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So the Logical Investigations are basically the new scholasticism and a radical departure from Kantian critical idealism and neo-Kantian idealism?. Was Brentano familiar with Thomistic philosophy?.

What philosophers today carry this tradition?.

>> No.19981069

Husserl always claimed he already had a transcendental stance in the Logical Investigations. Has anyone ever read Ingarden's long discussion of how felt about this?

>> No.19981123

>>19981069
I wish I could find good translations of Polish philosophy

>> No.19981627

>>19981013
1. Was Brentano familiar with Thomistic philosophy?.

2. What philosophers today carry this tradition?.


Bump for this

>> No.19981660

>>19981013
Him and Freud were butt buddies, case closed.

>> No.19981732

>>19981627
Dunno about the first but maybe Edward Feser is what you're looking for?

>> No.19981909

>>19981732
>Neo-Thomism
No, I am talking about the Brentano and Husserl tradition

>> No.19981930

I think Godel is fake und gay
Books for this fucking philosohomathematical polemic feel?

>> No.19981936

No, it's pure Jewish tricks. Derrida inaugurated his career with a study of Husserl.

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>>19981909
I see. This guy might be whom you're looking for

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Marcel

>> No.19982330

>>19981013
>So the Logical Investigations are basically the new scholasticism
Not sure I follow, but it is heavily influenced by scholastic concepts which Husserl inherited from Brentano, yes.
>and a radical departure from Kantian critical idealism and neo-Kantian idealism?.
Departure implies a common point from which you deviate. For Husserl re Kant, it's much more that developing his own thought led him to adopt a similar language and treat similar issues. Brentano had an absolute hatred of Kant and did not teach him much.
>Was Brentano familiar with Thomistic philosophy?.
Yes, very much so.
>What philosophers today carry this tradition?.
The Leuven archives and small unknown Phenomenology circles that meet up every few years. No one well known.

>> No.19982335

>>19981930
godel loved husserl, they were both medieval thinkers

>> No.19982555

>>19981627
Brentano was very familiar with Scholastic philosophy, he said that he got his concept of intentional in-existence from a scholastic.

>> No.19983061
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> "For a defence of the Scholastic credentials of Brentano’s account of intentionality in PES, see Ausiono Marras, ‘Scholastic Roots of Brentano’s Conceptions of Intentionality’, in The Philosophy of Brentano, ed. by Linda L. McAlister, pp. 128–39. What Marras successfully defends in his paper, however, is the Scholastic account, and not Brentano’s account. Thus, the major conceptual discrepancies between the Scholastic account and Brentano’s ‘new’ thesis of intentionality are neither noted nor addressed in his paper. A similar absence is present in a more recent article, written by Dale Jacquette, ‘Brentano’s Concept of Intentionality’, in The Cambridge Guide to Brentano, ed. by Dale Jacquette (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2004) pp. 98–130. Jacquette seems to approve of Marras’ treatment of Brentano’s thesis (cf. p. 125, n. 5) thus the actual modification of the scholastic meaning of intentionality does not feature in his paper either. For an examination of the historical origins of the meanings of various versions of the Scholastic concept of intentionality that Brentano’s terminological use of the term in
PES (1874) points back to, in particular to late medieval Scholasticism, see Klaus Hedwig’s ‘Intention: Outlines for a History of a Phenomenological Concept’,
Philosophy and Phenomenological Research, vol. 39 (1979) pp. 326–40. In PES, however, it is quite clear that Brentano deviates considerably from the meanings of the Scholastic concept noted by Hedwig (cf., esp., pp. 328–30). Given that ‘there is no evidence’, as Hedwig points out, ‘that Husserl himself studied the Greek and scholastic sources from which the concept of intention derived’ (p. 333), we can see why Husserl is correct in his own self-evaluation to maintain that he begins philosophizing in the aftermath of the descriptive-psychological modification of the Scholastic concept of intentionality by Brentano. Cf., also, Klaus Hedwig, ‘Der scholastische Kontext des Intentionalen bei Brentano’, in Die Philosophie Franz Brentanos
, eds R. M. Chisholm and R. Haller, (Amsterdam: Rodopi, 1978) pp. 67–82, and P. Englehardt ‘Intentio’, Historisches Wörterbuch der Philosophie, vol. 4 (Wissenschaftliche Buchgesellschaft, Darmstadt,1976), pp. 466–74"
https://www.academia.edu/26698962/Brentanos_Revaluation_of_the_Scholastic_Concept_of_Intentionality_into_a_Root_Concept_of_Descriptive_Psychology
p.126, note 6.