/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19318012]

How tf are you supposed to read the charts on the lit wiki it's extremely low quality any help?

[Anonymous No.19318028]

>>19318012
No

[Anonymous No.19318043]

>just be ascetic bro

[Anonymous No.19319220]

>>19318012
Look down. Click the 'original file' link. Stop being a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.19320232]

>>19318012
>If you're poor you don't deserve any joy
It's a fact you can't survive on minimun wage you sheltered faggot when 80% of your income goes to food, lodging and bills. Even if they save 100 dollars a month (quite an achievement for someone living on minimum wage) it will take years to have enough for a car down payment and they won't get a mortgage ever.
Fuck your (((bootstraps))) propaganda faggot.

[Anonymous No.19320279]

>>19320232
Equally, I see many wagecucks wasting a huge amount of their money on pc related while simultaneously complaining that they have no money.

These are the same people that, were they to be paid more, would simply spend more and continue complaining that they don't have enough money.

[Anonymous No.19320306]

>>19318012
READ THE FUCKING STICKY. Also, leave and never come back please.

[Anonymous No.19320334]

>>19318012
In the past 20 years wages where I live have gone up 19%. Housing? 290%.

>Nothing personl kiddo, just pull bootstraps and eat less avocado toast lmao

[Anonymous No.19320368]

>>19320334
well i'm sure a lib like you supports the laws and zoning that make building new units impossible, so you get what you deserve i suppose.

[Anonymous No.19320381]

>>19320232
Or you just find a job that pays decent like costco then take a loan and get some welding certs. Literally only retards work for minimum wage. Even as a teenager getting a first job at kohls I got more than minimum wage because I asked for it.

[Anonymous No.19320387]

>>19320368
Nigger, the libs and the cons are two sides of the same coin. You got what you wanted so it's time leave now thanks.

[Anonymous No.19320389]

>>19320368
Based and lolbert pilled

[Anonymous No.19320399]

>>19318012
more like
>food + bills = negative balance

[Anonymous No.19320405]

>>19320368
No. Housing should be available to citizens first. People should not have any safety requirements for what is built on land they own (provided they warn people). Companies should be kneecapped by the government if they do what they're currently doing; drip-feeding houses into the local area to keep prices high, with the government allowing foreigners to buy them up en masse then rent them out to the poor fucks who would have lived in them in the first place.

People need to wake up and lych the politicians not implementing these things. Housing is the biggest expense in almost everyone's lives, but it’s been categorically raped over the past few decades. It should be a few years hard work will get you a home, not 10+ with years of saving for a deposit before that.

[Anonymous No.19320407]

>>19320381
i live on the equivalent pay to a full time minimum wage job in an expensive city but i only work part time leaving me a lot of free time to read and shitpost etc which is why i stick with it, but the point is, i always manage to sock away a couple gees into my roth at the end of the year and alternate between new phones and new computers evert other year. most of my clothes are from mr. porter or j. crew. would i be able to support smoking weed every day or going to bars every weekend? no. do i accept that as a trade off for having free time, yes.

[Anonymous No.19320412]

>>19320368
>2021
>still believing in general equilibrium theory

[Anonymous No.19320422]

>>19320405
my city is putting up new units like mad there's no drip feeding around here, again i think you need to look at your zoning and city council. it's usually existing landlords, using naive libs as shock troops, who try to block new developments.

[Anonymous No.19320423]

>>19320399
The virgin SAD
>processed tv dinners
>frozen fried chicken
>storebought poison bread
>trader joes tv dinners
>chipotle
>starbucks
Vs
The chad bulker
>50lb sack of rice
>25lb sack of flour
>40lb sack of beans
>clarifys his own butter instead of poison canola oil
>3lb brick of yeast
>grinds chuck roasts instead of mystery meat
>freezer with giant bags of frozen vegetables
>potatoes on his potatoes
>sweet potato hash browns
>cures whole pork bellies
>knows the mother sauces
>renders lard himself

[Anonymous No.19320431]

>>19320423
>bulking on minimum wage
LUL

[Anonymous No.19320435]

>>19320407
You only need a new pc every 5 years. Buy clothes at costco where they have a 15% markup maximum policy. Upscale retail is a fucking scam, their costs are like 10% of the price you pay. The fuck is wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.19320441]

>>19320431
It means bulk purchasing not bulk dieter. Besides I know absolutely no one who has worked for minimum wage in their entire lives.

[Anonymous No.19320459]

>>19320423
don't forget the mega sack of protein powder

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015QSZMI/

[Anonymous No.19320465]

>>19320459
Whey is garbage industrial byproduct poison. Just eat more meat.

[Anonymous No.19320476]

>>19320422
The % is fairly extreme in this part of the country, sure, but overall even accounting for the entire country the increase in the price of homes has outstripped ways by retarded amounts. Zoning laws might be the excuse, but it’s just elites enjoying their stupidly high rents. You can tell that from the lack of relaxing legislation, and the lack of QE being pumped into the housing market, despite this being a steadily increasing problem for as long as I've been alive. The people in power don't give a fuck, much like boomers it doesn't effect them.

[Anonymous No.19320490]

>>19320476
Renters are fucking dupes. This is nothing new. The only solution would be reforming so that rent builds equity and renters and owners are in essence coowners with the renter having a cash out option with the owner benefiting from the gain of equity alone. Rents are generally 175% of the mortgage and the renter should at least partially gain equity in the housing they are paying for. This could either happen via someone richer than I just murdering the market by offering this and snowballing properties or via state intervention.

[Anonymous No.19320498]

>>19320476
oh ya the housing prices are absurd across the country except in the most decrepit rural opioid pits. still part of the reason housing was cheap in the 50s and 60s is because people were building sprawling suburbs filled with absurd amounts of houses. suburban sprawl sucks, from an environmental, cultural, and commuter perspective, but building them drove housing prices way down.

[Anonymous No.19320525]

Wikis turned incredibly fucking useless with this new WEBP shit.

>>19318043
>not being a drug addicted mindless tv watching zombie is being ascetic
lol

[Anonymous No.19320576]

Here's a book for this thread. Ignore the lame title, the author himself hates it.

The book is basically about extreme frugality with the goal of "retiring" early. (The term "retiring" here is used to refer to not relying on paid employment to survive).

Reading this resulted in a perspective shift for me and saw me ending the following year with more money then i'd ever had before.

[Anonymous No.19320593]

>>19320407
You sound absolutely brain dead.

[Anonymous No.19320601]

>>19318012

What's that stick next to the ice cream bucket?

[Anonymous No.19320605]

>>19320593
cope

[Anonymous No.19320606]

>>19320381
>take out a loan while working at a grocery store just to pay for exams

That's fucking stupid. You shouldn't be forced to go into debt for an opportunity to make yourself more employable or gain skills.

[Anonymous No.19320608]

>>19320601
some kind of vape bullshit, you don't see those piece of shits all over the sidewalks where u live? its like the new cigarette butt

[Anonymous No.19320619]

i was able to save more money before i got a social life. then i was pressured into getting things like netflix, cell phones, drinks, fashionable clothes that i didnt care about or have before. socializing is expensive

[Anonymous No.19320622]

>>19320606
So then what we steal other peoples income to pay for you or have your parents actually take responsibility for their jizm? What is your solution, literally steal from others or care for your own young?

[Anonymous No.19320625]

>>19320619
>netflix
gross, you should get criterion channel instead

[Anonymous No.19320637]

>>19320619
You can live without the netflix, clothes, and drinks. The cell phone you can just get some shitty cheap one. If some girl gives you shit for not having an iphone then laugh it off.

[Anonymous No.19320644]

>>19320625
I just pirate criterion flicks.

[Anonymous No.19320656]

>>19318012
>i don't want to get a trade job
trades are unironically gay

[Anonymous No.19320659]

>>19320232
you can survive on minimum wage dude

[Anonymous No.19320663]

>>19320637
clothes and phones arent expensive because they last for years and you get utility out of them literally every day. spending $30 on dinner is a total loss.

[Anonymous No.19321022]

>>19320576
This looks great. any other books that deal with rejecting consoomerism, savings money, etc?

[Anonymous No.19321030]

>>19318012
kys

[Anonymous No.19321054]

>>19320232
Poorfag cope

[Anonymous No.19321067]

>>19318012
The charts are the test, if you can't read those, don't bother reading at all.

[Anonymous No.19321183]

>>19320368
I’m all for the free market but let’s not pretend the issue is zoning laws and not multinational corporations owning non commercial real estate. Citizens alone should be allowed to buy houses.

[Anonymous No.19321458]

>>19318043
kys genuinely

[Anonymous No.19321803]

>>19321022
Obviously anything on homesteading, raising chickens, hogs, cattle, gardening and soil health, woodworking and carpentry, welding and blacksmithing, and sewing and leatherworking. Just resewing clothes alone and resoling the same pair of boots goes a long way. Recycling your own scraps like making an old rasp or file into a knife or other tool.

[Anonymous No.19321834]

>>19320381
>Literally only retards work for minimum wage.
50% of the population has an IQ of 100 or lower anon, and that is functionally retarded. 25.24% have one of 90 or lower, and at that point, thinking recursively and understanding temporality becomes difficult. 15% are at 85 or below, at which point, we are close to animal levels of consciousness - more than capable of suffering, but not of bettering their lot.
One may or may not agree that only retards work minimum wage, but one must keep in mind that retards comprise the majority of the population. Having a society that causes excess suffering, even if it is to the majority of retards, is wrong.

[Anonymous No.19321844]

>>19321834
Under a system of eugenics this would not be a problem in only a few generations.

[Anonymous No.19321855]

>>19318012
I basically live in a sensory deprivation tank, and I don't want to get a trade job not retail. I want to be an artisan. I don't see how this makes me any different from the guy in OP. I'm starting to think that not consooming shit isn't that big of a deal. Apart from ~1h browsing 4chan I just read nonfiction and write.

[Anonymous No.19321864]

>>19321834
>implying it's retards who end up with a shitty job while intelligent people get to the high paying positions
have you heard of this thing called nepotism? it might be quite shocking when you realize it matters more than IQ

[Anonymous No.19321885]

>>19321844
Which will probably never be instituted, and even if it did, would risk some hilarious catastrophic consequence, like everyone developing terminal autism and suicidal schizophrenia in the span of a few generations.

>>19321864
Yes, I am implying that, because it is mostly the case. That there are nepotist exceptions to the rule doesn't matter much for the broader picture.
Intelligence is mostly inherited. 90 IQ plebeians have been 90 IQ plebeians for generation after generations, and have at all times had the shitty jobs. There are no connections for nepotism if your parents are part-time alcoholics and part-time Walmart greeters. That an occasional bad egg from a good family gets ushered into some high-paying pseudojob where he can retain status while being babysat does not detract from a very obvious and very basic general tendency.

[Anonymous No.19321893]

>>19320334
you need to go back

[Anonymous No.19321902]

>>19321893
you need to cope, seethe and dilate

[Anonymous No.19321942]

>>19321864
Nah I think those people still hover around the mean.

[Anonymous No.19321965]

>>19321855
Literally learn a trade. Carpenters, welders, machinists literally are artisans.

[Anonymous No.19321967]

>>19321885
>nepotist exceptions to the rule
be glad you live in a country where nepotism isn't the rule

[Anonymous No.19322041]

>>19321965
They’re not.

[Anonymous No.19322103]

>>19322041
They by definition are. They personally make things with craftsmanship.

[Anonymous No.19322132]

>>19322103
not the anon you replied to but I meant an artisan job I would actually like, namely shit I am doing on my own, not some industry job.

[Anonymous No.19322144]

>>19322132
That is an artist not an artisan. Artisans make things with actual function. Artists make shit that does nothing useful. An artisan makes a knife, an artist makes a sculpture.

[Anonymous No.19322438]

>>19321902
you still need to go back

[Anonymous No.19322814]

>>19320656
ironic as most people in the trades call men that work outside of the trades effeminate faggots

[Anonymous No.19322890]

>>19322814
That is a cope for having a broken body by age 30. There is a reason workers were considered less manly in antiquity

[Anonymous No.19322897]

>>19322890
not really, men that work manual labor tend to have higher test and better physiques

[Anonymous No.19322963]

>>19320232
There absolutely no issue finding a customer service job today that makes 12+ an hour.

[Anonymous No.19322976]

>>19318012
Haze yourself, dumb zoomer.

[Anonymous No.19323031]

>>19318043

[Anonymous No.19323082]

>>19320619
lmao

[Anonymous No.19323098]

>>19320576
I'll look into it, thanks for the recommendation

[Anonymous No.19323105]

>>19323098
if you have audible plus this shit is free and covers a lot of the same ground