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>Be Diogenes
> Develop an enlightened philosophy called cynicism which promotes living virtuously and in accordance with nature
>The word devolves into a different meaning with negative connotations about being selfish and self-interested
How did this happen? Is there any other philosophy who has been done dirty like this? Is it some kind of materialistic conspiracy to slander the values of non-consumerism and simple living?

>> No.19067597

>>19067590
Diogenes was selfish and self-interested.

>> No.19067616

>>19067590
Cynicism isn't interpreted as selfish today either, what? Only if paired with other attributes, anyway.
If someone's cynical, it just means that they're picking apart something/averse to it, it has nothing to do with self interest.

>> No.19067630

>>19067590
I mean look at all those assholes surrounding and mocking him in that painting. Of course he was destined to be misconstrued.

>> No.19067640

>>19067616
From the Oxford dictionary:
cyn·i·cism
/ˈsinəˌsizəm/
noun
1.
an inclination to believe that people are motivated purely by self-interest; skepticism.

>> No.19067650

>>19067597
No? He was non-conformist.

>> No.19067869

Stoics understand Dio. epictetus considers him a sage on the level of Socrates.

>> No.19068021

>>19067650
Right. He did not care about society or anyone else, only his own opinion.

>> No.19068186

>>19067650
And is it not in accordance with man's nature to conform?

>> No.19068206

>>19067590
Imagine being a normal person going to work and some grandpa half naked schizo retard with a lamp walks up to you and says he looks for a man.

>> No.19068232

>>19067640
that's the opposite of what you think it means
read that again

>> No.19068295

>>19068206
that’s a nigga

>> No.19068308

>>19068232
The word no longer means what it originally meant and now has negative connotations about assuming the worst of people.

>> No.19068313

>>19068186
To an extent, but not if such conformity causes one to suppress the divinely inspired capacity for reason.

>> No.19068387
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19068387

>>19067590
>the illoominator
i’m convinced every meme born from this place is a jungian psyop being sent down by an ancient evil
the demiurge does not want me to enjoy history