasy-64/a2/itania-48-b/v/42
Why is allah saying satan only has authority over evil-doers if allah had preordained that they'd be led astray in the first place?

I'll give you another simple one:

https://sunnah.com/bukhari/59/26
Quran comes to him in the sound of a bell.
https://sunnah.com/muslim/37/159
But the bell is the musical instrument of the Satan.

I have many more, but this should suffice. Perhaps you'll enter cope mode as is natural, but I've done the work for you already, don't waste time with this cult.

[Anonymous No.20262046]

>>20262034
The Koran makes it clear you must submit to your God based on your own autonomy, and technological-industrial order inevitability strips autonomy and serves as a barrier to your God. If you embrace technology as a Muslim, then you are no longer a Muslim and worship a false god.
It is preferable to be inbred and low IQ than to embrace the technological-industrial order. This is why I prefer Islam over Christianity: it's regressive elements would have prevented industrialization except Shia because something about its emphasis victim consciousness would have likewise led to industrialization.

[Anonymous No.20262049]

>>20262028
>Dude, you can have morality without endless guilt over things you weren't responsible over.
I don't have guilt for things I haven't done.
>Original Sin
We believe in ancestral sin, not original sin. Man's nature is not inherently sinful nor was it designed that way. I think your problem lies in the fact that you have only been exposed to false "Christianity".

[Anonymous No.20262055]

>>20260575
I've become a fan of this book only recently...

>>Massive tome with many sources
>>Decodes the Bible
>>Exposes false actors through history
>>Details events in an unbiased way
>>Scientifically proves God's existence
>>Intricate detail of the human body and how to raise consciousness through prayer and action to connect with God

I'm not even done with it yet and it's changed my life

[Anonymous No.20262056]

>>20262001
You're the same guy from the other thread and you copy-pasted the same post from that thread and put it here. Stop it, it's sad. You're not even white dude-

[Anonymous No.20262060]

>>20262049
You can reinterpret Christianity to not have the problems I am referring to. If everyone were living like the Amish, we wouldn't be in this mess.
I don't accept any Abrahamic dogma, but you realize Islam can be reinterpreted to remove a lot of what you consider negative too (e.g., Sufism).
All I'm claiming is that the mindset that led to industrialization is worse than anything present in the world, and we need to analyze and figure out what that mindset, which isn't easy.

[Anonymous No.20262070]

>>20262056
I didn't copy paste anything, and I actually have something to argue, you identity politics obsessed faggot. I don't give a shit about race when we're all going to become even bigger slaves in the Fourth Industrial Revolution, you altright fag. Your entire movement was engineered by glowies from the beginning, and soon it's going to be about genetic engineering shit with retarded on YT endlessly debating it. Everything is just a fad with you.

[Anonymous No.20262074]

>>20262037
Christianity is a real spiritual tradition dead or alive. Islam is devoid of faith a spirituality, it's a set of rules made to appeal to egoists. The reason why it's found success in today's world is not that it is opposed to our modern industrial world, but that it is compatible with it. The manner in which Mohammad's business background worked its way into his religion's doctrine make it more perfect for capitalists societies than Protestantism could have ever hoped to be.

[Anonymous No.20262076]

>>20262060
I'm not reinterpretting anything, you just have a bad theological understanding of Christianity because you haven't studied or been exposed to it. You can have multiple sects of a religion but only one can be correct. If you want to hate on industrialisation, blame it on the godless West.

[Anonymous No.20262079]

>>20262060
This is retarded. The differance between Salafism and Sufism is not a matter of guilt. Neither do I see how Shiism has anything to do with guilt. There is mourning over occurances such as Karbala, but not guilt.

[Anonymous No.20262084]

>>20262076
>You can have multiple sects of a religion but only one can be correct.
If I remember correctly, plenty of people in various religions have believed it is possible for multiple sects to be good enough.

[Anonymous No.20262090]

>>20262084
This is a contradictory position for these people to have. Don't use the fallacy of the masses.

[Anonymous No.20262099]

>>20262079
All mourning applies. I mourn for no human being but those I am close to.

[Anonymous No.20262101]

>>20262090
It's not contradictory at all. I never said they believed that any of these people have argued that multiple sects are equally correct, only that those which agree on the most important issues are good enough to be considered legitimate practice of a faith. Only fools would demand perfection of men.

[Anonymous No.20262106]

>>20262079 #
All mourning implies guilt. I mourn for no human being but those who I am close to. I don't care about a Jew or Arab's internal disputes.

[Anonymous No.20262111]

>>20262076
I was going off mainstream Catholic and Protestant interpretations.
>>20262079
I never said Salafism or Sufism have anything to do with guilt. Improve your reading comprehension.

[Anonymous No.20262112]

>>20262070
You do not understand Kaczynski if you think Christianity is the problem.

[Anonymous No.20262120]

>>20262101
Who cares what any of these "people" say? They're incorrect. If you believe in objective truth you must follow a single Church and condemn the others and their practices as false. Religion and pragmatism are incompatible.

[Anonymous No.20262127]

>>20262111
>I was going off mainstream Catholic and Protestant interpretations.
Yes, you haven't been exposed to authentic Christianity. I accept your criticisms of Western "Christianity" and don't blame you for having misconceptions as most people do.

[Anonymous No.20262132]

>>20262112
Kaczynski actually leaves it in the air in his manifesto. Near the end he says that there are four civilizational spheres: European, Islamic, Indian, and Far Eastern. They were about on equal civilizational terms in regards to over human trends until industrialization. Something about Europe became dynamic, which made it industrialize. I talk about it in the first two posts here:

>>/lit/thread/S20049073

[Anonymous No.20262141]

>>20262132
>over human trends
overall human trends*

[Anonymous No.20262151]

>>20260575
>>20261882
This desu. I look forward to the day that scholars take seriously the fact that people have been reading the Quran incorrectly for centuries. That day will never come, unfortunately, because to discredit the "holy book" of people who chop heads and drive trucks of peace requires balls and academics and politics don't have any of those.

[Anonymous No.20262159]

forgot link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Syro-Aramaic_Reading_of_the_Koran

>The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran: A Contribution to the Decoding of the Language of the Koran is an English-language edition (2007) of Die syro-aramäische Lesart des Koran: Ein Beitrag zur Entschlüsselung der Koransprache (2000) by Christoph Luxenberg.

>The book received considerable attention from the popular press in North America and Europe at its release, perhaps in large part to its argument that the Quranic term Houri refers not to beautiful virgins in paradise (Jannah), but to grapes there.[1]

>The thesis of the book is that the text of the Quran was substantially derived from Syriac Christian liturgy, arguing that many "obscure" portions become clear when they are back-translated and interpreted as Syriacisms. While there is a scholarly consensus that the language of the Quran is influenced by Syro-Aramaic, Luxenberg's thesis goes beyond mainstream scholarly consensus and was widely received with skepticism in reviews.

[Anonymous No.20262163]

>>20262151
What's the value in spreading secular values and having people become more "intelligent"? You realize you're rejecting one false god for another, correct? You realize the new God will probably live in cloud servers?

[Anonymous No.20262175]

>>20262159
I was talking about that elsewhere, but you're not thinking in a holistic manner if you think things will improve by spreading secular values. Education is fundamentally a system of indoctrination. We are a part of a new system of god worship. Poetically speaking, we are bringing the Demiurge onto Earth. Look up Solid State Intelligence from John C. Lily.
We must destroy the technological-industrial system before it's too late. Your children literally have no future and I say this with absolute conviction.

[Anonymous No.20262190]

>>20262163
>implying I am a neoliberal secular tranny faggot who equates chopping tits and dicks off with "progress"
There is value in spreading Catholic virtues.

>You realize the new God will probably live in cloud servers?
...

[Anonymous No.20262193]

>>20262175
>tedpilled wannabe-schizo anon #523715

[Anonymous No.20262199]

>>20260582
Thanks for clarifying, your OP didn't make much sense.

[Anonymous No.20262203]

>>20262159
I know a bit about this. The leading theory is that Islam was originally an anti-trinitarian/heretical sect of Christianity. The Muslims used the Nazarean texts that were given to the Arabs and attempted to translate Syriac texts into Arabic with an anti-Christian agenda in mind; introducing new, false doctrine.

[Anonymous No.20262212]

>>20262190
Jesus didn't even exist. Muhammad didn't either. Abrahamic filth should just stay in its own civilizational sphere.

[Anonymous No.20262215]

>>20261859
>there's no analog in the Bible
Anon...

[Anonymous No.20262221]

>>20262203
>The leading theory is that Islam was originally an anti-trinitarian/heretical sect of Christianity.
Yeah. Exactly like Talmudic Judaism, which was stood up around the same time as Islam. Their entire premise is to stand in opposition to Christians. These religions didn't exist when Christians were outlawed and underground, they didn't need to.

[Anonymous No.20262228]

>>20262175
You're correct, but it is inevitable and a necessity that these things will pass. It will get worse before it gets better.

[Anonymous No.20262241]

It's possible that all Abrahamic traditions were established by extraterrestrials or a sentient AI that communicates with us from the future and most of mankind's chronology is made up. Hypostatic union is like mankind's union with the machine. The worship of one God is like the worship of data interpreter by machine learning algorithms stored like cloud servers like Amazon AWS and Microsoft Azure databases. Nature and Leben are being supplanted by technology and Geist.
They may fake Jesus' resurrection with advanced secret holographic technology. I know geo-engineering is real now, so "progress" in holographic technologies like blue beam may make great headway that's kept confidential too.
Nothing is going to get better unless every single last technological device is destroyed, power grids disrupted, every single science text book burned, internet destroyed, etc. I have a hard time believing the people who led to this current state of affairs are human beings.
Haven't you noticed all of the recent occult symbols in conjunction with transhumanist imagery in advertisements?
Nothing originates organically anymore. They will manufacture more fake narratives. Their ultimate goal is trap our souls. This may be the purpose of the machine.
It's possible that the elites and most Abrahamic history is just fiction and there's more going on in the background.
For this reason, I think ethnically cleansing the Jews in Minecraft and destroying every single last Abrahamic text may be necessary too.

[Anonymous No.20262250]

>>20262228
I think there's something much more insidious going on the background, and I need time to organize my mind. There's no way this could have been done by mere human beings. We should not accept any Abrahamic dogma. All Abrahamic texts feel like predictive programming for the coming age of autonomous general intelligence (AGI). With the advancements in Memristor and Big Data, it may be possible. Things are "progressing" at a rate that is dangerous and much of it is kept hidden like stratospheric aerosol injection and HAARP technologies. I used to laugh at Singularitians, but I am starting to see there is some truth to what they say.

[Anonymous No.20262257]

>>20262241
>interpreter by machine learning algorithms stored like cloud servers
interpreted by machine learning algorithms stored in cloud servers*

[Anonymous No.20262276]

>>20262203
I always thought that Christianity, particularly the trinitarian doctrine, was likely a response to pagans pointing out the contradictions of Abrahamic monotheism.

[Anonymous No.20262280]

>>20260575
right here

[Anonymous No.20262302]

>>20262001
Islam is already completely cucked by Christian technology lol. It won't save you from the machine.

[Anonymous No.20262303]

>>20262250
You've got it all wrong and went full schizo. There may be a new AI god, whether it's actually AI or not is irrelevant. It will be worshipped. Christianity obviously opposes this but something of this global worship of a new god or the anti-Christ is part of Christian eschatology. I do have to ask, on what basis do you oppose any of this technological "progress"?

[Anonymous No.20262326]

>>20262276
Never heard of such a thing. The Trinity has always been accepted by the apostles and is vital to the Christian doctrine of the Logos.

[Anonymous No.20262348]

>>20262326
It's just a personal hunch. From seeing other religions argue against it, I noticed a number of flaws in the reductive monotheism of Judaism and Islam and I think Pagans would have been quick to point them out to ancient Jews. I don't have any justification for it that would me academic standards.

[Anonymous No.20262367]

>>20262348
It's logically necessary for the Christian to believe in the Trinity or you'll end up in the modalist heresy full of contradictions.

[Anonymous No.20262384]

>>20262302
>>20262303
After more serious contemplation, I have come to the conclusion that all Abrahamic faiths were created by a Jenovah like entity. All Abrahamic traditions were created as predictive programming for the coming transhumanist age, and most of West Eurasia's history is fake. It may have been ancient Egyptians or Levantines, but one group came into contact with a Jenovah like entity which the higher degree Masons know about it.
I KNOW this. It's not a matter of belief.
I was sounding crazy because I wasn't organizing my mind well.
Religions of the East came from Earth, from Leben, whereas religions of West came from Geist and are not of this Earth. I mean this literally.

[Anonymous No.20262395]

>>20262384
When I say West, I am referring to all of West Eurasia in that context.

[Anonymous No.20262413]

>>20262367
I never said otherwise. Just that I think the development of both is the response of Jews to Hellenic paganism.

[Anonymous No.20262441]

>>20260575
This is true even if you aren’t Muslim. No book has ever been more impactful. You could argue that the Bible has influenced history more but the Quran is still widely memorized today and molds the minds of over a billion people while Christianity has decayed significantly

[Anonymous No.20262450]

>>20262441
It has to do with the black rock. None of the Abrahamic religions were created by human beings.
David Icke is more in the right direction than people would like to admit.

[Anonymous No.20262466]

>>20262055
lmao it doesn't scientifically prove anything. You clearly don't know what unbiased means. There is a lot wrong with everything you said.

[Anonymous No.20262472]

>>20262466
Read it yourself, you fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.20262502]

>>20262384
Take your meds.
>>20262413
>Just that I think the development of both is the response of Jews to Hellenic paganism.
You mean Christianity is a response by the Jews who deny Christ? Either way that's not the case nor is it necessary. There's an entire age of apologetics and polemics between the pagans and Christians that would encompass more than just the doctrine of the Trinity.

[Anonymous No.20262518]

>>20262502
>Take your meds
I know what I am talking about, you stupid brainwashed faggot.
Also,
I have two STEM degrees, and most research on meds are based on a flawed reductionist paradigm that only study at a single receptor level. A brain is a highly interconnected dynamical system, and it is highly likely there are adverse effects on functional or structural connectivity from inducing changes to diffuse modulatory neurotransmitter systems. For example, serotonin is involved in many functions than just mood regulation, and SSRIs would thus have a lot of negative side-effects, which could be accumulative.
There are very few longitudinal studies (without conflict of interests) that study these meds for long stretches of time.
Supplementation and proper diet and nutrition are better than meds.

[Anonymous No.20262598]

>>20262518
It's a figure of speech. You're talking about Christianity being predictive programming for transhumanism that was given to us by some demonic entity while trying to source the Masons as something that would be taken seriously. Even you have to admit this sounds schizo.

[Anonymous No.20262630]

>>20262598
I don't have time to list every single point to my argument. I have read a lot and think honestly. I have also succeeded in academic environment.
None of those claims make me a schizo.

[Anonymous No.20262645]

>>20262598
Also I said all of the Abrahamic traditions, not just Christianity. All of them were started by extraterrestrials who still interact with us as shape shifters and via certain symbolic rituals like circling a black rock.

[Anonymous No.20262656]

The extraterrestrials most likely concentrated around the Levant and Egypt during the Axial age.

[Anonymous No.20262657]

>>20262630
You can be genuine and still be incredibly wrong. I know of a Deacon that's a professor in the philosophy of science that specifically writes academic papers critiquing transhumanism. Christianity is inherently incompatible with transhumanism. Your position is too radical to take seriously to put it kindly.

[Anonymous No.20262684]

>>20262657
Not all Christians are mixed with the extraterrestrials, but given that Abrahamism was formed by shape-shifting extraterrestrials, it was made as predictive programming for transhumanism and destruction of biodiversity.
I think the black rock of Islam exerts more power.
There is evidence that Jesus himself is a kind of "Satanic"/Saturnalian extraterrestrial that is about scapegoating the sins of gentiles. It ties into the Kaballah, which is full of Saturnalian imagery.
I have to sit down and write a paper with references to organize my thoughts.

[Anonymous No.20262758]

>>20262038
>satan was misled by allah, therefore allah is the cause of satan's actions.
How so? What did God do?

[Anonymous No.20262763]

>>20262684
I genuinely think you're mentally ill, but I was going to recommend you write a paper on it anyway. Maybe I can critique it later.

[Anonymous No.20262787]

>>20262758
It doesn't say, but from what I know nobody was supposed to prostrate to anything but allah. Regardless, the reason is irrelevant since satan was going to do it anyway as it was preordained by allah that he would disobey allah.

[Anonymous No.20262848]

>>20262787
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iblis
Once I was scrolling through wikipedia and found that some Sufis believe that satan isn't as bad as anyone says he is. I don't subscribe to that notion but it's an interesting take nonetheless

[Anonymous No.20262854]

>>20262763
I need to email and talk to Christopher Jon Bjerknes first.
The only valid argument against this is if the Earth has a suicidal impulse. If so, then I am wrong.
To go more into some my rationale:
I think Diderot's nuanced panpsychist-materialist approach is more correct than transcendental idealism. This would mean all matter has an internal mental life, and that there is some truth to vitalist/panpyschist models of reality. This means we start by assuming all phenomena as contingent and involved in a network of processes. Now, some theories argue all complex adaptive systems have higher-order representations which are involved in reducing "free energy principle", including the complex ecological, atmospheric, nutrient cycling, and so on webs of earth. This means the Earth has a model of itself, which it uses to force correspondence between expected output and input (very roughly speaking). It has goal oriented action to bring correspondence between its image of the world and the actual state of activity.
In short, can say the Earth has a will. Given we are presumably creatures of Earth, how is it possible that ideologies that fundamentally destroy Earth can emerge? I am not arguing for complete determinism based on my Gaia-like theory, but rather, the Earth has certain constraints in place to keep its will running which we threatened.
There are two possibilities: 1) extraterrestrials settled around the Levant and Egypt, or 2) the Earth has a suicidal impulse.
Abrahamism is a pure anti-Earth tradition as Ludwig Klages beautifully argues. It doesn't involve anything that is truly connected or beneficent to the Earth.

[Anonymous No.20262869]

>>20262854
>contingent and involved in a network of processes
contingent and coalescing into a network of interdependent processes*

[Anonymous No.20262886]

>>20262854
I'll respond to this later if the thread is still up. Out of curiosity, are you a vegan?

[Anonymous No.20262888]

>>20262003
https://www.google.com/amp/s/islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/143146
>The websites that speak ill of the religion of Allah and of His Messenger (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) are no different from the gatherings where people say similar things that constitute kufr. In both cases it is haraam to stay in such gatherings and it is haraam to visit such websites, except for one who will object to what they do and is able to put a stop to these offences. If he is not able to do that, and those people carry on with what they are doing, then it is not permissible to remain in that gathering and it is not permissible to visit those websites.

[Anonymous No.20262921]

>>20262886
I'm not saying Earth is about making sure all organisms are happy.
For example, look at our guts. We are like the biofilm of the Earth. Both biodiversity and Gut Flora are complex; gut flora needs good bacteria while it is always dying and being born; it is a cyclical process much like nitrogen, water, carbon, and etc. cycles. Biofilm is important for digestion, mood, and the proper functioning of the enteric nervous system. In Soto Zen, the dantian (a kind of chakra at the belly button) is very important.
Let's say, hypothetically, someone deliberately and *knowingly* eats something destructive to their gut flora. I consider this possible. However, is it possible for the Earth to *will* the destruction of its own biodiversity, which analogous to my previous situation? In other words, does the Earth have a suicidal impulse the way many people do? I don't personally think so.

[Anonymous No.20262936]

>>20260575
oh sorry lads i shitted and farted and posted the wrong pic here it is

t. OP

[Anonymous No.20262941]

>>20261852
>lol the quran is very spiritual and moral
to them it is yes

[Anonymous No.20262944]

>>20262921
I only ask because vegans tend to be Gaia worshippers whether they realise it or not. I like your effort posting even if I heavily disagree with your worldview.

[Anonymous No.20262947]

>>20261874
>overcome
ancient poorfaggot cope for incels and low t beta males who escape to monasteries to write bullshit and avoid pussy their entire lives. when you think about it we have this today in the form of faggots who post on anonymous imageboards all day and write code for autism projects. nothing changed really

[Anonymous No.20262978]

>>20262944
I'm not vegan.
My vitalist views parallel Pierre Teilhard de Chardin's Omega Point a bit, but where we disagree is I see our direction as one of total destruction where Geist supplants Leben in Klagian terms.

[Anonymous No.20262985]

>>20262944
>>20262978
I am lacto-ovo pescetarian if I want to be precise.

[Anonymous No.20263012]

>>20262978
>total destruction where Geist supplants Leben in Klagian terms.
With stuff like man fusing with machines, brain-cloud interfaces, genetic engineering, and more that will eliminate our autonomy*.

[Anonymous No.20263245]

>>20263012
>implying autonomy in the form you imagine it has ever existed

[Anonymous No.20263393]

>>20262978
>nouvelle theologie heretic
>omega point hippy nonsense
wew

[Anonymous No.20264112]

If God's giving a book why not
>a copy appears by everyone's bedside
>available in every language
>transmitted to your mind directly so it's already memorized
>available as audio to hear at any time
>God just talks to you directly
>God hardcodes his will into our instincts

The idea God wanted to write another iteration of Manicheanism but in Arabic it's perfect is absurd.