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It just hit me how important he was and how important he is to me. He was a pure soul and he pulled us out of the darkness and set the whole world on its course. We are all his children. I wish he could see how far we've come

>> No.19512682

>>19512677
Are you talking about our saviour Lord Jesus Christ anon but chose the wrong pick?

>> No.19512688
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>>I wish he could see how far we've come

Yeah, he would cry, fall into despair, and suicide.

just like pic related.

>> No.19512795

>>19512677
goes to show what a trivial bullshit world we live in. I don't mean any disrespect to Socrates, it just reflects badly on the rest of us that refusing to accept people's awful opinions, and not letting yourself be shouted down is so rare and valuable.

>> No.19512827

socrates was a totalitarian asshat that hoped his death would derail that which would later enable Europe to progress beyond oligarchic clientism (until we arrived back at it but it was a good run).

>> No.19512861
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>>19512827
>totalitarian asshat
>recognizing the state as the principal way to cultivate morality instead of letting people run around like monkeys is “totalitarian”
Actually kill yourself you fucking queer. You are literally the type of subhuman democrat he warned against

>> No.19513195

>>19512677
Socrates was just a good person Plato meet when he was young. The Socrates you are reading in the dialogues isn't Socrates, it's Plato...

Plato was a pure divine soul full of beauty.

>> No.19513213

>>19512677
>>19513195
Based Platonist bros. We're going to make it.

>> No.19513254

>>19512688
>>I wish he could see how far we've come
he would drink a gallon of rat poison to never come back again

>> No.19513280

grow up

>> No.19513296

>>19512677
Thereupon Crito nodded to the boy who was standing near. The boy went out and stayed a long time, then came back with the man who was to administer the poison, which he brought with
him in a cup ready for use. And when Socrates saw him, he said: “Well, my good man, you know
about these things; what must I do?” “Nothing,” he replied, “except drink the poison and walk
about [117b] till your legs feel heavy; then lie down, and the poison will take effect of itself.”
At the same time he held out the cup to Socrates. He took it, and very gently, Echecrates, without trembling or changing color or expression, but looking up at the man with wide open eyes, as was his custom, said: “What do you say about pouring a libation to some deity from this cup? May I, or not?” “Socrates,” said he, “we prepare only as much as we think is enough.” “I understand,” said Socrates; [117c] “but I may and must pray to the gods that my departure hence be a fortunate one; so I offer this prayer, and may it be granted.” With these words he raised the cup to his lips and very cheerfully and quietly drained it. Up to that time most of us had been able to restrain our tears fairly well, but when we watched him drinking and saw that he had drunk the poison, we could do so no longer, but in spite of myself my tears rolled down in floods, so that I wrapped my face in my cloak and wept for myself; for it was not for him that I wept, [117d] but for my own misfortune in being deprived of such a friend. Crito had got up and gone away even before I did, because he could not restrain his tears. But Apollodorus, who had been weeping all the time before, then wailed aloud in his grief and made us all break down, except Socrates himself. But he said, “What conduct is this, you strange men! I sent the women away chiefly for this very reason, that they might not behave in this absurd way; for I have heard that [117e] it is best to die in silence. Keep quiet and be brave.”

>> No.19513355

>>19513296
monumental

>> No.19513636

>>19512677
>the vote to execute him only won by a few dozen votes
BROS

>> No.19513644

>>19512677
There have been probably 100 Socrates-like figure in Ancient Greece, 1000s more worldwide. The whole thing is an accident.

>> No.19513645

He was a snarky know-it-all, too clever to get along with people, and suicidal to boot.
He committed cop suicide.
There is little that separates him from any other man beyond these.

>> No.19513670

>>19513644
>>19513645
weak men's cope
Socrates was unique and nothing like everybody else

>> No.19513772

>>19512677
He also singlehandedly made humanity give up it's ancient principle of "might makes right" for being ruled by weak onions cowards more preocupied with debating dialectics and muh virtues than actualy strenghtening their people. Socrates marked the begining of rational thought but also the castration of emotion and intuition. He was a good man with the wrong ideas for a species like ours.

>> No.19513784

>>19513772
You would have us like ancient china a revolution every month and everyone constantly killing each other meanwhile Europe a few countries west is discovering the secrets of the universe

>> No.19514442 [DELETED] 

>I saw inside his cloak and caught fire, and could possess myself no longer; and I thought none was so wise in love-matters as Cydias, who in speaking of a beautiful boy recommends someone to "beware of coming as a fawn before the lion, and being seized as his portion of flesh"; for I too felt I had fallen a prey to some such creature.

>> No.19514445

>>19512677
Christ is King

>> No.19514449
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>I saw inside his cloak and caught fire, and could possess myself no longer; and I thought none was so wise in love-matters as Cydias, who in speaking of a beautiful boy recommends someone to "beware of coming as a fawn before the lion, and being seized as his portion of flesh"; for I too felt I had fallen a prey to some such creature.

>> No.19514501
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>Intellectualism in the vicious sense began when Socrates and Plato taught that what a thing really is, is told us by its definition. Ever since Socrates we have been taught that reality consists of essences, not of appearances, and that the essences of things are known whenever we know their definitions.