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[Anonymous No.20038632]

Tintin edition
Previous >>20027397

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Reads related to honing the craft:
>pastebin.com/krJFfUfK (old reading list)
>pastebin.com/1KA24gny (new reading list)

Aditional related reads:
>pastebin.com/dXtFsTUh

Youtube playlist on storytelling:
>youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTCv6n1whoI23GmdBZienRW0Q0nFCU_ay

Self publishing websites:
>pastebin.com/zcKB1gN9

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/wg/ author pastebin + anon flash fiction anthology
>https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQ

Previous flash fiction anthologies
>archive.org/details/@_lit_anthology

[Anonymous No.20038656]

>>20038632
What would be the comfiest apocalypse? The kind where it would still be possible for people to keep shitposting on the internet as the world around them slowly dies?
See, when all hope is lost most people would look to their loved ones, to their friends and neighbors. But what of those whose only meaningful community is on the internet? They'd stay right there, by their computers, maybe watching out of the window as the heavens burned and the seas boiled. And they'd make frog memes about it all.
A quiet dignity in its own right.

[Anonymous No.20038657]

Post em.

[Anonymous No.20038666]

>>20038656
Probably something where oxygen just drops for no particular reason. Most people won't live long enough to realize what happened, they'll just get tired and take a forever nap

[Anonymous No.20038671]

I did this >>20038023 exercise. I came up a bit short on the word count but I don't think it matters too much. It was interesting and I caught myself using I a few times and had to backtrack and redo it. What I've written for the exercise isn't amazing, but I do like the idea of the old man just sitting at the bus stop to watch people, and these two women being examined and compared. It has things that could be taken further.

https://pastebin.com/ms81Y3Xv

I've done four more exercises from the book now and I find it quite enjoyable and it is getting me writing in a way I find difficult to do under my own steam, so that's good. I'd be interested to see how other anons tackle this exercise.

[Anonymous No.20038691]

>>20038671
Bretty good. It's pretty impressive what the constraints of a prompt can force you to write. You get an A for today.

[Anonymous No.20038719]

>>20038691
Thanks. I am pleased with what I have done. I think I have written about 2500 words today over the course of an hour or so and spread between 5 exercises. It felt good, I think, to sort of be free of myself, if that makes sense. By being constrained by the exercise it allowed me to be less critical of myself and simply set about the objective instead of being paralysed by the typical freedom of choice, blank page fear etc. I plan on doing all of the exercises from that book The 3AM Epiphany eventually. It seems constructive.

[Anonymous No.20038730]

>>20038657
Mad Max but Max has a cunny sidekick

[Anonymous No.20038738]

>>20038657
Jewish lad fucks a horse in the ass.

[Anonymous No.20038741]

>>20038656
I'm thinking maybe the world freezing over.

[Anonymous No.20038779]

>>20038741
Frostpunk, Snowpiercer and The Colony care to disagree

[Anonymous No.20038789]

>>20038779
Frostpunk is very cozy to me. Hear ye, hear ye!

[Anonymous No.20038818]

>>20038657
A cat and a giant woodlouse woken from dormancy accidentally solve the nation's coldest murder case. No gay retarded disney talking anthro shit, just a regular asshole cat and a 15 foot long skittering prehistoric parasite who befriend one another.

[Anonymous No.20038838]

I've written some 70k words worth of short stories. Do you think it's possible for an unknown author to get a collection of previously unpublished material out there?

[Anonymous No.20038857]

>>20038838
With that much in storage, sure. Split them into anthologies with 5 stories per book if they're similar in theme, or just release them with the same format slowly so each one has a bigger bed of initial audience

[Anonymous No.20038960]

>>20038789
Is Moby Dick frostpunk? I'm on the Nantucket chapter and I'm feeling cold even in my warm house

[Anonymous No.20038989]

>>20038960
Moby Dick is a different kind of cozy for me. Reading Moby Dick is like talking to an old friend, a friend you don't always agree with, I always argue with Ishmael's inaccurate views on cetacean biology in my head, as a sort of ritual.
But if you want to REALLY feel cold, read Jack London's To Build a Fire

https://americanenglish.state.gov/files/ae/resource_files/to-build-a-fire.pdf

[Anonymous No.20039009]

>>20038960
Frostpunk is the name of a videogame

[Anonymous No.20039022]

>>20038989
White fang was coldkino as well

[Anonymous No.20039030]

[Anonymous No.20039104]

>>20038657
walking into the bathroom right after your dad has taken a shit while smoking a cigar

[Anonymous No.20039325]

>Think you are not going to make your daily 1k word count.
>Shit out 1100 while also plugging plotholes.
Truly, fantasy is the vindaloo of the mental digestive tract.

[Anonymous No.20039342]

>>20038657
Dien Bien Phu on a colonial world. It's kinda like Dunkirk too, but the promised armored column never arrives, so most just die.

[Anonymous No.20039379]

>>20039104
Who's smoking, the dad or you

[Anonymous No.20039383]

>>20039379
lady's choice

[Anonymous No.20039641]

Besides it being chinese, is there a problem with webnovel? Why isn't it there on the self publish pastebin?

[Anonymous No.20039669]

>>20039641
notorious and infamous in the webnovel world for their shitty contracts designed to fuck you over specifically and poor ethnic by the company. just don't use them period.

[Anonymous No.20039723]

>>20038989
Spooky. I'll pass on the snow covered mountain meme now, thanks.

[Anonymous No.20039822]

>fantasy novel
>no humans, only fantasy races
thoughts?

[Anonymous No.20039824]

>>20039641
Because they write and /wg/ doesn’t. So it makes them seethe.

[Anonymous No.20039880]

>>20039822
Yes please

[Anonymous No.20039888]

>>20038730
That's my secret fantasy that I never tell anyone.

[Anonymous No.20039900]

>>20039888
I don't want it. Can you take it from me?

[Anonymous No.20039912]

>>20039822
that's already 1000x more creative than the average modern fantasy story

[Anonymous No.20039915]

>>20039824
/wg/ writes. We just don't read.

[Anonymous No.20039926]

>>20039915
>/wg/ writes
No, it doesn't. If it did, they wouldn't seethe at webnovels.

[Anonymous No.20039937]

>>20039669
Examples of this?

>>20039926
>seethe at webnovels.
I was talking about webnovel.com the site not webnovels in general.

[Anonymous No.20039951]

>>20039937
>Examples of this?
j7st do your research

[Anonymous No.20039952]

>>20039822
>there are humans but you gradually realize their biology is completely different from real life

[Anonymous No.20039992]

>>20038656
Pic tangentially related. It was a nice watch, shame the novels weren't completely translated.

[Anonymous No.20040042]

1/3
Night bus was filled with passengers, as if shared loneliness of environment was sweetness many people were unable to resist. Mark sat in last seat, rows of seats before him were all filled. Many people were standing and he knew he will have to push thise people aside and struggle to get out, as his bus stop was before town where most people were heading, nevertheless he decided on last seat, because he knew last seats are always most interesting. Door opened, pair of young women got on the bus, they carried heavy baggages which were blocked by legs of standing people, moved slowly by shy and cute sounding „excuse me”. They sat besides him and continued conversation, which was interupted periodically by slight laughter, and had tone of conversations often held by happy, young travellers. One of them reach over to her baggage, at the same time she moved towards him and touch his shoulder briefly with her arm. Happy chirping was growing louder, her gesticulations was more and more expressive, until she got excited so much, she was moving not only her hands but entire body, until her long blond hair were lashing him on his face. Arousal cumulated by that occurance caused him to move his elbow, which touched her by virtue of her body getting so close to him. She stopped her chirp and asked him.
- I am sorry, do i disturb you perhaps?
- No. If i may ask, where are you going from?
- We come back from Spain, where we studied philology for a while. You?
- I am going back from work.
- Where do you work?
- I am a programmer.
- Oh, interesting. It means you earn a lot?
- Not really. I am only beginning, i earn minimum.
- Amazing. So you choose minimum paying job just for getting experience, so you can earn more in the future? It means you are responsible and think about your future, you really impressed me right now!
- Thank you a lot for kind words. What is your occu…

[Anonymous No.20040046]

>>20040042
2/2
He did not finish the sentence, as the face with which he was talking dissapeared from his line of sight. which surprised him greatly. He looked left, right, then down, where she saw lightgold hairs and little hands working on his fly with great agility. After just a few seconds his member found its place in her mouth. First he felt embarassed and was afraid someone will see him, but he soon realized it was too dark in bus for other people to see anything. He just have to remain quiet. Her friend, bit plumpy but attractive brunette was sitting with eyes fixated on point somewhere far away, looking like she tries really hard to ignore whats happening. His member was bulging in her mouth fast, until he felt tip of it on her throat. While that happened she was completely silent, no sound that would signify psychological stress or purely mechanical sensation of gag reflex. When he felt, that end is near he grabbed by her hair, which was soft and silky in touch and push her down towards his member as embrace of pulsating, warm velvet consumed final fruit of his lust. Journey ended, bus stopped, Mark left. Girl drank water from plastic bottle to wash down rest of clogged semen, while brunette who already for minutes was looking at her with blank expression, asked:
- Maria, the fuck? Thats not how you meet people.
- Oh, dont talk like my mother, i know what i am doing. Now excuse me, but i need to go back to work.
And she left the bus on the next bus stop.

Maria was living in small hotel situated at feet of the mountains. Hotel had only few rooms, living there was quiet, and occupants were free to decorate living space in way they liked. She used that opportunity by buying large discotheque lamp that had few modes of operation. Light could be closed or open. In close mode lights of red, blue and green colour were projected through shapes of stars, suns and toy aeroplane, creating artificial skies of great complexity, moving image of relaxing qualities that gave pleasure to many customers. In open mode, light of lamp had one colour, and it was bright and overwhelming. She stared at light for several seconds, until her cheeks were covered in ice. Then she opened the closed and put on her pikachu costume. Costume had tiger-like fur on it, which made in non-canonical, but it covered more broad areas of fetishes that way and helped her to earn more money, which was more important for her than faitfulness to some cartoon. She turned on the camera, opened the website and waited until chatroom was full of people. Then she breathed heavily signifying attack of hysteria, verge of nervous breakdown, then whispered to microphone in whining tone of voice she spend so long perfecting: „You will never guess what happened to me today!”.

[Anonymous No.20040055]

>>20039900
Why don't you want it? It's good to know the truth.

[Anonymous No.20040108]

>>20040042
>>20040046
That's actually really fucking good. You shocked me a bit with the turn in the second part. You are clearly an ESL though and your command of the English language is not good enough for what you are trying to do. Whilst reading it I basically had to filter your poor English to understand it. That said, I still think what you've done has shown excellent storytelling and linguistic abilities, the pacing was really quite excellent, the turns happened at the right places. Yeah, cool. But you should either write in your own language or get much better at English.

[Anonymous No.20040123]

>>20038730
Mad Max but Max is a young lad and has an oneesan sidekick

[Anonymous No.20040138]

>>20040108
Yea, i spend last hour and half on translating it from my language. Any idea how to get better in writing in english? I already read all ebooks in english, obviously spend most of my time on 4chan or watching movies with english subs. I have trouble finding anything english that i struggle to read (except <19th century english literature), but seems writing is entirely different skillset. Maybe i will continue to write in polish, then translate it for you, and maybe it will get better

[Anonymous No.20040147]

>>20040042
>>20040046
comfy. i like comfy strangers on trains stories.

[Anonymous No.20040153]

>>20040138
I'd say stick to polish. It's your native language, the writing will sound better in it. You can always hire a translator.

[Anonymous No.20040159]

>>20040138
>Any idea how to get better in writing in english?
pay attention to the particles, first off. english is a language in which improper use of particles and prepositions is a dead giveaway of ESL status. i'd say a good way to learn, unironically, would be to slow down when posting on 4chan. use every post you make as an opportunity to write perfect english sentences. do it for yourself, and because it's practice. don't do it for anyone else.

[Anonymous No.20040164]

>>20038730
Mad Max but Max is a dog

[Anonymous No.20040172]

>>20040138
haha Polish! I find that so funny, when I read your piece at first I thought "Why is he not using 'the'" I thought you were doing an oulipo piece! Then I realised you were ESL and it reminded of all the Polish people I've ever met because they fuck up in the exact same way, they skip 'the' and 'an' and the little grammatical bits (articles?) in the middle of sentences like you.

As for getting better? Fuck knows. You might even know more about English than I do on a technical level, I just feel it. I would really say just write in Polish.

[Anonymous No.20040238]

>>20039030
>all that effort
>20 followers
>i hope they dont try and meerkat my book

[Anonymous No.20040268]

thank you for advices. Translation was written pretty quickly, as i had break from writing for a long time, and wanted to "test waters", see if there is interest in story. Hiring translator seems like good idea too, maybe i will do it, if i manage to finish story, or write more of them, then i will post something. That was all handwritten first, as its easier for me (no distraction), then i typed it on computer and translated it. I feel that mode of working may introduce disrepancies between version, for example there will be things written in english version that are not in polish. Ehhh, hard life of ESL

[Anonymous No.20040272]

>>20040123
Does she milk him with her curvy body every night?

[Anonymous No.20040290]

>>20040272
More or less
Also I specifically avoided using the term shota, more like 14-19 years old

[Anonymous No.20040364]

>>20040290
My question stands. Young boys must be regularly milked by their oneesans. It isn't healthy for them to build up so much.

[Anonymous No.20040568]

>>20038730
Fuck, I was actually thinking of doing this as a far-distant prequel in my series. It's a little cliche but she ends up dying Misato-style so that he lives and ensures humanity's future with his distant descendants.

[Anonymous No.20040576]

>>20040568
meant to quote the other one with the oneesan but w/e, could work both ways I guess

[Anonymous No.20040608]

>>20038730
>>20040568
People love the found father/lonely little girl duo. All you have to do is to not write obviously pedo bait because pedos will bite into anything that has a man with a young girl so you write for every other demographic that might've not be interested in the first place.

[editard No.20040632]

>>20040042
>>20040046
>>20040138
i intended to only edit grammar, but some of what you wrote needed rewriting. i otherwise tried to keep your tone as much as i could. definitely comfy/steamy. nerds here love this stuff.

[Anonymous No.20040832]

how does one create a magic system? If I really wanted to milk the potential earnings off a story for royalroad I'd do well do have a magic system. I've got a good plot, world, and characters so far; all that's missing is a magic system.

[Anonymous No.20040840]

>>20040632
thank you a lot i love it!
>His member bulged into her mouth mouth
I wrote "bulging", as i tried to invoke feeling of thing becoming bigger and bigger as it was happening, not in past sense.
>what would you like to work---
It means "what do you want to do in future"? But i assume it can be used as "what are you trying to become in future" or something like that? I am not sure, how would this entire sentence look like?
I meant her face was covered with tears from staring at light, not ice. Maybe in future version i will incorporate self-harming with BDSM like whips in order to lie about being raped.

[Anonymous No.20040852]

>>20036541
anyone got a pdf of this? can't find it on libgen

[Anonymous No.20040869]

>>20040852
I have an azw3 file. I got it from libgen a few months ago, they must have deleted it.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/076yss4jkekdya4/3_AM_Epiphany_-_Brian_Kiteley.azw3/file

[Anonymous No.20040915]

>>20038838
no. if you have that many stories, at least one of them should have been good enough to be published on its own

[Anonymous No.20041023]

Tweaked this a little bit since last thread, anyone willing to give this a read?
>Haruki Murakami rip-off where a schoolgirl shoots a policeman

https://pastebin.com/RyfZb0sf

[editard No.20041029]

>>20040840
>I wrote "bulging". . .
hm. "engorging" would be accurate but i wouldn't use it. "He felt himself growing in her mouth until he reached the back of her throat" maybe.
>It means "what do you want to do in future"?. . .
since maria just said she's back from being a student, mark would assume she doesn't have a job, right? so i think a more natural question would be asking her what she wants to do.
>I meant her face was covered with tears from staring at light, not ice
I figured it was something like this.
also
>hotel
i see the word hotel is the same in english and polish. how's this hotel work? like a long-term stay type of place? why not an apartment?

i'm the type who'd like it if she returned to the bus trying to find mark again, but it's your work, write what you want.

[Anonymous No.20041032]

>>20038632
My IQ is only 118. What point is there in a midwit such as I writing for other such middling pontificators?

[Anonymous No.20041047]

>>20041032
If you care about IQ you're not gonna make it anyways. Give up and pick up some other hobby.

[Anonymous No.20041061]

>>20041047
Gonna make it? What is this you speak of? Why would I want to "make it"? I wanted to dazzle the literati and lampoon the social system with a swirling, eddying Charybdis of literary potential. Alas, I am too meek and soft of mind to pull it off. Like Elpenor, I must be forgotten and left to the wayside, if only remembered as part of the epic of /wg/, that stupendous oral tradition of 4chan's bookish progeny.

[Anonymous No.20041111]

>>20041061
Yeah with that attitude you're definitely NGMI. Might I suggest just writing

[Anonymous No.20041141]

>>20040832
elemental or not.
spirit pacts or not.
book learning or not.
ideally it should be simple at its most basic level and scalable in complexity

[Anonymous No.20041147]

>>20041061
>I wanted to dazzle the literati and lampoon the social system with a swirling, eddying Charybdis of literary potential.
sounds like the dreams of a midwit

[Anonymous No.20041150]

>>20040832
Absolutely no magic system and it's just a way of life. Everyone can use magic but talent makes some people have better magic than others.

[Anonymous No.20041273]

>>20041111
>Might I suggest just writing
But how can I be writing without the literary stars aligned? I've been much maligned by my sighting. The sighting of a dark, villainous planet. Up to the ramparts. Can I man it? I only let out dolorous farts...
>>20041147
Aye, that. You could scry my scat. And only find my intellectual fat.

[Anonymous No.20041464]

>>20038730
Mad Max but Max is actually mad and it's all in his head

[Anonymous No.20041466]

>>20041023
Not tonight, but I'm glad you polished your work!

[Anonymous No.20041473]

>>20040608
But what if the point of Mad Max cunny road is asking how much of our morals comes from fear of punishment?

[Anonymous No.20041523]

i don't know why I find it funny, but I kind of want to include a character in my story who is very obviously trans in some way, but it's completely ambiguous to the reader and the pov character whether they're mtf or ftm, and every time the pov character tries to figure it out the situation is made even more confusing

[Anonymous No.20041537]

>>20041523
Read Wasp Factory ;)

[Anonymous No.20041549]

>>20041523
So.... an enbie character? And have their bio sex be the joke?

[Anonymous No.20041589]

What do you do when you already hit the daily word goal? I might take a reading break but I might try double it later.

[Anonymous No.20041597]

>>20038657
Book about a guy with a huge dick who fucks hot broads all day. It's my autobiography btw

[Anonymous No.20041610]

>>20041589
Continue if you're within your time limitfor it and arent too tired

[Anonymous No.20041613]

>>20041023
Why would I want to read something you're already telling me is a rip off?

[Anonymous No.20041620]

>>20041549
sounds like it
giwtwm

[Anonymous No.20041624]

>>20038632
So fellow Anons, lately I've been wondering something, and maybe some of you folks have a good idea or some experience on this dilemma.

Basically, I am debating whether or not to stop going to my weekly writing workshop. I like the social aspect of it, but good god is it sometimes just miserable going there.

• Full of SJW/Liberal/Progressive types. I literally got a critique how I needed to make my character a gay black dude to meet a diversity quota, and I laughed in her face.
• I am a board member. Our leader is fucking spineless when drama goes down.
• The vice president is a mid-life crisis, pretentious vegan faggot going through a Buddhist phase while he writes the next YA novel.

Mostly I am unable to get the critique I need. My work is 300K words at this point, and contains extensive worldbuilding necessary to understand the universe and these retards are literally unable to get past the fact that certain things that are patently obvious to friends outside of the group (e.g., that a certain acronym is money based on the fact people are haggling over a firearm's price), so they bitch and moan for the minute and a half each person talks before they repeat the same thing five or six times because most of the people cannot think for themselves. I am willing to admit that I am the conceited one and that I need to apply their critiques, and I have, but honestly, I think I can do better than this from the things places like 4chan and its recommended reads and seminars/YouTube lectures and such, could provide? Does anybody have experience with this, or is this how most writer's workshops are? I don't really find myself enjoying the idea driving halfway across town to sit in an old church for three hours for twenty minutes of read and ten minutes critique time in small groups. Even the virtual option is not particularly fun.

The only benefit I see at this point is that If I do stay, I can get connections to the publishing industry. The leader of the group knows many agents and will put in a good word, and others have stated they would as well, but I am very far from that. Maybe I just bring them simpler works?

[Anonymous No.20041653]

>>20041549
they're not non-binary, they're just closeted and hiding it really badly which makes the whole thing more confusing

like, they look like a girl and wear a dress but use a male name and he/him pronouns. however, whenever the subject of them being trans comes up they get extremely defensive and insist that they're not trans, but also refuse to elaborate what their deal actually is. if the pov character tries to question further the the other characters chew him out over it so he stops trying to ask. the other characters know the truth, but the trans character doesn't know they know, and the supporting cast humors them, and refuses to tell the MC whether the male name they use is their live name or the dead name because it's really funny to see they confused

[Anonymous No.20041656]

>>20041624
Continue your original work and split it into a secondary universe on the side for your classes. Every week, take note from your less desirable classmate's behaviors and find out what really get's them riled up. Develop scenarios or character arcs/quirks that'll trigger them, either individually or collectively, when asked to critique it.

Post results next week.

[Anonymous No.20041675]

>>20041624
300k words is a lot. A writing group simply won't have the time or patience to do it justice. My best recommendation - I assume you haven't really edited it yet because it sounds like you're still drafting - start releasing edited chapters on some site like royal road. What site you use depends on your genre. Do this to try and get some feedback - and use the time to go back and edit. You can always delete the work from the site if you want.

If you're at 300k now, how many pages do you think its going to go?

[Anonymous No.20041688]

>>20041624
>Maybe I just bring them simpler works?
I don't see why your universe or "worldbuilding" would detract from the reading experience unless you're infodumping and being autistic, which would be an obvious critique on the part of these cretins. If you are infodumping, just learn how to "show" these aspects without being didactic.
>The vice president is a mid-life crisis, pretentious vegan faggot going through a Buddhist phase while he writes the next YA novel.
I knew a guy exactly like this. I suggest just cutting off ties with the group if he's anything like the dude I knew. Is he old or just seems like a batshit late twenty something? I wouldn't hang out with the kind of person that goes like that anyway... Just find lit buds via other writing groups. My town has almost two dozen of them, and I think most of them are still running most months.

[Anonymous No.20041697]

>>20041675
450K I suspect. There are four books, each of ~100K words, with a small time gap between each of the books at a logical stopping point (such as where minutia would be brought in excessively to make it seamless). So the first book happened, and the time between the next book and the first was three years to drive the plot. The next book will have a one year gap, and the next one I think will have a two year gap.

How popular is Royal Road? What can you tell me about it from your experience?

[Anonymous No.20041735]

>>20038657
pige

[Anonymous No.20041745]

>>20041688
Some places have info dumping, and the3se are getting edited out because I want to make sure the plot is being driven without ruining the retro futuristic 80's feel I want. Otherwise, it generally doesn't bother them too much, the dialogue is where much of the story comes in, I guess.

>I suggest just cutting off ties with the group if he's anything like the dude I knew. Is he old or just seems like a batshit late twenty something?

He's like 42 and has three kids. Classic liberal dipshit. Problem with this cunt is that he LOVES to dominate and take over everything because he is clearly the smartest among us, even to the point where he starts interrupting and talking over the leader at board meetings, and I have to actually be the only one with a set of balls and put him back in his place and remind him not to interrupt a person when speaking.

>Just find lit buds via other writing groups.

I wish I could find a more lit writing group. There's like five guys in the group that are decent and have funny stories that end up trolling a lot of the SJW cunts. Problem is my city is pretty liberal (most of the population thinks our homeless problem can be solved by giving them free money and letting them stay in tents in parking lots, or in unused apartments, and that homeless are just down on their luck and would never steal or hurt them in any way).

I think What I really want is another format. The whole read and get barked at is annoying and frankly, tiresome. I'd rather drop my work for submission and have twenty people eviscerate it over a discord channel and DM me their responses and comments, or something like that. I don't get anything like that. Hell, I'm lucky if I get two DMs a week on the groups Discord channel for my work. Everybody says their piece and forgets it.

[Anonymous No.20041808]

>>20041624
>I laughed in her face
Good man
Honestly the rest of that sounds like a total shitshow, including your 300k word draft. Either split it into multiple books or cut it down my man. Somehow I doubt any of those retards have connections you want either way, so if I were you I'd leave.

[Anonymous No.20041817]

>>20041697
royal road is popular, it also allows discoverability of new works which is a huge, huge plus. the problem may be the the average feedback you get from a reader is: Thanks for the chapter. The benefit is you can direct people who you want more detailed feedback from to your posted work. given that you are splitting your existing work into multiple book already here's how you should go about things in order to make money.
1. edit the hell out of your first book. polish polish polish
2. start a patreon and publish on rr. 1 chapter like twice a week. give patreons advanced chapters.
3. when your first book is complete start posting the 2nd. then pull the first book off and throw that on kindle unlimited.
4. repeat these steps for the remaining books.
3.

[Anonymous No.20041821]

>>20041817
>then pull the first book off and throw that on kindle unlimited
You should watch out because RR is starting to crack down on that. You can find a few fags complaining about getting rejected for new books on their forums because they intended to pull it down at some point.

[Anonymous No.20041829]

>>20041821
I'd still say go ahead and do it unless you have a huge patreon following. the kindle audience dwarfs the rr one - even though rr is totally free normalfags don't know how to search the internet

[Anonymous No.20041839]

>>20041023
I actually quite liked it. I thought some of your transitions felt a bit off.
> There really, truly is nothing to do in this town.
For example feels weird because it seems like she’s going to begin talking about something else but she goes back to talking about Obata.
Some of your dialogue could also use some cleaning up.
> Also, can you get me some tea?
Doesn’t feel like a real response. Overall very neat, though. I think you’re off to a good start.
Which Sukeban Deka series is that?

[Anonymous No.20041843]

>>20041589
Read or play vidya. I try and take a break from writing.

[Anonymous No.20041851]

>>20041466
Thank you if you were one of the anons that read it.

>>20041613
I'm being self-deprecating and just to give a better idea of what "vibe" I was going for

>>20041839
Thank you for reading it and your comments, anon. And sorry to say, I have no idea, I just used the first picture of it I could find

[Anonymous No.20041865]

>>20041821
>>20041817
That would be my main concern. Right now exposure is my main goal, to be quite honest. I'd be happy if one million people merely read the work and I didn't make a cent. Hell, I'd post it to Library Genesis if it meant more /lit/fags read it. But what if it got popular and it had the potential for a kindle or publishing release. How does that work with Royal Road? Are they a roadblock to that? It sounds like, based on what you two anons mentioned, that RR gets a controlling interest in the distribution and transmission of the work after it is submitted, or at least is completed? That is somewhat concerning for me.

[Anonymous No.20041920]

>>20038632 here is a poem


American spirit is to be homesick
For the place which may no longer exist
I’ve seen it in movies, stories, and shows
Vikings, knights, and mountains where it snows
The mountains here are all cement and plastic
And I suppose it’s all rather fantastic
If you employ the right gymnastics
But I grow weary of cookie cutter cities
Sans stars, I am Ulyessus
Where are the stars?
Eaten by The Light it seems.
Where is Paris, Lebanon, and Saigon?
They’re all in Texas, though the latter respects us
On account of our distrust
Of their northern cousins
But now we are all above the ovens
Caught in the great mixing pot
Where culture is hot
Hot, muddled, scuttled, and troubled
It’s all a fraud, wearing the skin
I want this nightmare to end
I want to leave this American era
And to return to Eire
But as I scan the green Irish glen
I see the land is lacking in my kin
Only inhabited by Mohammed and Ngyuen.

[editard No.20041962]

>>20041865
>RR gets a controlling interest in the distribution and transmission of the work after it is submitted, or at least is completed?
no. read their terms.
the people whining probably said they were going to ditch RR when their work was done and RR was understandably not okay with that.

[Anonymous No.20041984]

>>20041821
you mean you can't take your work down even though you own the copyright?

[Anonymous No.20041991]

>>20041984
No they'll let you take it down, but apparently they'll just reject you for your next ones or if they think you're going to take it down for profit reasons. Again, you can search the forums for the couple of people who ended up bitching about this.

[Anonymous No.20041995]

>>20041745
>There's like five guys in the group that are decent and have funny stories that end up trolling a lot of the SJW cunts.
Why don't you start a small group off to the side with those guys? Is that possible?

[Anonymous No.20042002]

Let's say I wanted to put a story on tapas, how would you talk me out of it? Is it secretly a shitty site because everything I'm seeing on it makes it sound like a much better Royal Road if you write serial web fiction.

[Anonymous No.20042035]

Posting this again. It was originally banned by the mods for being too sexually graphic, but I managed to get it through. You need to read the first 5 chapters in your first sitting, or else you'll be confused.

Basically, a Floridian chef/student divorces his satanist wife and reality thence goes sideways. Think Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, except in the Everglades with a Native American Seminole.

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/41228/tears-of-god

[Anonymous No.20042053]

>>20039822
Walter Moers?

[Anonymous No.20042055]

>>20041991
can't you just leave the first few chapters up then take down the rest? or do they not like that either?

[Anonymous No.20042057]

>>20040915
How do stories you never send anywhere get published on their own?

[Anonymous No.20042063]

>>20042055
I dunno, the complaints are relatively recent so I'm not sure what their criteria is. They say "Royal Road is for web fiction which can be read for free.", whatever that means.

[Anonymous No.20042071]

>>20042002
someone answer this cause i'm interested too

[Anonymous No.20042074]

>>20042063
i looked on the forum, can't find what your talking about, link post please?

[Anonymous No.20042090]

What is the correct split for slice of life/action/drama for a fantasy novel?

[Anonymous No.20042093]

>>20041821
What if you just write a short story to promote your work, and you post that on rainbow road but your real stuff on Amazon?

[Anonymous No.20042102]

>>20042093
Try it

[Anonymous No.20042103]

>>20042074
I'll try to find it again but the search function on the site sucks.

[Anonymous No.20042121]

>>20042093
Here's one
https://www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/115444?page=1#pid1034263

[Anonymous No.20042147]

>>20042121
Well that's shit, simple work around though, just post it all there free, then springboard that shit later on.

[Anonymous No.20042153]

>>20042147
So long as you don't stub it they probably don't care much, but if you do it looks like they might get fussy with you when you want to post new shit.

[Anonymous No.20042154]

>>20042147
You're supposed to post a chapter or two, post your Patreon, then slowly leak out your other chapters and hope for the bucks to roll on in.

[Anonymous No.20042164]

>>20042153
just make a different account with a new alias or some crap
>>20042154
that level of drip fed jewery is so dumb, you end up paying many more times the value of a whole book after only like two or three months.

[Anonymous No.20042186]

Are there any resources for how to write a synopsis? I can't fucking do it to save my life and looking at what I've written makes me cringe.

[Anonymous No.20042188]

>>20042186
Same. My blurbs for the back of my book is shit

[Anonymous No.20042207]

>>20042188
I'd post my blurb but considering that even I think it's retarded and bad I can only imagine how hard it would get torn apart by other people.

[Anonymous No.20042212]

>>20042207
Getting torn to shit might be good for you and it will entertain me.

[Anonymous No.20042215]

>>20040832
Oh shit thanks anon!!! I'm the adah gag and you gave me the motivation for my villain! I was planning for a simple revenge villain plot, but now I have a better idea. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.20042232]

>>20042207
just do it, I'll post my shit here if you don't, even though it's just a draft for something and I haven't worked on it in a while

captcha:RXGAY

[Anonymous No.20042242]

>>20042212
>>20042232
>In the 22nd century, mankind's scientific knowledge has reached a breaking point. Genes can be spliced and coded with incredible precision. Machine intelligence can mimic human intelligence with frightening accuracy. Geopolitical tensions have never been higher, and a century of ethical degredation from mass media and psychological operations has left the nations of the world with no barriers to using the full power of their knowledge on destruction. Nations build armaments of every conceivable variety, stockpile them in secret, and await the glorious day of their use.
>By the 27th century the mankind of the 22nd century has long since been wiped out by its own creations and warlike nature. What remains of the Earth is fought over by the creations of the late mankind, biological and technological alike. Deep in the jungles of South America, an infiltration android is recalled to its base to be decommissioned, its function no longer required by its commander. As its "life" ends, its final thought is speculation about what it will experience if it is never activated again. Its next thought is confusion. A voice speaks to it, offering it a new mission. Its purpose is to serve, and so it accepts, even though it has its reservations. The voice offers assurances, the mission will be a success.
>In an unknown year, in an unknown place, a man awakens naked on a beach. He has a strange appearance, matched by an even stranger mind. Having memories of a previous life, an unknown landmark, and a task, he sets out to complete his work. After all, it is his purpose to be given tasks and to complete them. It has always been that way, and it always will be. There is no need to question why or how. It has been decided that the task must be completed, and it will be done by any means necessary.
I just copied it from the text doc and added >s. Pls no laff.
Yes this is the story about the man who thinks he's a killbot (or rather the killbot who becomes a man) that I posted about a few months ago. The synopsis is intended for Royal Road, maybe, but I'm having trouble deciding what site would fit the story best. It's more "mature" than the average story there in the sense that it isn't LitRPG level-up, instead being a story which is outwardly a series of murder sprees (with other stuff between them) with a lot of character development going on for the MC. In a sense it also has body horror as well as insanity in first person, but what the MC considers "sane" is quite different than a regular human being and the horror is heavily blunted by his reactions to it.
Basically none of that is in the synopsis though, it's supposed to just bait people into clicking so I can gradually shove them down the rabbit hole and eventually trick them into reading a story that has both very philosophical themes but is also still just about a guy who kills a lot of people because a voice in his head told him to (and then it stopped talking to him)

[Anonymous No.20042246]

>>20042242
>Genes can be spliced and coded with incredible precision. Machine intelligence can mimic human intelligence with frightening accuracy. Geopolitical tensions have never been higher, and a century of ethical degredation from mass media and psychological operations has left the nations of the world with no barriers to using the full power of their knowledge on destruction.

Just a note, but all of this stuff is happening... right now. CRISPR has improved significantly in just the past year and AI is already at this point. I don't see a reason why this needs to take place in the future

[Anonymous No.20042258]

>>20042246
>I don't see a reason why this needs to take place in the future
Because in the 2200s they use it for warfare and GMO an entire sub-species of soldiers, who them promptly wipe out baseline humanity and go to war with automated AI systems which were also being used for warfare. Also the giant war is sparked by a failed Alcubierre drive test which destabilizes the orbits of several asteroids in the asteroid belt and essentially dooms the Earth unless people get their shit together and fix it. They don't, because they're too busy blaming each other since nobody knows who did the test.
Also all of that is just backstory and has nothing to do with the present setting, it's revealed by the protagonist as he remembers it over the course of the story. It's actually the setting from another novel I worked on but swapped up a bit to fit this idea better. Exactly "when" the story happens is pretty much never said but it's like a billion years in the future on another planet entirely, don't worry about it, it's not important.

[Anonymous No.20042290]

>>20042246
>Genes can be spliced and coded with incredible precision.
nope.
>Machine intelligence can mimic human intelligence with frightening accuracy
nope.
>and a century of ethical degredation from mass media and psychological operations has left the nations of the world with no barriers to using the full power of their knowledge on destruction.
yup.
We just need to wait, maybe not the 22nd century, but better safe than sorry.

[Anonymous No.20042292]

>>20042258
>2200s
Jesus christ I just realized I typo'd 2100s. Fucking 2am posting

[Anonymous No.20042458]

I know this is nothing. I just did it off the cuff, but I like it and want to expand on it.

[Anonymous No.20042463]

>>20042458
whoops

[Anonymous No.20042469]

>>20042035
>You need to read the first 5 chapters in your first sitting, or else you'll be confused.
>it's filled with prose like
>Her blowjobs were still amateur-level at best. She was tragically aware of this. No amount of pornography or self-help literature seemed to be providing any improvement. She was able to give Nate powerful orgasms, but she knew her teeth were perhaps digging in too far.
this is just really fucking bad on every possible level. nobody else is going to tell it to you in this way, but it's genuinely terribly written. i don't care how many blowjobs you insert or how much you think you may be the next hunter S, it's just poorly written. exceptionally poorly written.

[Anonymous No.20042500]

Which of these does your story fall under? I've got Man vs God and Man vs No God both going on.

[Anonymous No.20042537]

>>20042035
>You need to read the first 5 chapters in your first sitting, or else you'll be confused.
Is this a fucking joke

[Anonymous No.20042542]

>>20038657
A walk to the shops turns into an unfortunate re-evaluation of reality by a slightly drunk person only capable of communicating in football banalities

[Anonymous No.20042546]

>>20042500
My story falls under all of these and if yours doesn't you're ngmi.

[editard No.20042562]

>>20042500
yes

[Anonymous No.20042563]

>>20040138
Try finding an English editor / co-writer who you trust and want to work with. I suggest this because, especially with kurwa Polish neglecting articles, and applying tense and ownership to nouns and so on, the result of organic translation creates unique phrasal structures that any native speaker would never find. I loved this stuff about Poland, especially after I learned the language a little. Don't fret about English too much, but get yourself someone you can work with that allows you control over translation

Dai mi buzi, kurwa

[Anonymous No.20042571]

>>20042546
Oh

[Anonymous No.20042596]

>>20042500
yeah same as the other anon
my story is just a series of existential crises

[Anonymous No.20042714]

>>20042035
Thanks, I'll report it for being erotica and get you banned

[Anonymous No.20042722]

>>20042714
No don't, I want to read it so I can make fun of how terrible the writing is

[Anonymous No.20042766]

>>20042035
>Tears of God
Have you ever read a book before? Any book?

[Anonymous No.20042835]

Does anyone have any good resources or beat sheets for building friendships?

>>20042242
Good news - it's not terrible, though it still needs cutting down. Cut it down to about 100 words because nobody's going to read more than that.

Bad news - your synopsis is literally back to front. I care more about the dude waking up than about 22nd century whatever. Lead with that.

[Anonymous No.20042851]

>>20039342
>Dien Bien Phu on a colonial world
Are you thinking of Khe Sanh?
There was no column at Dien Bien Phu and most did just die.

[Anonymous No.20043134]

>>20042463
I can't give you complete commentary without knowing what you want to do with this. Is it... like an Essay?

[Anonymous No.20043218]

How many anons here would actually give a crack at some writing prompts? We could try something with writing blurbs, or flash fiction.

Depending on the (you)s I can find some to post later today

[Anonymous No.20043219]

>>20042469
>>20042035
What's bad about that prose? Do you not like the voice it's written in or something?

[Anonymous No.20043229]

>>20042500
Man vs Man has given me the most interesting conflicts so far. All my stories have implicit Man vs Self themes as well. But I'm tempted to try Man vs Nature and explicit Man vs Self.
>>20043218
I'd try a few as long as you post them when I'm not at work. Otherwise I'll forget about them by evening.

[Anonymous No.20043237]

>>20042469
I don't find that bit too offensive. It's at the very least readable, something you can't say about 99% of the masturbatory stuff you see here.

[Anonymous No.20043257]

>>20042469
>Her throws were still amateur-level at best. She was tragically aware of this. No amount of game videos or self-help literature seemed to be providing any improvement. She was able to throw the ball, but she knew her accuracy was perhaps too far off.
you're leaning too heavily on the "woah dude, blowjob" element, to the point where you completely neglect any semblance of writing quality.
>>20043237
look, if you want to be defensive, knock yourself out. it has nothing to do with being "offensive." nobody here is going to be offended by writing about a blowjob. you could write about shitting dick nipples and scat eating and nobody here would bat an eyelash at it. throw out the idea that you are shocking anyone with the subject matter, and try to see why people are shitting on your writing QUALITY.

[Anonymous No.20043265]

>>20042469
Those lines could flow better, but it's well ahead of my personal readability threshold.
Maybe I have low standards.

[Anonymous No.20043282]

>>20043265
your personal readability threshold. what is your standard? a collection of syntactically correct sentences which resolve to concepts in the english language? are you writing fiction or a pamphlet on how to give the best blowjob? it's one thing to have low standards for the work of others. it's another thing entirely to have low standards for your own work and to not only shill it in places it doesn't belong, but to then DEFEND the work you ADMIT IS LOW-QUALITY.

how does any of that make a lick of fucking sense to you?

[Anonymous No.20043294]

>>20043218
I posted one in the last thread. I did the exercise myself, here >>20038671. No one else attempted the exercise. This thread is now half way to bump limit too.

[Anonymous No.20043300]

>>20043265
No it has to be perfect though. You can't talk about sex unless you soulsuck the corpse of Joyce. As gatekeeper of this general I will not accept any less.

[Anonymous No.20043301]

>>20043282
I didn't write it. Why are you assuming I wrote it?
It's not bad enough to be very distracting. I might read it if I liked the content enough (though in this case it doesn't seem interesting).
I don't have trouble understanding what the sentences mean. There's only one irregularity gross enough to make me do a double take (the "knew"/"perhaps" pair). That's a low bar, but sometimes it doesn't need to be higher.
I don't love it, but it doesn't make me angry.

[Anonymous No.20043302]

>>20043257
But there's nothing wrong with the quality. The only issue is that it's a mildly redundant set of sentences.

[Anonymous No.20043306]

>>20043294
I've been working on that exercise, but I write very slowly

[Anonymous No.20043336]

>>20043306
Oh, very good. I'm glad you are trying. Did you download the book too? When you are done post it and tell us how you felt about the process.

[Anonymous No.20043344]

I’m thinking of writing a novel all in Latex or Python. It’ll make the “print” version feel like I have to change my eyes to view the drafts and I’ll have a Hawkeye to edit it.

[Anonymous No.20043347]

>>20042057
Why aren’t you sending them out?

[Anonymous No.20043365]

>>20041920
Wow anon great poem - someone hypothetically after reading my poem

[Anonymous No.20043373]

>>20043347
Where?

[Anonymous No.20043387]

>>20043336
I downloaded an epub from zlibrary, but I don't know if I'll do anything with it.
Right now I'm actually more interested in increasing my output than in improving my technique (though improved technique is certainly welcome). Posting to this thread might help, with exercises/prompts for structure. I need some token audience to motivate me but I also need to be less self-conscious. It could be a good balance.

[Anonymous No.20043397]

Alright, let's give this a shot. Still got 150 posts to go anyway

[Anonymous No.20043444]

>>20038656
Post-apocalyptic Nuclear Transhumanist Techno-avatars:

Nuclear war has devastated most of the world, mutants and genetic freaks now run rampant across Earth. The few remaining genetically pure humans all get in stasis pod and live underground in a virtual matrix like paradise while waiting for the planet to be habitable again. They too can get in robotic bodies and go on adventures and whatnot, killing mutants and exploring around isn't only fun, but encouraged as it makes the planet safer and accelerates the time they will be able to return to the surface. Shitpost all day, fuck and erp all night, and kill muties. Good stuff.

[Axsl !rw/ZJc7M5s No.20043449]

>>20043397
Fuck it, let's do this:

>5
Horror

>Prompt:
Fragment

[Anonymous No.20043469]

>>20043444
Now that's based.

[Anonymous No.20043513]

Philip Roth estimated the audience for “serious” fiction in the United States runs about 120,000. Nan Talese, Senior Vice president at Doubleday, puts it closer to 4,000. So while John Grisham’s law-firm novels sell more than 4.5 million copies in hardcover alone and the romance genre more than $1 billion worth of books each year (50 percent of all mass-market paperbacks), most writers can’t live from what their writing makes them. The average income of a “successful” author is usually well less than $5,000 a year.

If you’re out to make money through your writing, then, you would be better advised to play the lottery. Your chances of winning will be much greater, which is to say what Samuel Beckett once told Raymond Federman is truer now than ever before: “Whatever you write never compromise, never cheat, and if you plan to write for money or for fame, do something else.”

[Axsl !rw/ZJc7M5s No.20043664]

>>20043449
Check out my Magnum Opus:

[Anonymous No.20043703]

>>20043664
I hate exclamation points. Otherwise I liked it.

[Anonymous No.20043737]

>>20043664
Nice - I'm still stuck on mine

[Anonymous No.20043756]

Annie Dillard: “Assume you write for an audience consisting solely of terminal patients. That is, after all, the case. What could you say to a dying person that would not enrage by its triviality?”

[Anonymous No.20043778]

Will Amazon delete a negative book review if they didn't read it and just gave it 1 star and called it a piece of crap

[Anonymous No.20043821]

How unnecessary it is to replace my fantasy world's fauna with "new" takes on real world animals if the focus of the story is just the characters?

[Axsl !rw/ZJc7M5s No.20043833]

>>20043821
Just give the fauna names that would fit real animals, don't call them Frumplumps or some other inane shit like that. Call them stuff like Liowls or Spotted Arabors and give vague generic descriptions, let the readers fill the blanks.

[Anonymous No.20043834]

>>20042835
Yeah I guess I did use it as an excuse to shove in backstory before it would otherwise be explained so that readers wouldn't be *as* confused. This is decent advice though. I'll get it to be less shit eventually.
>I care more about the dude waking up than about 22nd century whatever
This is also good news because that's the protagonist.

[Anonymous No.20043841]

>>20043778
Post the review.

[Anonymous No.20043862]

>>20043841
It says
Piece of crap and waste of time
Don't waste your time on this.
Likely from some guy I pissed off on twitter. Its only available on Amazon so i know they didn't read it

[Anonymous No.20043866]

>>20043821
If it's a regular animal, call it what it is.

[Anonymous No.20043873]

>>20043862
Doesn't say he didn't read it so I doubt they'll do anything. Post your amazon link here and maybe someone will give you a positive review to make up for it.

[Anonymous No.20043885]

>>20043873
Its an unverfied review meaning he didn't buy it on Amazon, which is the only place its available

[Anonymous No.20043929]

>>20043397
You posted this when I'm still at work you buffoon. You absolute fool

[Anonymous No.20043933]

>>20043929
Aiee
... I'll make another one next thread

[Anonymous No.20044355]

>>20042851
It's inspired by a lot of them I'd say

[Anonymous No.20044399]

>>20043218
The flash fiction anthology anon has a bunch of prompts. Haven’t seen him around lately…not many in /wg/ participating.

[Anonymous No.20044407]

>>20044399
>not many in /wg/ participating
we have our own projects we're working on
right, anon? you are working on your project and not procrastinating, right?

[Anonymous No.20044460]

>>20044399
This is the last picture I have saved of it

[Anonymous No.20044526]

>>20038694
>>20038023
600 words in 28 hours is not great, but hey, at least I finished.
Given the exercise it might be too heavy on speech over narration (more than half), and the narration that there is could be less analytic. It's still more narration than I'm used to mixing through my dialogue so I count it as a success.
I'd like to keep doing these.

[Anonymous No.20044568]

>>20043778
If we were anywhere else, I'd tell you to contact customer support, but since we're on /wg/, your book probably really is a piece of crap and not even worth 1 star

[Anonymous No.20044680]

>>20043397
I'm stuck :v

[Anonymous No.20044686]

>>20044407
Of course I'm procrastinating, you rube.

[Anonymous No.20044707]

>>20043833
>>20043866
For reasons related to the plot if there were cats in my setting and they were called something else in the past, they would be called cats by the time the story takes place.
What I mean is if I should bother making, idunno, some kind of fat lemur mutant thing to replace house cats or have warm-blooded crocodiles with long legs to replace lions if they are not the focus of the story and are ultimately just cats and lions anyway.

It would give a clear indication that it is an alternate world but at the same time, other things make that just as clear.

[Anonymous No.20044778]

Been procrastinating my novel for almost a year and I'm dreading the day someone publishes my idea before I do and they gain all the recognition for it. Where do you get your motivation from, /wg/?

[Anonymous No.20044786]

>>20044526
Anon . . . that is amazing. And you absolutely got me with that ridiculous ending, I laughed hard. Shit, that 28 hours was absolutely worth it. I find it so sad, and unfortunately so typical, that the guy who is so near giving up is so fucking good at writing. You make me want to cry, anon. Really, it is so good. I absolutely encourage you to continue with these exercises. They will let you build up a little library of playthings that later on you can pull out and examine and perhaps work into longer works, or just attempt to publish as they are.

That said I am pretty sure you fucked up the exercise lmao you used "I" fucking loads. Granted, it was not the narrator's "I", it was another character's, but I think that is most likely cheating. Do you see? You had the doctor take over with his dialogue for much of the story as he explained the process and his tools and put the narrator at the very back of the story, in a sense, distant, so that this was almost like a third person story with the doctor as the main character. In this sense, the narrator, though in terms of plot was very important to the story, and certainly he was very important to that punchline ending, but for the most part this was the doctor's story of him and what he does, or rather, what the doctor says he does. The exercise was about observation and in your story it is so dialogue heavy it is really about listening.

Now, that said, none of that really matters because you turned out a good piece of work. But you say you normally use less narration? That might be a comfort zone you should explore breaking. Here is another exercise from the same book, 3AM Epiphany, and it's one where you won't be able to use any dialogue. This exercise is based on the one John Gardner gives in The Art of Fiction:

Exercise 110. SWEET AND SOUR. Describe briefly a lake or a backcountry mountain trail (in other words, a beautiful natural setting) as seen by a person who has just lost a parent in a sudden, unexpected death. The last time this narrator saw the parent, they argued violently. In your narrative do not mention the death, the parent, or the argument. Do not tell a story. Simply show us what the lake or forest or street looks like to someone under these circumstances. 500 words

[Anonymous No.20044792]

>>20044778
The things I want to write don't exist. That's why I write them. If someone else wrote them and wrote them well it would be a relief, but that sadly never happens.

[Anonymous No.20044993]

>>20044786
Thank you! I'm not in any danger of giving up—I've felt this way for years and it hasn't stopped me, just slowed me down.
You're right about the exercise. I realized midway through that my idea wasn't ideal for it, but I liked it enough that I wanted to continue. (I also notice a spare "me" that slipped through.)
The new exercise is perfect. Besides the opportunity to work with emotion, I don't have much experience describing scenery. (An artifact both of tunnel vision and of exclusively writing video game fan fiction.)

[Anonymous No.20045502]

Post progress.

[Anonymous No.20045571]

>>20045502
1641:36:00
82,000 words
I think most of this may be me just leaving the document open overnight.

[Anonymous No.20045582]

>>20045571
>1641:36:00
Hours?

[Anonymous No.20045585]

>>20045582
I think that's hours minutes seconds, yeah. It's the default "Time spent editing" thing enabled on Microsoft 11

[Anonymous No.20045730]

Book 2 Chapter 16
https://pastebin.com/qJYPCX16

[Anonymous No.20045751]

>>20045502
17 chapters down with just over 55k words. Looking at my outline, I’m roughly a third of the way through. Not that it matters. It’s all shit. Not just because it’s a first draft. You’ve all told me it’s shit. You can’t be wrong. It’s 4chan.

[Anonymous No.20045764]

>>20043664
what's up with the huge spaces between paragraphs? there should be none.

your writing is ok but where you stumble is making it all about sex. that's a red flag right there for an incel. stuff like this doens't get published. why evne write it? writ somthing else that might actually get published

[Anonymous No.20045767]

>>20044680

Take out the first sentence or put it last in the paragraph

[Anonymous No.20045816]

My writing skills finally are making themselves useful. I have to write a eulogy.

[Anonymous No.20045820]

>>20045730
How do people like you overcome their embarrassment? I mean, the absolute shame of writing the most unimaginative, derivative fantasy crap possible with dwarves and elves you ripped off from other media using made up names with no linguistic consistence instead of researching your homeland's mythology like Tolkien did?

[Anonymous No.20045836]

>>20045820
I’m still a better writer than you’ll ever be.

[Anonymous No.20045853]

>>20045816
Sorry to hear that, anon. Was it someone close?

[Anonymous No.20045887]

>>20045853
It was my aunt, they need a male cousin to say the eulogy and I was the most emotionally distant one enough to do it. All the practice writing made it easy to write.

[Anonymous No.20045936]

>>20043397
im thinking about this way too autistically
do I still write from the first person even if the MC ends up dying at the end?

[Anonymous No.20045951]

>>20045936
what I mean to say is that i cant give an account of what happened to the MC in the past, so it would need to be in real time right?

[Anonymous No.20045958]

In these grim times, writing is like my escape, my antidote to this nihilistic world. In the face of a world devoid of meaning, like a blank canvas, writing is the paint I use to make my own meaning.

[Anonymous No.20045990]

>>20045958
does it sound like she's masturbating? or should i make it more blatant? or add more details?

[Anonymous No.20045991]

>>20044526
Great job anon!

I like the magical realism. All the terms of art that making miracles sound so clinical and routine (kind of a Strange & Norrell vibe) and makes the religious aspects entirely transactional. There are so many more things to explore in this idea. It’s a fun short story, but i think it’s strong enough to stay engaging even in a longer format.

The ending was funny, but it wasn’t all that clever. Twist endings are a crutch when the story lacks enough substance on it’s own (i should know, since I always use them). The setup here was good, it deserved better than a pun.

[Anonymous No.20045995]

>>20044526
lol this was great.

[Anonymous No.20046002]

>>20045730
>The dwarf shrugged with a screwy smile on her face. “I may want to fire you, but I don’t hate you, Ayara; I’m not about to turn you over to their … interrogators.” She sighed. “Not even for a contract,” she added with a bitter whisper.

What does it mean to have a "screwy smile"? Maybe change the verb.

[Anonymous No.20046010]

>>20045990
"Her fingered wandered" is like getting to smell the apple pie across the street and then the rest is watching them close the door and ignore me. Show me her arching her back a little, sighing into her pillow, tensing and untensing, etc. You don't need to make her go knuckles deep but let me keep smelling the apple pie. Keep the "Her desires persisted" part though.

[Anonymous No.20046020]

IT BEGINS

[Anonymous No.20046030]

>>20045990
Be wary Adahfag, the genie is hard to put back in once out of the bottle. As you write sex scenes, decide if you want Adah to be a respected hero or a character to be objectified and desired. The frequency of such moments depends on this.

[Anonymous No.20046060]

Third person limited should not be this fucking hard. This Brian Kiteley nigger better square up because when I'm done with this fucking prose piece I'm coming for his ass.

[Anonymous No.20046096]

>>20043821
Just say that the creatures are different but you translated the names to match those with a similar role as the ones we have now
Like Wolfe

[Anonymous No.20046110]

>>20046060
Are you doing the one with the family? Where you have to inhabit all their thoughts? I struggled with that. I always stay with one perspective normally.

[Anonymous No.20046118]

>have female character that is a troublemaker and good at tricking people
>unexpectedly funny though big part of her humor is self-deprecating
>part of her personal conflict is being the odd one out of a family of athletes
>something in me tells me to make her jewish
>start listening to /pol/ about three years later
>even after going back to that story, i haven't changed that aspect of her
Um, bros?

[Anonymous No.20046119]

>>20046110
I'm doing the one with the unreliable third person limited narrator. I think I'm mucking it up by being too omniscient and I need to narrow the scope, but it's really fucked. I'll finish it shortly and post it for critique and contribootions.

[Anonymous No.20046126]

I want to write
Is George RR Martin a bad person to try to emulate?
I'm not interested in politics or violence or sex

[Anonymous No.20046130]

>>20046030
can a hero be objectified and desired?

[Anonymous No.20046141]

>>20046118
I have literally no idea what you're trying to say. /pol/ truly warps your mind.

[Anonymous No.20046160]

>>20046119
Ah, yeah. I did that too. It's pretty terrible now that I'm reading it, but I'll post it anyway. I think the idea I had was just for a lie to gradually come to light without explicitly stating it, but it's not a very easy thing to do. The subject matter is quite juvenile and shallow too, now that I read it, and the characterisation is hackneyed.

[Anonymous No.20046166]

>>20046126
You should read the kind of stories and authors you want to write like. Emulation is always the first step. Finding what works for you takes years of honed practice afterwards.

[Anonymous No.20046171]

>>20046126
He doesn't have games on his computer, so do that.

[Anonymous No.20046176]

>>20045990
Why did you respond to me?

[Anonymous No.20046206]

>>20046166
Yeah ok
I usually read books to get immersed in them so I don't always notice how the author writes, is that a problem?
>>20046171
I haven't played any games since I started HRT 4 years ago but I still struggle to write

[Anonymous No.20046235]

>>20046141
I mean, troublemakers? Tricking people? 109 countries?
Come on, man, I thought you guys were smarter than /pol/.

[Anonymous No.20046239]

>>20046176
I wrote you something so that in a world devoid of meaning you can read someone else's writing.

[Anonymous No.20046246]

I'm writing a romance/erotica novel. Here are some excerpts:

>Out on the balcony, when Reginald kissed Diana's lips, her knees went weak. Slowly, he pulled her top down, exposing her soft, unyielding breasts. Just the sight of those breasts made Reginald's penis very hard. His penis was of considerable size, and now beads of sweat slowly ran down his penis, making it glisten like a strong swimmer, fresh from out of the pool. It was a fantastic penis, that seemed as strong as a horse's leg, yet as delicate as a flower wrapped in silk. What a grand, grand penis.

>Diana had never slept with another woman before, but it was an erotic thought she often fantasized about, and as Rebecca's naked body lay before her, Diana couldn't help but feel aroused. "Go on", Rebecca said softly, "Touch me." Diana leaned down slowly and brushed Rebecca's bare stomach with her fingertips... It felt good. Like a penis. A soft, but sturdy penis that felt warm to the touch. In Rebecca's mind, she suddenly felt like she was surrounded by penises. They were all around her, flopping all around and slapping her face. It was as if she were in a redwood forest of penises. They presented themselves tall and mighty all around her

[Anonymous No.20046277]

>>20046160
How come people use rhetorical questions in their writing? I never understood it. Does it make the piece better? I thought rhetorical questions was only for dialogue and first person. Because in 3rd person you're describing, not breaking the 4th wall

[Anonymous No.20046286]

>>20046206
If you need to, just go read a favourite book of yours and take notes on the side about what you like about a certain phrasing or idea. It will soon become second nature to you.

[Anonymous No.20046304]

>>20046160
Pretty nicely composed. I liked this a lot. It's much, much easier to write this kind of challenge from a narrative perspective. I write much more dialogue-heavy and it's a habit I'm struggling to break, but what's life if not people talking to each other? But writing lets you see into people's minds much more than a film or a comic does, so I need to adapt. Anyways. I liked yours. Here's my get at the same.

[Anonymous No.20046548]

>>20046235
>I thought you guys were smarter than /pol/
Man what about this board gave you that idea? Don't mistake education or vocabulary for intelligence.

[Anonymous No.20046613]

I'm writing a story where a guy cheats on his wife with multiple women and has to deal with the complex feelings he has for each woman and the inevitable consequences of his actions. How do I make sure it doesn't sound like a self insert harem story?

[Anonymous No.20046632]

>>20041920
I like your diction, anon.
the theme is racy, good, but not a lot of people like the defeatist mindset.

Continue the good work! :)

[Anonymous No.20046655]

>>20046613
it's impossible. Story telling will inevitably have you self insert somehow somewhere

[Anonymous No.20046705]

>>20045990
Just cut out the porn. These fantasy novels work better without the erotica

[Anonymous No.20046722]

hey guys : )

[Anonymous No.20046820]

>>20046722
Hope you had a good year blimp-kun!

[Anonymous No.20046876]

Is this the thread where I can post an excerpt from a crappy story I wanted to write?

[Anonymous No.20046893]

>>20046876
Yes.

[Anonymous No.20046914]

>>20046893
Ok, here I go.

Monday.
Recess had just started and the students roamed the pale playground. The sky was grey and cloudy, there had been no sun for the whole weekend. The slides were rusted and the seesaws were bent. The merry-go-round made a horrible grating noise when it was spun and could barely move at all. There was barely any color anywhere, even the children appeared grey and lifeless. Most of the kids just sat around and did nothing. There was no joy, no laughter, no emotion.

Any advice on how to make my writing better? Also, I remember specifically enjoying writing this paragraph despite its quality.

[Anonymous No.20046989]

>>20041851
>I just used the first picture of it I could find
Kek, well it got me to read it anon so good instinct. One thing I should say, I never read Haruki Murakami so bear that in mind with my feedback.

[Anonymous No.20047006]

Some of you fags use RR right? How would I post multiple chapters at once to a new novel? I get that they require a janny to approve the first chapter, but while it's waiting can I add in more chapters? I don't want to post my foreward as the thing the janny should read, but I do want it and the first 7 chapters to post all at once when the story is approved.

[Anonymous No.20047027]

>>20046876
>>20046914
Are you underage?

[Anonymous No.20047057]

Wrote a little short story, around 2k words long, would very much appreciate the feedback. It's pretty much all mood; writing short-form narratives is very new to me, and I'm still trying to wrangle in the proper elements. The aim here was to go for something surreal and distant.
https://pastebin.com/XzGjZWMU

[Anonymous No.20047158]

>>20046613
Is that what it is? Honestly, is it? Where does this story come from?

[Anonymous No.20047274]

>>20042090
90/0/10 in favor of slice of life.

[Anonymous No.20047309]

>>20046246
It's so bad it's good. Keep at it.

[Anonymous No.20047401]

>>20046613
>How do I make sure it doesn't sound like a self insert harem story?
It's all about whether you portray the people, situations and consequences realistically, or whether it's all just "whoa this is so AWESOME dude, why doesn't everyone live like this?" without a single negative

[Anonymous No.20047403]

>>20042463
I like it. Feels like something Richard Brautigan would've written were he still with us.

[Anonymous No.20047441]

To everyone who wants to pull off their fiction from RR to monetize it:

just leave it up there. If people want to read it they will find a way to pirate, or more likely they'll come back to try to read it and feel betrayed when it's not still there. But if you leave it up for free, your readers will maintain their investment and will be more likely to purchase your work in a different format. Just a thought

[Anonymous No.20047477]

>>20047441
You can't leave it up there if you publish through KDP. The Kindle Unlimited program expects that the story is exclusive to Amazon. You can choose expanded distribution and leave your story up, but then you cuck yourself out of all the benefits of the service. You should do your research before handing out "advice".

[Anonymous No.20047605]

>>20046304
Yes, that is dialogue heavy. Personally, I dislike that in fiction. I abide by the idea that dialogue is a sort of spice and it should be used sparingly. When I start a book I will put it down if I see it has a lot of dialogue and that dialogue doesn't immediately capture me in a special way. There are exceptions, of course, I have even read stories that were nothing but dialogue, but generally that's how I treat it.

At a rough count you have 15 instances of dialogue there. If you want to improve your narration then you need to start cutting back. You could for instance take what you have just written and attempt to write it while using only 1/3rd the amount of dialogue, 5 lines of dialogue or less. You'll need to think about where this dialogue may best be used and how to restructure the story to change dialogue into narration.

Whilst reading I also wondered to myself what the story like if we were a step removed from the scene, if for instance, this woman was telling the tale of her police visit to a neighbour over a cup of tea. I felt like that sort of distance would be better for showing off an unreliable narrator.

[Anonymous No.20047642]

>>20047477
Wow, someone pissed in your coffee this morning huh? I'd hate to think that you always act like an asshole

[Anonymous No.20047695]

>>20047642
Shut up roastie
NTA btw

[Anonymous No.20047744]

>>20047642
If someone pissed in my coffee I'd be having a great start to my day

[Anonymous No.20047786]

>>20046130
Yes, at the cost of losing some heroism. For example, no discussion about Metroid can just mention all the cool shit Samus has done without at least a third of posts wanting to fuck her. You can't make a character unobjectifiable because rule 34 & 35 exist, but you can actually talk about harry potter and mention things about Hermione which aren't her pantsu.
There's also a difference between making a character that people will go "Oh wow she's cute I love her" and making a character that people will go "Built."

[Anonymous No.20047788]

>>20046246
Excellent farce

[Anonymous No.20047806]

You guys have been advertising right?
You’re not going to release a book without a marketing plan like a chump right??

[Anonymous No.20047818]

>>20047806
Shoo shoo merkaating pseud.

[Anonymous No.20047875]

>>20047818
Aiming to reach a desired audience is not meerkating. Meerkating is when you perform Twitter follow for follow scam tier bullshit. Aiming to find an intended audience for your book is not scummy, it's outreach.

[Anonymous No.20047904]

>>20047006
Don't. Post 1 a day for maximum exposure

[Anonymous No.20047954]

>>20047027
Nah, just stupid. Any advice on how to get better at writing?

[Anonymous No.20047967]

>>20045991
>>20045995
Thanks!
I came up with the ending first. The exercise made me think of a situation where someone is talking past the narrator. But that's not essential to the way it turned out, so I could try to think of something else.
I tried to leave open the possibility that he's a quack with an elaborate routine. I don't know how well that came through. In a longer work I'd have to either drop that aspect or lean into it.
>Strange & Norrell
I liked Piranesi, so I'll bump this up my list.

[Anonymous No.20048244]

>>20044786
>Exercise 110. SWEET AND SOUR. Describe briefly a lake or a backcountry mountain trail (in other words, a beautiful natural setting) as seen by a person who has just lost a parent in a sudden, unexpected death. The last time this narrator saw the parent, they argued violently. In your narrative do not mention the death, the parent, or the argument. Do not tell a story. Simply show us what the lake or forest or street looks like to someone under these circumstances. 500 words
After stewing on this one I got rid of all distractions and wrote it in an hour. I hope I can keep up that pace.
I think it turned out okay? It's faithful to my own mind, but I don't know if it's interesting to read. I'd feel bad about including it as part of something else.

[Anonymous No.20048330]

>>20038632
What's your method of outlining?

[Anonymous No.20048361]

>>20048330
What does that even mean? You write down plot beats and shit, you outline the story. What "methods" do you think there are? Do you mean like using post-it notes instead of a file on your computer?

[Anonymous No.20048375]

>>20048330
I imagine scenes I want my characters to be in and relate them to each other while listening to anime music.
Forget to write them down.
Forget some details and events from not writing them down.
Fill in the forgotten details with new scenes and details while listening to a different group of anime music.
Hopefully write them down today.

[Anonymous No.20048387]

>>20048375
>Forget to write them down.
>Forget some details and events from not writing them down.
Damn, yeah. I always think "this is an important part of the story/plot, I'm not gonna forget it" then boom

[Anonymous No.20048419]

>>20048387
The worse ones are when I finally find a solution for a plotpoint I couldn't figure out and then my brain goes "well, then, it's settled" and forgets a couple of hours later.

[Anonymous No.20048435]

>Go to bed after a long day of working.
>As I lie on my bed think of an awesome plot or an incredible story that would make a great book.
> Think "Oh man, that's awesome, tomorrow as soon as I wake up I'll write about it."
> Wake up the next morning
> Can't remember any of it
> Such is life

[Anonymous No.20048443]

>>20048387
>>20048419
This has happened to me within 10 minute span. I'll think of a solution but want to finish what I'm doing and then be baffled.

I think I unironically have neurological issues with memory.

[Anonymous No.20048486]

Hello, this might be childish and bad, but it was something that came on top of my mind during a Physics class

Voidbound

Every single speck of matter is deeply tied to the Void. In that sense, all things are built equal, as we are all filled with the same emptiness as one another, whether human or star.

We are all the empty inhabitants of the Kingdom of ever-expanding nothingness, inevitably drifting away from each other, unconsciously getting farther and farther away from what made us particles.

“Nomatter asked for this fake equality!”, or so the Big Ones told us. “You livings need us! You’re nothing but leftovers!” Sure! We are! We coexist with you Giants, admiring you from afar, with the meager consolation of our common ground. We look up to you in hopes of one day understanding your secrets as well as you understand ours.

We the Living recognize our inequality, but we shall never abandon our common ground! It is the prestigious proof of our immutable link to this universe, one that we shall cherish until the end of Time.

What lies after the end of everything is the only thing that is not voidbound; the Universe before it’s birth, a plain black sky that shall restart the cycle of the Void, so as to give us matter the chance to become something entirely different, that may not belong to our current Kingdom.

[Anonymous No.20048529]

>>20048387
>>20048419
>>20048435
>>20048443
Buy a voice recorder and keep it close to you at all times.
I didn't look it up but if there is a waterproof one then get that one so you can easily use it even when showering.

[Anonymous No.20048571]

>>20048529
But I hate the sound of my voice

[Anonymous No.20048584]

>>20048571
Same.

[Anonymous No.20048646]

I'll hide explanations to my writing techniques in my writing so when I get famous and people ask "wow anon how do i learn to write as good as you", I'll just tell them to buy my books unironically.

[Anonymous No.20048700]

>>20048646
If you are famous you don't need to come up with shitty excuses for people to buy your books you half assed moronoid

[Anonymous No.20048727]

>>20048387
The most important ones always come back. They'll always recur as a natural demand of your story.

[Anonymous No.20048793]

>>20048700
I mean, how many people who bought On Writing also read Stephen King?

[Anonymous No.20048806]

>>20048793
Me

[Anonymous No.20048823]

>>20048646
I've changed principles, embraced literary theory and then abandoned it so many times by now, if someone asked how I learned to write the way I did, I wouldn't know what to say

[Anonymous No.20048827]

I want to write a series of books and self-publish. What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.20048831]

>>20047642
>someone corrected my bullshit
>BAAWWWWW
fuck off kid

[Anonymous No.20048852]

>>20048827
Obscurity.

[Anonymous No.20048873]

I'm going to insert random scenes into my book where a character discusses the themes and messages of the story with god using metaphors and allegory, and they indirectly spoil all the major plot points in advance. I'm pretty sure 98% of the readers will be unable to connect the dots and have no idea what these scenes mean or what they're talking about, or that I'm basically just fucking with them. Is this a funny idea?

[Anonymous No.20048885]

>>20048873
everyone does this already

[Anonymous No.20048925]

>>20048823
Every time I start with a blank page I feel like I'm learning how to write all over again.

[Anonymous No.20048939]

>>20048873
Will readers who don't understand still get something out of it?
Will readers who do understand enjoy having the plot spoiled?
There's a sweet spot where you don't see what's coming but understand when things happen that this was always the way they had to go. Maybe you should aim for that.
Or you could go for full out dramatic irony where the reader knows the shape of the plot before it unfolds. Cheese by Willem Elsschot starts with an introduction where the writer describes the rhythm of his plots, and then a dramatis personae that reveals the eventual fate of the protagonist (failure followed by return to the status quo). That's a very formal, explicit way to do it, and it works for the kind of story it is.
Whatever you do, it seems like you should do it with care.

[Anonymous No.20049091]

>>20048939
Ideally, those who understand will get this "oh, so THAT'S what it was about"-experience when they reach the end. While those who don't get it will hopefully experience extreme discomfort and possible insanity

[Anonymous No.20049405]

>>20048571
>>20048584
Doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.20049445]

>>20049405
It don't matter. None of this matters.

[Anonymous No.20049547]

nobody in /wg/ writes, pointless thread

[Anonymous No.20049562]

>>20049547
Be the change you wanna see.

[Anonymous No.20049568]

>>20049547
If you want to see writers go to /qst/. Buncha shitty writers among them, but some aren't half bad. Too many perverts for my taste tho

[Anonymous No.20049614]

>>20049547
*nobody in /wg/ reads

[Anonymous No.20049705]

whats more interesting, a full scale war between two sprawling empires, one militant and assimilative and one authoritarian and puritan, or a free for all threeway war between two puritan factions and a third faction that arises from refugees and survivors of the other two factions? will the goals get muddied? will it be harder to focus on the real antagonists if i have a third faction just kinda dicking around? how do i make it work?

[Anonymous No.20049794]

>>20049705
Either could be interesting, but what is your goal with including the 3rd faction?

[Anonymous No.20049866]

Do you sketch out your plots before you start writing, or do they work themselves out? I can never think of a killer twist or pay-off that ties it all together.

[Anonymous No.20049868]

>>20049866
both

[Anonymous No.20049874]

>>20044786

Don't have a word count.
Sweet and Sour


The trail was snowed in. He sat in the car looking at the foot of snow and considered going back down. He tasted nicotine on his fingers and fingered his pack. Three left. He crushed the one he was smoking in the cup holder. Fuck it, I want to see the lake. The engine died and he pushed out the door. A tar spattered jacket from the backseat. Concrete caked boots from the trunk. A long walk through ankle deep snow. Time passed. There were no birds. No sounds save the click of his lighter. Inhale smoke. Exhale fatigue. Some leaves still remained. Heavy green, scattered oranges. Pretty. He could see the water through the bare spots. The sun was hidden behind rough clouds. The snow ended as he neared the lake. Replaced with frozen stone and sand. He sat on his ass and stretched his leg out in front of him. The lake was still, encompassed on all sides by dark wet trees. Another cigarette found itself between his lips.

[Anonymous No.20049888]

>>20049705
I'd say there's no difference. From a top down view - which readers will not emotionally connect with - it may be more interesting to have more players. But the characters your story should be following are whats important, that is who your reader cares about. If you want more sides to add more spicyness to the story, fine, but you don't need that at all.

[Anonymous No.20049903]

>>20049794
thats kinda the problem, im not entirely sure, and thats why i ask if it muddies the main antagonists. basically the third group all have visions and dreams and their shamans gather, and a consortium of various races agrees to destroy humanity for the good of the universe. originally i was going to have the antagonists gather these different races together but the antagonists are supposed to be warlike savages who stole their technology and ships from a more advanced race and decorate their armored in skins and scalps, so it makes a little questionable that any other race would side with these guys besides savages like them. but theyre a better alternative to the humans in this universe who have basically fucked the galaxy on an apocalyptic scale, would that be reason enough you think?
>>20049866
both, i try to focus on the plot drafts first but if i have good ideas, good lines or dialogues in my head i try to write them as soon as they come because its harder to remember it later
>>20049888
its going to be very large in scale and take point of view from multiple protagonists but im trying to avoid a detached top down view like its just dnd or warhammer lore, i want the core cast to be relatable even if very weird and broad

[Anonymous No.20049904]

>>20049866
I started with a premise, and the inciting incident that would occur as a result, and then I just ran with it and made stuff up as I went from there. Every so often I'd step back and look a the arc of the story and put some milestones I'd like to hit. And every so often I'd go back and fix things in the past to make them fit where the story actually ended up going.

[Anonymous No.20049951]

>>20047057
>https://pastebin.com/XzGjZWMU
Is that the whole story? Your writing is basically fine but the idea of not revealing who they are is annoying. It was already annoying by the second or third paragraph.

[Anonymous No.20049990]

>>20047057
I liked your story. I think it works well, it manages to establish a tangible mood. I wouldn't quite call it surreal, though.
I don't agree with >>20049951. I suppose it's a matter of taste.

[Anonymous No.20050037]

>>20050034
>>20050034
>>20050034