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Any books on the ephemeral nature of beauty? About how quickly passes and you may never hold it again.

>> No.19653554

>>19653544
Mishima comes to mind. You know, "The Decay of the Angel" and all that. Some of Fitzgerald's stories also fit the bill -- "Benjamin Button," "Oh, Russet Witch!" (or whatever it's called).

>> No.19653566

>>19653544
Picture of Dorian Gray

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>>19653544
I am reading now Ezra's ABC of Reading and The Serious Artist and have been having trouble conceptualizing his whole critical structure by which he defines good art, namely what is true to human nature and celebrates beauty, real beauty. But he distinguishes between talking about beauty and such things by what could be objectively beautiful, the demarcations for this qualification being clarity of meaning and in poetry the condensed word charged by emotion, and again, meaning.
The only problem i'm having is his reference continually to meaning, for there is never anywhere inside Pound or out that would tip one off as to what true artistic meaning is in literature. I guess what I'm struggling with is not the absence of meaning, for i know meaning to be entirely evident in any work of art, but a system for deducing and reducing all vectors of present meaning into something resembling an apriori conception of pure meaning, this being what E considers the most clear and beautiful.

>> No.19654833

>>19654810
Why don't you read the ABC of Not Being a Faggot lmao

>> No.19655171

>>19654833
>Why don't you read the ABC of Not Being a Faggot lmao
Stop bullying the mathematician.

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>>19653554
>Mishima comes to mind. You know, "The Decay of the Angel" and all that. Some of Fitzgerald's stories also fit the bill -- "Benjamin Button," "Oh, Russet Witch!" (or whatever it's called).

>> No.19655188

>>19654810
I've wondered something like this myself with Pound. It's so funny that the modernists are often misunderstood as "subjectivists" or "expressionists" who think that any "meaning" has validity as long as it's expressed sincerely, whereas a lot of modernists seem to be openly intent on finding and revealing objective meaning (despite being aware that this is a tragic quest).

Do you know about his connection to Yeats, who was a mystic who definitely did believe in transcendent meaning and the "subordination of the low to the high" in art and in all other things? This also helps to explain Pound's politics.

>> No.19655194

>>19653544
Death in Venice

>> No.19655236

>>19653544
Lolita