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>Let’s start with my ideal world – the world of thousands, preferably even tens of thousands, of neocameralist city-states and ministates, or neostates. The organizations which own and operate these neostates are for-profit sovereign corporations, or sovcorps. For the moment, let’s assume a one-to-one mapping between sovcorp and neostate. […] Let’s pin down the neocameralist dramatis personae by identifying the people who work for a sovcorp as its agents, the people or organizations which collectively own it as its subscribers, and the people who live in its neostate as its residents.

>A Neocameral ‘neostate’ is not owned by its residents or its agents. Its ‘monarch’ (or ‘CEO’) is an executive appointment. (90% of all confusion about Neocameralism, and Neoreaction in general, stems from a failure to grasp this elementary point.) Note: ‘subscribers’ (plural). More coming on this immediately.

>Every patch of land on the planet has a primary owner, which is its sovcorp. Typically, these owners will be large, impersonal corporations. We call them sovcorps because they’re sovereign. You are sovereign if you have the power to render any plausible attack on your primary property, by any other sovereign power, unprofitable. In other words, you maintain general deterrence. […] (Sovereignty is a flat, peer-to-peer relationship by definition. The concept of hierarchical sovereignty is a contradiction in terms. …) […] The business of a sovcorp is to make money by deterring aggression. Since human aggression is a serious problem, preventing it should be a good business. Moreover, the existence of unprofitable governments in your vicinity is serious cause for concern, because unprofitable governments tend to have strange decision structures and do weird, dangerous things. […] (Nuclear deterrence (mutual assured destruction) is only one small class of deterrent designs. To deter is to render predictably unprofitable. Predictably unprofitable violence is irrational. Irrational violence is certainly not unheard of. But it is much, much rarer than you may think. Most of the violence in the world today is quite rational, IMHO.) […] General deterrence is a complex topic which deserves its own post. For the moment, assume that every square inch of the planet’s surface is formally owned by some sovcorp, that no one disagrees on the borders, and that deterrence between sovcorps is absolute.The

I don't understand why he's not talked about more. he's our Aristotle.

>> No.19024594

>>19024496
>let's reinvent the holy roman empire
>but make it cyberpunk

>> No.19024621

>>19024594
>let's reinvent cyberpunk
>but make it boring

>> No.19024626

>>19024496
>cryptographic weapons
This is really where it descends into satire territory

>> No.19024639

>>19024626
I think he means ransomware

>> No.19024652

i like him, but I don't trust a software developer to solve the world.

>> No.19024711

>>19024496
It's funny to me how many entrepreneurs think that running a government is pretty much the same as running a business simply because they are both largely economic entities. What he says here has the same problem as every theory of large, corporatist, "for-profit" group of individual syndicates: it has no way of dealing with success. It is true that violence is not immediately profitable, but the short-term losses do not always outweigh the long-term gains. If a group of people under one gesellschaft have enough prosperity and resource they have no reason not to turn to war.

>> No.19024714

>>19024652
>i like him
Well thats dumb.

>> No.19024721

>>19024714
What's not to like about him? The first parts of most of his essays are usually interesting, it's just his conclusions and meandering that are annoying.

>> No.19024752

>>19024626
Cryptographic tools are already a thing.

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19024761

>>19024752
You really dont see any possible flaws in the plan to prevent military coup by having fucking cryptographic locks on guns

>> No.19024776

>>19024761
I do. But it doesn't mean it won't happen.

>> No.19024829

The pursuit of complete rationality actually reaches a point where it loops back around to irrationality like this guy says >>19024711
A great example of this is one of Adam Curtis’ documentaries, especially the one that talks about the Congo war of the early 2000s.
That war caused the Congo to lose millions of people, the median age of the victims being 5 years old, and widespread cases of cannibalism.
All so a bunch of outside factions could get their hands on cobalt mines.
Which they did, and everyone in the first world could buy PS2s at lower prices since making those mines available for exploitation drastically augmented supply.
So The pursuit of completely rational self-interest resulted in millions of deaths. Just so we could buy our PS2s a bit more cheaply,
Think about that one

>> No.19024893

>>19024829
My PS2 kills africans? That's terrible.

>> No.19024976

>>19024496
Moldbug is not dumb, how did he think this photoshoot was a good idea

>> No.19024994

>>19024976
Probably didn't care about it and was told this picture looked good. People calling eachother "cringe" is a fairly new phenomenon.

>> No.19024995

>>19024976
I think this was actually initiated by the photographer. I mean it's goofy but so we what.

>> No.19024997

>>19024976
>Moldbug is not dumb
Read the OP

>> No.19025059

>>19024976
He's clearly an autist but in that way Jews are autistic where they kind of get away with it through chutzpah

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19025157

>>19024496
I prefer our Nietzsche.

>> No.19025162

>>19025157
literally just read hegel and deleuze/guattari and went schizo. not based.

>> No.19025172

>>19025162
Filtered.

>> No.19025281

>>19025157
I liked those pics that would subtly increase the space between his eyes.

>> No.19025300

>>19025162
land has never read hegel

>> No.19025334

>>19025300
it shows.

>> No.19025355

>>19025300
He clearly has