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20111175 No.20111175 [Reply] [Original]

How was he so based? only plebs don't like him. This is an absolute observable reality. Anyone of superior esoteric knowledge who has read him understands the "value".

>> No.20111189

The Negroid sperm, etc.

>> No.20111190

>>20111175
i judge writers by how they would fair in a fistfight

my contention is this little fella would last about 3 seconds before riding the tiger to safety

>> No.20111197

>>20111190
Marx would definitely fuck him up.

>> No.20111201

What is his most accessible work that doesn't read like schizo nonsense?

>> No.20111207
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>"There is a whole ritual related to anal penetration through the narrow door that opens on the labyrinth (in the man, the intestine). In Tantric Yoga, the center of Ganesha, the guardian of the gates, is in the region of the rectum. The male organ, if it penetrates directly into the zone of the coiled energy (Kundalini), can allow to awaken it brutally and to cause states of illumination and sudden perception of transcendent realities. This is why this act can play an important role in initiation. "This explains a rite of male initiation, widespread among primitive peoples, though rarely reported by Western observers ..., in which adult male insiders have sex in the anus with novices ... The custom of this kind can be very much at the basis of the homosexual eroticism encouraged so strongly by the Greeks in the classical period. This act is one of the accusations made against the Dionysian organizations by their detractors, and against certain initiatory groups in the Christian and Islamic world

>> No.20111224

>>20111190
>fistfight
t. nigger

>Generally speaking, the taste for brutality now seems to be ingrained in the American mindset. It is true that the most brutal of all sports, boxing, originated in England, but it is in the United States that its most aberrant forms have developed, and it is there that it has become the object of a collective obsession, soon transmitted to other nations. Concerning the taste for getting into fights and coming to blows in the most savage manner it is enough, though, to consider the greater part of American films and popular detective stories: vulgar fist-fighting is a constant theme, evidently because it corresponds to the tastes of American audiences and readers, for whom it seems to be the symbol of true masculinity. America, the world leader, has, on the other hand, more than any other nation relegated the traditional duel to the status of ridiculous European antiquated rubbish. The duel is a method of settling disputes, following strict rules, without resorting to the primitive brute force of the mere arm and fist. There is no need to point out the striking contrast between this American trait and the ideal behavior of the English gentleman, despite the fact that the English made up a component of the original people of the United States - Evola

>> No.20111225

>>20111207
They took this from you

>> No.20111233

>>20111224
>BAPtards: We will conquer. Throw off the shackles of civilization. Return to our untamed roots.
>Also BAPtards: Waaah bwapipo fight 2 much

>> No.20111248

>>20111233
>BAP
No one cares.

>> No.20111255

>>20111248
implying there isn't a 99.9999% overlap of people who read Evola and people who read BAP

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>>20111224
Doesnt Evola criticize warfare for being "democratized" and favors something like each party putting forth a champion to fight in a duel? Even in this passage, he seems to only have a problem with boxing because it's unsophisticated. Boxers are incredibly skillful, and spend as much time mastering their craft as any swordsman; it seems like evola just doesnt understand boxing at all.

>> No.20111276

>>20111224
man we really lived rent free in his head.

>> No.20111307

>>20111273
The man champions gay sex by claiming it is a mystical rite. I know plenty of faggots without a spiritually tuned bone in their body. They are creatures of pure material pursuits and aims.

>> No.20111340

>>20111273
>>20111307
I mean, at this point you really ought to complete the synthesis. If ritual single combat is better than democratic warfare, and the penetrative acts he describes lead to transcendence, it is quite clear that a champion from each side not only needs to fight one another, but that the winner should awaken the loser using his virile potency so as to improve mankind

>> No.20111361

>>20111201
"Yoga of Power" if only because he is largely giving a breakdown of Tantra. He still brings his politics in from time to time (such as whether Tantra is "democratic" or not), but he states it out in the open, as opposed to subversively weaving it in.

Actually one of the better books on Tantra, since he is not squeamish about pointing things out (as evidenced by >>20111207 )

>>20111255
I've read Evola and don't like BAP. BAP's stuff at the end of the day is just slick social media marketing.

Speaking of faggots on social media, I think most people don't read his books. He is ultimately a philosopher of occultism, the esoteric, and magical metaphysics. His whole worldview, including political, is dependent upon a mysticism that rejects standard christian theology. Most twitter "Trad" types are either legitimately afraid of such things, or see it as cringe new age garbage. He would have been more at home posting on /x/, attempting to BTFO of anyone endorsing Theosophy, than naming Jews on /pol/.

Why does Evola get a break? Probably because is photographed wearing a monocle with plenty of paragraph long quotes that say "DEMOCRACY BAD! TRADITION GUUD!", even though his "Traditionalism" is much more concerned with the esoteric meaning of arabic script than having big white christian families. In fact, Evola would dismiss this as a sentimental bourgeois conceptions of the family, in contrast to a true "Traditional" outlook that is above such shallow and trifling materialism.

>> No.20111391

>>20111190
>Plato wins in either a philosophical comparison or a fistfight with any other philosopher
Based

>> No.20111404

I wasted years reading this guy

>> No.20111764

>>20111189
has that passage been refuted?

>> No.20111766

>>20111404
Wasted?

>> No.20111768

>>20111361
not an argument

>> No.20111983

That man was a charlatan.

>> No.20112611

>>20111207
Evola didn't write this lmao

>> No.20112694

>>20111190
Not so sure about that. A few years ago somebody unearthed an archival report from fascist Italy where Evola walked up to a Waffen SS soldier who was talking shit about Italians and punched him in the face.

>> No.20112706

>>20111175
The only people I've known who like Evola have been uncultured swine (plebs) who discovered him on /pol/.

>> No.20113018

>>20111207
VGH, RETVRN TO TRADITION

>> No.20113059

>>20111361
> Actually one of the better books on Tantra
Not really, he couldn’t read Sanskrit or Tamil and never did a serious study of the original sources and he never read most of the works of the major Tantric philosophers. It’s mostly just him repeating random bits he got from secondary sources combined with his Nietzschean power fantasies. Fuerstein’s “Tantra: path of Ecstaty” is much better, the title makes it sound salacious or new-age but its a serious study of the original Hindu Shaivist and Shaktist sources that Tantra is derived from.

>> No.20113141

>>20111983
Stfu nigger

>> No.20113212

>>20111766
Yes. I believe it was a waste.

>> No.20113439

>>20113059
To be fair if you are reading Evola for Tantric work you are not really approaching the core of Evola.

>> No.20113466

>>20113018
>>20111189
Do you know these are fake quotes?

>>20111190
>>20111197
Serious question: do you watch late night talk shows? if you do, you might have a mental disability. do you know anything about Evola's metaphysics and about initiation? if not why are you here?

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>> No.20113489

>>20113059
>blathers and recommends a jiew
>doesn't try to refute Evola, complains about Nietzsche
very low quality post, it's like the board is full of mentally ill trannies and shills. and nonwhites.

>> No.20113501

Total widwit, he got his ass kicked in that debate with Sam Harris

>> No.20113506

>>20112694
Holy shit, based

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>>20113489
Feurstein’s full name is Georg Feurstein, he is a German scholar and not a Jew you dumbass

>Historian of religions Mircea Eliade called Feuerstein's The Philosophy of Classical Yoga, "one of the most profound and original contributions to the understanding of classical yoga".[6]

>Yoga Journal described him as "one of the most highly regarded scholars on Hinduism in the West".[7] Holly Hammond added that as well as being one of the most prolific of yoga scholars, he was "no dry academic; his scholarship is directly relevant to spiritual practice".[8]

>> No.20113540

>>20113468
this is the thing, if you have difficulty trying to remember things that are this low-level, i don't know what you would become a traditionalist, evolian or otherwise. and if you don't understand these two then what are you doing researching spirituality unless as a pass-time?

>> No.20113543

>>20113540
It has nothing to do with remembering.

>> No.20113554

>>20113501
how bored are you, npc?

>>20113513
Evola is better.

>> No.20113567

>>20113543
ya right, it's called reading and not being retarded

>> No.20113570

>>20113567
The picture touched a nerve huh.

>> No.20113571

>>20113554
Why is Evola better on Tantra when he never read the source texts in their language and he is just regurgitating what he read from Arthur Avalon and others? He wasnt initiated into Tantra either

>> No.20113584

>>20113570
no, why would it? it's a bunch of beginner-tier terms and some idiot leftist who can't keep track of them or understand them all

>> No.20113592

>>20113584
Still missing the point lmao

>> No.20113601

>>20113571
>Why is Evola better on Tantra
idk, why? you came to a thread about evola to post some possible jew and talk about tantra, not about evola. sorry if you've only read one book of his.

>> No.20113605

>>20111175
I have to say Evola is dangerous and so are the Traditionalists like Guénon - more so the people who discuss them online, I have been reading them, and recently I decided to start "discussing" them online - bad mistake. I never fail to get into contact with schizophrenics, autists - I am beyond believing in such arbitrary surface level pseudo-psychological abstractions, whenever I talk to these guys we always disagree and they are very very serious... I almost feel like there is something non-human something, malefic about these self-proclaimed online Traditionalists, especially when you come to point that >its is all real and that if properly understood this stuff could change the west, and seriously is both life-changing and on not just some abstract "metaphysical" level, but truly interacts with your very existence, your soul, I have come to figure out that this stuff is no laughing matter - that you should trust no discussion on these subjects online, you should recommend nothing of it to anyone, I believe that some people who study such things and who discuss them online, try to entangle others in such things - they are essentialy the vehicle of some demonic, some Titanic, some ashuric force and they are essentialy using their time attempting to harvest souls and spiritually entangle people, confuse them muddle their minds, destroy them. The way it is all discussed is almost spiritually consumeristic, the way they talk is like they are channeling something and consciously willing such a channeling, i doubt that they are all sincere, trust nothing trust noone online, read only whatever scripture pertains to your religion and pray unceasingly, Avoid larping "guenonians" "evolians" "schuonians" etc. All the rest they are all the same, this stuff is all real these people are not merely autistic or schizophrenic they are acting as vehicles for supra-human entities. Stop studying looking into this stuff before it is too late for you, or one of these influences seize upon your soul, words online, the words themselves are entities.....

"In any case, everything that is discussion and controversy is of a purely profane spirit. " -Letter (II) Guénon to Evola

>> No.20113612

>>20113592
>t. retard posting the irrelevant meme
thanks for the laugh. nobody cares about your low iq point, subhuman redditard. go take your hormones.

>> No.20113629

>>20113605
I sincerely regret recommending these authors haphazardly online, funnily enough when I was first getting into them this is the time I'd recommend them, it was a sort of egoistic, vain self-adulation grounded in nothing, I hope I did not destroy the life of anyone who maybe took up the suggestion to read these texts, or who I encouraged this sort of esotericism too, the internet has opened the floodgates to so much good and so much bad.

>> No.20113661

>>20113605
AHHHHHH DEMONS IM GOING INSANE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.20113669

>>20113612
kek, absolutely seething
you will never be a real initiate

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>>20111175
You can doubt me but I'm completely serious :''(((((( I am being haunted!

>> No.20113703

>>20113669
"Self-initiation" is possible but requires Divine intervention, many such cases of initiation through Al-Khidr how do you think lineages begin? There is some third-way, however it is not voluntarily accessible - so you can't recommend something which can only be involuntarily attained.

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Everyone in this thread is an agent of the counter-initiation, if "Traditionalism" is true than why wouldn't agents of counter-initiation infiltrate here - don't you understand the gravity of the situation? This is no laughing matter!

>> No.20113733

>>20113629
It's true Evola is dangerous to read for normies with no exposure to this kind of thing. Radical anti-liberalism/anti-modernity stuff is mindbreaking.

>> No.20113878

>>20111175
De Giorgio >>> Evola

>> No.20113880

>>20113878
When is some Italian going to translate his work? I dont wanna wait

>> No.20113975 [DELETED] 

>>20113880
There is much more to Guido de Giorgio than we know, he was treated as a true peer by Guénon, whereas Evola was looked down to like an inferior of sorts.


>In Cammino del Cinabro, Julius Evola describes Guido de Giorgio.

He was a type of initiate in the wild and chaotic state, he had lived among the Arabs and personally knew Guenon, who held him in high esteem. He was a man of exceptional culture, he knew several languages, but he had a rather unstable temperament and strong passionate positions, emotive and lyrical almost like Nietzsche.

>Evola goes on to describe de Giorgio’s erratic personal and love life, his strong personality, then describes their collaborations and even trips together to the Alps. (They both loved the mountains.) Evola conceded that towards the end, they grew apart somewhat due to de Giorgio’s “indulgence in a sort of Vedanta-ized Christianity”. (Apparently, Evola was unaware of La Tradizione romana, which was never published during his lifetime.)

To me it seems like Evolas downfall was his maybe internalised or repressed hatred for Abrahamism in general, maybe a sort discounting of it, you can feel a sort of wanting to abolish these religions in Evolas writings, as if they were inadequate, it's no coincide that his writings inspire the average anti-Christians /pol/ neo-pagan of today, whereas Guénon and De Giorgio didn't make such distinctions and rather were thinking from the more Traditional esoterisist perspective.

I could be totally wrong though.

>> No.20114001

>>20111224
so THIS is the power of the warrior caste

>> No.20114095

>>20113605
i dont know if evola has ever done anyone any good but guenon has helped lead people to religion so i dont think he’s so dangerous

>> No.20114098

>>20111207
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>> No.20114106

>>20113605
>t. seething that he is unable to contemplate Kalki

>> No.20114338

>>20114095
Maybe you misinterpreted me - the authors are not self-sufficiently dangerous, more so I am referring to those who discuss them, and the people who interpret their texts in a special fashion.

>> No.20114345

>>20114106
I don't understand what you mean, personally I have no problem with the authors, but there is a sort of obvious observable psychic damage present in the people who "discuss" these subjects, I am not seething in the slightest rather it is perhaps an expected or inevitable thing, however it is disheartening to witness such an effect produced in people.

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>>20111224
holy based, muh fistfight amerimutts btfo, bring back duells

>> No.20114972

>>20114364
absolutely based film

>> No.20115023

>>20111175
2deep4me

>> No.20115081

>>20111175
>Defending rape
>based
Literally Marquis de Sade tier.

>> No.20115422

>>20113059
Thanks for the recommendation friend, will check out.

>> No.20115640

>>20113605
>he decided to read evola before the other traditionalists
>he thinks evola is a traditionalist
not gonna make it

>> No.20116292 [DELETED] 

>>20115640
Even guénon liked his revolt, de giorgio is a written like a true peer of guénon in their correspondences, while evola is arguably treated as more of a lesser or disciple, evola makes errors but undeniably he is a "Traditionalist" in the sense that he tried to be and was inspired by guénon. Cope - read the older letters between Guénon and Evola, where they talk about counter-initiations, and such things there is clearly some relation between Evola and the Traditionalist school. You simply have a bias against Evola because you probably dislike alot of the pseud sounding stuff he writes, and the obvious repressed - comes to the surface anti-traditional in the sense of abrahamism perspective. Well of course evola is more of a secondary author, I read guénon before I started evola, and sure metaphysically more or less he is lesser, but he is definitely a perennialist, I would say his attempts at comparative religion qualify him, regardless the "Traditionalist" label is rather worthless.
No idea why you're so obsessed though - since they're both long dead.

>> No.20116295

>>20115640

Even guénon liked his revolt, de giorgio is written to like a true peer of guénon in their correspondences, while evola is arguably treated as more of a lesser or disciple, evola makes errors but undeniably he is a "Traditionalist" in the sense that he tried to be and was inspired by guénon. Cope - read the older letters between Guénon and Evola, where they talk about counter-initiations, and such things there is clearly some relation between Evola and the Traditionalist school. You simply have a bias against Evola because you probably dislike alot of the pseud sounding stuff he writes, and the obvious repressed - comes to the surface anti-traditional in the sense of abrahamism perspective. Well of course evola is more of a secondary author, I read guénon before I started evola, and sure metaphysically more or less he is lesser, but he is definitely a perennialist, I would say his attempts at comparative religion qualify him, regardless the "Traditionalist" label is rather worthless.
No idea why you're so obsessed though - since they're both long dead.

>> No.20116301

>>20116295
Early evola vs late evola is worth distinction, the letters prove as much - evola was an inarguably "intelligent" author, I don't know why you try to discredit him again and again, evola may not be a guénon but each of those authors have their respective qualities, evola though was not unrelated to whatever you want to call that intellectual movement of the past - inarguably.

>> No.20116315

>>20113880
Probably never, de giorigio uses too many archaisms, they'd have to provide an interlinear translation and explain the specific uses of language, I would guess that effort is why his work is still untranslated.

>> No.20116422

Magic isn't real. You can't fly or shoot fire balls you fucking manchildren. This is Tik Tok witches tier.

Inb4
>"N,no, it's magical metaphysics, which is just t-too deep for you."
Read a book on how to do something real, like fix a car, carry out terrorism, milk a prostate, etc. Useful stuff.

>> No.20116660

>>20112694
antifa evola???

>> No.20116664

>>20116422
> feels over reals
> (level 34 Aryan mage)

>> No.20116676

>>20111207
NEVER FORGET WHAT THEY TOOK FROM YOU WESTERN MAN

>> No.20116686

>>20116660
superfa evola

>> No.20116706

>>20116295
it is like (you?) saying "guénon did not hate evola" lol, it doesn't mean anything.

in order to discuss evola's traditionalism we should compare him with the pioneers in that 'school': ananda, guénon, schuon and titus. then we have another set of authors that revolved around these.

the point then should be: is evola consonant with those authors? i would challenge anyone that claims he is. especially given his interest in magick, his anti-christianity and so on.

another point that could be raised: do other traditionalists that came later quote him or consider him as influence? whittal perry, nasr, sherrard, stoddart, hani, borella, wolfgang smith, rama coomaraswamy et al. you do not see anyone associating with evola, and don't tell me it was because of his 'political views'. it is his focus on politics one of the features that distinguishes him from the other traditionalists.

>> No.20116752

in some books guénon explicitly calls any magician a charlatan. are you telling me evola was not a magician?

or that doesn't apply to evola since they exchanged letters?

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>>20116706
Seyyed Hossein Nasrcalls Evola a crypto-traditionalist:

“Although Zolla no longer associated with Julius Evola, he nevertheless arranged for me to meet Italy’s most famous crypto-traditionalist writer who was a very controversial figure because of his espousal of the cause of Mussolini during the Second World War. I had already read some of Evola’s works, many of which are now being translated into English and are attracting some attention in philosophical circles. But based on the image I had of him as an expositor of traditional doctrines including Yoga, I was surprised to see him, now crippled as a result of a bomb explosion in 1945, living in the center of Rome in a large old apartment which was severe and fairly dark and without works of traditional art which I had expected to see around him. He had piercing eyes and gazed directly at me as we spoke about knightly initiation, myths and symbols of ancient Persia, traditional alchemy and Hermeticism and similar subjects. While he extolled the ancient Romans and their virtues, he spoke pejoratively about his contemporary Italians. When I asked him what happened to those Roman virtues, he said they traveled north to Germany and we were left with Italian waiters singing o sole mio! He also seemed to have little knowledge or interest in esoteric Christianity and refuse to acknowledge the presence of a sapiental current in Christianity. It was surprising for me to see an Italian sitting a few minutes from the Vatican, with his immense knowledge of various esoteric philosophies from the Greek to the Indian, being so impervious to the inner realities of the tradition so close to his home.” – Seyyed Hossein Nasr, “An Intellectual Autobiography,” The Philosophy of Seyyed Hossein Nasr. p. 68.

Julius Evolawas an Italian Traditionalist influenced by Guénon but from whom he departed on many points, which does not allow him to be assimilated to the Guénonian-Schuonian Traditionalist School.

In the Guénonian-Schuonian Traditionalist sense no, but this school does not have a monopoly on the label - rather Evola is a a radical Traitionalist, the school does not have a monopoly in the sense that no ideas are new ideas, and that the seeds of Traditionalism and the "Primordial tradition" are present in even authors like Thomas Aquinas - who may be deemed in some form a Traditionalist, you are getting caught up in labels in the same way the "History of Philosophy" academics get caught up in their subject from the position of profane historical materialism. But - yeah sit here debating labels - a task truly befitting those of lower intellectual function.

Pseud.

>> No.20116888

>>20111764
It's fake.

>> No.20116895

>>20111207
The ruling class using depraved sex acts for initiation and to keep control of their sekret clubs, pretty spot on i’d say.

>> No.20116896

>>20116886
>>20116706
Seyyed Hossein Nasr, not only Read Evola but called him an "Expositor of the traditional doctrines" evola is very popular and well read, just as even you have some sort of influence on me by this minor communication the same for Evola and those who read and corresponded with him.

You are a joke - and probably more fit to the vocation of a bibliographer, etc.

>> No.20116900

>>20116706
You should be utterly embarrassed and humiliated.

>> No.20116908 [DELETED] 

>>20116900
Look how you list all those authors without capitalisation pretending like it's off the cuff, such arrogance, while evidently having read probably a minority of their work - as I said you will probably be more fit to the tasks of a bibliographer or (((historian))) in the profane modern sense, nonetheless you're a pathetic pathetic pseud.

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>>20116706

Look how you list all those authors without capitalisation pretending like it's off the cuff, such arrogance, while evidently having read probably a minority of their work - as I said you will probably be more fit to the tasks of a bibliographer or (((historian))) in the profane modern sense, nonetheless you're a pathetic pathetic pseud.

Pic related is you.

>> No.20116923

>>20116886
>It was surprising for me to see an Italian sitting a few minutes from the Vatican, with his immense knowledge of various esoteric philosophies from the Greek to the Indian, being so impervious to the inner realities of the tradition so close to his home
> in a large old apartment which was severe and fairly dark and without works of traditional art which I had expected to see around him

you can see Nasr is criticizing him

>Pseud.
post bookshelf

>>20116896
>>20116900
>>20116908
>>20116914
cope harder. why don't you address this >>20116752

you are reading now stuff that i have been mentioning. stuff you had no previous knowledge of and you call me a 'pseud'. you started reading the letters because of what i said, now you are reading nasr's commentary on evola. you are a blog reader.

you have already embarassed yourself by claiming to be a traditionalist and caring about 'race' and 'politics'. the least you can do is close the computer and open the books. this time not by evola but ACTUAL traditionalists.

>> No.20116936

>>20116886
>>20116896
>>20116900
>>20116908
>>20116914
the amount of seething by this evolian is laughable. you are mad i attack your dark academia professor. do you think you are an anime villain? a wizard from slytherin? grow the fuck up. 'muh occult', 'muh esoterica', 'muh magick'

your brain is rotting from all the time you have spent on /pol/ with their hystericism that clearly contaminated you. stop trying to defend your dark academia professor and read more guénon – who would have called evola a charlatan.

>> No.20116941

>>20116923
Who is (you) I don't know you, and you don't know me I don't know who you are talking about,

But I know that the only reason you are so against Evola is because you understand that his works are tainted with would you would consider counter-initiatory anti-abrahamism, which is against your larping christo-sufi abrahamic perspective - or whatever it is that you subscribe too.


Post bookshelf- truly embarrassing a request befitting a material and letter oriented stooge.

Caring about "race" and "politics" while these things are contingent, they shouldn't be separated from metaphysical principles, you don't need to jump through all these hoops - I fully understand why you are so belligerent - and why you are taking so much offence.

I have not embarrassed myself in any respect, again and again you prove yourself to be more so of the bibliographers disposition caught up in semantics, it is quite entertaining.

>> No.20116945

>>20116936
>>20116923
"He had piercing eyes and gazed directly at me as we spoke about knightly initiation, myths and symbols of ancient Persia, traditional alchemy and Hermeticism and similar subjects. While he extolled the ancient Romans and their virtues"

"Expositor of traditional doctrines"

Cope you have been destroyed.

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>>20116923
>you can see Nasr is criticizing him

Holy cope. Oh no dark apartment! Oh no he is not pro-christisn estorecism crypto-jew Hebrew Kabbalah.

Holy Cope.

It's you who can't get past your early childhood "Religous" indoctrination of the special kind.

>> No.20116954

>>20116936
You never responded to my talk about, what Traditionalist means, the varies distinctions between the types of Traditionalists e.g guenonian-schuonian aswell as radical.

The reason you think I am "learning" something is because you are autistic, I am not whoever you think you are following through threads. You are unstable and schizophrenic.

>> No.20116959

>>20116941
>>20116945
>>20116950
it is only a shame i don't have the guenonian quotes against magic, which evola practiced

i dont need to prove you anything (about evola being anti-traditional), that is well known in traditionalist circles and guénon's descriptions of counter initiation suffice. what i was trying to do was incentivize you to read the actual traditionalists instead of going for the lowest hanging fruit, which is never wise.

your ape-like infra-human status as a pol shitter make you repeat always the same thing "cope, cuck, jew, kys, nigger" which is obviously far from traditionalism and you should be ashamed for that.

how old are you? if you dont mind

>> No.20116963

>>20116959
18

>> No.20116964

>>20116959
I have read Guénon and the degenerate qualities he ascribed to magic, how it is of the inferior order - similar in this respect to divination.

You have still responded to nothing.

>> No.20116973

>>20116959
Infra-human, schuonian loser

>"cope, cuck, jew, kys, nigger"

All I have said is cope, jew, I AM not whoever you think I am, I am new to these threads. Retard. How many times do I have to say it

>> No.20116976

>>20116959
>was trying to do was incentivize you to read the actual traditionalists instead of going for the lowest hanging fruit, which is never wise.

I read Dante only, and see it as a text of initiation you will not enticd me with your pseud modern "Traditionalists."

>> No.20116979

>>20116973
all /pol/ evolians are the same you can't blame me really

>>20116976
>I read Dante only,
good.

>> No.20116980

>>20116959
The cross needs the eagle, without it, it is impotent.

>> No.20116982

>>20116980
life is not a videogame, a race, a competition for who has more honor or strength. but you will realize that soon enough

>> No.20116986

>>20116982
I am done with 4channel anyway, full of gloating self-adulating pseuds who cannot take a joke - I have hardly derived anything of value.

Anyway kys jew cuck nigger.

>> No.20116988

>>20116986
And COPE.

>> No.20117002

>>20111207
Source? Genuinely interested.

>> No.20117018 [DELETED] 

>>20116936
>Do you think you are an anime villain? a wizard from slytherin? grow the fuck up. 'muh occult', 'muh esoterica', 'muh magick'

Since I have not left 4channel yet I will respond to this pitiable accusation.
Magick, esoterica, occult - total micharacterisation - I believe that sticking to one preferably orthodox tradition is necessary all I do is affirm Perennial wisdom and the primordial tradition in the same way evola does. Absolutely pathetic takes on your behalf, I don't expect anything less from a clear intellectual inferior - I have no interest in the (((Traditionalist circles))) you talked about before.

>> No.20117220

>>20111190
he would fuck up your favorite philosopher. He actually served in the army and walked out with a nuanced opinion on a war that wasn't entirely against it. It's clear he's not afraid of violence

>> No.20118228 [DELETED] 

>>20116886
>>20116896
>>20116896
Nasr also provided the introduction ("L'arte della transformazione spirituale interiore secondo Evola") to the current Italian edition of La Tradicion Hermetica.