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Are his books worth reading?

>> No.19591019

nah, just usual billionaire ghost-writer self help nonsense
maybe worth reading if you find anything "written" by a historically significant person worth looking into

>> No.19591193

No, and it isn't a partisan thing for me. I reject most ghost-written books on principle, and that includes a number of Dem books that spring to mind, though Art of the Deal, written long before Trump became a political figure, is probably closer to Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess in ghost-written spirit.

>> No.19591278

Look at any of his speeches and ask yourself if that man is capable of writing a book

>> No.19591295 [DELETED] 

>>19591016
>>19591019
>>19591193
>>19591278
Good afternoon /lit/
Pres. Donald J. Trump here,
AMA

>> No.19591441

>>19591016
Art of the Deal is worth the read. Once he enters politics his books are not worth reading. I’m a trump supporter but you’d get more watching his rally’s or speeches

>> No.19591447

>>19591016
>>19591019
>>19591193
>>19591278
>>19591295
>>19591441
this guy lost to SLEEPY JOE lmao

>> No.19591468

>>19591016
everyone should read art of teh deal

>> No.19592044

>>19591447
It was RIGGED

>> No.19592088

>>19591016
Unironically, the Art of the Deal audiobook narrated by Kaleo Griffith was a really comfy listen.

>> No.19592122

>>19591447
>lost

>> No.19592249

Yes, read this, then Jordan Peterson, then a podcast by Joe Rogan, then Ben Shapiro, then some Steven Crowder. Just keep on chugging down the griftent of every anger merchant under the sun, program a recommender system so that you only get the angriest posts from Facebook directly burned into your brain, take meth and crack at the same time to make yourself even more until the anger bursts your head into flames more than that of a Vietnamese monk, then meditate 24/7 on the ugliest hunchback milkman fucking your mom and your significant other and having disgusting mutant frog babies with them.

Do all of this until your anger makes your head explode, and you will achieve true Nirvana

>> No.19592295

>>19591441
>rally’s
you really are a Trump supporter

>> No.19592310

I actually got memed into reading this, thinking I would maybe learn some shit about finance and economics, but it's literally just Trump bitching about zoning laws for 200 pages.

>> No.19592312

>>19591016
His book on golf, but it is out of print

>> No.19592362
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My mom bought it for me shortly after he won in 2016.

In that regard, yeah it's great. There was a time (1987) when people wanted to know this man's opinions. The book was wildly successful. What did Donald Trump, millionaire playboy real estate developer, want people to know? The book is a tell-all, and he's fucking obviously not going to reveal anything important, so what did he want people to know and think n 1987? That is where it's interesting. He sets up a mythology for himself, and at one point does a mea culpa for knocking down a very large, very beautiful art deco building to build a tall glass-and-steel-rectangle skyscraper; and people LOVED him for knocking it down. It was a very weird period, as a lot of the stuff that we consider failures and lies was actually new and, in some ways, promising. It's weird to see him reference his family. At one point he talks about he and his wife Ivana, and how they were thinking very hard about which preschool to send their daughter, Ivanka, to. There's a lot of real-estate and banking advice in there, and I'm just going to say that all of it is worthless. Either he was lying, had no idea what he was talking about, or conditions have so radically changed that it's pointless because the advice no longer applies. He does make a very good point about being headstrong, never taking no for an answer, and just doing whatever the fuck you want and making the nerds and losers keep up with you (his entire life he's been doing that, and if he keeps moving he'll die before they can catch up with him). The only thing that I'd say is "revealing" about it is that he was, and still is, really insecure about not being part of In Crowd. This seems to be the case both with Jews and with WASPs. An exclusive blood-class of snooty and wealthy people Who Matter is something that he wants to be part of (hence why all of his grandchildren will view themselves as Israelis and not the descendants of Donald Trump).

Trump says that every word in the book is something that he wrote, and that Schwartz just edited it for typos. Schwartz, and SI Newhouse (the then-owner of Conde Nast, the publisher) said, after Trump's presidential victory, that literally every word is fictional, that they were contracted by a 3rd Party to write this fiction, that Trump had literally zero hand in it, and that Trump has never read it. That's just patently absurd if you look at the book's contents (if Trump didn't have a hand in it then he's very clearly read it and mimics "his" mannerisms in it) and its history prior to his election. Also, Schwartz and Newhouse are part of The Tribe, so I just don't trust anything that they say on principal. My personal take is that Trump dictated various vignettes and stories to Schwartz, and then Schwartz made it into a coherent book (the frame story is telling you about a day in the life of Trump).

>> No.19592367

>>19591016
>his

>> No.19592373
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>>19592249
you will never be a woman

>> No.19592382

>>19592362
Also, to defend my mom, she remembered when the book came out and how big of a deal (heh) that it was, so it was sort of a historical note for her. "I remember when that guy was wrote this book, and now he's president!".

>> No.19592385

>>19592249
>Joe Rogan is an anger merchant.

The dude literally spends half his time telling people to just chill and do DMT. You keep using that phrase. I do not think it means what you think it means.

>> No.19592426

>>19591016
That one is, the rest probably are not. I don't care what the edgelords say, Art of the Deal is fun.

>> No.19592471

>>19592249
>anger merchant
Excellent choice of words,I will start using this now

>> No.19592563

>>19592362
>>19592382
>knocking down a very large, very beautiful art deco building to build a tall glass-and-steel-rectangle skyscraper; and people LOVED him for knocking it down.
>Trump says that every word in the book is something that he wrote, and that Schwartz just edited it for typos. Schwartz, and SI Newhouse (the then-owner of Conde Nast, the publisher) said, after Trump's presidential victory, that literally every word is fictional, that they were contracted by a 3rd Party to write this fiction, that Trump had literally zero hand in it, and that Trump has never read it.
The context of the last wild ~7 years makes the more interesting stuff like this bubble to the surface, but is there more of it in the book or does your effort post already cover it?

>> No.19592641

>>19591447
America is the only loser

>> No.19592667

>>19591016
I liked him in 2015,so I read the book. It's a decent read. Found out some interesting things about him.
>>19591441
I read two of Junior's books, thee were okay, but mediocre at best.
>>19592044
Digits confirm

>> No.19593529

It's a comfy read, if only the media read it during his campaign and he never would have won.
Also some kino foreshadowing:
>Until then, I’d never understood how Jimmy Carter became president. The answer is that as poorly qualified as he was for the job, Jimmy Carter had the nerve, the guts, the balls, to ask for something extraordinary. That ability above all helped him get elected president. But then, of course, the American people caught on pretty quickly that Carter couldn’t do the job, and he lost in a landslide when he ran for reelection.

>> No.19593723

>>19592563
You could go through it with a fine-toothed comb and ask "?????what did he mean by this????" for every line, but honestly, given that there's a 29 year gap between the book and his presidency, and the fact that he was consciously putting out something such that people who read it read what he wanted them to read, I don't think that there's anything too juicy in there. I might be forgetting something interesting, but that bit about him and the WASPs was the only thing that really activated my almonds. Even then, it was only because I've seen and heard stuff about him after having read the book that made me go "ah, this connects with something he said in the book". I'm sure if you take any given person in that book and dig into them, you'll find all sorts of shady stuff (like his father knowingly funding Zionist terrorism), and you'll probably find them viciously denouncing Trump to try and keep people from connecting too many dots. People see Trump as the meme-president steak salesman, but he was actually really well connected in New York, and a lot of the people who he bumped elbows with were, and still are, in positions a LOT more fragile than Roy Cohn was.

Also, a lot of the rhetoric he used about CHYNA is presaged here, but with Japan. That's not a really novel take because, as CCP shills love to point out and are entirely correct for pointing out, a lot of the Kosher (heh) narrative on China is in fact just recycled Yellow Peril stuff from the 80s, but swapping out China for Japan. That doesn't mean that this is WRONG to do, or notice, because China IS a threat to the average White dude's livelihood, but novelty and truth are not the same thing.

>> No.19593784

>>19591016
it's ok to pass the time. I gotta say I got a decent confidence boost, bc of his totally midless, American-style erratic behaviour is based on excessive self-confidence.

But overall: >>19591019

>> No.19593975

>>19591447
>lost
if you lose because it was rigged that means you actually won

>> No.19594230

>>19591019
>billionaire

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>>19593723
thanks. I should have been more clear though, I wasn't digging for hidden political insights. I meant like bizarre things like knocking down old buildings to make room for newer wealthier buildings while people who are too poor to be involved in the project cheer for it. And the death of author manifesting itself so sudden and violently that 20+ years later the publisher is willing to say that you haven't even read a word of the book that was sold under your own name, let alone write any of it.

>> No.19594464

>>19592249
your cripplingly shallow youtube history is showing

>> No.19595111

>>19594464
>>19592373
>>19592385
He was being figurative and exaggerating in his post and you guys took it literally

>> No.19595117

>>19591441
>I’m a trump supporter
why?

>> No.19595909

>>19593975
oh DAMN! Rigged??? Holy crap dude, you gotta get this info to the police, immediately!

>> No.19595912

>>19591019
How much of them were ghost-written?

This will be a serious historical point 200 years from now.

>> No.19595918

>>19592385
Joe Rogan is basically if you took a bunch of hippie new-agey John Lennon-Yoko Ono bullshit and then added random interludes about standup comedy and martial arts.

>> No.19595924

>>19591016
They are like cocaine, it motivates you a lot and it wears off in 30 minutes

>> No.19595982

>>19595111
Don't mind them, they were duped by tge anger industrial complex