Contemporary sociology of religion

[Anonymous No.19963609]

Are there books that talk about the ongoing cultural phenomenon that involves the former religious status quo of the early 20th century and earlier (abrahamism in the west) becoming the new transgressive ideology as a response to postmodernism and atheism becoming more dominant?
Are people like Hitchens worth reading or do they have nothing of value to say on this subject? I'm looking for impartial sources.

I'm also curious about how this shift affects this board's demographics so here's a poll
https://www.ferendum.com/en/PID984157PSD1546961105

[Anonymous No.19963621]

>>19963609
People need their copes

[Anonymous No.19963749]

>>19963609
Look up books on 'desecularization'

[Anonymous No.19963791]

>>19963749
It's a cyclical thing, then?

[Anonymous No.19963945]

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[Anonymous No.19964021]

It's not a direct answer, but I would look into the writings of Helena Blavatsky and Rudolf Steiner. What both strived to do was show that both reductive materialism and blind faith were equally flawed, and strived to synthesize spiritual truths and scientific ones.

If your considered more specifically with how faith in traditional religions has become counter cultural in a postmodern era, then read Evola, Guenon and Seraphim Rose

[Anonymous No.19964796]

>>19963609
i make up my own beliefs, which constists of nothing, so existential nihilism basically, i.e. nothing has meaning, what else is there to say

[Anonymous No.19964800]

>>19964796
Pretty based honestly

[Anonymous No.19964934]

>>19963609
>Perennialism
>Gnosticuckery
How about some REAL religions, Anon, not LARP fiestas?

[Anonymous No.19964938]

>>19964934
>excluding
Do you know how to read, brainlet?

[Anonymous No.19964959]

>>19963621
Religion isn't a cope atheshit

I would say Mircea Eliade's books fit this category

[Anonymous No.19964964]

>>19964959
>Religion isn't a cope
Sure thing buddy.

[Anonymous No.19964982]

>>19963609
Religion isn't coming back, it will only get weaker and weaker as we get further from the pre-modern agriculturalist society it came from and technology gets stronger and stronger. Religion is just stories humans told themselves, and humans are just self-aware animals. Sorry if this sounds "reddit" to you, but it's the truth.

[Anonymous No.19964985]

>>19964982
Careful anon, big wave of cope incoming

[Anonymous No.19965260]

>>19963609
>>19938112
Crtl+F "religion"

[Anonymous No.19965342]

>>19964959
The thread is about people using or wanting to use religion to be "counter cultural" and if that's not a cope for not having the dominant culture then nothing is

[Anonymous No.19965408]

>>19963609
Sure
Pagans and Christians in the City has a great take on this, you should read it.
>QRD
Smith talks about how "paganism" and Christianity correspond to a divide between immanent and transcendent conceptions of religion. Secularization of western democracy poses a huge problem, because Christianity and "paganism" have different ideas of what secularism is, and as societies secularize they have gradually transitioned from a Christian to a Pagan conception of secularization, which has pushed Christians onto the fringes of politics.

[Anonymous No.19965488]

>>19964796
>>19964800
Cope

[Anonymous No.19965626]

>>19965488
how is this cope?
whats your philosophy?

[Anonymous No.19965998]

>>19965408
How is paganism immanent vs. Christianity's transcendence?

[Anonymous No.19966067]

>>19965998
Because the religious objects of paganism are physical, discrete objects that exist in the world. Neptune, for example, wasn't some abstract representation of the sea and was only rationalized in that way at the very end of paganism's existence and by very select groups of people. Neptune, in paganism, was a real, physical being who lived in a physical location and who really had dominion over the sea in the same way that the Emperor had dominion over the Empire. In contrast, Christianity has a God who has dominion over the physical world but isn't EXCLUSIVELY physically located in it, and many of the fundamental concepts of Christianity have to do with affairs that happen outside of the world of physical reality.

Re: Secularism, this means that the concept of the "non-religious" is different between paganism and Christianity. In Christianity, a "secular" society does not rule on religious affairs, period, because the world of the religious can be separated from the physical world. In Paganism, a "secular" society is mutually respectful among all religions and expects all members to be because all component gods can be angered and bring their force to bear against the society. These contrast enormously. Christian secularism means "Your statue of your god is just a statue and your religious beliefs give it religious meaning". In contrast, Pagan secularism means "Your statue of your god is an idol I will respect while not paying it homage equal to my own gods".

[Anonymous No.19966458]

>>19964934
Retard

[Anonymous No.19966529]

>>19964964
Aint your buddy, pal>>19965342
A cope isn't a thing

[Anonymous No.19968035]

>>19964938
>>19966458
Its so easy to bait people in this board. KEKLMAO

[Anonymous No.19968394]

>>19964982
in a sense true, as attention span dies out, the Bible will eventually be unable to be told without

WAIT WAR AT RUSSIA
GONE SEXUAL
RACIST???

[Anonymous No.19969074]

>>19968035
>I was merely pretending to be retarded
lol

[Anonymous No.19969276]

>>19969074
You continue to feed the troll, the stronger he grows.

[Anonymous No.19969782]

>that poll
For the people who answered "none of the above", what are your beliefs?

[Anonymous No.19971269]

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[Anonymous No.19971549]

>>19966067
I thought you were referring to a sort of immanent soteriology as opposed to abrahamism's necessarily transcendental mysticism ,which got me excited but unfortunately not.