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/WWOYM/ Unfairly Stigmatized Cookie edition

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>> No.20234754
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/lit/ is dying, or at the very least, getting worse.

>> No.20234762

Sometimes I read things and I like them but I cannot explain why I like them. I think that means I don't really understand what I like.

Sometimes I think I like things because I don't understand them, and that means they're profound so in theory liking them would make me smart even though I didn't understand shit.

>> No.20234774

chuds need leftist gfs to make them balanced

>> No.20234776
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>>20234762
It means you have a hard time expressing your appreciation.
Have you read any Bloom?

>> No.20234783

I understand how people find God in the most miserable situations like prison or war.
Short of gnosticism swiftly followed by suicide - faith and optimism in the face of this waking nightmare is all we have.

>> No.20234805

Follow your dreams. If you’ve ever taken a look at some of the bull shit coming out, then you’ll understand that even if you think your writing is garbage, someone will pay you for it, and you’ll even have some dedicated fans. Honestly, just give it a shot.

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You niggas are all homosexuals lmfao, what daily microplastic consumption does to a mf

>> No.20234810

>>20234745
FOR SARUMAN

>> No.20234829
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how do I get a schizopilled /lit/+ /x/ gf? I'm hispanic so I cant go to book clubs or anything like that

>> No.20234832

>>20234829
They’re at church all the time

>> No.20234838

>>20234783
I do not believe in god. But there were times when I was in a miserable position in life. I prayed. I prayed to Jesus. I prayed to a god I do not believe in. I still do not believe in a god. But it is comforting to feel as if there is a god. That this was a test of faith. That if I fail, Jesus will forgive me. And with his forgiveness, I have the courage the courage to keep my head straight and continue what I need to do.

>> No.20234908

>>20234745
it's ok to vomit in public occasionally

>> No.20234946

>>20234908
I don’t have an issue with this. Shit happens. Just like if someone has to shit on the side of the road.

>> No.20234967

>>20234745
i hate satan imm kill that nigga with my bare hands

>> No.20234972

>>20234754
It was worse two years ago. It was faster, and half the threads were "what are books about [not literature]" bullshit. Still happens, but nowhere near the same frequency, and the slower pace allows some good threads to live.

>> No.20234976

>>20234745
how come it isn't more common to make a distinction between sci-fiction and sci-fantasy? It's such an important one, imo.

>> No.20234977

>>20234774
im a moderate conservative and my catholic wife with an uber republican father toned me down a lot. in general, getting married should decrease ones investment in politics. pick your battles, you know

>> No.20234978

>>20234972
I have said it before and I'll say it again and again

Rangeban phoneposters and 4chan will go through a golden age

>> No.20234981

>>20234977
i'd rather pick my ass

>> No.20234982

>>20234806
>microplastics
i guess the 'onions' meme lost its novelty for you people and your obsession with gay people?

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>>20234982
both microplastics and soi act as xenoestrogens and endocrine disruptors, stop rejecting the science chud

>> No.20235003

>>20235001
youre obsessed

>> No.20235008

It's weird that i've bought so many philosophical texts but when it comes to actual comprehension and getting something out of them, reading commentaries and secondary literature tends to help me more. even if someone like plato is extremely readable that still doesn't change the fact that a good commentator on him will totally open your eyes to the text and make you see what you didn't before

>> No.20235019

From last thread, gimme some big brain philosopher answers bois
What distinguishes Information (not the Shannon kind) from Knowledge?
What distinguishes Trivia from Knowledge?
What is Wisdom and what distinguishes it from Knowledge?
Can you have 'Knowledge' of fictional things, or does knowledge imply correlation to some 'natural facts'?
What are the implications of Tacit knowledge, like if I know where something is located by using 'muscle memory' (actually perhaps more properly attributable to 'Procedural Memory') but cannot explain through words why I know it, can't give any reasoning for why I know it's there -- and am only able to provide after-the-fact hypotheses, then can I truly be said to have "Knowledge" of the thing?

>> No.20235022

>>20235008
>he outsources his reactions to other authors
just do what i do and invent crackpot analyses that are equally unimportant

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>>20235003
>youre obsessed

>> No.20235049

>>20234745
I no longer feel like the protagonist of my own life, as I had in my early youth. I had dreams, but those dreams seemed like a matter of time. I only had to wait, and they would come true. Soon I would be an adult, I would learn all I wanted to learn, I would have everything that I could ever need. 20 years later I still am not an adult, still desperately beg for knowledge that I, more than ever, need. Still I'm not sure of what I even need.
I know that I, like almost all men, am destined to fade into obscurity, but the prospect of never reaching the nearest of my ambitions, is something I still can't come to terms with. Was it a mistake to even dream, I wonder.
I feel trapped inside my own body, inside these walls that housed me for my whole (admittedly short) life. For life is outside, but I have nowhere to go, no idea how to change this predicament. Everyday passes me by, like a torrent, and I am left wondering how am I even supposed to change, to change something that feels like life itself. I know I won't be rich. Or Happy. Or even fulfilled. But I want to do things, to realize this vision inside my head. The one thing that keeps me going is also the thing that agonizes me the most.
Part of my entrapment is the utter, crippling feeling of incapacity. You're not good enough to do what you want. You lack the knowledge to do what you want. The people that could help you do not want to. Your cradle was not bright enough to give you the opportunities that you so desperately, insanely need. And why do you need help anyways? The people who you look up to, who have made it, (and were dead long before you were born) never needed any help. Then, why should you?
Life is going as usual, as it is intended to go on and as it has always been. For your grandfathers, your fathers, and you. So why worry?
It is all too tiring.

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>>20235029

>> No.20235062

Happy Easter or Passover my lads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTxvf4BPivE

>> No.20235086 [DELETED] 

hello I do not know how to use this. Hi though

>> No.20235101

>liquor store is 5 blocks from my house
>order via ubereats anyway because i dont want the shopkeep to recognize me boozing up twice since wednesday
im ngmi

>> No.20235110

>>20234977
nigga you sound like a closeted homosexual

>> No.20235121

>>20235110
How does he?

>> No.20235123

>>20234754
>>20234972
>>20234978
Mods and jannies have been more active recently. Deleting off-topic and low-effort threads

>> No.20235130

>>20235019
>What is Wisdom and what distinguishes it from Knowledge?
In my shit way of seeing it, wisdom is that which can only be understood by the person who has it, as in, can't be taught or transmitted, or even explained. The only way to acquire wisdom is by having it, plain and simple. It is a way to see and navegate the world that only comes from a relationship between personal experiences with the external world, and the person's ability to interpret and understand that experience.
In that way, wisdom is then not knowledge per se, but instead a way to interpret knowledge that you receive, and is something completely separated from it. Two people might have the same experiences, but one will have less wisdom than the other, because their way to interpret that experience is different.
tl;dr: Wisdom is a way you interpret knowledge, separate from knowledge itself.

>> No.20235142

>>20235121
hes been spamming these threads

>> No.20235171

>>20234838
Continuing to be the best you can through pain, hoping against all evidence pointing to the contrary. That is more Christian than most so called believers realise.

>> No.20235206

my brain has been civilized

>> No.20235237

I will take the therapy.
I will tell all the lies.
You will think that I have gotten better.
And you will have to tell the police to send the dogs to find me because you won't even know where to look for me.
Don't take my fucking booze.

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The question is then is there a hierarchy in persons that are more conscious of God, if there is no free will does that create a Calvinist esq elicit? If one system generates a consciousness in kind that is clear without there choice, and another without their choice lives wholly in suffering, in illusion and fear and despair, who can they come to be clear as well, is there a justice that they will come to understand? If they could have solidarity there fear and despair would be lifted. Are they doomed to suffer, if they are then I will have to find God in that with great difficulty, if not then I can easily find God there by helping them. Though it is not a free choice to help them or not, it may still become that it is done. One life, no free will, yet most of them will suffer all that time. Where is Solidarity in that?

>> No.20235316

I’ve completely shut myself from my family and friends. I hate everything. I just want to like one thing. Just literally ONE thing. It can be something outside of me, like water. But I really can’t think of a single thing i like. Everything is really closing in on me to do the inevitable. It feels like it’s really forcing my hand.

>> No.20235439

>>20235130
Wisdom often has this sort of connotation of being something special or extraordinary. Is that fair? Is all personal interpretation of knowledge a form of wisdom, or is wisdom a special sort of interpretation?

>> No.20235559

I got 15 (yous) from making a clever joke on /lit/ the other day.

>> No.20235607

>>20235559
What was the joke?

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>> No.20235649

>>20235001
one of the islamic predictions for the end of time is there will be 50 women to every man

>> No.20235654

Happy Easter

>> No.20235754

>>20235649
It wont happen since like 90% of the western world is vaccinated and therefore infertile + testosterone levels plummeting because of microplastics and other pollutants. Its over, africans will inherit the earth

>> No.20235763

>>20234377
>sometimes i wonder if the weed is smoking me.mp3
>https://voca.ro/14ab0djOq1df
>hurt.mp3
https://voca.ro/1ldfuQ01FG8C
man, do a good deed, take number of your pieces, make them into a single compilation and dedicate it to our shitposting sangha. frens be honoured, making real local culture to flow around is always a good idea. it is not always about 'quality' but the difference (lliveliness coming from people and places that you can associate).

only when the gravitation of the local will be stronger than the heterogenous (which is poisoned and is blackpilling), spirits will awake and shine.

>> No.20235800

youtube is kinda like the library of alexandria. it's too big to fail so lets just archive all our content in it. who knows if it lasts, but hey, whatever was actually redeemable from youtube was probably saved in thousands of different computers already so the stuff that noone cares greatly about is lost, although some good thins would be lost because of it

>> No.20235825

>>20235019
Information is any piece of data about the world. Knowledge is when you have enough information to be pretty sure about something. This is inherently fuzzy and subject to all the bullshit discussed by the Gettier problem.
I like the Bayesian framing. Beliefs are probabilities. New information moves the needle. Beliefs are never 0% or 100% but at some point they're good enough.
Trivia is a subset of knowledge. It's knowledge that's trivial, particularly in a poorly-connected way that doesn't create general insight.
You could see wisdom as the opposite of trivia, knowledge that can be applied to many situations.
Trivia is that the uppercase ẞ was introduced into German in 2017. Wisdom is that language changes over time, both through bottom-up and through top-down processes.
Tacit knowledge is still knowledge, just stored in a different place. You could say that your conscious mind doesn't have the knowledge, but the information clearly exists somewhere in you.

>> No.20235852

>>20235825
>>20235019
Information
>'Information is any piece of data about the world'
Knowledge
>about an immanent workings of a closed system. Higher cause is absent or inaccessible
Wisdom
>Knowledge+the Higher Principle that cannot be fully understood by our rational faculties, i.e. genuine Wisdom is mystical

>> No.20235860

I fucked up

>> No.20235870
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Looking at it retrospectively, Nu Metal was an interesting phenomenon. At least in terms of what it represented (i.e., the last time angsty and (slightly) heavy music had a chance to truly be mainstream), it was commendable. As commercialized as it all was.

This is a good song as well. I normally wouldn't go out of my way to defend Limp Bizkit, but this is the exception. I haphazardly thought of it earlier today, and it motivated me to write this post.
https://youtu.be/9aFq3u9Nn3Q

>>20234776
Very good album. Although I slightly prefer Laughing Stock.

>>20235800
Wouldn't that apply to the internet as a whole, and not just specific platforms (such as YT)?

>> No.20235875

>>20235825
>Beliefs are probabilities. New information moves the needle.
That answer works for me
>You could say that your conscious mind doesn't have the knowledge, but the information clearly exists somewhere in you.
And since that information exists somewhere in you, that it adds probability to belief in that knowledge? Even if it can't be consciously stated or reasoned.
>You could see wisdom as the opposite of trivia, knowledge that can be applied to many situations.
But if you move too general you get something true, like languages change over time through bottom-up and top-down processes, but it's not really that functional or useful is it? I realize it's an example, but what I'm more trying to get at is what is the threshold for wisdom? Or even if it's not a clearly delineated threshold, what region might it be?

>> No.20235877

>>20235870
i'm not a knowledgeable programmer on it but i'm able to access my files even if the internet were down

>> No.20235905

I feel like I exist on a completely different reality due to being +25 year old khv. I can fake myself around other people but I do not feel any connection with them like Im from completely different species like a skinwalker. I think even if I some poor gal would establish intimacy with me, everything would completely fly over my head as the unrecoverable damage has been done in these 25 years.

>> No.20235997

>>20235875
>And since that information exists somewhere in you, that it adds probability to belief in that knowledge? Even if it can't be consciously stated or reasoned.
Belief can be abstracted into prediction. I know I own two cans of soup, meaning I predict that I'll find two cans of soup in the cupboard. My brain knows how to ride a bike, meaning it predicts that if I move so and so I won't fall over.
This gets trickier when talking about past events. You could predict to find information that confirms your belief. But then what about events with no evidence besides my own memory?
Predictive Processing says that prediction is all the brain does, and that it's what underlies action. I'm not sure I buy it, but it's interesting.
>what is the threshold for wisdom? Or even if it's not a clearly delineated threshold, what region might it be?
The "purpose" of wisdom seems to me to be that it enables judgment and decision-making.
I think something as simple as "that guy is often late, so he probably didn't get hit by a bus or anything" counts as wisdom.
Wisdom may or may not be easily captured by raw facts, but it's ultimately generated by them, and I don't ascribe any mysticism to it. It can be tacit, like riding a bike, but riding a bike is not mystical either.

>> No.20236029

>>20233936
it's good. like Hotline Miami for someone who hasn't given up yet

>> No.20236030

Who was the first person to fully embrace the idea that "knowledge" is just a mental map we generate to impose patterns on the world, and we can't really know anything independently? Wasn't it Hume?

>> No.20236051

>>20235997
>But then what about events with no evidence besides my own memory?
Interesting question, and there's a curious paradox in this. I asked about can we have knowledge of fictional things, so to use your terminology we can believe that Popeye has a rivalry with Bluto. Using this information, watching any number of Popeye cartoons we can observe this rivalry which confirms this knowledge, even though they are just wiggly line drawings and not real people.
Conversely if we remember an event from the past, unless it has certain implications in the future such as where you parked your car, or if you owe a friend $100, if there is no evidence that supports that then we can't have any reason to believe it.
>Predictive Processing
Not familiar with this.
>I think something as simple as "that guy is often late, so he probably didn't get hit by a bus or anything" counts as wisdom.
Fair enough. It's interesting how it's presented as this sort of sublime thing.
>>20236030
The Pyrrhonists?

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>>20235860
I'd appreciate it if you put some effort in toward at all reaching old age senpai. also if you could reach old age without being some old ghost of a teenager that either doesn't shower or uses lowest grade deodorant that burns the eyes and doesn't clean his hair that'd be good for me. it seems you're just washing around in something here. i'd armchair it but fuck do I know. If you can think of any effort to take care then please do.

>> No.20236073

>>20235860
>>20236057
my best advice to you is to go out and get some milk and some chocolate/cookies and watch the movie Frank

>> No.20236101

My thoughts are jumbled, I struggle with addictions and anxieties, that which I once trusted has revealed itself to be nothing but elaborate fictional constructs provided by transexual actors to placate the masses and hasten agendas of control and subjugation. Those alternative sources of information are increasingly highly censored, corrupted and monitored. The world appears to be heading towards a dystopian nightmare of cognitive and physical slavery in the aftermath of a never admitted war. Spiritually I feel lost as I discover that perhaps what I had previously dismissed as fantastical and ridiculous gains more credence. But I feel i instead of actively seeking self improvement and greater knowledge of how to approach the future am regressing into the soothing embrace of fictional worlds of manga and self pleasure or reading incestual sexual fantasies of the subversion of familial intimacy.

Should I reembrace the christian faith I had put down to save myself from this destructive spiral despite grave misgivings over the literalist foundations of this faith or how it can be abused against me by those who use it as their tool of control and ideological subversion even if I broadly agree with the moral underpinnings?

I have not written any substantial essay or visited /lit/ in much time, feedback would be appreciated. Is the paranoia getting to me?

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>>20234754
>>20234972
Hard to measure the state of the board but there is a general trend after the enforced lockdowns ended.

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>>20234745
Happy easter niggas, you are my favourite online community

>> No.20236149 [DELETED] 

>>20236136
https://4stats.io/
What caused the spiking around the 17th of february and the trough around the 26th?
/sci/ shows a similar behaviour but heir spike is around the 10th?

>> No.20236151

>>20236057
>without being some old ghost of a teenager
that's good. however, to compartmentalize for clarification, there are two types of ghosts: some are ghastly but others are signs of the Holy Spirit.

>> No.20236156 [DELETED] 

>>20236149
https://4stats.io/
What caused the spiking around the 17th of february and the trough around the 26th?
/sci/ shows a similar behaviour but their spike is around the 10th?

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>>20236151
I'll allow it
which day would be appropriate to post this with some (non-derogatory) joke about Jesus, peace be upon him? I got to thinking about it, there's got to be something to it. Like a "SAJK" on the pharisées or something (surely we get to dump on them by now)

>> No.20236162

>>20236136
https://4stats.io/
What caused the spiking around the 17th of February and the trough around the 26th?
/sci/ shows a similar behaviour but their spike is around the 10th? Was it exam season somewhere?

>> No.20236182

>>20236158
I personally believe that the Divine cannot be scolded, we only degrade ourselves. But if we sin without understanding, foolishly, does it even count as a sin? Let us strive towards understanding so it would be granted for us. And our mistakes may be forgiven as we are learning.

Ghost of a memer. That would make a relatable story. 'He was gaming, shitposting, dabbled into the.. philosophical. And he was no more. Only an echo over the subterranean chambers of the nowhere's land..'

>> No.20236225

>>20236144
Happy easter anon

>> No.20236248

someone was here, 100%. I said something. Now they're not, not explicitly anyway. That's about the extent of what I know for sure.

>> No.20236252

NoFap day 1

>> No.20236260

writing a book seems like a stupid idea also y no gf

>> No.20236270

>>20236252
whats the point of nofap?

>> No.20236314

>>20236270
people think not spilling your seed will give you superpowers. though it doesnt account for letting your seed go inside of a woman, which would be the same thing biologically

I think its more of a self-flagellation thing that weirdos like to do

>> No.20236323

You niggas ever get so lonely you look back through texts from several years ago just to remember how it felt the last time you thought you might be capable of any kind of relationship whatsoever?

>> No.20236327

>>20236270
>>20236314
>>>/reddit/

>> No.20236333

>>20236323
No and you're locking (or have already locked) yourself inside of a rotting house. Cease it at once, burn the remains, and look only forward. You will only deteriorate further if you resist such a like course of action, and you secretly know this beneath your obstinate persistence otherwise.

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When did humanism become such a dogmatic religion? You see evolutionary biologists who laugh at Christianity but accept the "race is just a social construct" dogma with no reservation. It's bizarre. Humans were really not made for independent thought.

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I love telelogy, the Divine, immortal soul, rationality, mind, progress, and humans. If your philosophy is mechanistic, atheistic, nihilistic, pessimistic, etc. then I don't care about it.

>> No.20236369

>>20234745
Constantly seeing threads about how women are mindless fuck holes is really starting to get to me. I never reply or even visit the thread, but still, just seeing all the bullshit on the catalog is exhausting.

>> No.20236391

>>20236369
Yes

>> No.20236393

>>20236333
the digits speaketh

>> No.20236463

>>20234972
The board is slower. I notice some threads staying alive for 3 or 4 days now which wouldn't have been the case even a year ago. Definitely for the better. The biggest issue with this board is the shift away from fiction to philosophy / non-fiction. I don't have a problem with non-fiction and I've read a lot of good philosophy books thanks to this board, but when it's so one sided it stops being a literature board and just becomes a philosophy or politics board. That being said there are some good fiction threads from time to time, so not at all is dead.

>> No.20236477

is butterly finally dead

>> No.20236486

dancing on the line. for me that was hostility. I wish it wasn't like this. I don't think this can be fixed. I pray you don't die angry at me.

>> No.20236524

I'm so happy to be alive desu senpai

>> No.20236534

It often feels like people here (not just on /lit/, but on 4chan in general and really, any place inspired by the culture that predominates here) have no real personality beyond being contrarians and trying to achieve a sense of superiority and self-actualization via said contrarianism.

>> No.20236564

>>20234745
My headaches are getting worse, everyday it gets harder for me to sleep, and when I do I don't feel rested at all. My writing doesn't satisfy me. Can't concentrate while reading. Can't make music. I'm lonelier than ever before, unemployed, and have no idea what will happen with my career.

>> No.20236575

>>20236534
I completely disagree.

>> No.20236596

>>20234745
>he doesn't know that Christ was crucified through his distal forearms and not his hands

>> No.20236612

>>20236463
A year ago we were still under covid posting>>20236136
2019 should be the point of camparison.

>> No.20236671

>>20235101
I mean it's a liquor store, it's the last place you'll be judged for drinking

>> No.20236707

>‘You expect no more from the users of public libraries.’ She was wrong; there was quite a lot more. The counter assistant had told Amy of a book returned with a fried egg used as a marker. When remonstrated with, the subscriber had said she’d been brought up never to turn the pages down.

I know this is supposed to be funny, but for some reason I am just weirded out.

>> No.20236714

>>20236707
I don't even get the joke

>> No.20236734

>>20236714
Rather than feeling ashamed for using greasy food of all things to mark their page, the subscriber defended themselves by pointing out they didn't flip the book so it lays on open pages, a position that would ruin the spine and is deeply frowned upon.

>> No.20236815

>>20236477
No, we are.

>> No.20236818

>>20234745
I'm currently living with my parents (again), and I must admit that NEET is not cozy or comfy, and I have only been NEET for 4 months. I thank the Lord that I will soon be back at school, or in employment. This situation is a passing result of the pandemic, but I'd rather starve and die of exposure than do this again.

>> No.20236902

I need a pen name

>> No.20236920

>>20236902
Dicksucker1488

>> No.20236932

>>20236902
Bic Bugger

>> No.20237110

>>20236902
"For You"

>> No.20237143

it keeps spinning ominously in my head

"I've been thinking about this
that Jesus Christ was
betrayed by a kiss"

>> No.20237203

>>20236902
Gaylord Cox-Siemens

>> No.20237212

>>20234754
>complains about board quality
>posts anime

>> No.20237387

>>20237212
accurate

>> No.20237430

>>20236734
I see. Not a very good joke is it

>> No.20237484

Something I struggle with daily. I hate our society, I hate how mean people are to each other. I hate the suffocating bureaucracy, incessant advertising and utter waste. Living in America in 2022 is like waking up each day inside Kafka's worst nightmare.

>> No.20237523

I became obsessed with a man, almost ten years ago now, back in school. I would have done anything he wanted, killed or died or lived. I would have even had his child, even though my bloodline is infected by my father who is a rapist and even though I swore I would never extend that bloodline by bringing a child into the world. I did so much for him and he even fell in love with me for a while. But I messed up by being too dependent on him, and he ended up disgusted by me and cheated on me and left. I frantically tried to fall in love with other men, but I grew horrified because I couldn't feel anything for them and I couldn't even bring myself to have sex with them.

Meanwhile, these other men were falling in love with me. One of my exes killed himself and when I learned of this, I decided I had to give up chasing after happiness and would just stay with my current partner forever. I feel something for him at least, and respect him deeply, but it is not what I felt for the man I originally wanted.

The man I love recently forgave me and reached out to me to see me again, because he is dating my best friend and she wants her whole friend group to be nice to each other. I will see him soon. I feel like he is going to decide whether I live or die and doesn't know it.

Even though I try not to, I feel my worthlessness to be the worthlessness of womanhood, of fate, and of being a rapist's daughter. I come here and read posts about hating "femoids" because I hate myself and I hate that I hurt the man I loved and I hate that even now that he forgives me, all I can do is watch him marry my best friend. All of this with the knowledge that I have no brain, no sense, no worth, that my whole body is permanently, physically lesser than that of his, that mine is the same kind of body that my mother had while my father raped her, that no matter how much I read or write or create, no matter how many degrees I get, no matter what I do, all I will ever really want is for Him who I love to drown my father's poison bloodline in His perfection and write His last name on my child's birth certificate and swallow my legacy in His own. Then maybe I will finally feel clean. But it will never happen. And if it did happen, I know it wouldn't be enough, because I don't just want Him. I want to BE Him. I wish I wasn't me.

>> No.20237530

>>20237484
Don’t waste time with hating it though it is hateful.
Turn your energies to fighting it, changing it. There are many others who agree with you.

>> No.20237549

The mainstream ideology is literally a hatred of Westerners. It's the driving force behind most of what people think. Christianity is bad, whites are bad, strength is bad, colonization is bad, laws are bad, etc. There's no more consistent view that ties people's worldviews together than resentment against Westerners.

>> No.20237553

>>20235439
We often give wisdom the caracteristic of being beneficial; someone wise must be heard. But I belive wisdom as a concept is separated from quality or accuracy. There is good wisdom and foolish wisdom.

>> No.20237567

>>20237530
That's my struggle though. I don't want to hate it but I do. "Fighting it" will just land someone deeper in the nightmare. Changing it is futile.

>>20237523
You shouldn't worry so much about being the child of a rapist. 95% of the genealogy on Earth can be traced back to a handful of conquerors such as Genghis Khan. Go back far enough and we're all the descendants of rapists.

>> No.20237574

>>20237523
Rapist isn’t a transferable gene.
Incel hatred is just sexually frustration and alienation. They were raised wrong and they can’t see beauty beyond the surface. The surface is all they want.
But you share the same sense of self worthlessness as them right now. Try to feel happy for this guy, and let him go. Go rebuild your own self worth, and find a circle of friends

>> No.20237582

>>20237567
It is a big world, but the trying isn’t futile. The methods may catch on and we may prove global change is possible.

>> No.20237605
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wagmi

>> No.20237611

>>20237582
For me what America has shown is that capitalism works and democracy works but they don't work together. When you mix the two you end up with politics as a popularity contest, won by advertising and news coverage.
In my opinion there's no way to fix our marriage of greed (economy) and power (politics). I can only hope that the next experiment in Government does not repeat our mistakes.

>> No.20237645

>>20237611
Did you check any other capitalist democracies for comparison?

>> No.20237674

>>20237567
>>20237574

Honestly, two really good responses, thank you. I am just spiraling a bit today, it's my bad.

I do need to remember to be happy for him, which is my constant resolution. If there is any good in this world it's him, and he deserves the happiness he has found. I can't say I will ever be able to rebuild my self worth or friendships, a lot of therapists have failed with me at this point, but I can at least just focus on what is front of me and try to do no harm.

>> No.20237676

>>20237645
You really can't compare unless you spend significant time in one and work through their civic systems like voting and education. So besides an awareness that they exist in some form or fashion around the planet, I have not.

>> No.20237677

>>20237611
So what we do is democracy sans capitalism. And don’t even ask them if they’ll let us.

>> No.20237684

>>20237674
You can rebuild if you allow yourself to. Stop being so self defeating. Hang in there. *hugs*

>> No.20237691

>>20236057
lol i guess i posted this art at some point? respect for confusing me by replying with it, the fact that i dont remember sharing it has been a real wake up call. i think its time i get my shit together. last night i threw up on the bus. head hanging out the window. very embarrassing. i need to do better.
also i shower everyday and use decent deodorant

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>>20236057
it hasn't been a year but i guess in the end you won.
you did spook the shit out of me.

>> No.20237735

>>20237523
my father was also a rapist. he raped my sisters their whole childhood and then killed himself. i struggle with the same feeling that my blood is poison. best of luck

>> No.20237741

>>20237676
I don't pay as much attention to politics as I'd like, but I wouldn't say that your characterization applies to my country. Which is not to say that it all works perfectly, just that it's not fucked up in that particular way. You should strongly consider the possibility that the US botched the execution.
The US's electoral college, winner-takes-all systems, and strong president mean that it inevitably gets warped into just two parties as reified by two embodiments.
This didn't have to be the case, and over here it isn't. Our parliament consists of no fewer than sixteen parties, and voting for a small party can be considered sensible, boring even. Parties can form coalitions and schism and fuse, niche positions find representation, and if your party betrays you you have other options that you won't find reprehensible. Different dynamics give different outcomes.
The US is bizarre, and in a world this large you can't justify a sample size of one.

>> No.20237748

>>20237674
It almost sounds like you spend too much time ruminating about love and your relationships. My advice is to select the best sexual partner and learn to be more independent. Pick up a hobby, join a meet up, find something to do on your own which comes with a sense of adventure.

>> No.20237790

>>20237735
I'm so sorry. I hope you and your sisters do a lot of healing. It's a long, tough struggle. Thanks for the kindness.

>> No.20237811

starting a blog about horses
for money that is, never had a horse never rode a horse never touched a horse

>> No.20237832

>>20237523
he.. forgave you? after he "ended up disgusted by me and cheated on me and left."? when your mistake was being too dependent on him? am I missing something here or do you just have delusionally low self esteem? I'm guessing the latter. you're like a simp who keeps dumping money on camwhores who don't value him any more than an insect. can't really help someone like that, but I'll just say you're clearly fixated on the wrong person.

>> No.20237833

>>20237691
>>20237716
very nice.
>also i shower everyday and use decent deodorant
you say that now senpai

>> No.20237834

>>20237741
It's certainly probable that the execution is the problem. I can't help but think that any similar country would be at risk of the same thing happening.
Having many competing political parties would be a great start for us here. Unfortunately Americans are shamed for voting what we call "third party". Instead of politicians and parties with nuanced policies, America uses lobbying, where interest groups pay politicians to sway a certain direction on any given issue. We have created what amounts to legalized bribery.

>> No.20237884

>>20237834
>Unfortunately Americans are shamed for voting what we call "third party".
And this is 100% caused by the winner-takes-all system. People are shamed for voting third party because voting third party is actually a bad idea. With a different system it wouldn't be. It's just a quirk of how things were set up, a fatal flaw baked in from the start.
Even lobbying may be solvable. One proposal I've heard is to pay important politicians more but forbid them in perpetuity from other sources of income. That would take you quite far.
The founding fathers were not particularly competent. Apparently if you read pamphlets from the time it becomes clear that the revolutionary war was fought over Qanon-tier conspiracy theories. You could easily do better!

>> No.20237909

>>20237884
It’s not so much a bad idea as it is not allowed. They’ll toss those ballots out most of the time. Rarely does an independent get a seat somewhere and later you find out they’re sold out to one party or the other.
Paying politicians more won’t work either. Money only corrupts. More is all the rich man wants.

>> No.20237931

>>20237834
>"third party".
Become third position instead

>> No.20237972

>>20237909
>It’s not so much a bad idea as it is not allowed.
No, it is a bad idea, because it's useless. A party that gets 1% of the vote likely ends up with zero representation, because of the way the system works. You're game-theoretically better off voting for the lesser evil than for your ideal choice.
In my country a party that gets 1% of the vote ends up with a seat in the parliament, because the seats are just handed out according to the country-wide vote count. It's simple and less broken.
Systems matter! Think more like an engineer and less like a moralist.
>Paying politicians more won’t work either. Money only corrupts. More is all the rich man wants.
Corruption is directional. Money corrupts because someone earns money by doing something undesirable.
How does that work in the system I described? Who's paying the politician to do which undesirable thing?
A low salary makes politicians more corrupt because it means they need bribes or independent wealth to stay afloat.

>> No.20238056

>>20237523
you do understand you are not responsible for that guy killing himself?

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>>20234745
I seek the revelations of all that the holy told to the unwise in the dreams of cold embers in sunlight that fade across lakes of black blood and snakes that eat the loaves of children from lamb trees in autumn. All this endless suffering is the woe of ignorant men who never lack to seek the depth of their own hearts and only see the wealth of a poor world suffering to flay its own back in knife wounds of silver. This nightmare is a dream to the nameless slug that wanders across minefield and the remains of men and kings.

But In seconds, the sun is beating like drums in all hearts eat the ear of noise. The sensual violence of lust is all the assurance you will ever need to know the worth of life.

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>>20234745

I cried in church this morning. This afternoon I masturbated to goon hyno-porn. Immediately after I listened to an hour long lecture on wittgenstein. At this point I think I have lost even the ability to hate myself.

I am currently sitting in my flat in Paris drinking entirely too much wine (it is spoiled (I need to spend more on wine)) and reading racist bodybuilders on twitter. They are retarded but mildly amusing.

I am currently unemployed as I refuse to work as a secretary anymore and will live off my savings until I find a job as an editor/copywriter/anything writing related. I was fired from my previous job because I accidentally left the boss of our org stranded in Barcelona.

I have not read much recently since I vowed not to read anything until I finish the bible in French (I cheated and read sherlock holmes yesterday). The KJV is so much better. Why are there only two bible translations in this language?

Was previously bordering on homeless, but have been taken on as a coloc, by a french architect. He is mildly aristocratic, mildly asbergersy, and mildly obese. He is however clean, considerate, and better person then me.

I aquired my girlfriend through (technical) rape. She is Korean. She is a slightly insane nationalist, but utterly loyal and a very lopsided genius. I have never before dated a woman who would die/kill for me (I would too, but more out of social obligation then love). I love her very dearly, but I need to break up with her. She is moving to south america and I am terrified that when I do she will kill herself (as her people are wont to do). Perhaps I should preempt her and avoid the embarrassent.

I recently found out that a close friend's mother runs a concentration camp for muslims. This was mildly upsetting. I rather like the chinese and met many of them back in Xinjiang, but honestly would have no compunctions about nuking the entire country if neccesary. I genuinely prefer the DPRK guy I know. Chinese nationalists are OK though. At least thier hypocrisy is consistant.

At this point I have murderous opinions towards all expats. Rootless cosmopolitans (like myself) need to be purged if this world will ever no peace.

>> No.20238135

>>20238121
*know peace

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I have no idea what to do with my life.

>> No.20238222

>>20238213
Cringiest comic I've seen in a while.

>> No.20238229

>>20238222 (checked)
How so? Has been my experience exactly so far.

>> No.20238234

>>20238121
small communities of self sufficient techno farmers are the future

>> No.20238235

>>20237972
>You're game-theoretically better off voting for the lesser evil
No no no. Old Chomsky idea. It doesn’t work when they’re both evils that power share. Thing is, I don’t care about this broken system at all. It can’t be reformed from the inside or out, so I’m not supporting a third party either. At most it can be symbolic. If enough people vote third, throwing it away, and they take their own exit polls, proving that they’re winning but being denied their wins, it will spur more outrage at the cheating.

The higher paid politician won’t thank the tax payer, won’t thank the constituent for voting to up his pay. Not genuinely. He’ll still accept huge bribes. I once thought taking money out of politics entirely, going the other way, thought that would work. But their positions allow them all sorts of ways to open the cash flow into their pockets. No, we have to turn that whole money system off. End wage slavery as the Wobblies said.

>> No.20238243

>>20238222 this
it only shows the result of having a dumb mindset and being a cunt towards everyone and everything

>> No.20238312

>>20238235
In the US you have to justify third party votes with some crap about heightening the contradictions.
In my country you can vote for a third party and it'll actually do something on this plane of reality, straightforward cause and effect, no discussion necessary.
You can see the difference, right?

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>>20238213
Find something to do with your life.

>> No.20238328

>>20238319
Very helpful, thank you.

>> No.20238354

>>20238312
Parliamentary government is a mite trickier to corrupt for the power elites, but they’ve done it. In the UK they have no actual labour party. They’re Blairites and that’s just another Tory party. In Germany they have “socialist” in some odd coalition government and he’s broken with a long standing tradition of not arming foreign nations, and he’s given them to outright Nazis. His power is so compromised. The EU is just a puppet outfit for their wealthy handlers

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>>20234754
Lit is like the Greeks. Every era is remonstrating about a golden age of dubious existence.

>>20234762
Good trait. Sets you up for growth.

>>20234774
Hi, chud here with social-democrat/ violently anti-IMF/ third world nationalist gf.

I am more unbalanced now.

>>20234783
I have no doubt of god or of hell. The only thing I ever doubt is the potential that I can ever be forgiven.

>>20234805
I really respect you all and hope you make it some day.

>>20234806
I have finally decided to take the seed oil advice. Explain the microplastics meme to me and how to avoid them.

>>20234829
How does the spanish langauage inhibit book clubs?

>>20234908
Not where I can see it

>>20234967
Good man.

>>20234976
Because its a rougher line between the two. I agree, very important. But aesthetically they're very similar.

>>20235008
I really like lectures where you can ask questions. Might audit a few phillosophy courses when I finally retire.

>>20235049
Cringe self help here. Make a long term goal (pick it well). Where do you need to be in 5 years? Lay out a plan. What steps do you need to take now? You will probably fail, but its better to at least have tried something.

>>20235101
Buy more liquor.

>>20235123
Thank god.

>>20235206
Oh dear.

>>20235237
Based, but please try to drink socially. Old strangers at bars are better than therapy.

>>20235316
Have you considered doing something insane like joining the foreign legion or signing on to a tramp steamer(my fathers cousin did in the 70's (not sure if still possible)) ?

>>20235559
>>20235607
Seconded, post joke.

>>20235654
Thank you. Happy Easter to you too.

>>20235800
Downloaded hundreds of liked videos and playlists to external drive. Drive corrupted. FUCK.

>>20235870
Not really a fan of whiny/ angry songs that try too hard. Any anger to be played very dryly for me to really enjoy it.

>>20235905
Honestly, I know this is a sin, but just hire a prostitute. It will get it out of your system. This whole incel obsession is incredibly modern. There are so many men in history who exclusively fucked prositutes until they married. Shameful, but better then letting it burn you up inside.

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>>20238121
>>20238363

>>20236101
Please get offline (I say this as a once and future twitter addict). The internet is destroying our minds. You're not wrong about society, but using the internet is like sending up a flair for all the demons of modernity to attack your psyche.

>>20236144
Thank you brother. Happy easter as well.

>>20236158
I think it would be fine assuming the humor serves god.

>>20236252
Bonne chance.

>>20236270
>>20236314
Orgasm require effort and should serve a purpose. Anything else short ciruits your mind.

>>20236323
No, I have a gf. But I am guilty of perusing old horny texts.

>>20236344
Because HBD (not sure if true) is an incredibly disturbing thought. It effectively undermines the modern world order and leaves no compelling replacement that isn't based on tremendous violence/inequality.

>>20236354
Based

>>20236369
Not sure how you can function on the internet.

>>20236477
I never really minded her desu. Is schizoposter still around? He was my favorite. Londonfrog? The Hispanic catholic guy who typed in all caps?

>>20236534
>>20236575
You are both wrong. I will not elaborate.

>>20236596
NEEEEEERD!

>>20236707
is the book any good?

>>20236818
Agreed. I love my mother, but we both stress eachother out far more than is healthy.

>>20236902
OJ Pimpson the (spiritually)aryan rapist

>>20237143
I really love dylan far more than is cool.

>>20237484
We are flawed beings in a flawed world. Our destiny is to struggle against this. That has always been true.

>>20237523
We all have some rapist blood going far enough back. Don't fixate on it. You need to define yourself independently of your father.

>>20237549
Mainstream for where? Most nations (even in the west) have a good sense of national pride. Indians used to define themselves by hatred of britishers, changed to muslims as soon as brits were no longer an issue. This is true of most of the postcolonial world.

>>20237605
I sure hope so anon.

>>20237811
Lol, my father used to publish a conspiracy/UFO magazine. Doesn't believe a single thing he wrote.

>>20238213
Just do something (moral). Meaning will come afterwards. I still don't know what I'm doing. Just keep moving to avoid the thought.

>>20238234
not a bad idea.

>> No.20238610 [DELETED] 

>>20238528
>Just keep moving to avoid the thought.
That's kind of what I've been doing. I've considered going back to university for a theology degree. Anyway, happy Easter, Anon.

>> No.20238620

If I die who's gonna

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>>20238610
Thanks Brother. I would support the theology degree. Maybe try to put yourself in a situation where you have responsibilities. Once others you care about depend upon you it becomes much easier to find meaning.

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I will be with her again.

>> No.20238652

I hate it when people think they know me

>> No.20238672

>>20238652
Wasted energy from a paranoid.
Just growl, and bark a lot. They’ll leave you alone

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I'm starting to see better gains from lifting. My anxiety has really dropped, thank God. My back is stronger so my posture is better. I no longer feel random cravings for soda or bread.

I don't know why I didn't start doing this earlier. I spend most of my weekend lifting weights.

>> No.20238835

>>20238528
>Please get offline
I'll try and take that advice. just disconnect for a week except where strictly necessary.

>> No.20238870

>>20238835
But you're still here, aren't you?

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I WISH I WAS BORN A STEPPE WARRIOR

>> No.20239045

On Friday I stayed up all night, and went to bed Saturday around 7pm. I slept for 16 hours and had several dreams. The dream I remember most clearly is this:
I was walking around my childhood neighborhood. Two black gentlemen riding bikes slowly passed by. I could see them gawking at my neighbors, and I could hear them making sexual comments. I got angry and called them the N word, and when they confronted me, I started hovering. I flew out of reach, hovering near the top of a tree, and they fled, riding their bikes (probably stolen) as fast as they could. I chased them, flying overhead like a vulture. They became separated and I pounced on one of them, beating him savagely. The dream ended with me continuing my walk, and a neighbor giving me ice cream.
What could this mean?

>> No.20239072

>>20238958
Steppenigger life was bleak as fuck. There's a reason they were constantly chimping out and conquering. Anything to get out of the steppe and stop being a horsefucking yurt dweller.

>> No.20239086

>>20234745
My most controversial opinion that no one will agree with is that homosexuals have tremendous spiritual potential. See the winkte, many monks from all cultures. They have a great spiritual nature which is completely degenerated in contemporary materialistic american culture. They are great artists when repressed and confine their impulses to implied homoeroticism. Sexual liberation is a mistake, repressed tortured souls make for truly transcendent artists. The british empire was built by homos seeking another outlet (see T.E. Lawrence, gordon of khartoum ect.)

I am a deeply repressed bisexual (there was one regrettable kiss many years ago) and have known many older homosexual men (many degenerate malevolant perverts, a few pure souls). The community is often deeply sick, but contains so many sparks of true divine creativity.

I am drunk and no woman (my gf's) will ever understand this.

>> No.20239093

Ten hundred trillion centuries of history and the future amount of time of human evolution and with me a string of yarn attached to me of the ball of yarn that is humanity, the buck, comes to an end, stops with me, no longer continuing in the evolutionary process because I shall not reproduce as an involuntarily celibated individual of our species that requires such practices as having sex.

>> No.20239094

>>20234745
The demographic replacement and complete demoralization of the native populations is sufficiently completed to ensure their modern day slavery systems remain in tact - skyrocketing housing prices, depressed wages, and mass societal distrust due to completely foreign and incompatible cultural groups being forced to live on top of one another like fucking termites in "modern" cities. Should the need arise, another crisis will be manufactured to provide pretext to open to floodgates once again

>> No.20239095

>>20239072
>highly competitive society means only the strong survive
>low calorie low nutrient environment means only the strong eat, and much of what they ate are considered non-food items by todays standards
>warrior class spends their whole lives on horseback
>other cultures hear tell of these horse-men and the myth of the centaur is born
>eurasian steppes are a sea of grass
>learn to use the sword and bow as soon as you can walk
>other cultures fear and hate you
>your prowess is so great you go on to conquer the most powerful civilizations in the world
It's easy to romanticize about such a life. Like any society, it sucked to suck, but the top men would have a great life, possibly a greater life than is possible in the modern West.

>> No.20239106

>>20239094
It’s interesting, it’s all the same concept behind slave ownership to be honest: it isn't about the 1st-3rd gen Mohammeds and shit, it's about their entire line. you know goats go for like 200k in middle eastern countries? that's because they account for the goat, the goats kids, its grandkids, the great-grandkids and so on. same for the migrant experiment. the welfare takers are "worthless" but will shit out (hopefully) lots of little Mohammeds who, in theory (but wrong because race realism is the truth) will start to act as economic units and bump up the economy, shit out MORE little Mohammeds and so on. 500 years of population "growth," and subsequently economic growth, in 50. so the migrants are theoretically worth a ton (but actually worth nothing). neat little experiment, anyone else happy that some fucking money changers are playing a game of Civ with our lives?

>> No.20239110

>>20239094
>>20239106

It's because of the boomers. All Western systems are based on paying boomer pensions. The Japanese and Chinese and Koreans are becoming friendly to immigration, to pay boomer pensions. All the aging societies have been reshaped by a boomer electorate that votes lockstep for boomer politicians in every party who get together and agree we need more immigration to pay dem pensions n sheeit. It reaches a point of parody when mutt romney says he wants to defund social security for people born after 1975 but leave the dramatic boomer pensions continuously growing as inflation grows, just cuz. Everything is designed to leech the young and the middle aged to service debts that the old refuse to part with, because they would rather luxury at 70 than a functional society 20 years after their death.

Of course the mistake they made is, inevitably, that the young will outnumber them and simply -take- power, as occurred in the 1990s when they took it from their parents and the 1960s when their parents took over from their grandparents and so on. The boomers basically destroyed society and assumed there would be no accountability, but forgot their own mortality means replacement by their children and the foreigners they imported is inevitable.

Ironically as well whites and immigrants have one thing in common- not wanting to be leeched by boomers to pay giant pensions they will never benefit from. Ironically increasing the size of the millennials and zoomers with immigration will probably be the downfall of boomers.

>> No.20239128

>>20239110
The young have always had a responsibility to care for the old. The problem is there aren't enough young people to do it. Blaming boomers is like Calhoun's mice blaming the last generations of healthy mice for behavioral sink.

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>>20234745
I actually prefer how black women look but don't date them because they or their social group inevitably has major racial hangups which ruin the relationship. My family never said anything nasty about the black girls I dated because they were all polite and well emoyed. However, either the girl thought everything I did was subtly racist, or her friends and family gave her so much shit and/or filled her head with doubts that either they dumped me or I dumped them because the relationship was so stressful. Of course, if I did the dumping, it was proof for the family and friends that I was a racist or something.

Black people get in their own way, water is wet, news at 11.

>> No.20239172 [DELETED] 

From far away they looked like two penises of white races, but I saw them up close and realized they were two faces, and they belonged to two pale snakeses on top of a stack of cases of beer.

>> No.20239188

>>20239172
Based Anon dropping bars.
Seriously though, who is going to pick up all these bars?

>> No.20239197

>>20239188
I deleted it.

>> No.20239200

>>20239197
Based Anon picking up his own dropped bars

>> No.20239248

>>20239156
>Black people get in their own
See how bad racism is?

>> No.20239271
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20239271

I'm attracted to females that act and think like males. Wtf bros, am I a faggot? Theres no reason for this

>> No.20239303

>>20239271
You’re a faggot for posting frogs all the time.
Hit the gym

>> No.20239313
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20239313

The other day, while rereading Finnegans Wake, I was ruminating over the lines, "Or be these wingsets leaned to the outwalls, beastskin trophies of booth of Baws the balsamboards?" I got up and turned on my speakers to Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart, and while I gazed at my print of Picasso's Dora Maar au Chat (pic related), suddenly it happened -- the transcendent, sublime, eternal essence of being appeared before me in a cloudburst, and I could feel the world in all its ages turning in indescribable ecstasy. In a moment, it was over. This experience made me a spiritual being and a fuller man, and I owe it all to Pablo Picasso's divine masterwork, Dora Maar au Chat.

>> No.20239326

>>20239303
thats rude bro

>> No.20239362

>>20239271
That's normal. Women, by their nature, are faggots. In fact the defining quality of a male faggot is that he acts like a faggoty woman. The ideal female is feminine in body, but mentally is indistinguishable from a (obviously superior) male.

>> No.20239661

my dick has been tenderized

>> No.20239770

>>20234745
if a fly eats psilocybe cubensis does it get stoned?

>> No.20239781
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20239781

Is unclear writing a reflection of unclear thoughts on the part of the author?
Is good writing a natural consequence of well ordered thoughts?

>> No.20239808

>>20239781
It might be a reflection of your autismal inability to decodify the text

>> No.20239812

>>20239808
I was talking about my own, and by extension, anyone's writing. Not about being a reader you silly goose.

>> No.20239822
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20239822

>>20239812
Oh. In that case, probably. Or maybe you just have an abstract style that people could appreciate like the work of Picasso.

>> No.20239832
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20239832

Hello once again. I'm back here again. Not "here" but that same place again. No matter how far I go, how hard I try, I'm lead back here. It's that melancholy that I keep forgetting is the common thread. Its always there. Recently I went on vacation, saw people I loved, rediscovered hobbies, was proud of where I was in life. How far I've come. I'm not in that smoke filled basement on a futon mattress on the floor crammed between furniture that wasn't mine. My life ahead of me has promise. That was supposed to be a fix. All I needed, get my head on straight. But the internal realms below bubble endlessly with their bleakness. That moonlight forest, canopy blocked twilight, dawnless purgatory of the soul. I guess. Images are the only way to express it. Expressing it is the only relief. All my writing, god forbid any ever comes to light, are a tap for the strange waters of that autumnal dream-place within. I read them sometimes when I'm in good spirits and scoff at my self-centeredness. Isn't there anything else I should write about? Is that all I have to say? The answer will surprise you, click to read more.

But I suppose I really don't have anything to say at all. Relieve the pressure, pour some out into your notes then hide them away, tie them down and lock them up, but dare not destroy them lest they return whence they came.

Grey clouds block the morning sun, casting the city blocks, tree tops and ocean in monochrome light. You could fall into the still dawn and find yourself far out to sea, where wind alone has ever been. I wish to rest there. Not a burial at sea, but a place for vivid lonely dreams. One last breath of salty morning air, and then sink below the surface into the grey dark deep of pregenisis, the final call of the stone.


I promise I will read some of your posts, anons. They will not go unread.

>> No.20239844

>>20239822
That would be a comforting thought that it's just an 'abstract' style. What I'm really getting at is a kind intent-word divide.
People have things they want to express through writing or speech, traditionally we say it exists "in their mind". And by writing it down or speaking it it gets out of their mind. If their expression is hard to understand does that mean they have done a faithful idea of representing the things that are in their mind, or is there a process of 'translation' needed to make it understandable to other people?
An Abstract Style would be a faithful representation.
But so would clumsy or bad writing.
Of course the idea of 'redrafting' suggests the truth may exist in between, this idea that it is only through the feedback loop of writing a text and then changing it, that the 'text' in fact never existed fully formed in the mind of the author, but was constructed and manipulated stage by stage through this process of redrafting. But also: each draft perhaps makes the thoughts clearer?

>> No.20239849

To fly is to flee (the ground).

>> No.20239850

>>20239832
Excellent post, fellow schizo. Like a beacon floating in a sea of shit, or a bacon in a sandwich filled with shit, it is a flash of light whose illumination is the sole luminescence in this dark room of shit.

>> No.20239869

who are your favorite streamers/channels or whatever? I am a cultureless zoomer and need higher forms of entertainment for when I don't feel like reading

>> No.20239886

>>20239869
the stoa, technosocial, break the rules, the dissenter, lex fridman, michael malice

>> No.20239893
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20239893

>>20239844
On redrafting, they say that art is never finished, only abandoned. Working and reworking is part of the artistic process for everything except maybe sculpting where you can't paint over your mistakes.

On the intent-word divide, literature represents the mind of the author, and is best rendered honestly and uninhibited. Whether or not it interests people is something only the public can decide. Maybe the work ends up being something no one will understand or relate to - certainly understandability should be a goal. But sometimes even the strange and incomprehensible is appealing to people. Look at Picasso, whose work seems to represent the mind of a broken-down madman, yet inexplicably his art is worth millions.

>> No.20239917

>>20239869
Whatifalthist and Coroneus Phocis

>> No.20239941

>>20239893
>On redrafting, they say that art is never finished, only abandoned
But does the process of redrafting suggest that no literature is in fact ever full-formed in the mind but is a process, not unlike sculpture, where it has to be realized piece by piece?
I shouldn't have asked about 'good' writing, because my real concern isn't the perceived value: Only in the clarity of expression. You're right, strange and incomprehensible things as you say may still be judged as being interesting by the public - however even GPT-3 or non-intentional manifestations of nature can be judged as interesting.
Which means that a work can be obtuse and interesting, or clear and uninteresting, obtuse and uninteresting, and as most people assume: clear and interesting.
Is clear writing which is under most conditions 'understandable' naturally follow from clarity within the author's mind?
There is a common sentiment that learning to write your thoughts down, be it through personal journalling, or structuring an argument (such as justifying your investment decisions) can sharpen your thinking. Ray Dalio and Warren Buffett both endorse writing down your thoughts on investing as being a means of becoming better financiers.
Is this true?
I write a lot of shit, but I don't think it has improved my thinking.
Which is why I'm wondering: does unclear thinking produce unclear writing.
If that's so, then I doubt that the reverse -- redrafting to make writing clear -- doesn't improve your thinking. Only your writing.

>> No.20239956

>>20239869
Dakota Warren?

Been meaning to delve back into History of Philosophy.net again. Reasonable surface level introductions to things I don’t have time to read up on
(I’m reading other things)

>> No.20239964

>>20239941
I kind of went off on a tangent, sorry about that.
>Which is why I'm wondering: does unclear thinking produce unclear writing.
I think anyone would agree with this.
>doesn't improve your thinking. Only your writing
It ought to do both. The mind isn't static.

>> No.20239997
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20239997

>>20239964
>I kind of went off on a tangent, sorry about that.
All good, you raised some interesting points. So much so I made this totally glib chart where 'interest' I mean in the broad populist sense. Not my personal taste.
>I think anyone would agree with this.
True, then let's invert it: does clear thinking *always* produce clear writing? And if the answer is 'no' then what are the circumstances where it doesn't?
>It ought to do both. The mind isn't static.
Mine seems to be, any guess as to why?

>> No.20240073

>>20234745
i hate nuclear power i hate nuclear power i hate nuclear power

>> No.20240133

>>20240073
I hate coal, I hate coal, I hate coal, I hate coal.

>> No.20240172
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20240172

time to get high i guess
https://voca.ro/1gbJ8FKY2IFT

>> No.20240178

>>20240133
i hate petroleum, i hate petroleum, i hate petroleum

>> No.20240236

>>20240073
>>20240133
>>20240178
I hate repetition, I hate...
DAMNIT!

>> No.20240266

>>20240236
i hate metahumor i hate metahumor i hate metahumor

>> No.20240269

>>20239156
Every black person I've known, no matter how great the strata they come from or have worked up to, is basically, emotionally, a conspiracy theorist.
It doesn't matter if everyone their whole life has treated them well. They'll still believe everyone is *secretly* racist. And if they don't say it (and alienate people around them), then they act like it (and alienate themselves). You can't do anything with people like that. It's pants on head retarded, totally self-defeating, and a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I dated a black Dominican who was adopted by white parents, and she had a terrible attitude, and basically thought everyone around her liked her *despite* the fact she was black.

>> No.20240272

>>20239313
>picasso
>finnegans wake
>aesthetic epiphany
are you me?

>> No.20240296
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20240296

>>20239781
Let me present it in a different way:
How does writing improve your thinking if what you write is simply the expression/externalizing of what you're thinking?

>> No.20240321

>>20240296
Writing is the most excellent way of organizing thoughts. To say the least, when you write, you're partly invoking Logos to select which thoughts deserve to be written -- and then you can watch your own thoughts and perfect them through the process of editing.

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20240342

>>20240272
Excellent taste, fellow Picasso Chad. Normies will always seethe at our superior aesthetic sense.

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20240373

>>20240342
Yeah, it's weird how even creative people act like total philistines when they see a Picasso. Suddenly you hear the same crap as someone who has no aesthetic bone in their body: "durr what am i looking at?" You also have morons shouting "degeneracy", or wanna compare Picasso to Bruegel or something, as if that makes them clever and tasteful. I've even posted Picasso before in these threads and people legitimately get angry. It's like people suddenly believe that all is must be for THEM, IN THAT MOMENT, and the you get brownie points for saying it's beneath you. It's 2022 and some people still think it's a badge of honor to say modern art is bad.

>> No.20240379

>>20240321
>Writing is the most excellent way of organizing thoughts.
Why does it appear that my writing still clunky, unclear, and seemingly uninteligible to people despite writing hundreds of thousands of reflective essays with the intent of ordering thoughts?
And is that clunkiness of writing indicative of some kind of disorder of thought in the first place?
Needless to say I'm highly suspicious of the supposed benefits of writing on thinking. I suspect that there's more to it then "just write your thoughts bro!"

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20240392

>>20240373
Just ignore them, bro. They wouldn't know perfection of form if it punched them in the nuts.

>> No.20240400

>>20240379
>indicative of some kind of disorder of thought in the first place?
Possible. I would assume so, of course not knowing anything about you or your writing. Do you feel like you're a clear thinker? Do you regularly feel like you're getting somewhere when you think, or do you tend to have to many tangents?

>"just write your thoughts bro!"
No, not "just". Write well, write about something important, and edit a lot.

>> No.20240425

>>20240400
>Do you feel like you're a clear thinker?
Oooh good question? The false-modest answer is "I don't know". The more honest answer is: In matters of self-analysis, knowing what motivates me to do things or dislike things I'm a very clear thinker. When it comes to processes I've perfected by trial and error. I'm a very clear thinker, I know all the caveats, I can distill tasks to very effective heuristics with very clear reasoning.
However when it comes to other pragmatic things like organizing social events (parties, exhibitions etc.), turning read or received knowledge into practical actions I am very disorganized, unclear. It's a very tangential web of associations and similarities not tied to causal relationships.
>Write well,
Bit of a tautology isn't it? If your thoughts are muddled, how can you write well? Even if it's an 'important topic' - because obviously the importance could in fact be a source of anxiety which can muddle the thoughts - how can you write well if your thoughts are muddled?

>> No.20240456

I have this constant sense that the things I value about myself are decaying, that I'm getting dumber, less creative, less funny, less energetic

I wonder if this plays into the fact that I'm always on the outer edge of social circles – I know the people and talk to them and try to be one of them, but always the one who doesn't get invites and gets looked down on.

Or maybe it's because I can't take a good natured ribbing. mockery, criticism, failure, these things are constantly eating away at me. I had to quit playing video games altogether because losing hurt too much

>> No.20240506
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20240506

How do you anons solve real-world problems? What strategies, modes of thinking have helped you?
What do you do when you don't know where to start with solving a problem?

>> No.20240508

I want to get fisted by a nigger. I want his whole jiggy monkey paw up my ass, tickling my tonsils with his long black fingers. I want to be his little puppet boy.

>> No.20240523

>>20240506
Intuition, and intuition

>> No.20240536

>>20240456
>I wonder if this plays into the fact that I'm always on the outer edge of social circles – I know the people and talk to them and try to be one of them, but always the one who doesn't get invites and gets looked down on.
I'm skeptical about most things, but I think there's a very realistic relationship between your mood and your social life. Body language and tone of voice probably account for like 60% of this. Even in online spaces or through txt messaging your mood will affect how 'outgoing' or how much effort you put into communicating, which again will be reflected back to you by the other person.
Your vulnerability to criticism and ribbing, I hope you don't mind me saying this, is probably causing an insidious feedback loop. So do do less creative or humerous activities, which then cause you to feel like you're decaying.
The good news is that you can reverse all this.

>> No.20240537

Humans just became a problem.

>> No.20240540

>>20240523
What do you do when you don't know where to start with solving a problem though?

>> No.20240551

>>20240537
Just now?
꜀( ˊ̠˂˃ˋ̠ )꜆

>> No.20240598

my artist/autist/serial killer brain has (for the 2nd time) in its life taken and idolized a real life women. I don't think I've ever felt such sustained emotional pain in my life. on the other side of the pain has been a weird 'unbinding' effect. all feelings of nervousness and anxiety have fled my body and I've become reckless. On top of that I have a new sense of agency in my social interactions that was not there before. I get what I want from people, act according to my own needs and have little regard for people's personal boundaries.

I think what real set off the unraveling was the almost debilitating obsession that had me in bed for hours at a time neglecting my work and the many interactions with her that lead me down the path to understanding the sheer depravity of her true self (and she's only 18).
In real life, nothing much really happened between us and it doesn't make sense to even detail it but in my mind, the scenarios piled up and continue to in a renewal of worship and degradation.

To see innocence be extinguished like this is painful but powerful. This whole experience has felt like an initiation into something very dark.

>> No.20240766

Just overheard a news soundbite
>Prince Harry says he wants to make the world a better place for his children
Are you fucking kidding me?!

>> No.20240779

I'm a writer and a poet. The other day I was asking my artist friends what they do to encourage people to send them money when they put out content. They said that you can just constantly link to your Venmo and your CashApp accounts and people will send you money if they like your work. Is that really true?

>> No.20240803

>>20240779
I haven't done it but it makes sense to me. It's better than not having the link. Think of it this way, it makes the chance non-zero.

>> No.20240822

>>20238528
>is the book any good?
It's good, not the best thing out there, but certainly a good mystery with some nice twists.
It's Death in Disguise by Caroline Graham, one of the works the series Midsomer Murders was based on.

>> No.20240838

>>20240779
You're also going to want a crypto wallet because there's actually a lot of people who only spend crypto. Also subscription donation sites like Patreon.

>> No.20240843

>>20240822
Shit, no, it's not Death in Disguise, I read that before it. The book is Written in Blood by same author.

>> No.20240864

>visit my family for easter
>talk to my boomer uncle
>he watches the news for hours a day every day
>he has never read a book in his life
>has only had one job his entire life which was literally given to him
>he thinks russia is communist
>thinks iran is communist
>thinks japan is communist
>thinks "south koreans (sic)" is communist
>has inane crackpot theories for absolutely everything, and refuses to learn anything
>says that millennials should just buy houses to have secure futures
>says that if real estate is too expensive, "they should just save money and buy houses"
>got mad at me when i was 19 for working minimum wage because, "thats no good!"
>pretends to know anything about gold and silver
>his wife had to force him to stock wasting his money on real estate scams
>votes for whoever his wife tells him or who the tv tells him
>literally laughs at people who cant afford to retire
>"haha oh no no theyre kidding themselves!"

this is one of the richest persons i know

>> No.20240881

>>20240864
And some people think we got rid of Aristocracy with the Revolutions.

>> No.20240883

Is it entirely the writer’s world we enter as readers? How much from the real world a writer should borrow? What is real world anyway?

>> No.20240907

>>20240838
So:

>PayPal
>Venmo
>CashApp
>Coinbase
>Patreon

That should just about cover it, right?

>> No.20240909
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>>20240881
What's most annoying is that his arrogance is his biggest legacy. The man has been repeating the same inane bullshit for decades now with no variation (eg, people are poor because they don't save money). He doesn't know how the economy works. He doesn't know how jobs work. He's politically-opinionated, but doesn't know how our government works on any level. Say what you will about millennials, but his levels of ignorance would be unacceptable for a generation with access to the internet. He has no college education, and yet his teenage grandchildren have a better grasp on how the world works, and are at least modest about their ignorance.

He's lived comfortably in the suburbs his whole life, and he has NO IDEA what the cost of living is living is like for ordinary people -- and he doesn't care. They're "lazy". He doesn't grasp that 30 is the new 20. He hasn't had to make any serious purchases in like 30 years. Today he reminded me that he bought his first house when he was 26, and he expects that this is supposed to mean something to me. Then he seriously recommended that if I wanted a "secure future" I should buy a second property and rent it out.

>> No.20240919

>>20240909
Well yeah, he's been comfortable his entire life so his beliefs have never been challenged by the existential struggle of trying to put a roof over his head. He's cocooned, bubbled. Hence why I likened him to an aristocrat. It reminds me of this >>20240766

>> No.20240950

>I am single. Therefore my girlfriend "doesn't exist". What happens then if I paint a picture of her? Does she exist?
>What? No. Obviously not.
>But does the painting exist?
>Yes, if you actually do paint one
>Would you call it a 'false painting'?
>That phrase is retarded, but yeah, more or less
>And the painting exists
>What's your point?
>So the painting, which is false, exists. That means that things can exist which are false
>I guess, it sounds like semantics to me. I mean by the same extension you can Ask the question "Is Grandson of the Tsar of Shangri-La the son of the Archduke?" and you'd have to say it's "true" because the son of an Tsar is an Archduke if we follow the Russian model, even though there is no Shangri-La. So yeah false things can exist, like "fake boobs" or replicas. And things which don't exist can still be 'true'. However, again, it's all semantics because what if you say "the President of Yugoslavia" well Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore, but it did exist. Existence is a 'state'.
>I just think it's interesting that true things can be nonexistant and false things can exist
>*sigh* I guess... maybe if you didn't ponder the semantic paradoxes of epistemology you'd have an actual girlfriend
>You think so?
>Maybe, girls seem to be really taken in by pseud-philosophy.

>> No.20240953

>>20234745
I got diagnosed with not wanting to live
This was years ago but really in a tough place right now and want to an hero

>> No.20240959

>>20240919
Are there ANY modest boomers who understand WHY they have so much money?

>> No.20240965

>>20240959
Yes. My parents. I've heard a few of my friends quote their parents as saying "it's not like when we grew up" with regards to home ownership. And I'm pretty sure I've heard boomers express despair over the changed economic conditions, I'm heard at least one guy say
>How are young people supposed to afford a house now?

>> No.20240977

at any given moment there are tens of thousands of people, at least, playing the same video game over and over again, and every once in a while one of them gets a world record, which means that a name on a website changes.

>> No.20240987

>>20239822
is the point of Picasso to pick out something grotesque and secondary in reality? if so I may be beginning to dig him, ya dig. it CAN be just like that looking at a woman

>> No.20241013

>>20240172
how'd it go with your senpai senpai?
I've chastised you before because this shouldn't turn into your social, but your music has endeared you to me so here I am in my feebleness. I'll blame you when I get banned.

>> No.20241042
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https://youtu.be/PSG2yGTX3KI

>> No.20241213

>>20239781
Not as a rule, though there could be a correlation.
As a counterexample I'd give Robin Hanson. His thoughts are unusually well-ordered, but his writing is unengaging, redeemed only by its content.
There is a craft to writing that stands apart from message.

>> No.20241223

>>20240296
Explaining something in one-on-one conversation is a fantastic way to order your thoughts, to force you to confront unclarity.
In contrast to writing you get immediate feedback if you explain something badly.
Do it enough and you develop a feel for when you're failing to express yourself. Could that be missing from your writing process?

>> No.20241231

>>20241223
>Could that be missing from your writing process?
You mean having an audience one-on-one to listen to be babble as I try to order my thoughts?
Yes 1000%

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20241246

holy shit am I ever tired boys

>> No.20241390

Is mans chastity even a virtue in this day and age?

>> No.20241630

>>20241390
there is no one who is not a sinner. I think the road to perdition is in no longer recognizing that sin exists. as for whether or not you manage to avoid it- that's a different thing. But it remains good to admit it for what it is. The virtue remains as an ideal regardless of the times, and aiming for it against any and all odds remains a good. Let this be my opinion though, and nothing more.

>> No.20241636

I thing my GF is going to leave me for real this time. We've been together for a year and a half and it was always like this, with this constant going back and fourth. She says she doens't trust me and that I don't make her feel special. I feel there's some truth to that, but I've been trying to be a better a boyfriend and make her feel special, but she says she's tired and doens't want to try again. She was in her parents house last week and I beg her to comeback and I give me another chance. She cameback and I've spend the last week doing my best to make her feel good, special. What did I get? Yesterday she told she had desires for other people and that she had kissed one her best friends (a girl) while she was there. Fuck. Why she did even came back then? I don't understand girls and never will. Having a GF seens like a dream, until you have one. And you started living with her. And dealing with woman bullshit 24/7. Fuck. I still love her and I know I will be sad when she's gone. I really tought she was going to be the one I would have kids with. But I kinda hater her too. I don't know what to feel right now. I don't know If I should keep trying or just give up. Being single was not that bad, either. I could always score some girl her and there. But you kinda get sick and tired of talking to this roasties just to get in her pennies and start to think if it's worth. I don't know anything. My head is racing with caffeine and I just rambling here. I guess it's time to stop.

>> No.20241646

>>20241630
Maybe I was meant to end up sexually sin-free person. Maybe not.

>> No.20241651

>>20241646
>>20241390
Unfortunately, Anon, if you regularly beat off watching hardcore porn, I don't think you can consider yourself chaste.

>> No.20241661

>>20241646
desu I know two men at around 60 who I would bet are virgins, and who are aboth and have been appreciated members of the community, well valued and meaningful, both exceedingly kind and very sweet. They are somewhat effete, but at some point- who gives a shit honestly? I bet they're happier than most, both of them.

>> No.20241665

What's the greatest court scene in fiction/literature?

>> No.20241668

>>20234745
had a dream i was aggressively jerking off in a crowded movie theater and came all over myself. a black guy sitting next to me looks over and says, "man, it's rough when you don't have any tissues. that's the worst"

>> No.20241670

>>20241636
Roasties have this thing where they become more interested in you the less you apparently care about them. I don't think you can go wrong by working on yourself and taking women as they come.

>> No.20241682

>>20241670
>I don't think you can go wrong by working on yourself and taking women as they come.
I second this.

>> No.20241693

>>20241670
Women seem to really desire guys who look like they "have it going on", they want to be along for some kind of ride and part of that entails not being doted on, because when the guy depends on you somehow it really lessens his stature as a man in some way. Women don't actually want feminine guys - they want guys who appear to have a layer of femininity hidden deep down that only this specific woman can crack, on rare occasions, and take small glimpses of, but never fully crack open or understand. In other words you basically have to be above them.

>> No.20241694

Take choline supplements, like alpha GPC

>> No.20241713
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>>20240977
What's even crazier than speedrunning (in my humble opinion) is going for high scores in shoot 'em ups. The amount of work that goes into getting a world record score in these games is absolutely absurd when you consider that only a tiny amount of people will ever notice or care about what you've done.

A world record that takes the same amount of time as Super Mario 64's to acquire will only get like 30 retweets and one or two congrats from friends. It's crazy

>> No.20241729

>>20241668
Based empathetic black dream friend

>> No.20241921

>>20241670
Yeah, that's basically how I used to treat them. It was always something like this:
>We start talking
>I try to get a date as soon as possible
>We go on a "date" (= most of the time she came over, we listen to some music, drink, smoke, whatever, and we fuck)
>She goes home the day before I don't talk to her until she cames back and ask if I want to do something again. If I don't have anyone in mind, then I would be the one asking her out again two weeks later.
It was honestly pretty great. I had sex at least 2 or 3 times a month easily. But after a while I got bored of those vapid hoes and decided I wanted a GF, that's when I meet this girl I've been with for a year and a half. She's great, honestly. She's beautiful, has perfect boobs, can deepthroat really well and it's overall a good girl, who loves me and takes care of me. But she also can be a pain in the ass sometimes, but I guess that's what happens when you started living with someone: you start noticing all the things in her that annoys you and after a while it's just no the same anymore. That's (and me relapsing on porn) were probably why I started to be a bit distant with her. I don't know man, having a relashionship is way harder than it seems and I think I would do better being single, fucking hoes when I get too horny and just focusing on my self. I think as a young man in her 20s is a bad idea do get in a serious relashionship. After 30s, yeah, I think it's time to get serious. But this situation is fucking with my mind. I want and believe in everything I said above, but at same time I love this girl and I will miss her if she leaves me. Moral of the story: stop trying to get a GF, focus on yourself, fuck as many as hoes as you can and avoid problems.

>> No.20241926

>>20234745
i'm so fucking horny

>> No.20242171
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20242171

Deterritorialization yeahhhhh so true breaking something apart out of its designed context and rearranging it into something new DETERRITORIALIZATION so ironic autotune cloud rap was DETERRITORIALIZING and RETERRITORIALIZING autotune into an own instrument, Interessesting so wherever there is a certain incongruence there is some sort of dereterror going on if you know what I mean..... So could it be we are just trying to explain basic creativity as something incredibly revealing and complex? For some reason arbitrarily focusing on one specific facet of general materialism? Aren't we just DETERRITORIALIZING and RETERRITORIALIZING zen buddhism? you know .. the unrealness of any territorium if you will.... .. whatever man, gotta deterritorialize this fat sandwich into energy

>> No.20242222

Giving my mom my old e-reader and am thinking up where I can find Dutch epubs. None of my usual places have Dutch books.

>> No.20242279

>>20242222
Zlibrary has some Dutch books, you just can't download them from the Netherlands. Last time I used Tor and refreshed the circuit a few times to find an endpoint that hadn't hit its download limit.
I've found Dutch books on Soulseek. I don't know what the best client is, but Nicotine+ does the job.
My dad downloads everything from Usenet and I know he's found Dutch books there.
I think #bookz might have Dutch books?
It's possible to borrow ebooks from https://www.bibliotheek.nl/ and strip the DRM.

>> No.20242352

>>20242279
Thanks for the reply.
Also didn't even realize I got quads.

>> No.20242391

4chan is my father
what a sick realization

>> No.20242448

My body is falling apart and I’m only 30.

>> No.20242462

>>20242448
You do a lot of hard labour?

>> No.20242466

>At night when I look at Boris’ goatee lying on the pillow I get hysterical. O Tania, where now is that warm cunt of yours, those fat, heavy garters, those soft, bulging thighs? There is a bone in my prick six inches long. I will ream out every wrinkle in your cunt, Tania, big with seed. I will send you home to your Sylvester with an ache in your belly and your womb turned inside out. Your Sylvester! Yes, he knows how to build a fire, but I know how to inflame a cunt. I shoot hot bolts into you, Tania, I make your ovaries incandescent. Your Sylvester is a little jealous now? He feels something, does he? He feels the remnants of my big prick. I have set the shores a little wider, I have ironed out the wrinkles. After me you can take on stallions, bulls, rams, drakes, St. Bernards. You can stuff toads, bats, lizards up your rectum. You can shit arpeggios if you like, or string a zither across your navel. I am fucking you, Tania, so that you’ll stay fucked. And if you are afraid of being fucked publicly I will fuck you privately. I will tear off a few hairs from your cunt and paste them on Boris’ chin.

>only six inches

meh

>> No.20242584

>>20234754
Opposite problem for me.
>>20234829
What does race have to do with book clubs
>>20234977
I'm probably not going to married. Most philosophers don't
>>20235870
I tried my hardest to get away from it once I found it. The vocals were all typical "my dad raped me angsty crap" or "yo yo yo we in a da club" nonsense. I bolted for grindcore and crust soon after.

Random thought of the day: while I'm fairly far right the fetishization of bodybuilders gets to me. The roids, the meatheadedness, and dying at 40. That'll be enough already.

>> No.20242589

NoFap day 2

>> No.20242612

>>20234745
Forgot to add I was in time out when the mom thread was on the main page. She reads The Bible and stuff like Danielle Steele

>> No.20242614

>>20241713
I used to play shmups but prefer twin stick shooters these days

>> No.20242635

>>20234745
i've figured it all out, my gameplan, it's all plain as day. i'll enlist in the french foreign legion and get shipped out to djibouti, and then i'll just desert
i'll swim away down a warm african river till i find a village i like and marry a muslim girl and have 300 mulatto children

>> No.20242639

I like Epicurus. He suits my evil ways: "The only thing that matters is your free will." He talks about goodness afterwards, but that I don't read.

>> No.20242645

>>20242635
make sure to steal as much materiel as you can on the way

>> No.20242649

>>20242584
>I bolted for grindcore and crust soon after.
>while I'm fairly far right
Ironic

>> No.20242659

>>20242645
no i'm gonna swim away naked
i'll start anew with absolutely nothing

>> No.20242660

>>20242639
It’s just like you hadn’t read a lick of him.

>> No.20242707

>>20242660
I read it all and kept the good bits. His teachings are very valuable for a capitalist like me.

>> No.20242723

>>20234745
some men are slaves under threat of death
i've voluntarily become a slave to the liquor knowing that it leads to death

>> No.20242731

Moving a couple states away for my fiancée's new job. I'm extremely stressed because where I am now is where I wanted to be for the rest of my life, though I am absolutely on board with what's happening because to add something you have to take something else away, and I want to start a family. All the same, I have elderly family I've been looking after the past number of years and I have feelings of guilt about leaving and... Idk, there's a lot of different factors and details surrounding this situation which are weighing heavily, and are such that my girl can't share the burden of because otherwise I'd just be dragging my heels and taking away from her strength that she needs to get moved and hit the ground running with her company.
Giving myself another week of depression time to feel the appropriate levels of bummed the fuck out that are wholly justified, and then getting my ass back in gear.

>> No.20242759

>>20241661
Perhaps. Apparently sexual sublimation is a thing.

>> No.20242807

I love it when strangers start talking to me in public, no matter how old or young. Sometimes I would act way more extraverted in my body language than I am, like looking around all the time so I seem more approachable and open than I actually am

>> No.20242857

>>20242807
>strangers start talking to me in public
is this american thing?

>> No.20242874

>>20242857
i don't think so. i've lived in America and some commonwealth countries and have been approached for conversation in all of them. i think it's an attractiveness/approachability thing.

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>>20241013
i was visibly hungover. i got yelled at today for being unemployed and waking up at noon. also i think im addicted to weed again.
life aint so great these days
https://youtu.be/3aUuei4WOHw

>> No.20243048

Is it safe downloading from zlibrary? Is it safer than thepiratebay for example?

>> No.20243053

>>20243048
So far I had no issues with it. You could always scan a file before opening.

>> No.20243055

>>20243033
apart from drinking and smoking what would you want to do?

>> No.20243097

>>20243055
get my life together and find myself in a stable career or abandon everything and go start a new life in south america or something. i often fantasize about the latter.

>> No.20243207

Bros, Bachs St Matthew passion is the best piece of art ever conceived by man, holy shit. Please listen to it if you still haven't.

>> No.20243219

>>20243048
Safe.
I was recommended it by a professor (yes), I used to only use library gen but now I use zlibrary so that I don't have to turn on the fucking Russian vpn all the time. I use LibGen as a second resort (has a lot of stuff zlib doesn't) or when my 10 daily downloads are up.

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>>20243097
Coming from someone who decided to 'make a career' 2 years ago and has toned down a lot on weed smoking, it didn't 'fix' me.
I'm starting to think nothing will. My next goal is a wife and children but maybe even that will be a let down.

Maybe being a degenerate drug user isn't the worst thing in the world. Granted you don't do shit like meth or cocaine.

>> No.20243455

>>20243097
I think you need love my friend. That's my advice to you. You never talk about chicks. Proper love too. And be honest with her, about everything (in due time of course).

>> No.20243487

>>20242857
no, actually I've gotten accosted doing that. problem is, I need friends and its hard to make friends through telepathy. believe me, I've tried
>>20242649
I was sort of ancap, culturally moderate, most of what I like now is OSDM and doom metal and speed/thrash for metal stuff

>> No.20243509

The hatred I have for introverts and autists

>> No.20243513

These comments in ariel pink's videos are hilarious. Pure mental illness.

>> No.20243578

>>20238229
My experience is that no matter how much I shower, shave, exercise, and generally take care of myself, I cannot make or keep friends easily

>> No.20243586

>>20239086
I have the opposite view, I don't think homosexuals should vote or hold public office, and generally see it as an upper class disease

>> No.20243591

>>20243509
Bring it pal

>> No.20243807

things happened between you and me that it took me 13 years to even feel and know. you were there. you didn't know. you'll never believe me. neither will anyone else.

>> No.20244063

Why do you fags keep making early ass threads? Fucking hell.

>>20243843

>> No.20244727

>>20234745
perhaps i'll hit the bars
isn't any joint around here worth hitting but damn i'm bored and i'd go anywhere for the slightest chance of some pussy

>> No.20244733

>>20237212
anime website, rent free

>> No.20245067

>>20244063
And not linking them!?


>>20243586
This. Except it’s not homosexuality, it’s bigoted assholes and sociopaths. No matter the class.

>> No.20245542

>>20234745
>Bust my ass for the past few months on a project with alternating first person perspective
>Personal stuff leads to a mild case of writers block
>Decide to take a short break from my main writing project
>Looking at some shit I wrote during quarantine
>What started out as a personal fapfic spiraled out of control into the beginning of a semi-decent sword and sorcery story
>It's third person omniscient and is some of the best prose I've written outside of some overly flowery shit posts.
>It feels more complete and fully formed than my main project which I've devoted a significant portion of my brainpower to for nearly a year.
Fuck man, I only went with first person because Piece Brown knocked my socks off with Red Rising. Should I go back to writing third person?

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>>20234745
What is this phenotype called?

>> No.20245911

>>20245720
The Groucho

>> No.20245925

>>20234745
Do many writers even study English Literature at University and end up being good at writing it? The only one I know off the top of my head is Thomas Pynchon, and maybe J.M. Coetzee -- but both of them also majored in STEM so it's not an exact English major. Ted Hughes studied literature, too, but I think he ended up stopping because he went to do his national service.
I can't really name many authors who studied literature in an academic setting, at least not in the language they wrote in (since Shakespeare did learn about Latin poetry, Rimbaud too). And most of the other ones I think about who end up even teaching English Literature at a faculty either didn't study English Literature in their undergraduate or did an MFA (like George Saunders, DFW, and Vonnegut who studied chemistry and anthropology). Don DeLillo did communications,
I probably need to read around more, but it seems at first that learning about academic canons and literary criticism might even hinder your chances of learning about how to read and write.

>> No.20246439

>>20238528
>Orgasm require effort and should serve a purpose. Anything else short ciruits your mind.

Pure ideology.