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Luv Dosto, luv Lermontov, luv Bulgakov, 'ate Tolstoy. Simple as

Post your best Russian literature memes!

Offer obscure recs, air grievances, compare translations, discuss Dugin - whatever you want just keep it Ruskaiya!

>> No.19211679

the next story in my short story collection is Korney Vasiliev by Tolstoy. Has anyone read that one? Is it good or should i just skip to Chekov?
Ive only read Pushkin(Queen of spades) and Gogol(The Overcoat) so far

>> No.19211708

>>19211658
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_cosmism

>> No.19211753

>>19211658
I've been slacking on my Russian lately. I read Tolstoy's Confession the other night but it didnt afford me any pleasure. I haven't even been reading my daily poems. Also was trying to read Nabokov's The Gift but it felt soulless.

Two poets I like who are underrated in Anglo world are Zhukovsky and Balmont, but they are well known in Russia

>> No.19211848

>>19211658
Check out Unwitting Street by Sigizmund Krzhizhanovsky

>> No.19211863

>>19211848
Oh and Lady Macbeth of Mtsensk by Nikolai Leskov and his
The Tale of Cross-eyed Lefty from Tula and the Steel Flea, and The Sealed Angel.

>> No.19212202

where do I start with Tolstoy? I've read a bunch of Dostoyevsky. How do the two compare?

>> No.19212236

>>19211679
I haven't read that one, but if it's a short story, I don't see why you oughta skip it. You won't be losing much time by reading it, and it could be very rewarding.

>>19211753
Zhukovsky isn't very well appreciated, but we do have Louis Zukofsky!

>>19212202
Start with the Cossacks. I do not find many similarities between their work prose-wise or theme-wise.

>> No.19212248

Uncle Vanya hits like a truck

>> No.19212330

>>19211658
Fucking pleb only a literal mongoloid would hate Tolstoy.
Consider suicide, unironically. And get the fuck away from my board.

>> No.19212367

>>19212236
Yea I glanced the first page and enjoyed what I saw so I wont skip it, I guess im just eager to get to Chekov since ive heard hes the king. Any other good recommendations for Russian short stories?

>> No.19212368

I can’t recommend Chekhov’s novellas The Steppe, My Life, and The Duel enough. All 3 can easily be read in 1-3 days.

A Sportsman’s Notebook by Turgenev is one of my favorite books. Peak comfy. Bezhin Meadow is my favorite story from the book. Hemingway was also a big fan and it influenced his renowned short stories

>> No.19212695

Have any of you read Nevsky Prospekt by Gogol? Is it any good?

>> No.19212710

>>19212695
Yes. He is very unique. Especially his short stories. He might be to all tastes. The Quarrel Between Ivan…..(I can’t remember the exact names) is one of the funniest things I’ve read. Just go into him with an open mind and come back at another time. I didn’t like him at first and was scratching my head. I was expecting a Tolstoy type writer and I went into The Nose blindly

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>>19212710
*might not be to all tastes

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>>19212330
You just mad you actually stuck it out through that monstrously overrated fluffy Christian tripe. Cope and seethe

>> No.19213251

>>19212330
As a writer, Tolstoy is top notch. As a thinker though, he's the worst kind of scum. Now why would you read Tolstoy when you can read Dostoevsky?

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>> No.19213479

>>19213441
where to start with Lermontov?

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>>19211658
In Pakistan the most loved and famous Russian author is Maxim Gorky.

What do the Russians think about it?

>> No.19213530

>>19213458
omg so true

>> No.19213596

>>19213530
i know right

like

man

it's just so true yknow?

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>>19213859
>not calling her Galina
ngmi

>> No.19214024

>>19213458
fr fr though

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>>19213998
Aaaahk pleeasee explain

>> No.19214199

>>19212367
These are my favorite short stories:
Taras Bulba - Gogol
The Nose - Gogol
The Overcoat - Gogol
The Cossacks - Tolstoy
Hadji Murad - Tolstoy
The Death of Ivan Ilych - Tolstoy
The Devil - Tolstoy
The Captain's Daughter - Pushkin

>> No.19214267

>>19213458
what are some of the famous American classics that use this trope so I can avoid buying them?

>> No.19214300

>>19214267
I honestly can’t think of many off the top of my head. Melville, Hemingway, Faulkner, Fitzgerald, Steinbeck, Salinger, Poe, Twain, Nabokov, etc all have much different themes. I haven’t read Jack London, but I never got the impression that he was a “muh freedom” writer but more of an outdoor survivalist type of writer.

>> No.19214447

>>19214300
Outdoor survivalism was an image of freedom for him

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>>19211658
here you go frens. made this just now with a few lesser known (in the anglosphere) 20th century (mainly) oeuvres to post in such threads. will probably make a chart at some point that is more detailed, but have this for now. sorry for low quality i am lazy

>> No.19214475

>>19214447
Kinda in a Kerouac way?

>> No.19214490

>>19213479
Read a Hero of Our Time, then go from there. I read the penguin classics translation and it was alright.

>>19212695
Nigger, his Petersburg stories are all 10/10 and up there with Dosto and Tolstoy.
Read them and then read Dosto's the Double and see how Gogol was the true OG. Then move on to Dead Souls.

>> No.19214498

S Tier: Tolstoyevsky
A Tier: Chekhov, Solzhenitsyn, Gogol
B Tier: Bely, Lermontov, Goncharov, Grossman
C Tier: Bulgakov

>> No.19214570

>>19214498
weak bait

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>>19211658
>spend 40 dollars on hardcover pocket gogol short story book and bicentennial Brothers Karamazov
>has anyone else here read quiet flows the don? i is me and my grandpas favorite underrated russian work.
>also tough take but I did not like master and margarita.
>was talking about my bicentennial BK and this guy thought bicentennial was the name of an author....
>also recently bought this shirt

>> No.19215994

>>19211658
Ya know, I just watched Norm Macdonald's Me Doing Standup and Hitler's Dog specials back to back and they're structured almost exactly like a Russian novel, specifically Crime and Punishment or Brothers Karamazov. Norm has said he prefers Tolstoy but I don't see it. Dostoevsky is the forefather of shame, fear, and despair in modern literature, all of which feature prominently in both specials. But then he hits you with the sucker punch at the end that love is the answer; Alyosha and Raskolnikov both are redeemed in the last chapter through Christianity and love, love of childhood in the former case and love of Sophia in the latter. And Norm finds love through his dog. Which reminds me of a certain video out of Germany starring a pig and a lady.

The point is that Norm has an above-average understanding of literature and music (and an encyclopedic knowlege of comedy) that informs his standup in subtle ways that can only be understood on multiple viewings, and there's just no one else out there doing anything like that. It's not just that he's a genius, it's also that most other comedians are dumb. Or at least their acts are.

>> No.19216971

>>19213441
What do these even mean?

>> No.19216986

>>19216971
That literally everything is a meme now

>> No.19217197

>>19211658
I've just started getting into russian literature, and I'm really enjoying andreyev's novels and crime and punishment at the moment. what should I read next?

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>> No.19217875

>>19211658
>read some Dosto, tolstoy a few other authors
>want to learn russian to read the rest of works in the original langauge
That was 4 years ago. Fuckl

>> No.19217938

>>19213251
what a cookie cutter opinion