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20142817 No.20142817 [Reply] [Original]

Do you agree with her?

>> No.20142824

Do both.

>> No.20142854

I'd like to know her ass intimately

>> No.20142856

>>20142817
If she's talking about the Bible, sure. It all depends on the book choices.

>> No.20142858

retard here, why did she say "is is?"

>> No.20142863

Shut up woman

>> No.20142867

>>20142858
It's a typo.

>> No.20142869

I tend to side with Pascal: wide, if superficial knowledge, is preferable to deep specialist knowledge.

>> No.20142872

>>20142867
she should should pick a better book to closely read

>> No.20142876

>>20142817
Sorry, I'm not in the habit of agreeing with women.

>> No.20142881
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20142881

She's so small bros

>> No.20142910

>>20142817
Yes
>>20142881
Mini-mommy

>> No.20142935

>>20142910
>Yes
What book do you know intimately?

>> No.20142952
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20142952

Tartt was, is, and always will be, /ourgirl/

>> No.20142956

>>20142935
I don’t know that I’m confident enough to say for sure that I know it intimately yet but I’ve read Moby-Dick about half a dozen times, I’m quite confident in my ability to discuss why I like it and why it’s good with someone.

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20142978

She looks like that girl from Twin Peaks. Audrey.

>> No.20143077

>>20142817
yes.

>> No.20143115

>>20142817
It's Aesop for the Tik Tok generation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Cat_(fable)

>> No.20143125

>>20142956
That's a neat choice.

>> No.20143132

>>20142817
are her books worth reading?

>> No.20143150

>>20143132
no. they're for kids, far too long and lazily written

>> No.20143154

>>20142817
no, she is abstracting/perverting her notions of monogamy towards books, which is both stupid and sick

>> No.20143158

>>20143154
That's a interesting thought, but the breadth vs depth debate is so overdone anyone can come up with a random variation for it.

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>>20142817
>women in suits
Not even anime girls can pull it off.

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>>20143170
Wow. You dumb

>> No.20143348

>>20142817
>agree
>her

no, i don't think so

>> No.20143352

>>20143348
Nobody’s talking to you

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>>20143170
what are you talking about? anime girls always pull that off

>> No.20143357

>>20143329
Looks like shit
>>20143348
Kek

>> No.20143371

Does anyone know of another book that's similar to The Secret History?

>> No.20143375

>>20143357
Oh, you’re gay. I see now

>> No.20143380

>>20143371
RE READ IT
Or find other fine books that do something else

>> No.20143443
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>> No.20143446

>>20142817
Really only for the Bible. The Bible is written for lifelong study, but for example The Tropic of Cancer is built for lifelong enjoyment and enrapturement. The lack of depth is its own appeal - for example in Shelley's Ozymandias it is the obsession with destruction which leads to this satisfaction that one can have the entire thought in a second. I've read Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John probably 30 times total in the last year and still feel that I learn something new every reas through. I just can't get that with books written by and for humans. Rumi is incredible, but beyond maybe 3-5 reads I really am gnawing on the dust of a bone.

>> No.20143597

>>20142817
Interesting quote because I was thinking about a similar thing a few days ago. It seems to me one aspect of autism is how you desire to learn deeply about a very small niche. Normies consider this sick and try at all times to not get too deep into any one thing, but always keep moving and get a very superficial understanding of as many things as possible instead, because they think that way you'll clash with as few people as possible. I think maybe you can gain an understanding of the whole of existence by gaining a very deep understanding of a very small niche.

>> No.20143617

I do. I think expanding your critical thought is more important than surface reading. Every book can be looked at deeper. It's always best to understand why a book is the way it is.

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20143622

>writes 3 books in 40 years

>> No.20143632

>>20143622
Trannies are literally dangerous misinformation.

>> No.20143635

I think I would modify the sentiment to state that your reading should not be *only* broad. If you read broadly but only engage with everything at a surface level I don't think you're doing something worthwhile. You do need to select certain things to study deeply.

>> No.20143647

>>20143446
Hi, I'm a Mark who knows a Matthew, a Lukas, and a Jan, and I thank you for taking the time reading a books named after us. As it is written in the prophet ISAIAH...

Make straight the paths of the LORD!

>> No.20143765

>>20142817
it's a bastardization of pope
> “A little learning is a dangerous thing.
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian Spring;
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
and drinking largely sobers us again.”

― Alexander Pope, An Essay On Criticism
but yeah her fiction is rather nice and she's cute as a button

>> No.20143779

>>20142817
Is something that you can and sure pays off in this specialized society but poorly reading millions of books gives you a considerably amount of reading and life experience

>> No.20143782

>>20143779
There aren't a million books worth reading.

>> No.20143842

>>20143443
God this twat is so pretentious. She writes like shit, takes ten fucking years for a single book, and in the end she produces a bloated mess of vague deep-sounding-but-actually-retarded prose, and then acts as if she's le great artist too cool for you.

High brow for low brow people.

>> No.20143849

>>20143622
That's not even the problem, the problem is how utterly mediocre they are. Tartt is presented by the literary world as this sophisticated writer of "real" literature, but she writes goddamn pulp, and boring one at that. She has nothing to say worth reading, beneath her posturing.

>> No.20143880

>>20143622
>writes 3 books in 40 years

Much preferred to the writer who puts out books constantly and 9 out of 10 of them are not noteworthy (e.g. Stephen King).

>> No.20143891

>>20143765
This sort of idea (studying a few books well father than many superficially) extends back to Seneca, if not further.

>> No.20144045

>>20143842
>>20143849
Damn anon

>> No.20144066

>>20142817
She looks psychotic and creepy.
Hot.

>> No.20144142

>In 2002, it was reported that Tartt had lived in Greenwich Village, the Upper East Side,[40] and on a farm near Charlottesville, Virginia;[41] that she is 5ft tall[42] and that she had said she would never get married
Damn, no cute intellectual gf for me I guess

>> No.20144169

>>20142817
Discount Rijneveld

>> No.20144170

>It is is
Dropped.

>> No.20144631

>>20142856
The Bible is cheating because it's 66 books (apocrypha don't count).

>> No.20144653

>>20142956
>gay ass nigga likes DICK so much he's read it six times
Just buy a fucking dildo already.

>> No.20144664

>>20144142
Back off man, she's mine, I'll break that ice.

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>>20142978
>She looks like that girl from Twin Peaks. Audrey.
Nah.
More like Jessica Raine.

>> No.20144678

>>20143622
Since the Great Gender Fraud started I have been introduced to TERFs and their writings. Tartt is one of the towering trans exculsionary writers to have ever lived.

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>>20142817
>Do you agree with her?
On anything. How hot is that little minx? Literally suicide fuel for trannies, lolz. Beautiful and smart and a real woman.

>> No.20144828

>>20144691
Looks like Charls Carrol to me

>> No.20144843

>>20143849
>tfw I don't want to agree but thought the goldfinch was complete and utter shit

>> No.20144918

>>20142881
Cor she’d make my knob look massive

>> No.20144926

Is there a porn star that looks like her?

>> No.20144932

>>20143849
>Tartt is presented by the literary world as this sophisticated writer of "real" literature
What do you mean by the “literary world”? She’s immensely popular in mainstream circles, but not so much in academic or literary circles. No one even slightly knowledgeable about literary fiction thinks her work is sophisticated

>> No.20144960

>>20142952
wow she has beautiful eyes. I love women.

>> No.20145105

>>20144631
>The Bible is cheating because it's 66 books (apocrypha don't count).
would the apocrypha make it a dirty number?

>> No.20145135

>>20144926
your mom

>> No.20145276

>>20142978
No she doesn't, Audrey is drop-dead gorgeous.

>> No.20145462

>>20142817
She looks like the kind of person I should never agree with about anything as a rule.

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>>20144653
n-no u

>> No.20145500

>>20144678
TERFs are neither poltically effective nor your friends. You can't even ally with them on anti-tranny political projects. I've tried. No dice.

I am a Nazi and know many more. I have never met a Nazi who hated jews or blacks the way TERFs hate men. It's visceral and savage. Their hatred of trannies is an outgrowth of their misandry, not a desire for safety, justice, or reason. They talk about these thins but it's not their motivation.

Peas in a pod with Solanas.

Everything they write is for their echo chamber. They have almost no political impact other than you knowing about them.

>> No.20146227

>>20145500
TERFs don’t hate men, they hate misogynists and nazis are as famous for their misogyny as their homosexual and trans acceptance.
There are many mentally unstable people from all walks of life finding little places online to vent their schizophrenia (like fourchan) so the rabid and unhinged look like a majority to someone just scanning the surface.
Much the same way incels see women as all online posing for clicks and hooking simps etc. these people are small slices of us.

Most TERFs are nice, like J.K. (And me)

>> No.20146236

>>20144678
>Tartt is one of the towering trans exculsionary writers to have ever lived.
what the fuck are you talking about

>> No.20146240

>>20142881
whenever I see a smol woman I have the urge to pick them up and carry them to my cave for unga bunga

>> No.20146253

>>20142817
knowing the bible intimately would be a whole lot more useful than having a surface knowledge of all 100 entries in the Hardy Boys series or whatever

>> No.20146256

>>20145500
> I am a Nazi

is that really something you needed to share with the class, Adolf?

>> No.20146283

>>20142817
Rip off of Bruce Lee, but run it.

>> No.20146305

>>20146253
>knowing the Bible
>useful

>> No.20146315

>>20146305
considering how much it's influenced world history? being able to quote any part of it at will would be rhetorically useful in today's idiotically religious society. "Thou shalt not abuse my prophet" etc.

>> No.20146913

>>20146227
In my experience the male-exterminationist-pathenogenisis-powered-Neo-Lesbos-futurism always comes out eventually. Even with the nice-lady academics.

If you're not like the other girls you're the exception. But you know what I'm talking about.

I actually agree with TERFs on about 90% of your social ideology. Especially on the necessity of maintaining female spaces as sanctums with all-female hierarchies, and the importance of women as role models for girls. The list of TERF points that converge with National Socialism is quite long. However, I found maintaining functional political relations with TERFs impossible, simply because of the Harpy Flock Effect.

And no, I didn't speak to them the way I'm speaking to you.

I have been an activist for about two decades and have been able to work with just about any group. Ivory tower postmodern academics. Hippies. Vegan libertarians. Civic nationalists. Reformed MS13 street preachers. The Democratic party establishment. The Republican party establishment. These relations were always cordial and occasionally fruitful.

TERFs? Not a chance in hell.

>>20146256
Did you know that cross-sex hormones reduce male IQ by 10 points on average?
They should have told you.

>> No.20147027

>>20142817
No, that's total bullshit professors tell themselves.
You'll be a better writer if you know one chapter (~20 pages) by Cervantes, one by Sterne, one by Melville, one by Joyce, one by Nabokov, one by Faulkner, one by Conrad, one by Flaubert, one story by Borges, one by Maupassant, one by Chekhov etc. than if you know one entire book of Faulkner by heart, in which case you'd just become an imitator of Faulkner.

>> No.20147032

>>20147027
Pretty based post

>> No.20147034

>>20143842
That's what ''midcult'' is all about. Umberto Eco and MacDonald wrote about that issue.

>> No.20147038

>>20142854
spbp

>> No.20147061

>>20147027
Also, it's good to remind yourself that Borges admitted to rarely reading books from cover to cover, and so did Samuel Johnson.
It doesn't mean it's bad, it's just unnecessary if you wish to develop your style or get new ideas.
It's good to read in depth, but knowing one entire book intimately is just book fetishism. There is no book, unless it be a very short one, that deserves to be known intimately in all of its pages. Sometimes, even Homer sleeps.
Book fetishism is the death of many good writers. It can turn a creative kid into stupid academic in search of ''erudition''. Nobody knew more books than Harold Bloom, yet his sole attempt at writing a novel ended up pretty badly.

>FERRARI. As for your 18 years as director of the National Library, Borges, is there a way of synthesizing the experience of those years in your memory?

>BORGES. It would have to be an extremely vivid memory, because wherever I am in the world I dream of the Montserrat neighbourhood, more specifically about the National library, on the calle México, between Perú and Bolívar. Yes, it’s strange, in my dreams I’m always there. So that something has remained of that old building. Although I don’t have the right to call it old—the building dates from 1901 while unfortunately I date from 1899. So for me it’s a young building, a younger brother with 900,000 volumes. And I—I don’t know if I have read even 900 volumes in my life (laughs), perhaps not. But I’ve studied many books. . . . Now that it’s just us two, I can tell you that I think I haven’t read any book from beginning to end, apart from a few novels and the History of Western Philosophy by Russell. I’ve enjoyed browsing, which means that I always had the idea of being a hedonistic reader—I’ve never read out of a sense of duty. I remember what Carlyle said: That a European could only read the Koran from beginning to end if he were moved by a sense of duty.

>FERRARI. Perhaps you always went back to the indexes of the books with which you were familiar but whose entire contents you hadn’t read.

>BORGES. I’m not so sure, eh? (Both laugh.) I don’t want to boast, but there’s always a pleasure in rereading that isn’t there in reading . . . For example, I always say that my favourite author is Thomas de Quincey. Well, here I have the 14 volumes that I bought some time ago. When I die, it will probably be revealed that many pages are still uncut in that favourite book of mine. But that doesn’t mean that it isn’t my favourite—my memory comes back to it, and I’ve returned to it many times.