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For you illiterates out there, how many hours/days did it take you to finish this?

>> No.19212712

>>19212649
I had already read Iliad, Odyssey, and Oedipus in school, so I skipped ahead to the works of Aristotle and Plato, which took me about a month to read. Did I miss out on anything from this chart?

>> No.19212742

>>19212712
>the works of Aristotle and Plato, which took me about a month to read
Your pace?
>Did I miss out on anything from this chart?
I haven't read any yet. Trying to plan the time I should spend on it.

>> No.19212743

>>19212712
>the works of Aristotle and Plato, which took me about a month to read
exasperated pepe frog picture

>> No.19212767

>>19212649
I didn't use this dumb chart I just read what I was interested in. I regret reading Edith Hamilton's boring tome and I don't remember any of it. Here's the order I've read shit from/about antiquity so far:
>Homer: Iliad
>Plato: Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Meno, Phaedo
>Waterfield: Pre-Socratics and Sophists
>Aurelius: Meditations
>Plato: Symposium
>WKC Guthrie: Thales to Aristotle
>Plato: Ion, Laches, Lysis, Charmides, Hippias Major, Hippias Minor, Euthydemus
>Hamilton: Mythology (lame)
>Plato: Gorgias
>Augustine: Confessions
>Longus: Daphnis and Chloe
>Sextus Empiricus: Outlines of Pyrrhonism
>Caesar: Gallic War
>Suetonius Lives of the Caesars
>Aeschylus: Suppliant Maidens, Persians, Seven Against Thebes, Prometheus Bound
>Cicero: De Natura Deorum
>Scullard: From the Gracchi to Nero
>Aeschylus: Oresteia
>Petronius: Satyricon
>Aristophanes: Lysistrata, Assemblywomen, Acharnians, Frogs
>Dover: Greek Homosexuality
Order doesn't even fucking matter really just read what you want to.

>> No.19212814

>>19212767
Watch your language

>> No.19212819

>>19212814
Sorry

>> No.19212835

>>19212742
>>19212743
What’s the issue? I didn’t work so I did about 3 hours a day of reading.

>> No.19212841

>>19212649
Haven't even started lmao
Only book I ever read was a few pages of the bible then I come online and shout down anyone wanting to talk about anything that isn't exactly what I believe

>> No.19212904

>>19212841
You are home.

>> No.19212973

>>19212835

> What’s the issue?
None

>>19212767
> I regret reading Edith Hamilton's boring tome
I might skip this and I'll consider your suggestions

>> No.19212979

>>19212841
Well, you've got everything for free...

>> No.19212983

>>19212973
WKC Guthrie's book is a great intro to Greek philosophy.

>> No.19213017
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>>19212649
Don't necessarily start with the greeks, start with whatever school of thought interests you (picrel). Believe me, I fell for that meme chart. It would take you years to finish all of those books, never force yourself to read it just because they said so. I wasted 7 months reading things I'm not interested in

>> No.19213806

>>19213017
Got it, I have a looong plan. And thanks, I'll use the Info graph to navigate

>> No.19213809

>>19212983
I'll take a look... thanks.

>> No.19213835

>>19212649
I haven't read any of those

>> No.19213839
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>>19212649
>supplemental material

>> No.19213867

>>19212973
If you don't have a strong grasp of Greek Mythology it's a good primer. I read it and wouldn't consider it 'essential' or anything but I still enjoyed reading it none the less. Calling it a 'boring tome' is a bit of a joke; it's incredibly easy to ready and felt pretty short.

>> No.19213892

>>19212649
Well the Corpus Aristotelicum alone is 2000 pages of dense philosophical lecture notes. I hope you enjoy reading about how many teeth female goats have.

>> No.19213903

I watched the Greeks, the movie adaptations of the tragedies and Jason and the Argonauts.

>> No.19213906

>>19213867
You learn all that Greek god shit through immersion anyway

>> No.19214133

>>19212649
So guys, its time for me to be honest. I tried to start with the Greeks using this chart, got bored, and just dropped it altogether. Then I saw a micro chart on starting with the jeets (Hindu), picked it up, and actually enjoyed it. I think a big factor was that it had only 5 books on it. Can you guys recommend something similar for Greeks? Like a no fluff kinda thing. Maybe Iliad>Odyssey>Plato>Aristotle ? Anybody who followed this chart, did you get anything from reading all these books?

>> No.19214356

>>19212814
Based

>> No.19214377

>>19212767
You missed out big on Herodotus and Thucydides bro, I ended up enjoying them more than the philosophy.

>> No.19214378

>>19212712
> I skipped ahead to the works of Aristotle and Plato, which took me about a month to read
kek

>> No.19214411

>>19213906
I don't think it's a bad book but I don't really see why it's always placed as the first book related about Greece recommended honestly. If you're in the Western World there's a good chance you already have a strong grasp on who the major Greek Gods are through cartoons/video games/movies and you learn about the minor ones through the Iliad/Odyssey/Theognis anyway.

>> No.19214496
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>>19212649
Have read some dialogues by plato and started the republic. Have also read aristotles ethics, organum and metaphysics. I tried to read Thucydides, but got filtered. It was incredibly boring, hard to read, and didn't seem all that important since several of the other works cover it, at least superficially.

It took me like 3 months reading a couple hours a day and taking frequent breaks.

>> No.19214666

>>19212649
I'm looking to get my hands on the Iliad and Odyssey. What translation should I get?

>> No.19214765

How is Hamilton compared to Graves?

>> No.19215316

>>19214765
Bump for this

>> No.19215330

>>19212649
Does anyone actually read the complete works of Aristotle?

>> No.19215989

>>19214765
Bump again

>> No.19216033

herodotus is a dumbass, also why would you need to read him before the philosophy stuff?
you can skip plato too

>> No.19216038

you can just wikipedia the whole thing

>> No.19216121

>>19212649
not counting supplemental material you can easily read all the stuff from that list in a year, OP

>> No.19216140

>>19214496
>getting filtered by the greeks
Come on anon

>> No.19217432

>>19214133
Post the pajeet chart anon

>> No.19217622

>>19212649
only read about 1/4 of that.
>no anabasis
gay chart

>> No.19217806

>>19212649
What do I read after Aristotle?

>> No.19218886

>>19212649
I noticed there's also a "Start With The Bronze Age" chart. Should I read those?

>> No.19219409

>>19218886
Dude, there are charts for most of the civilizations

>> No.19219458

>>19217806
Nothing. You're done.

>> No.19219500

>>19216140
fuck off. I know you havent read a single one of the books in that guide. I only got filtered by the history of the peloponnesian war because it was extremely dry boring and not useful. all the other books were fine reads

>> No.19219506

>>19212649
There is about 16000 pages there. Assuming that you read very slowly, that would be around 1300 hours or 20 months if you read for 2 hours a day.

>> No.19220205

>>19214496
>but got filtered.
What do people mean by this?

>> No.19220210

>>19212712
Please don’t post

>> No.19220214

>>19213017
Where’s Jordan Peterson?

>> No.19220582

>>19220205
They couldn't get through the book

>> No.19221399

>>19219500
>fuck off. I know you havent read a single one of the books in that guide
i've read everything except the supplemental material, anon
got filtered only by parts of aristotle's "metaphysics" and "organon", and plato's "parmenides"
>because it was extremely dry boring
what? the parts in which thucydides just summarizes some things like how the crop was in a certain year were boring, but the rest was really interesting
>and not useful
not surprised that a pragmatist cuck got filtered this hard

>> No.19221857
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>>19217432
Here you go. The Upanishads and the Bhagavad Gita are quite comfy. Now I'm moving onto the Buddhists, and I honestly am curious to see what they have in store. It's kinda funny that what I am reading literally depends on the quality of the charts I look at. Had the greek chart been a similar length, then I probably would have started with the greeks, but instead I'm starting with religion. After the jeets, both Hindu and Buddhist, I plan to read the Quran, and then to return back to the Bible. I have wondered if I am missing out on something from the other religions, especially Taoism, but I don't have time to read every single book there is.

>> No.19221864

>>19221857
After religion I will probably return to the Greeks, but fuck retarded charts like pic related. Im just gonna finish Hamiltons mythology because I already have it, then read Iliad, then Odyssey, then Plato, then Aristotle. After that I dunno honestly

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19221871

>>19221864
Oops forgot the chart, here it is

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>>19221871
And honestly, after that, I dunno. I was considering reading through the books in this chart. Not because of any existential crisis, but just because they seem to provide such a variety of different views/philosophies of the world, and it seems really interesting

>> No.19221899

>>19213017
Will I be okay going into neo-platonism if i've only read a handful of plato himself?

>> No.19221909

>>19215330
No, it is literally impossible as majority of his formally published work is lost, and most likely will be forever

>> No.19221923

>>19217806
ottessa moshfegh

>> No.19221930

>>19221909
No, he means does anybody actually read the entire book. Yes I know you know that, but I would like to know the answer to his question as well.

>> No.19222481

>>19221930
Well, there is some people who probably have. Is that not obvious?