/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19931711]

>A man’s true masculinity does not begin to show until he has reached his fortieth year.
Agree or disagree, /lit/?

[Anonymous No.19931716]

well, society sure as hell won't show respect to a man under forty

[Anonymous No.19931729]

>>19931711
Agreed...

[Anonymous No.19931730]

A child does not become a man until he stops thinking in absolutes and starts accepting the complexities of life and the world.

[Anonymous No.19931861]

>>19931730
Ironic.

[Anonymous No.19932128]

>Conversely, a woman's true femininity emerges with the budding of the breasts and is swept away by the first period.
wtf

[Anonymous No.19932155]

>>19931711

As a Muslim, the scholars I've read claim that your intellectual prime doesn't start until your mid 40's, and then if you're lucky it will combine with your "wisdom prime" in your 60's.

After that, you better hope you have good genetics

[Anonymous No.19932803]

Sounds reddit.

[Anonymous No.19932843]

>>19931711
How would this fagget know?

[Anonymous No.19932857]

>>19932128
Maybe in his time. I've been seeing a lot of flat-chested, little girls twerking on TikTok.

[Anonymous No.19932860]

>>19931711
>Life begins at 40.

[Anonymous No.19932905]

>>19931711
This is dumb and you're dumb for asking

[Anonymous No.19932940]

>>19931711
True. Men are the most useful with less testosterone.

[Anonymous No.19932987]

>>19931711
i could beat the shit out of almost every 40+ year old man

[Anonymous No.19933063]

>>19932940
Dude hormones and space dust lmao.

[Anonymous No.19933151]

>>19932857
Speak for yourself. Those 14 year olds have E cups now, it's horrifying.

[Anonymous No.19933171]

>>19933063
reality

[Anonymous No.19934342]

>>19932987
>i could beat the shit out of almost every 40+ year old AMERICAN man

Fixed it.

[Anonymous No.19934601]

>>19932987
>he thinks masculinity means beating people up
Cringe.

[Anonymous No.19934612]

>>19932940
>>19932987
Literally a nigger.

[Anonymous No.19934625]

>>19931730
Midwit take

[Anonymous No.19934636]

Disagree. Is it because the dreams die?

[Anonymous No.19934644]

>>19934601
I will beat you up too

[Anonymous No.19934677]

>>19931711
Masculinity consists in adherence to virtue, and one starts becoming firm in virtue only in one's 40s. So, yes, he is right.

[Anonymous No.19934686]

>>19934625
I mean I agree and disagree, moral development typically begins a couple of years before puberty, though, so mere acknowledgement is not a good identifier. For more, read about Kohlberg and Piaget.

[Anonymous No.19934692]

>>19931711
Men are guided towards a false masculinity in life because true masculinity would have the average man wanting to dismantle government.

[Anonymous No.19934700]

>>19931729
WHAT A LIFE

[Anonymous No.19934796]

>>19934686
Friend good, enemy bad, thats all there is to life.

[Anonymous No.19934913]

>>19934692
Terminal politic brain.

[Anonymous No.19934922]

>>19932128
>is swept away by the first period.
Is he saying he likes 11 year olds?

[Anonymous No.19935139]

>>/lit/thread/S17864444#p17884871
Will jungerposter come back?

[Anonymous No.19935377]

>>19931711
if developing erectile dysfunction and having to retire from most sports means you're manly then yeah.
do not be naive. this boomer is talking about society's perception of a man's worth, which indeed becomes greater as he ages, and not biologial masculinity, which diminishes with time.

[Anonymous No.19935409]

>>19935377
Why comment on what you've never read?

[Anonymous No.19935612]

the ultimate man jesus christ died at 33

[Anonymous No.19935760]

>>19933151
Is there any evidence of this?

[Anonymous No.19935766]

Post other authors you stupid fucking nigger

[Anonymous No.19936009]

>>19935760
Glow elsewhere

[Anonymous No.19936202]

you become a man when you've become a good son

[Anonymous No.19936270]

>>19934913
Not at all... look at the erosion of masculinity in the last 20 years

[Anonymous No.19936353]

>>19935766
He's hardly posted here, Plus he makes poltards and trannies seethe.

[Anonymous No.19937229]

>>19933171
ok reddit

[Anonymous No.19937245]

>>19931711
Don't just post a sentence like that. Post his argument.

[Anonymous No.19937534]

>>19931730
>he said, absolutely.

[Anonymous No.19937569]

>>19932128

Nothing about this is sexual. Did he sexualize masculinity? Then why do you jump to sexual at the mere mention of the word femininity? He’s just making observations and something can be feminine without being sexualized

[Anonymous No.19937882]

>>19937229
Keep coping contrarian faggot

[Anonymous No.19938371]

Finally bros

[Anonymous No.19938653]

>>19938371
Godenholm
So people can find it
https://jungertranslationproject.wordpress.com/2021/05/17/chapter-one-of-visit-to-godenholm/

Where to buy it?

[Anonymous No.19938835]

>>19931711
Agree.

[Anonymous No.19938839]

>>19931711
Not for everybody.

[Anonymous No.19938890]

>>19931711
Have to wait a couple of years to find out

[Anonymous No.19940227]

>>19931716
Yes they will.

[Anonymous No.19941112]

>>19936270
YOUR erosion of YOUR masculinity in the last 20 years?

[Anonymous No.19941915]

>>19941112
>muh biology

[Anonymous No.19943075]

>>19938653
Check the website. Link is there.

[Anonymous No.19943082]

>>19931711
I hope so because I'm quite a fucking faggot right now at 32

[Anonymous No.19943479]

>>19943082
this, at 30.
>>19935139
I'll be a new Jüngerposter in 4-6 months.

[Anonymous No.19943521]

>>19932940
Interestingly Sapolosky says that testosterone causes us to attack lower status males not higher status ones. I could conclude that testosterone is the pedophile hormone and not the same as a gymchad cocktail of hormone

[Anonymous No.19943528]

>>19943521
>testosterone is the pedophile hormone
wat

[Anonymous No.19943537]

>>19943082
This, also at 30.

[Anonymous No.19943542]

>>19943528
I was exaggerating. But testosterone without any outlet for aggression like a group to affiliate with, just creates a nigger.

[Anonymous No.19944096]

>>19943479
>new Jüngerposter
Big shoes to fill.

[Anonymous No.19944824]

>>19931730
a boy does not become a man until he has a child and takes responsibility for something other than himself.

[Anonymous No.19944867]

>>19931711
I can kinda relate. Moses' life was 40, 40, 40. If Jesus was allowed to live on Earth that long, we would have had something similar going on. Instead, Jesus brought us 30, and then he went to Heaven for eternity. I prefer Jesus' route.

[Anonymous No.19945028]

>>19943479
>new Jüngerposter
The last time I did a high effort Jünger thread it was infested with neo nazi /pol/ tards trying to derail the thread. Fun, but way too much nonsense. Mentioning On The Marble Cliffs, his war diaries (German Officer in Occupied Paris), The Peace, etc. will bring retards out of the woodwork who loved Storm of Steel (especially the 1929 version that Jünger himself revised and considered immature) but were horrified to find that he saw Hitler as a murderous fool and the nahtzees as dumb thugs.

[Anonymous No.19945033]

>>19931730
only siths deal in absolutes

[Anonymous No.19945506]

>>19945028
It was mostly one guy who did that because he didn't like Jungerposter.

[Anonymous No.19945666]

To the people are choosing to interpret this physically, don't let the extremely high standards of an athlete make you complacent. An active 40 year old with a decent diet will still mog the average Zoomer and Millenial. Also, sheer physical strength is something that requires decades of work, and is the last thing to go.

[Anonymous No.19945717]

>>19931711
G'day, mates.
Likely true. I'm 39 (fortieth year, right?), and for the first time in my life, I'm considering buying a ute (Google it if the slang is getting you down) instead of a sedan or hatchback. I'm glad to know that it doesn't necessarily mean I'm having a midlife crisis.

[Anonymous No.19945719]

>>19945666
Thanks for the life advice, Satan. Can always count on you.

[Anonymous No.19946559]

>>19945666
>against physical interpretation
>for physical interpretation
Yes Satan.

[Anonymous No.19946640]

>>19946559
Your reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired. My comment was directed at the people taking the physical interpretation, it wasn't an undermining of said intepretation.

[Anonymous No.19946948]

>>19946640
>physical interpretation
cringe

[Anonymous No.19946953]

>>19946948
shoo

[Anonymous No.19947221]

Where do I start?

[Anonymous No.19948196]

>>19946953
Go back to redit if you want to worship hormones.

[Anonymous No.19948360]

>>19932843
Didn't he live to be almost 100?

[Anonymous No.19948382]

>>19948196
shoo

[Anonymous No.19948388]

>>19948196
YWNBAW

[Anonymous No.19948440]

>>19932843
Imagine sitting on the internet all day attacking things you have no knowledge of.
Why are trannies and poltards like this?

[Anonymous No.19948453]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=z7HjVth-rAc

[Anonymous No.19949379]

>>19931711
There's hope for me then

[Anonymous No.19949391]

>>19932860
Why is Jung laughing at this? Please explain

[Anonymous No.19950385]

>>19931711
In some people it doesn't show until then, but in others a masculine soul is evident in their fourteenth year rather than their fortieth.

[Anonymous No.19950449]

>>19948360
102 actually.

[Anonymous No.19950513]

>>19950385
Not his point.
Can you retards learn to read?

[Anonymous No.19950522]

>>19944824
This. Your view on life completely changes when you have kids.

[Anonymous No.19950523]

>>19937569
>uhh akshually it's not sexual it's just an observation I'M JUST OBSERVING
you are so transparent it's embarrassing

[Anonymous No.19950544]

>>19931711
So Alexander The Great wasn't truly masculine? Lol

[Anonymous No.19950552]

>>19934686
>read more
Think more, retard

[Anonymous No.19950555]

>>19950513
Can you please tell me what I am lost on exactly?

[Anonymous No.19950556]

>>19950544
>>19950513

[Anonymous No.19950565]

>>19950555
>true masculinity
As in something a teenager would never have. Authority, paternal knowledge.

[Anonymous No.19950576]

>>19950565
That's what you consider masculinity? I deem intellect to be the highest point of masculinity, and I deem also that authority means nothing.

[Anonymous No.19950582]

>>19950576
Isn't there authority in intellect?

[Anonymous No.19950585]

>>19950582
Well, I would never say that, but it's an interesting idea. What do you mean by it?

[Anonymous No.19950597]

>>19931730
Not necessarily in all cases, though.

[Anonymous No.19950619]

>>19931730
I of course see the irony in this, which I think is simply due to the limits of language, but I still think you have quite a bit of validity. Some people adhere still by the principle that what is complex is greater, some advance into another principle, that being one of simplicity being supreme. These are all just that though, principles, and principles tend to stand in the way of truth. They serve only as stepping stones to guide us to truth. Anyway, once someone understands what complexity and nuance actually mean, you could say he meets a bit of masculinity, but I hesitate to call it a barrier, as if that were true, most of us couldn't think to bear the title of man.

[Anonymous No.19950693]

>>19950585
Junger, Plato, or anyone involved in intellectual discourse are authorities. The random person on the street or internet are not.

[Anonymous No.19950771]

Schopenhauer says the ability to converse with others is found at 40 (worded way better than I just did). He also says the prime of intuiting ideas is 28. I hate mentioning it but since it’s in favor of his character, let me say: both these truths are backed by his biography.

[Anonymous No.19950966]

>>19948360
so? he's one man

[Anonymous No.19951063]

>>19931711
He became eventually more retarded after storm and steel so I doubt it

[Anonymous No.19951072]

why do so many older men look like lesbians these days?

[Anonymous No.19951091]

Naturally speaking most men died before 40 so no, it does not make sense for nature to develop a species that reaches maturity until 40.

[Anonymous No.19951189]

>>19951063
>>19945028

[Anonymous No.19951195]

>>19951091
Are you trying to be dumbest in chat?

[Anonymous No.19951201]

>>19951091
Who is this "nature" and what sense does she want?

[Anonymous No.19951298]

>>19951201
If you can impregnate a woman you are already a man in the eyes of nature. She wants and cares only about survival

[Anonymous No.19951854]

>>19948453
Is this jungerfag's channel?

[Anonymous No.19952027]

>>19951072
Why are you concerned with how older men look like?

[Anonymous No.19952058]

>>19951091
>Naturally speaking most men died before 40
This is a meme, stop repeating it. There are nomadic tribes who do not make any use of modern society with members reaching old age. STOP FALLING FOR ENLIGHTENMENT/POST-ENLIGHTENMENT MEMES YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT

[Anonymous No.19952085]

>>19932155
Checked muslimbro.

[Anonymous No.19953370]

Bump

[Anonymous No.19953697]

>>19936202
This. Tao Te Ching paraphrase: "To become a man one must become like their father. A virtuous man emulates his father."

[Anonymous No.19953742]

>>19953697
>Disclaimer: This statement only applies if your father wasn't an asshole.

[Anonymous No.19954202]

>>19934686
>I mean I agree and disagree
Midwit

[Anonymous No.19954866]

>>19945028
I used to post junger quite a lot and helped with the small junger reading guide on the /lit/ wiki.
I lost interest in 2020 discussing him because any time I mentioned him a poltard conservative or twittertard liberal would come out of their cave and yell, it's fitting though since that has always been the case with his writing pretty much.
I come here like once every week for an hour tops now just to get a book recommendation.

[Anonymous No.19955129]

>>19954866
There were some great threads but most people don't read so they just attack anyone who does.

[Anonymous No.19955137]

>>19954866
I miss you Jungerbro. Any other authors you'd recommend to a Junger fan?

[Anonymous No.19955161]

>>19953742
I feel like any son who consideres his father an asshole is an inherently bad person, even if his assessment is correct. In such a situation it is a case of 'like father, like son'. Except a degredation has occured, because it would certainly be better for a man to be an asshole and have an asshole father, who he loves, than for him to be an asshole with an asshole father who he has no filial piety for.

[Anonymous No.19955176]

>>19955137
That's not jungerposter. He got permabanned.

[Anonymous No.19955229]

>>19955161
You sound idealistic. The world doesn't conform to your way of thinking, unfortunately. My father was a child molester and fraud artist. There is no inherent worth to a man given by the success of his sperm in impregnating a woman. It is a biological fact devoid of meaning; in situations like mine, you see this clearly. Coincidentally, Jünger touches on this in Eumeswil; note the protagonist's use of the term "genitor," basically sperm donor, for the man that he might call father but chooses not to bestow that respect on him. "I forgo having a father...I seek a man for whom I can feel respect." (p. 43)

[Anonymous No.19955545]

>>19938653
How about learning German?

[Anonymous No.19955564]

>>19949391
He saw your penis

[Anonymous No.19955592]

Masculinity was abolished during the 60s. The only thing that is left is a vague blob with penises that don't have any purpose which why so many of them transition to become women and why the rest of them just sit inside their house and play video games or commit suicide.

Women are the only legitimate subject under progressive neoliberal capitalism.

[Anonymous No.19955741]

>>19937534
>le formal argument xDDDDDDDDD

[Anonymous No.19956543]

>>19955592
Wrong. Read BAP

[Anonymous No.19957494]

>>19955545
yeah i'll read it in 10 years.

[Anonymous No.19957659]

>>19945028
>(especially the 1929 version that Jünger himself revised and considered immature)
Have you considered part of the appeal was his youth and vitality in the first place? Who gives a fuck what old Junger thought about younger Junger? He's not the same man at that point.

[Anonymous No.19958617]

>>19944824
>takes responsibility for something other than himself.
But that already happens if you somehow acquire a gf?

[Anonymous No.19959014]

>>19957659
He doesn't edit that out retard. It's just some nazi grifter (You) who wanted to use his popular image

[Anonymous No.19959614]

>>19958617
How to do that?

[Anonymous No.19959822]

>>19959614
I don't know, man...

[Anonymous No.19959830]

>>19947221
And read the threads on warosu if you need help. 2020 and 2021 mainly

[Anonymous No.19960648]

So which version of Storm of Steel?

[Anonymous No.19960836]

>>19960648
hmm, the poorly edited draft / grift version self-published and shilled to twitter retards who don't actually read, or the one jünger considered his final version and the far superior one, which is published by penguin in english? very tough decision anon, I wonder
>>/lit/thread/S19004570#p19004695

[Anonymous No.19961492]

>>19960836
He betrayed the Nazis even though they were his part.

[Anonymous No.19961510]

I would like to mention that Jünger was talking about NPCs before it was cool.
>During these past years, solipsism has emerged as a particularly difficult hurdle in the evolution of my thought. This is not only a product of isolation, it is also related to a temptation to embrace misanthropy, a trait that one cannot resist strongly enough in oneself. When surrounded by these crowds who have renounced free will, I feel more and more alienated, and sometimes it seems as if these people were not even there or that they were merely specious outlines constructed of half-demonic, half-mechanical materials.
He goes on more about solipsism:
>Active solipsism: the power that lets us dream the world. We dream ourselves into health or death; if we could dream more powerfully, we would become immortal. That is seductive, yet you always have to think of the dangers…
from A German Officer in Occupied Paris (p. 94)

[Anonymous No.19962416]

>>19961510
Interesting

[Anonymous No.19963241]

>>19931711
To be a masculine human, first you need to be human.

[Anonymous No.19963250]

>>19961510
Nazis lost and hilter killed himself in a shithole bunker while german women took slavic seed

[Anonymous No.19963459]

>>19937882
You believe that E and T makes trans people their preferred gender?

[Anonymous No.19964492]

So what is a man?

[Anonymous No.19964600]

>>19955161
I feel like any son who consideres his father an asshole is an inherently bad person, even if his assessment is correct.
i don't understand what you mean by this. my dad, for instance, was a real dick. when i was growing up he would rape my sisters constantly and just smoke weed all the time throwing rage tantrums. then, when he was facing prison-time for his depraved actions, he shot himself in a motel room. he didnt even leave a note—a total lack of common courtesy. he's the polar opposite of what i imagine a virtuous man to be like; how could i deny that he was an asshole just because it's my dad? that just seems delusional

[Anonymous No.19964603]

>>19964600
forgot to greentext the first line

[Anonymous No.19964617]

>>19950619
The only truth that can be found in our chaotic world, if there even are that many, is through the combination of simplicity and complexity, and knowing when one must replace the other.

[Anonymous No.19964687]

>>19964600
There have been two replies to that post and both mention their father having molested kids. Christ. I sure look like a prick now, huh? I can't even imagine what you have gone through. There are certain crimes, I think, that must cut you off from and the community of Men. Like the concept of the homo sacer. All your social ties you had beforehand should be rendered null.
By all means, anon, don't even think of yourself as his son. In my defense, though, when I hear "asshole" I don't think of incestuous rape. What I had in mind was a zoomer or millenial type saying they hate spending time with his family over the holidays, you know? There's something distasteful about that. I feel like that's a sentiment that has increased a lot in recent years. People resenting their parents. And in those cases, I feel like that reflects worse on the child than the parent, even if the parent is a bit of an asshole, because that's not something that warrants overthrowing filial love for. A good person and a good son would love his father in spite of his minor flaws. So if the parent is an asshole, you can only assume this person inherited that trait.

[Anonymous No.19964849]

>>19931711
was 36 for me

[Anonymous No.19964875]

>>19932155
which scholars? care to name a few?

[Anonymous No.19964887]

>>19944867
lol

[Anonymous No.19965114]

>>19964687
Surprisingly reasonable reply.
>>19963250
Jünger despised the nazis and Hitler

[Anonymous No.19965242]

>>19963459
Yea

[Anonymous No.19965974]

>>19965114
He loved Hitler, but he was a coward liberal.

[Anonymous No.19966027]

>>19945028
I don't understand the hate the 1929 translation gets, the novelty of Storm of Steel in the first place is that it's "immature". There are plenty of books out there by old men musing about the waste of war, there are far fewer by young men embracing the role they've been thrown into.

[Anonymous No.19966034]

>>19951298
You're wrong, Nature told me so.

[Anonymous No.19966120]

>>19951091
>>19952058
Yeah that is a complete lie that we have been fed so we accept our tyrannical healthcare system without question.
>Thank God we have our advanced medicine that gradually shut out any natural healing practices and now essentially boils down to poisoning ourselves nonstop with synthetic drugs and taking a scalpel to our bodies at every opportunity!
For fuck's sake, I dare say that the average person thousands of years ago was way healthier than the average person today.

[Anonymous No.19966223]

>>19966027
you have no idea what you are talking about and are clearly only familiar with the twitter tard version, unironically kill yourself

[Anonymous No.19966281]

>>19965974
>He loved Hitler
no.
he wrote a novel (on the marble cliffs, 1939) as a thinly veiled portrayal of the nazis as evil, primitive destroyers of civilization
in his war diaries he calls Hitler (under the pseudonym Kniebolo as a precaution) satanic, a demagogue, "Cainite," and tells how horrifying the atrocities he was ordering were, including against jews, in general portrays him as a mass murderer and fool bringing his country to ruin
>The greatest theft that Kniébolo has perpetrated on the nation is the theft of law—that is to say, he has robbed the Germans of the possibility of having legal rights or feeling that they have any legal recourse in response to the tribulation that is inflicted upon them, or that threatens them. To be sure, the people per se have made themselves complicit by their acclamation—that was the terrible, alarming undercurrent audible beneath the cheering orgies of jubilation. Heraclitus got to the core of the matter when he said, “the tongues of demagogues are as sharp as the butcher’s knife.” 247
>Kniébolo’s speeches are like bankruptcy hearings; in order to stall for time, the insolvent person promises to pay his creditors fantastic profits. 274
>After a period of great fasting, the German was led to the mountaintop by Kniébolo and shown dominion over the world. It did not take much urging before he was worshipping his tempter. 349

[Anonymous No.19966569]

>>19966223
I read the Penguin version years before the Twitter guy ever put out his. You're just revealing yourself as a seething faggot. You can't actually address what I've said, only cry about muh Twitter natzees.

[Anonymous No.19966690]

>>19966027
Probably because the guy spammed the internet for years and ruined every thread for his unedited trash.

[Anonymous No.19966914]

>>19945028
Jünger is hard author to discuss, even more when politics is defined by opposite extremes nowadays.
The 1929 version is fine tho, it's just that many think Jünger is just Storm of Steel and take it for granted. I can't see why reading the pure (yet immature) thoughts he had at that time couldn't be a good experience if you can see the big picture. Even more if you proceed to read his other books and see the changes on his way of thinking.

[Anonymous No.19966925]

>>19960836
>hmm, the poorly edited draft / grift version self-published and shilled to twitter retards who don't actually read, or the one jünger considered his final version and the far superior one, which is published by penguin in english?

[Anonymous No.19966969]

>>19958617
>>19959822
>need to take care of your gf
Idiots. A proper woman should be able to take care of herself while you, the man, do the rest.

[Anonymous No.19966975]

>>19960836
Both versions are fine, there's no reason to not enjoy unfiltered Jünger as the growth in his vision feel even more intense and genuine if you red this version. It also gives a better historical perspective of the german soldier in WW1 which is essential to understand how WW2 became a thing.
People are so afraid of /pol/ they become some equally retarded anti-/pol/, both which can't understand Jünger due to a biased and immature view on everything.

[Anonymous No.19966984]

>>19964875
Al Tabari for example. Al Zamakshari is another. There’s quite a few actually, it’s because in Islam Prophethood doesn’t start until 40.

[Anonymous No.19967050]

>>19966975
Not at all true. But if you want the 1929 get this version

[Anonymous No.19967108]

>>19941112
>NOOOOOOO, it is only YOU who has lost his inherent masculinity, it is not at all probable that state jurisdiction and the restrictions they have posed on society are affecting men as a whole!

[Anonymous No.19967368]

>>19937534
>no u

[Anonymous No.19967378]

>>19931711
Thinking is stored in the balls

[Anonymous No.19967385]

>>19964875
Whoever passes forty without his virtue overpowering his vice, let him get ready for hellfire. This advice contains enough for people of knowledge.

Imam Al-Ghazali

[Anonymous No.19967514]

>>19958617
How are you this retarded... Raising a fucking living human thing is nowhere near the same level of "responsibility" as "having a gf". It's obvious you've literally never had either a gf or a child.

[Anonymous No.19968719]

>>19967514
Raising a kid is harder

[Anonymous No.19968730]

>>19931730
A child does not become a man until he starts raising his kid
simple as

[Anonymous No.19968740]

>>19935612
Amen good point, cant wait until he comes back.

[Anonymous No.19968784]

>>19950523
Not him but Junger is right; there is a sort of "naive femininity" in that period; before she is a child, and after she is marred by the notion of sexuality

[Anonymous No.19969802]

>>19968730
Nah. More important to go to war.

[Anonymous No.19970948]

>>19968784
Is that what he means?

[Anonymous No.19971106]

>>19931711
Depends how of good they have lived.

Men are in their prime in their late 30s and early 40s, provided they have lead a physically active life, have secured a business, and have remained intellectually active (not limited to read books).

Most people, probably me included, will reach 40s being fat, poor, lonely, resentful, and in my case a stupid snob.

[Anonymous No.19972306]

>>19971106
What about pre-business?

[Anonymous No.19972539]

>>19969802
>not a man until you let a drill instructor smack your peepee around so you can kill innocents with the permission of your authoritarian government, absolving you of all responsibility for your actions, for the interests of global corporations so you can return home and let your mother admonish you for being a hero and you can show off your new wife, who was just the first girl to jump on your dick for a greencard
War isn't honorable in the greatest of circumstances, let alone the "wars" we got today. If you went to war and came back, it wasn't because you were strong or weak, it was because you were lucky.

[Anonymous No.19972551]

>>19969802
Honestly, you can't get more boyish than thinking going to war is somehow a mark of honor.

[Anonymous No.19972570]

Socrates said a man's prime is between the ages of 25 and 55. Carlyle similarly has an interesting quote in Sartor Resartus about how every man should be locked in a barrel until his 25th birthday.

[Anonymous No.19974051]

>>19972570
Was Carlyle retarded?

[Anonymous No.19974063]

>>19974051
No.

[Anonymous No.19974541]

>>19945666
Begone Satan

[Anonymous No.19974583]

>>19945666

[Anonymous No.19975695]

>>19974063
Seems he was.

[Anonymous No.19976771]

>>19945033