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>Start reading the New Testament
>Jesus is extremely condescending and not comfy at all

You all lied to me. How do I even convert if I don't like the prophet's attitude?

>> No.19060938

You convert to a religion because you believe it's true, not because you like its tenets. This is a very common mistake.

>> No.19060939

condescending is when you talk down to people. How can you not talk down to people when you're a literal incarnation of the one true god?

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>>19060919
Matthew 18:6
"But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
Sounds based to me, goes against the stereotype that faggots push nowadays claiming pic related.

>> No.19060953

>>19060919
There are lots of times Jesus is (understandably) pissed, disappointed, stressed, and sometimes even derisive of his opposition and the sinful generation he walks among.
However, you also get the Beatitudes, and the resuscitations, and the times he talks to his inner apostles, etc.
You have to understand that while wholly God, Jesus was a man, he had emotions, and I believe being disappointed in mankind is very reasonable.
He is always forgiving.

>> No.19061008

>>19060953
true

>> No.19061014

>>19060919
Jesus was never a pacifist, most people don't understand this because most people have barely read the bible, if at all. I'm speaking of both Christians and non-.

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>>19061182
Jesus said forgive your enemy.

>> No.19061187

>>19061186
-after you defeat them

>> No.19061190

>>19060919
Faith is not supposed to be comfortable, nor peaceful; honour is; this is why any Christian with honour is at peace with the fact of being at war against the enemy.

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>>19061190
Jesus said turn the other cheek.

>> No.19061210

>>19061182
>imagining you're fighting a holy war against evil so you can feel special
lol

>> No.19061226

>>19061204
Yes —you should be prepared to face adversity with honour & dignity.

>> No.19061347

>>19061226
no he said that you have to take it like a little whore and when you sore just turn around and present the other hole

>> No.19061388

>>19061186
I did not notice this post of yours at first.

>Jesus said forgive your enemy.
No, he did not; Jesus promoted cordiological forgiveness of those whose hearts were corrupted/perverted, but still redeemable —id est: not yet totally consumed by darkness; the true enemy should be totally destroyed, not forgiven —this is obvious to any sapient person, and much more so to any Christian.

>> No.19061401

>>19061388
Who is the true enemy?

>> No.19061412

>>19061388
it's pretty clear
>if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
there's no excuse for not forgiving your enemies, after all Jesus says
>Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you

>> No.19061413

>>19061401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckVYO9oI8vc

>> No.19061428

>>19061401
The current rulers of this kosmos, and of this world.

>> No.19061469 [DELETED] 

>>19061412
You interpret the word "enemy" erroneously & frivolously, like a "Protestant" would; "enemy" is not synonymous with: "adversary", or with: "rival".

>> No.19061483

>>19061412
You interpret the word: "enemy", erroneously & frivolously, like a "Protestant" would; "enemy" is not synonymous with: "adversary", or with: "rival".

>> No.19061498

>>19061469
It's got nothing to do with interpretation of the word "enemy". Once again:
>if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Where does it say enemies, however you want to define it, are exempt from forgiveness?

>> No.19061519

>>19060938
Why would he believe it's true? Its only argument is "have faith bro"

>> No.19061523

>>19060953
Couldn't have said it any better. He had a gigantic responsibility that I think most people tend to overlook.

>> No.19061528

>>19061388
>>19061483
Well said!!! God bless you.

>> No.19061536

>>19061401
Them.

>> No.19061542

>>19061483
>>19061498
How will the Christian get out of this pickle with ego intact? Will he accuse people of being Protestants? Stay tuned...

>> No.19061569

>>19061536
Forgive Them and love Them or quit pretending to be a Christian.

>> No.19061575

>>19061542
Psalm 97:10
O you who love the Lord, hate evil! He preserves the lives of his saints; he delivers them from the hand of the wicked.

Proverbs 8:13
The fear of the Lord is hatred of evil. Pride and arrogance and the way of evil and perverted speech I hate.

>> No.19061576

The golden rule only works if both sides are following it. If someone wants you dead, it is your duty to the golden rule to also want them dead.

>> No.19061581

>>19061576
>If someone wants you dead, it is your duty to the golden rule to also want them dead.
Thou shall not kill
Do no repay evil for evil

By no means am I advocating for a pacifist approach, you fight evil with good.

>> No.19061591

>>19061581
You're a fucking pussy and christianity is a suicidal ideology and it's why catholics had to make up a bunch of bullshit rules and ideas to justify the evil shit they did for centuries.

>> No.19061594

>>19061498
>It's got nothing to do with interpretation of the word "enemy".
Yes, it does.

>Where does it say enemies, however you want to define it, are exempt from forgiveness?

1. Requisite for receiving forgiveness is redeemability.

2. Not everything needs to be, nor will everything until the end of the world be, concisely explicated in order to be known.

>> No.19061598

>>19061591
You have no idea what I'm doing, nor the things I'm dealing with in life. I don't hold anything against you, because you simply just don't know any better.

>> No.19061621

>>19061594
In conclusion, the Christian is incapable of finding Christ's words in the Gospels that condone his unwillingness to forgive his enemies. Don't forget:
>if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses
Fascinating the efforts they'll go to in order to get one around Jesus.