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Unironically who was in the wrong here?

>> No.19377390
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Agamemnon.

>> No.19377414

Clytemnestra. Women are always wrong.

>> No.19377432

>>19377390
>reads a summary instead of the valuable book
>still fucks up the analysis
eat shit and die

>> No.19377441

Artemis

>> No.19377448

>>19377360
Read it a long while ago and watched a play too
The wife is a cunt, Agamemnos brother is too

>> No.19377466

>>19377448
Menelaus isn't in the play Aganemnon, he's in the Iliad and the Odyssey.

>> No.19377478

>>19377441
In no way.

>>19377432
>shit eater
>tells others to partake in his fetish

>>19377448
Her daughter was sent to be murdered by her own father. She had every right. Her son, none.
And Athena echoing Zeus’ wishes on the matter completes the tragedy.

>> No.19377483

>>19377360
The woman is always in the wrong.

>> No.19377505

>>19377478
>She had every right.
What did Cassandra do wrong?

>> No.19377536

>>19377505
What was Cassandra to her but livestock spoil of war? Also an invention of Aeschylus so we can loathe the scapegoat. Agamemnon is also to blame for her death

>> No.19377554

>>19377360
Helen

>> No.19377576

>>19377536
>Also an invention of Aeschylus.
She appears in the Iliad, dummy.

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>>19377554
>wife no longer love you
>her fault for the war you wage
Hahahaha. Degeneracy and delusion.

>> No.19377625

>>19377576
>dummy
She isn’t killed in that. That’s the invention, pardon.

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>>19377360
Not Electra

>> No.19377696

>>19377625
Aganemnon, Clytemnestra and Iphigenia aren't killed in the Iliad either, so by your own logic everything in this play is an invention.

>> No.19377707

>>19377614
Helen hated Paris and didn't want to be kidnapped. Have you even read the Iliad?

>> No.19377728

>>19377696
He invented the play. Advanced the story.
I donno. Perhaps it’s based on another playwrights work lost to us. Who can be sure?
Conceivably there might have been an older version where she isn’t killed. That’s all.

>> No.19377735

How many books about agammneom are there?

>> No.19377741

>>19377707
I read the Odyssey. She and he made some amends, but she didn’t dislike leaving with him. It wasn’t described as a kidnapping. Perhaps this is because of the translations we’ve read.

>> No.19377957

>>19377741
>I read the Odyssey. She and he made some amends, but she didn’t dislike leaving with him.
Helen isn't kidnapped in the Iliad you liar. It starts in media res. Stop pretending you've read books you haven't read.

>> No.19377963

the whole fucking point is that it's a succession of revenges with no end, everyone is wronging someone else because of a right reason to them because of the previous wrong and it's a neverending cycle until the furies have to step in and try and stop it

>> No.19378039

>>19377957
The anon above said she was kidnapped. I didn’t get that impression at all from the Odyssey. Don’t bitch me out for anons assertions.

>> No.19378062 [DELETED] 

>>19378039
>I read the Odyssey. She and he made some amends, but she didn’t dislike leaving with him.
You are insinuating that Helen leaves Menelaus for Paris in the Iliad. Regardless of the circumstances behind her leaving Sparta, this doesn't happen in the Iliad, it happens in a different story.

>> No.19378126

>>19377360
Tantalus

>> No.19378589

>>19377360
It's been many years since I read it, but I remember I hated Clytemnestra so probably her

>> No.19378615

>>19377963
>book is about the development of justice and law beyond primal blood debts
> /lit/ can’t see past “cool misogyny!”

figures

>> No.19378721

>>19378615
your opinion is not that dissimilar; >>19377963
talked about how eye for an eye simply leads to more suffering and countless deaths. Therefore the importance of a justice system, since simple revenge (especially if "by blood" only leads to more suffering