/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19530787]

What book will most shock and break the normie mind?

[Anonymous No.19530871]

>>19530787
My diary desu

[Anonymous No.19530874]

Mitchell Heismans suicide note

[Anonymous No.19530877]

>>19530787
Book insulting niggers, women and products

[Anonymous No.19530882]

[Anonymous No.19530895]

>>19530787
Youd think it would be something political but it's actually subjects like alternative history, flat earth, demons and ufos. Normies can classify racism or sexism as just le bigot but they dont have a model for people who question very basic facts about reality apart from "crazy person" and they have very strong aversion to crazy people.

[Anonymous No.19530896]

>>19530787
Debord is pretty dated and something of a bait-and-switch because half the book is him seething that the a communist revolution will solve everything. You should move on to McLuhan, Baudrillard, or even Bataille, or if you want a better grasp on idealism as a foundation, with less ressentiment than Debord has, go through Plato, Spinoza, and Nietzsche. Kant and Deleuze if you enjoy pain

[Anonymous No.19530899]

>>19530874
(Pbuh)

[Anonymous No.19530903]

>>19530787
Der Einzige und sein Eigentum

[Anonymous No.19530909]

>>19530895
>alternative history
Stupid term. All history is interpretation.

[Anonymous No.19530917]

>>19530909
There is a mainstream consensus that eg Atlantis did not exist. I use alternative history to refer to theories which contradict these sorts of beliefs.

[Anonymous No.19530926]

>>19530909
>>19530917
Alternate history is already in use as a term for "what if" historical exercises, e.g. what if Napoleon won Waterloo, or Caesar died in Gaul, or the South won the US Civil War. People write whole books on this. What you guys are thinking of would be more historiography or pseudo-history, respectively

[Anonymous No.19530936]

>>19530787
>Implying normies read or even think

[Anonymous No.19530944]

>>19530936
Hypothetically, it they did read a book, would it impact their worldview or would they just think of it as another of their capeshit movies?

[Anonymous No.19530945]

>>19530787
What a bad oversimplification and misunderstanding of Debord your pic is, OP...

[Anonymous No.19530956]

>>19530926
It is quite literally an alternative to mainstream consensus

[Anonymous No.19530958]

>>19530945
>misunderstanding
The author is dead

[Anonymous No.19530966]

>>19530956
Fine, enjoy confusing people. The bigfoot guys call themselves crypto-zoologists, not alternative zoologists, because they study "hidden" animals. Obviously your version of history must be similar or it wouldn't be so disputed. It's not alternate, you aren't altering the actual events that took place and their consequences.

[Anonymous No.19530967]

>>19530944
The second option, obviously.

[Anonymous No.19530969]

>>19530926
Alternative history also reinterprets facts to come to different conclusions, more along the lines of Dee and Kelley founding multiple occult orders and working as spies in Europe as part of a plan within the Secret College. It's linked with historiography but is more often the cutting edge of anthropology and other disciplines undermining the status quo before their time.

[Anonymous No.19530974]

>>19530958
And? It's a clear misunderstanding if you reduce the spectacle to le social media bad.

[Anonymous No.19530984]

>>19530966
The term is already used in the way I described; I didn't make it up myself. It is a very straightforward use of the word alternative, which means an other possibility. It doesn't much matter if people take offense at it because they are never going to consider the theories anyway, so they are not part of the group for which the term exists.

[Anonymous No.19530994]

>>19530967
What if we are the normies, and we have been misinterpreting capeshit all along?

[Anonymous No.19530995]

>>19530969
>>19530984
If people can't get past the label they won't make it to the substance. Not doing yourself any favors imo

[Anonymous No.19531001]

>>19530787
>you are already familiar with these
None of those existed when the French wrote their book

[Anonymous No.19531009]

>>19530995
Most people will not consider the theories at all. That's literally the topic of the thread. Anybody willing to consider that Atlantis existed is not going to be put off by stylistic quibbles.

[Anonymous No.19531081]

>>19531009
I think our initial impression that normalfucks aren't into any of this is mistaken. Many of them tend to hold some very conspiratorial beliefs, albeit mainline and often outright disinfo. I think well researched alt history can break them.

[Anonymous No.19531084]

>>19530787
If you want to know what God is, there is no better way than through reading Sade.

[v_v !!+e0M0fBMYzt No.19531134]

[Anonymous No.19531140]

>>19531081
There are no consequences for a normal person who "believes" or "disbelieves" in Atlantis. Pragmatically speaking it is entirely without value for them. Why it matters to you I won't attempt to guess but I imagine you don't share many of the concerns of the people you so want to educate.

[Anonymous No.19531149]

>>19531140
It is damaging to social status to believe in things like Atlantis. Its distinctly associated with lower class people who are cut out of elite cultural circles.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.19531154]

>>19530909
>Stupid term. All history is interpretation.

this assertion is more offensive to the average normalfaggot than a thousand racial slurs

[Anonymous No.19531363]

>>19530936
>>19530944
>>19530967

Since you're here on a literature board, I hope you've all read Crime and Punishment. Raskolnikov's myopic arrogance leads him to label "normies" as "louses." It's a form of ideological dehumanization. It's only until Raskolnikov witnesses the bravery and kindness of these "louses" in the face of suffering. Learn from a book for once and don't become like Raskolnikov.

[Anonymous No.19531436]

>>19530917
Why yes I do believe that Athens singlehandedly saved Eurasia from the Atlantoid menace.

[Anonymous No.19531458]

>hurr
Monopoly of the means of communication in a democracy to manipulate public opinion and dictate public policy, basically.

[Anonymous No.19531465]

>>19531436
we still here and we coming for you wyteboi

[Anonymous No.19531479]

Unironically a book like Chaos by Tom O'Neill which is incredibly accessible but which really shows how many "conspiracy theories" are actually true. The problem is that most normies would read it and think "woah that's fucked up!" and then forget about it a week later and go on with their normie lives. Which, I can't really blame them desu.

[Anonymous No.19531499]

Just bring up things that don't fit the narrative and have been stomped down the memory hole. Not a book, but here a Jersey murder / suicided that doesn't quite add up. This was on the news for less than 48 hours.

https://abc7ny.com/judge-esther-salas-roy-hollander-epstein-nj-shooting/6324993/

[Anonymous No.19531500]

>>19531154
Tbh you fucking suck Butters. Get out of here.

[Anonymous No.19531521]

>>19530882
What does this book even go over?

[Anonymous No.19531582]

>>19531134
This

[Anonymous No.19531583]

>>19530787
just show them freedom of speech laws in the western world.
On an 8 rating scale, America which is famous for its constitution is only a 5.73.
Most countries are barely above 4.

[Anonymous No.19531609]

>>19530871
This.

[Anonymous No.19531622]

Tell me more about this spectacle

[Anonymous No.19531658]

>>19530917
>eg Atlantis did not exist
You mean, Santorini?

[Anonymous No.19531937]

>>19531521
Schopenhauer's essays and aphorisms

[Anonymous No.19532428]

>>19530787
I feel like you can bludgeon anyone with a long text. Ideas are like tunes play that ink on loop until their whole mind is dyed

[Anonymous No.19532467]

>>19531521
English speak how

[Anonymous No.19532555]

Depends on the ‘normie’. I would say it’s an anti-establishment type book, so something like Manufacturing Consent, or The Age of Surveillance Capitalism. Maybe if they are really off the beaten path something by Uncle Ted.
Gotta remember, these concepts are fairly obvious, but if you haven’t thought too hard about it, it’s bound to be mind-blowing

[Anonymous No.19532794]

>>19531084
>>19531134
>>19531363
>>19531479
>>19532428
these desu

[Anonymous No.19532896]

>>19530877
Sounds like anything by Mike Ma

[Anonymous No.19532902]

At a certain point of normie, it doesn't matter how potent or well-crafted the pill is, they just will not take it and it will do nothing serious to them. The Epstein case was huge, and certainly a first for many people, and its kind of been shrugged off. Ohh the Queens family and every actor/politician hung out with him? Haha whatever....

[Anonymous No.19533199]

>>19530787
Serial killer diary maybe

[Anonymous No.19533584]

Dave McGowan - Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream

Gordon Thomas - Journey Into Madness

Douglas Valentine - The Phoenix Program and The CIA as Organized Crime

John Decamp - The Franklin Cover-Up

R. Roy Blake - Objective Evil: Satanic Cults in US Intelligence

the US government, intelligence agencies, and unelected politicians at the highest points of the federal government are complicit in some of the worst crimes against humanity in history, including human trafficking for political blackmail (look up intelligence fusion command and the Finders connection) biological warfare testing against the US population, and occult experimentation using taxpayer dollars (look up michael aquino).

[Anonymous No.19533792]

>>19530871
is it always the same anon that posts this comment everywhere?

[Anonymous No.19533799]

>>19531363
I care for the world, but not for chavs

[Anonymous No.19533833]

>>19530945
>>19530787
this image seems more someone read Heidegger but they misunderstood the theme of Being and Time

[Anonymous No.19533867]

>>19530787
the difference between a genius and a schizo is the ability to order the chaos of reality into a digestible format.
The creator of the op image is the latter.

[Anonymous No.19534038]

>>19530787
right wing critics of capitalism

[Anonymous No.19534064]

>>19530787
manufacturing consent is often overlooked by this board

[Anonymous No.19534086]

>>19531134

>900 pages to stay "capitalism is le bad"
Wow so profound.

[Anonymous No.19534360]

>>19533584
based
look up LOLFIELDANDLOVE on YouTube. sounds silly but it's some autist who studies and did interviews and shit on this very subject. he's incredibly thorough.

[Anonymous No.19534389]

>>19530787
Anything sincerely reactionary.
>The existance of the authentic reactionary is usually a scandal to the progressive. His presence causes a vague discomfort. In the face of the reactionary attitude the progressive experiences a slight scorn, accompanied by surprise and restlessness. In order to soothe his apprehensions, the progressive is in the habit of interpreting this unreasonable and shocking attitude as a guise for self-interest or as a symptom of stupidity; but only the journalist, the politician, and the fool are not secretly flustered before the tenacity with which the loftiest intelligences of the West, for the past one hundred fifty years, amass objections against the modern world. Complacent disdain does not, in fact, seem an adequate rejoinder to an attitude where a Goethe and a Dostoevsky can unite in brotherhood.
—Nicolás Gómez Dávila

[Anonymous No.19534402]

>>19534389
>G*D, this modern technology is SO boring!
>I'm also rich btw
Argument invalid

[Anonymous No.19534487]

https://file.wikileaks.org/file/dutroux-dossier-summary-2005.pdf

[Anonymous No.19534502]

>>19530787

[Anonymous No.19534545]

>>19534487
It's the judiciary report of the Dutroux case, Belgian Epstein-like, here some translated words for you guys
GILLES (12 years old ??) was emasculated by POLO
The other children had to drink his blood
She thinks she saw him cut up again in the dead room
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Girls slashed with razor blades
The lips of X3's vagina were partially cut off and fed to the
dogs
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Hunting prepared by CHARLY and POLO
Present : Charles-Ferdinand NOTHOMB (???)
On another place
Big white house with floor and stables
Park with round basin and fountain coming out of a character
The children were released naked and when they were caught, they were raped
The hunt ended with torture in the showroom
A girl's big lips were sliced and given to the dogs
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Deprivation of a 7-9 year old girl by a dog
Exciting product on the girl's sex
Other children had to lick the blood
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At the age of 10 she had to initiate other children
ndlr: she says however that it happens after her 12 years
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A baby eaten by dogs
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Delivery of a teenager by caesarean section
Baby ripped from the womb and fed to the dogs by POLO
She saw the dismembered mother in the dead room again
SYNTHESIS AA'AA
1074
14/08/2005 = 1Mdl VERGNON
She saw the dead dogs in this room
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She must have eaten human flesh cut up from the corpses in the dead room
She must have eaten pieces of children (fingers) served in gelatin
Good taste - slightly sweet
It caused a huge feeling of hunger and thirst
Drinking blood relieved the sensation of thirst
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Delivery of a single woman
As soon as the baby was born it was eaten by dogs
After the birth: rape of the mother by POLO and CHARLY
The remains of the child must have been eaten by the children present
POLO kills the dogs and eats them like pigs in a butcher shop
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A game consisted in having the children stick knitting needles into the vagina of a girl tied to a board.
girl tied to a board
The girl died and was raped by RALF, POLO, CHARLY, WALTER and ALBERT
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She herself had to cut the throat of a girl with a knife given by POLO
She was then cut up and the inside of the body was given to the dogs
After the murder she was raped
The next day she attended a barbecue

[Anonymous No.19534551]

>>19534545
She talks about another murder she committed on a 3-5 year old girl under the threat that
that it would be her brother who would be killed
She cut the girl open from the sex to the sternum with a cutter
She gave the inside of the body to the dog
Someone cut off the head
the child was eaten by the dogs
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Murder of a young pubescent woman opened by VANDEN EYNDE
She had to give the girl's guts to the dogs who were then shot
The baby was screaming in her mother's belly
She sewed up the belly with the baby inside
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CEDRIC (6-8 years old) was torn apart because he refused to have his throat cut
It is BAUDOUIN who saved her from being cut
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She also had to eat dog excrement
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4-5 years old boy who had his penis sewn to his purse
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She had to cut the vulva of a dog named RITA
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A girl who had her vaginal lips sewn on before she was raped
They also sewed threads to the lips of her sex to spread them apart
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Social evenings
Same process as for the evening shows
Luxurious house with a surrounding wall and a gate, then a winding unlit path
There were stables
Flower beds with flowers
Entrance hall = cream and blue tiles - red fabric on the steps
Marble walls with a painting by BAUDOUIN as a teenager
She spent a whole night with BAUDOUIN - fellatio and sodomy
Presence of maid
She remembers an evening when she was smeared with fresh cream before being taken to
SYNTHESIS AA'AA
1075
14/08/2005 = 1Mdl VERGNON
table on a tray
She was licked and raped
In this house there were many servants
the evening ended in an orgy
Description of the rooms
At the end of another evening a child of 08 years (??) was emasculated
The children present buried the boy in a flowerbed
She remembers a child who was decapitated and then cut up and fried before being eaten
She remembers children hanging from hooks in the kitchen
A certain Solange was enucleated by her and an old lady with a spoon

30 witnesses died during the case, a mix of bad luck and coincidences probably

[Anonymous No.19534675]

>>19534551
Jesus christ is this fucking real

[Anonymous No.19534726]

>>19530787
>a popularizer sheet that seek to summarize spectacle and interprets it in a simple narrative.
Seems a bit ironic :-DDD

[Anonymous No.19534768]

>>19534389
BASED GOMEZDAVILIANO
>>19534402
GET REKT FAGG0T KEK

[Anonymous No.19534775]

>>19534675
Yep. Along with witnesses dropping like flies, a lot of evidence was destroyed or "misplaced."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Dutroux

[Anonymous No.19534805]

>>19534551
>>19534545
And they called it the aristocrats

[Anonymous No.19535925]

I've been reading about the 9/11 investigation on Wikipedia and the whole thing seems super suspect. Are there any good books on this matter?

[Anonymous No.19536200]

>>19535925
go to the WikiSpooks article

[Anonymous No.19536368]

>>19530874
reading it now. holy shit

[Anonymous No.19536414]

>>19534086
Of all the interesting things contained in Capital, that statement or anything even resembling it is in fact not included.

[Anonymous No.19536436]

>>19536414
that capitalism is bad is implicit in every single one of marx’s writings

[Anonymous No.19536457]

>/lit/ is slowly becoming /x/

[Anonymous No.19536495]

>>19536436
Not at all, capitalism simply becomes, creates and reacts. There is no moral dimension to any of it in the mature Marx, if you'll forgive me for indulging in a bit of Althusserianism.

[Anonymous No.19536506]

>>19530896

Why did commies never figure out that mass movements always turn to piss because of the nature of mass men? Men are mostly bad

[Anonymous No.19536531]

>>19536457
nobody reads books anymore anon, just internet fictions

[Anonymous No.19536538]

>>19534487
>This 1235 page document presents a summary of key dates, persons, communications and financial transfers involved in the infamous 1986-1996 Dutroux case, in which a number of girls and young women were kept hidden underground and used as sex slaves before being killed. Dutroux was a figure in the European criminal underworld and the case had connections to other underworld figures, to police corruption and from there to Belgium political figures.
there's no english translation yet?

[Anonymous No.19536563]

The naked lunch
It already broke normie minds in the 50s and we’ve just about undone all social progress since then

[Anonymous No.19536626]

>>19536538
man what
http://fondationprincessedecroy.eu/07-Zandvoort-Gina_Pardaens-Bernaer-GB.html

[Anonymous No.19536630]

>>19536563
I bought it because I heard it was about time traveling wizards. Nope. Just gay sex

[Anonymous No.19536710]

>>19534805
Don't make me laugh anon. I don't want to laugh about these kind of things

[Anonymous No.19536741]

Manufacturing Consent, maybe. It's easy to digest and opens that Pandora's box of trust.

[Anonymous No.19537320]

>>19530966
lol

>https://youtu.be/TjK5Pj5yrSk

[Anonymous No.19537637]

>>19536436
Can you post a quote?

[Anonymous No.19537972]

>>19530787
Wow. For years I couldn't full grasp the concept of The Spectacle because of the obscurantist heavy academic jargon that it pulls from multiple contradicting disciplines e.g. Marxists and liberal thinkers, and the image in the OP finally made everything click.

[Anonymous No.19537985]

>>19530787
These types of books are a spectacular way of getting white people to think that their culture is diseased, when, in reality, they're not even the ones creating it for themselves anymore. It's a sneaky move, really.

[Anonymous No.19538008]

>>19530874
>Mitchell Heismans suicide note
holy shit

[Anonymous No.19538149]

>>19530874
>An entire section dedicated to defending the Jews
>Repackaging Nietzsche and adding nothing to the discourse

I'll pass. Dude shouldn't have killed himself if it was just to leave behind second-rate stuff like that.

[Anonymous No.19538486]

>>19531154
It's true though. Hegel destroyed the old objective conception of cause and effect by giving it a teleology. Now, we can only conceive of it in banal moralistic leftist terms like "right side of history" and "the dustbin of history".

[Anonymous No.19539106]

>>19536626
>all those """"""'suicides"""""""

[Anonymous No.19539159]

>>19534487
>dutroux is still alive

[Anonymous No.19539228]

>>19530874
This. It is the best explanation of the Jewish problem ever written.

Here's the link to the text:
https://legacy.gscdn.nl/archives/images/suicide_note.pdf
(Read pp. 32 - 625)

TL;DR: https://www.scribd.com/document/198985140/Mitchell-Heisman-s-suicide-note-overview

Alternatively you can listen to it while gaming: https://youtu.be/BiMZi5P7WJA

Part 2:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkg6y0uFLHOyAX4BlU6tlnp1qW4l2aFEA

TL;DR: Jews want to transcend biology so that AI can enslave humanity.

[Anonymous No.19539456]

>>19534675
This was huge in the 90s when it came out, everyone who's actually lived back then will remember. Get ready for a massive blackpill

[Anonymous No.19539464]

>>19539106
even a pimp. Imagine a suicidal pimp

[Anonymous No.19539576]

>>19539228
Jews are fucking based

[Anonymous No.19539653]

Red Cross report on Theresienstadt "concentration camp"

[Anonymous No.19539686]

[Anonymous No.19539749]

>>19533792
Yeah, it's me.

[Academicfag No.19540154]

>>19530896
>Debord is dated
>Read Mchulan
>Read Baudrillard
Kek. Maybe pick someone who wrote about it from this century.

[Anonymous No.19540301]

>>19530787

[Anonymous No.19540336]

>>19530787
maybe the real reason you are upset about 'the spectcle' is not out of any principled marxist reasons but because the media has begun to represent and recognize the humanity of people who aren't you(ie. not white cishet males) and you are just entitled and upset you are no longer the center of the universe. Situationism might be appealing to college aged straight white boys who just got out of the suburbs, and had some contact with the social justice critique of capitalism, but aren't yet ready to sit down and listen to marginalised folks or actually assume the responsibility that comes with their privilege. Representation is very important for marginalised folks, so let's NOT be dismissive of it, OK? You live in a world where (until very recently) all the superheroes, all the hollywood actors and politicians looked very much like you, it's a funny thing that you only started feeling alienated by the souless materialism of the consumerist spectacle'' when the culture started shifting towards a place of greater empathy and inclusiveness. gatekeeping is not rad. Were things actually better when popular culture was all white and straight, when only 'high culture', as defined by a narrow clique of white male gatekeepers was deemed worthy of being taken seriously? the position of postmodern baudrillardian irony can only be taken by one who is used to feeling safe, living a sheltered privileged life with no sense of urgency. You will never hear trans people, queers, people of color talk about the spectacle and the simulacra and this and that because they actually have real things to worry about, their lives are actually in danger.

[Anonymous No.19540343]

>>19539749
PURPLE GUY?!?!?!?!!

[Anonymous No.19540385]

>>19540336
>so let's NOT be dismissive of it, OK?
>gatekeeping is not rad
Drop these tumblr-tier "um sweaty" parts and it would actually be a decent bait.

[Anonymous No.19540447]

>>19539228
Skimming it, the stuff about Mosaic Law is plain wrong. The Law was never understood as applying to all humans equally.

[Anonymous No.19540488]

>>19534551
>It is BAUDOUIN who saved her from being cut
>She spent a whole night with BAUDOUIN - fellatio and sodomy
why ... why is my dicc hard

[Anonymous No.19540642]

>>19534389
but most people are reactionary or at least conservative, progressives and revolutionaries are mostly a minority

[Anonymous No.19540660]

>>19534389
>>19534402

I mean have you tried bringing up nietszche or any western philosopher for that matter around your local lgbtsjwtfnpc marxist cattle? In no time you will see their beady stupid cowlike eyes light up in panic. Soon enough they will start with the usual subhuman bleating "wasnt he sexist? Arent you being dangerously eurocentric? Hasnt it been debunked as fake news russian bot pseudoscience?Why read books by dead white men when you could have been streaming the latest diverse and inclusive workplace comedies at netflix hulu and disneyplus? your daily mandatory dose of ''ethically sourced'' child pornography? Didnt you know reading antything beyond YA literature is ableist towards people who are too retarded to read? How does this further the short term electoral goals of the democratic party? Are you saying child sex workers arent real sex workers?Have you been taking your daily recomended dose of high fructuouse corn syrup your SSRIs and HRT? it is very important that you take the medication dr goldstein prescribed otherwise we will report you to corporate for mandatory sensitivity training as per the domestic terrorism act of 2021"

[Anonymous No.19540680]

>>19540660
>your local lgbtsjwtfnpc marxist cattle
what did he mean by that?

[Anonymous No.19540717]

>>19540680
Nothing, it's just a boring pasta. Sadly he didn't kill himself yet

[Anonymous No.19540789]

>>19540680
The ideological monoculture allignment of cultural marxism with corporate capitalism. Like crabs in a bucket pulling down anyone who tries to rise out of buckbroken nigger npc status

[Anonymous No.19540807]

>>19540717
This. Marginalized folks have every reason to trust progressive bourgeoisie and managerial strata over fascist white settlers who want them dead.we have every right to deplatform fascists and reactionaries and class reductionists ensure safety for marginalized and vulnerable members of our communities. We have every right to demand the destigmatization of sex work and mental illness, decolonization prison abolition family abolition the sexual enmancipation of children and an end to white supremacy and the gender binary.

[Anonymous No.19540829]

>>19540807
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.19540863]

>>1953092>>19530926
>>19530956
>>19530969


Wouldn't this be better called as "historical revisionism" or revisionist history? That's what guys like Irving were called I think

[Anonymous No.19540884]

>>19530895
You're so right and this is really interesting to me. People are definitely made uncomfortable by people who are "crazy" like how you said.

I personally don't believe in UFO, flat earth, just to give examples. I don't disbelieve them cause I genuinely have not done the research, and most flat earth people would probably be able to btfo me in a debate just because I've never done any real work on understanding physics, curvature of earth and blah blah.

It would be easy for me to say "but you believe in flat earth, you are silly and I am the winner." But I wouldn't have proved anything, or shown any mastery of the subject. For that reason I stay agnostic on these topics until I'm ready/able to do the work. In my head I defer to the "experts" as they're probably correct, but I know I can't prove it to myself because I'm an ignant retard.

Normies, however, see someone spouting something like flat earth or UFO and go "this guy is crazy, what a crazy thing to say, you are so wrong!" Without actually knowing much about the topic. It seems in their mind the logic flows like, "this guy says x, the experts in media have said x is a crackpot theory. I personally don't know anything about this, but I KNOW this is crazy and wrong. I KNOW you are wrong, and I will confidently tell you that you are."

[Anonymous No.19540911]

>>19530874
Most pleasurable reading of my life not gonna lie. I enjoyed it more than Schopenhauer and it never felt like homework. I enjoy it more than any Vedic hymn which feels like homework. It's like professor /lit/ is there lecturing me. He's the Sky King of BOOKS

[Anonymous No.19540920]

>>19540884
>>19530895
Any out of sync cognition that arouses them as not confirming their insecure torpidity and complacency follows as you said.

[Anonymous No.19540930]

>>19540911

His writing is incoherent and terrible

[Anonymous No.19540958]

>>19530895
Only white guys are privileged enough to bother with nonsense about UFOs and conspiracy theories, while marginalized folks and their allies HAVE to care about racism and sexism as a matter of life and death. The covid pandemic and russian fake news have shown that distrust of science and journalism is literally a public health issue that costs lives. Sure, CIA conspiracy theories might be harmless fun but may lead young white men into radicalization dangerous ideas such as believing in a 'deep state' 'white genocide' or the 'lgbt agenda'

[Anonymous No.19541049]

>>19540958
Kill your """self""", but read books first.

The NOI is millenarian,[108] believing that humanity is living in end times.[109] It propounds a distinct eschatology drawing on the Book of Revelation.[79] Central to its view of the apocalypse is a large spaceship, known as the Wheel, the Mother Plane, or the Mother Ship.[110] Members usually refer to it with female pronouns.[111] Elijah Muhammad described this as "a small human planet,"[21] claiming that it is half a mile by half a mile in diameter.[112] The Nation teaches that this vessel is the Merkabah that appears in the Book of Ezekiel (1: 4–28).[113] It teaches that Allah and many of his scientists live in a magnificent city on the Mother Plane, from which they monitor humanity;[114] Farrakhan has claimed that Elijah Muhammad never died but is resident aboard this ship.[115] The Nation teaches that there are also smaller vessels, "baby planes," docked inside the Mother Ship and that these travel to visit Earth.[116]

[Anonymous No.19541074]

No books necessary. Just show them the following:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwDdJsdYM3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqHrpBPdtSI

[Anonymous No.19541079]

>>19540930
So are most posts on this site :)

[Anonymous No.19541097]

>>19541074
A couple more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUTcwqR4Q4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJrkmnC3AeY

[Anonymous No.19541103]

>>19530787

Is there a turorial for this kind of visual summaries?

[Anonymous No.19541115]

>>19530874
Lmao I wrote a small creative essay on this same subject in 12th grade.

[Anonymous No.19541118]

>>19540958
nigger, here's your (((You)))

[Anonymous No.19541353]

>>19536495
>>19537637
>>19536414
Should I, despite not being a leftist, read Marx? I was raised religious and still am, so I'm not sure how many of Marx's presuppositions I'd agree with. Maybe I'm overthinking it. I was gonna read Wealth of Nations anyway, might as well also read Kapital.

[Anonymous No.19541370]

>>19539749
everybody is connected

[Anonymous No.19541388]

>>19541118
Racist remarks are not allowed on this board

[Anonymous No.19541409]

>>19541388
Thanks, Hitler

[Anonymous No.19541493]

>>19541353
I'm not a marxist but read him. Don't read Kapital cause that's pure torture. Just read Alienated Labour, Commodity Fetishism, the Communist Manifesto,and maybe a few other selections. Maybe also read an overview of Hegel's Master-Slave dialectic. It's useful having some background of Marx's ideas for when arguing with Marxists. It's also helpful I find cause many other writers and thinkers in the 19th and 20th century obliquely allude to or are responding to Marx's ideas.

[Anonymous No.19541607]

>>19534545
>>19534551
Source on that text?

Is it this? The X-Files: What Belgium Was Not Supposed to Know About the Dutroux Affair?

[Anonymous No.19541640]

>>19530787
The Bible

[Anonymous No.19541666]

>>19540884
I've looked into flat earth and it seems to be mostly rather stupid people. The one thing they do say which makes sense is that you can see over large bodies of water, which doesn't make sense because the opposite shore should be below the horizon. I'm not sure what the rebuttal to this is. I assume there is one though because so many other things would have to false for flat earth to be true that it seems extremely unlikely to me.

[Anonymous No.19541684]

>>19541666
>devil trips on flat earth denying post
I want my schizophrenia to go away

[Anonymous No.19541686]

>>19541666
>The one thing they do say which makes sense is that you can see over large bodies of water
How about the ocean?

[Anonymous No.19541705]

>>19541686
I mean large lakes. The numbers don't make sense from what they say. Even on a hypothetical flat earth you could not see an infinite distance because of the way vision interacts with the atmosphere and perspective.

[Anonymous No.19541841]

>>19530874
Neurotic depressed jew rambling about nothing

[Anonymous No.19541848]

>>19541493
Marginalized people dont need to read because their lived experience than in all the white male theorybros books. In fact the worship of the written word has always been tied to colonialism and white supremacy.

White settlers benefit from capitalism hence they have every incentive to oppose revolution or any progressive advancement for marginalized folks more broadly. Instead of pandering to the most backward secrors of the working class we should lead the way along with the most advanced ones, black and indigenous people, and queer/ trans sex workers. Sex workers not the straight male labour aristocracy who are at the vanguard of the proletarian movemen, women and queer people taking the means of production into their own hands by refusing to perform unpaid sexual and emotional labor for white men. The real class struggle is not in factories but in womens bodies. work is a threat to patriarchy the capitalist system itself it is radically queer because it goes against the idea that sex is for the reproduction of the nuclear family and the patriarchal ideology of romantic love. Its a means for workers to take the means of production into their own hands here and now to abolish the distinction between the private sphere and the public, between work and pleasure and self expression. To break down the walls of lily white christian suburbia into a brave new world of pleasure rebellion and freedom. Yes it is true what they say about us queer postmodern neomarxists We are gonna groom all your daughters to be whores and your sons to be nympho trans sex workers.

[Anonymous No.19542013]

>>19534064
Chomsky is treated like a punching bag here

[Anonymous No.19542062]

>>19541848
What is your endgame buddy

[Anonymous No.19542228]

>>19542062
Sex work is not alienated labour because the workers own body is the means of production and one can sell sex directly to the client while traditional relationships based on the heteronormative mold are literally a form of slavery a ploy to extract unpaid domestic sexual and emotional labour from women and queer people

[Anonymous No.19542430]

>>19541848
The copypasta was funny the first few times but it's getting boring. Get some new material.

[Anonymous No.19542644]

>>19542430
>The copypasta was funny the first few times

[Anonymous No.19542787]

>>19542644
Dude's posted the same post on at least 2 other threads. Obvious troll.

[Anonymous No.19543571]

>>19530787
The Voynich Manuscript.

[Anonymous No.19544422]

>>19541388
nigger

[Anonymous No.19544696]

>>19541666
The other incredibly anecdotal thing that might raise an eyebrow are the stories of plane flights that end up impossibly early to their destination, or become so wildly off course that it shouldn't remotely be possible considering gas constraints, which might make you question flight paths and the distance they travel. But nothing beyond "dude this happened to me one time".

[Anonymous No.19544819]

>>19541848
Are you a real person?

[Anonymous No.19544842]

>>19531363
It's because they're innocent that I don't hate the normies. You don't have to hate them to acknowledge that there is and always will be a lowest common denominator.
It's not our fault for being different or theirs for being normies. They just are.

[Anonymous No.19545437]

>>19534545
sauce

[Anonymous No.19545495]

>>19544696
Tell me more

[Anonymous No.19545814]

>>19534775
god fucking damnit

[Anonymous No.19546113]

>>19545814
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1TAzlmaM-Y

[Anonymous No.19546583]

>>19540301
>This!

[Anonymous No.19547353]

>>19530871
Exactly

[Anonymous No.19547763]

>>19530787
My Twisted World ;)

[Anonymous No.19547770]

>>19536506
>human nature
Are you 5

[Anonymous No.19547780]

>>19531149
Ahh yes, the good old Elite Cultural Circles, I can't wait to hang out with kike pedophiles and famous faggots at the Bohemian Grove to sell my soul, body and achieve lesser monetary gain.

[Anonymous No.19547819]

>>19531363
Raskolnikov also had an actual harsh upbringing too, unlike some elitist faggots on some of the boards that still distance themselves from "lesser people"

[Anonymous No.19547820]

>>19541666
>the opposite shore should be below the horizon
It often is, and you get freaky effects like floating islands etc

[Anonymous No.19548275]

>>19534086
kys and filtered by marxism lmao

[Anonymous No.19548495]

>>19539576
Based out of the bowels of Hell maybe.

[Anonymous No.19549111]

[Anonymous No.19549279]

>>19531436
Based. Agreed. Pre-Draco Athens. Remember Kritias' Story.
There definitely was an Athens before "the one we know".

[Anonymous No.19549286]

>>19531658
Stop it with this ridiculous meme. It has been found. Eye of Sahara in Mauritania. It's beyond doubt at this point.

[Anonymous No.19549337]

>>19545814
http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/2020/05/michelle-martin-half-of-sadistic-serial.html

read up anons

[Anonymous No.19549593]

Metaphysics (no new age BS), the Periphysion, neo-platonic texts.

[Anonymous No.19549619]

>>19534064
kill yourself i rarely say this

[Anonymous No.19549644]

>>19530787

[Anonymous No.19549670]

>>19530787
taking notes on one of those non fiction books written by journalists about pop sci is bad enough but taking notes on other people's marxists thoughts like its science is the lowest level of cuck. the idea of philosophy as science or that sociology or whatever the fuck this is is science or something you learn like dogma rather than something to picked apart is a cancer. Marx is all the autism of germs and the schizophrenia of jews combined and it was ripe for the french degenerates to seize hold of and use to stain the mind of humanity for centuries. This shit is an embarrassment to the human species and a horrifying freakish degenerate parasite on the genuine progress of science and philosophy. Violence has never been so appealing to me.

[Anonymous No.19549734]

>>19549593
they would simply dismiss it and not put the work in to understand it

[Anonymous No.19549873]

>>19534545
Fake. Go back to pol nazi