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[Anonymous No.19201212]

Books about the consequences of lying?

[Anonymous No.19201220]

lying is based

[Anonymous No.19201221]

lying is to manipulation what facebook is to the internet

[Anonymous No.19201222]

Adventures of Pinocchio

[Anonymous No.19201232]

Just don’t get caught ;^)

[Anonymous No.19201351]

>>19201212
>"False as a bulletin" became a proverb in Napoleon's time. He makes what excuse he could for it: that it was necessary to mislead the enemy, to keep up his own men's courage, and so forth. On the whole, there are no excuses. A man in no case has liberty to tell lies. It had been, in the long-run, better for Napoleon too if he had not told any. In fact, if a man have any purpose reaching beyond the hour and day, meant to be found extant next day, what good can it ever be to promulgate lies? The lies are found out; ruinous penalty is exacted for them. No man will believe the liar next time even when he speaks truth, when it is of the last importance that he be believed. The old cry of wolf!—A Lie is no-thing; you cannot of nothing make something; you make nothing at last, and lose your labor into the bargain.

[Anonymous No.19201362]

>>19201351
>example of a well-respected genius leader who lied like crazy
>yes lies ruin your reputation
>blah blah blah word games
>exclamation point
>blah blah primary school metaphysics
>blah blah something scary to scare the simple person

worst quote i saw today

[Anonymous No.19201365]

>>19201212
UEBER DIE LETZTEN DINGE

[Anonymous No.19201395]

>>19201212
People lie every second of the day, not just with their words but with their eyes and expressions, and not only to others but to themselves

[Anonymous No.19201404]

>>19201395
Damn do I get to blame Goddis?

[Anonymous No.19201539]

>>19201395
based jungian

[Anonymous No.19201556]

>>19201362
Not that anon but how do you not understand such a simple quote? That Napoleon can be significantly criticised for his role as leader is indisputable.

Carlyle isn't denying Napoleon's greatness either, just take this quote: 'He had to sink there, mournfully as man seldom did; and break his great heart, and die,—this poor Napoleon: a great implement too soon wasted, till it was useless: our last Great Man!'

[Anonymous No.19201564]

>>19201556
He's sperging out at Carlyle rather than the quote.

[Anonymous No.19201567]

>>19201232
this

[Anonymous No.19201573]

>>19201564
But why would you sperg out at Carlyle?

[Anonymous No.19201574]

>>19201212
My suicide note desu

[Anonymous No.19201583]

>>19201573
Carlyle rightfully criticized liberalism

[Anonymous No.19201607]

>>19201556
i understand what he means
but the example does not work
it did not destroy his reputation and he is seen as a hero and a genius, generally people would want their kids to be like him.
and the quote is shit.

>On the whole, there are no excuses.
empty
>A man in no case has liberty to tell lies.
repeated empty statement to puff it up and mislead the reader into thinking about the words and not the meaning
> It had been, in the long-run, better for Napoleon too if he had not told any.
how the fuck do you know?
> In fact, if a man have any purpose reaching beyond the hour and day, meant to be found extant next day, what good can it ever be to promulgate lies?
bullshit rhetorical question, nothing easier in the world than finding a reason to lie, i assume "reaching beyond the hour and day" is supposed to be some kind of shitty semi-religious reference/argument? an empty attempt at rhetoric.
>The lies are found out; ruinous penalty is exacted for them.
not true, and not true. also "don't lie because you'll be punished" nice fucking argument
>No man will believe the liar next time even when he speaks truth, when it is of the last importance that he be believed.
not true and this is assuming one gets caught in the lie. i don't think people lie with the assumption that they are going to get caught and i believe the very vast majority of lies are never exposed.
>The old cry of wolf!
ah yes here we get the reader to think about some old story rather than the empty shit they are reading. why not just repeat the story instead of this shit quote? its vivid and strong
>A Lie is no-thing; you cannot of nothing make something; you make nothing at last
what is this bullshit, how can something be nothing?
>and lose your labor into the bargain.
this scares the farmer reading this - he understood very little but now he understand that losing labor is not good so he should not lie.

quotes like this are a fucking plague. please do not spread them. it's not a point of rhetorics or language to surround a strong story with useless words, unclear questions and circular arguments. just say the fucking story about the boy who shouted wolf. he has nothing else. fuck this guy. and everybody writing in this way. just say
>if you lie you get caught and punished and noone will trust you
or make it into a memorable and hard-hitting metaphor
why make a whore of language like that

[Anonymous No.19201610]

Napoleon is chad in this quote and the man in the photo is the sojak screaming noooo noo my trutherinoo

[Anonymous No.19201619]

>>19201607
filtered

[Anonymous No.19201639]

>>19201607
>>19201610
Embarrassing posts.

[Anonymous No.19201650]

>>19201639
>>19201619
do you think there is anything of worth in the quote other than the information on napoleon and the reference to the wolf-shouting? or did you cum because he used the world ruinous and knows what is sentence rhythm

[Anonymous No.19201678]

>>19201650
If you're familiar with Napoleon's character and life, it is a good quote. He's saying more about Napoleon than just when he mentions his name.

[Anonymous No.19201694]

>>19201212
My diary, desu ne
The Bible too

[Anonymous No.19202814]

I remember this one book where the protagonist becomes successful only by telling lies. But in the end he is exposed. Can't remember the name though.

[Anonymous No.19202855]

>>19201212

[Anonymous No.19202943]

>>19201212
The Liar, by Dostoevski.

[Anonymous No.19202969]

>>19201212
No Longer Human

[Anonymous No.19203992]

>>19201395
>People lie every second of the day, not just with their words but with their eyes and expressions, and not only to others but to themselves
redpill me on this

[Anonymous No.19204862]

>>19201212
The Stranger, by Albert Camus