Books on mind prisons

[Anonymous No.18961150]

What are some books on freeing yourself from the insidious influence of dogmas and ideologies your mind has integrated, especially on matters of spirituality and philosophy?
I used to be able to keep my intellectual distance from any idea I stumbled upon but I've lost that ability. Now I'm susceptible to memes and this place aggravates the problem with all the bullshit that's being constantly peddled here, it's like a psyop.
This book is usually recommended as a way to "deprogram" yourself from unneeded biases, is it good? Other recommendations are welcome too

[Anonymous No.18961160]

lmao
the brain looks like a maze for a reason
imagine thinking reading will free you

[Anonymous No.18961231]

>>18961160
What will, then?

[Anonymous No.18961238]

William Blake, start with The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, then Milton.

[Anonymous No.18961241]

>>18961231
Being No One, Metzinger.

[Anonymous No.18961273]

>>18961231
>Freely, he parked in the middlr of the highway and got out of his car
>He was finally free from his vehicle which imprisoned him
>There he stood in the middle of tje road
>A free little bitch
>Then came the semi and the 33 car pileup
Get back in your brain, kinki little bitchboi

[Anonymous No.18961294]

>>18961273
meds

[Anonymous No.18961302]

>>18961294
Yhe doctor prescribes me (You) hardcore eternal BDSM

[Anonymous No.18961309]

>>18961150
Gitanjali

[Anonymous No.18961324]

[Anonymous No.18961374]

>>18961150
Wasn't RAW a glowie
Is that book actually good

[Anonymous No.18961598]

>>18961374
Yes
Yes

[Anonymous No.18961612]

>>18961238
illiad -> oresteia -> aeneid -> metamorphoses -> tanakh -> new testament -> divine comedy -> paradise lost -> blake

[Anonymous No.18961651]

>>18961150
>is it good
Yes. Quantum Psychology (same author) is also good.
You will also want to read about NLP, the problem there being most books about it are utter shite and I can't for the life of me remember any one singular exception. Sniff around the topic.
Books on hypnosis are also of interest.
The Mind's I by Hofstadter and Dennett has more of what you need in the philosophical sense.
The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes is factually wrong in many places but has important ideas to carry you onward.
After reading all this you take a heroic dose of mushrooms and let it all simmer. You'll have undone your nasty thought patterns and be back at square one knowing absolutely nothing.

[Anonymous No.18961676]

>>18961651
Excellent, thank you

[Anonymous No.18961730]

>>18961238
I don't get Blake, what did he even believe in

[Anonymous No.18961794]

>>18961730
His own personal christianity derived theology. It looks very kin to gnosticism and similar occultist interpretations of the Bible, but his concepts aren't explained enough to enlighten anyone outside his way of thinking. As such it's a whole personal cosmology and religion the details only known to Blake himself (and possibly contemporaries).
Whatever some tard might try to tell you here, anyone claiming to have a bead on what he's raving about have just substituted their own personal interpretation of his personal interpretation as if it was fact based.
That's not to say it's all valueless. It's a rewarding look into his mind. I'd put it next to something like the exegesis of Philip K Dick.

[Anonymous No.18961799]

>>18961612
Blake the giant standing on the shoulders of so many ants, good post anon.

[Anonymous No.18961820]

>>18961612
>aeneid
Ah yes the shitty me-too fanfic version of the Illiad. A book so bad its author asked to have it burned on his deathbed.

[Anonymous No.18961822]

>>18961730
Harold Bloom wrote an excellent book on Blake that explains him well. The Marriage of Heaven and Hell is straight forward, is it not? The speech in Milton (part in the pic of what you quoted) explains that piece well.

Think of Schelling's Freedom Essay but in the form of a mad Hebraic painter-prophet.

[Anonymous No.18961831]

>>18961231
death

[Anonymous No.18961876]

>>18961831
>he thinks death will free him
Nobody tell him.

[Anonymous No.18962106]

>>18961651
>Dennett

[Anonymous No.18962303]

>>18961876
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.18962338]

[Anonymous No.18962455]

>>18962338
Lot of good stuff on this chart, some stupid stuff too, and some stuff I have no idea why it's even here (Joyce? Milton? Adorno?)

[Anonymous No.18962458]

>>18962455
>he has no idea
LOL
LMAO

[Anonymous No.18962613]

>>18962458
Do you?

[Anonymous No.18962616]

>>18962613
Do I?

[Anonymous No.18962713]

>>18961150
Christopher S. Hyatt, maybe. A bit edgier than RAW. I would recommend the Black Books and Psychopath's Bible

[Anonymous No.18962721]

L A R U E L L E

[Anonymous No.18962732]

>>18962338
>kybalion but no corpus hermetica

[Anonymous No.18962751]

>>18961231
no one can tell you, anyone telling you they know the answer or saying you cant be free doesnt know anything. Follow your own route

[Anonymous No.18962754]

>>18962721
Why is this guy shilled recently, isn't he just another obfuscating French philosopher? What makes him relevant here

[Anonymous No.18962759]

Can someone please explain to me what Prometheus Rising is all about? I see it recommended all the time and I see people make vague references to "exercises" or something in the book but it's all very vague and obscured.

[Anonymous No.18962772]

>>18961231
Only death can free us

[Anonymous No.18962797]

>>18962759
started reading it due to recoms from here seems like its full of pseudoscience

[Anonymous No.18962811]

>>18962338
>no eliade
>no AOS

[Anonymous No.18962821]

>>18962797
Yeah, I'm pretty hesitant to read it when I hear the author was a glownigger and when everyone is so vague about the contents.

[Anonymous No.18963044]

>>18962821
It gives instructions on how to change the way you perceive things, how to shift your perception

[Anonymous No.18963067]

>>18962759
It is a bunch of exercises the author cribbed from various movements, at his own admission, that he found worked to help reduce reflexive judgements couched in unexamined priors. Basically positive disassociation from oneself to observe ones own dogmatic assumptions.

It is very pseudoscientific, again at his own admission, but he isn't asking your to believe anything so much as force you to become aware of the meta-beliefs that frame your sub-conscious everyday inferences, to not take so much for granted. What matters is the exercises, not the theory.

What is interesting is how, despite the "woo" aspects, the book was hugely influential on the Rationalist/Less Wrong crowed, with multiple people out of that milieu having mentioned going through a RAW phase in their teens. And you can kind of see the genealogy when reading this book. Just swap out 'zen' and 'gurdjieff' 'crowley' references for Bayes theorem and you have writers like Scott Alexander.

[Anonymous No.18963565]

>>18963067
>multiple people out of that milieu having mentioned going through a RAW phase in their teens.
MKULTRA

[Anonymous No.18963726]

>>18961820
>A book so bad its author asked to have it burned on his deathbed.
Didn't know this, more?

[Anonymous No.18963742]

>>18961876
One of the dumbest post I've seen in my 20+ career on the internet, thanks

[Anonymous No.18963761]

>>18962751
This

[Anonymous No.18964039]

>>18963742
Seethe more archon slave

[Anonymous No.18964076]

>>18961160
>imagine thinking reading will free you
but this is exactly what Prometheus Rising says as well. ironically you should open a book for once,
>Sads as it is to say, you never understand anything by merely reading a book about it. That's why every science course includes laboratory experiments, [...] The reader will absolutely not understand this book unless he or she does the exercizes given at the end of each chapter.
This is literally the first chapter.

[Anonymous No.18964099]

>>18963726
>>18961820
congrats you won brainlet of the day award.
kafka wanted his all of his stuff burned, gogol wanted to burn dead souls (and did). wanting your stuff burned has nothing to do with whether or not it should be burned. and if you're going to say kafka is shit, then please give me your best argument against nabokov's praise of it (then you're going to say he's shit also and you haven't even read pale fire)

[Anonymous No.18964136]

>i hover above you
>life pulled out your mouth
>i become you
>opening of the mouth
>unlawful possession
>jellyfish in cold sweat deep end
>hollow shell twitch disconnection
>pupils swell
>my entrance
>hijacked no questions asked
>stretch you on like latex mask
>my sigils your epitaph

On reading, "anti-philosophy":

All texts ARE Demiurgic in the sense that the sanctioned reading of all texts (!) mirrors the Phenomenal world, text itself being embedded in the abomination of "natural theology". Far from "connecting the dots" or "coinciding opposites", the Gnostic reading should be, first, a rejection of intertextual reading, for example, that something happened "from Kant to Hegel", that this constitutes and iterative process of revealing anything at all, and, second, a realization that it is this very reading which does everything that it accuses the pejoratively Protestant reading of: that texts have no meaning in intertextual reading, that, in not actually existing, the alleged process of revelation can accommodate any and every interpretation and is the perfect throne for one's solipsism, that the actuality sanctioning the text is its literal actuality, not the fantastic process. Texts not as shards involved in the breaking of the vessels but texts as vessels of breaking: each text contains its own opposite to such a degree that it constitutes something fatal to the illusion of "natural theology", more to the point that Protestantism is the only Western Metaphysics. This is, of course, most applicable to the Canonical Gospels, Jesus is simultaneously speaking about Yaldabaoth and the Monadic father.

[Anonymous No.18964168]

>i hover above you
>life pulled out your mouth
>i become you
>opening of the mouth
>unlawful possession
>jellyfish in cold sweat deep end
>hollow shell twitch disconnection
>pupils swell
>my entrance
>hijacked no questions asked
>stretch you on like latex mask
>my sigils your epitaph

On reading, "anti-philosophy":

All texts ARE Demiurgic in the sense that the sanctioned reading of all texts (!) mirrors the Phenomenal world, text itself being embedded in the abomination of "natural theology". Far from "connecting the dots" or "coinciding opposites", the Gnostic reading should be, first, a rejection of intertextual reading, for example, that something happened "from Kant to Hegel", that this constitutes an iterative process of revealing anything at all, and, second, a realization that it is this very reading which does everything that it accuses the pejoratively Protestant reading of: that texts have no meaning in intertextual reading, that, in not actually existing, the alleged process of revelation can accommodate any and every interpretation and is the perfect throne for one's solipsism, that the actuality sanctioning the text is its literal actuality, not the fantastic process. Texts not as shards involved in the breaking of the vessels but texts as vessels of breaking: each text contains its own opposite to such a degree that it constitutes something fatal to the illusion of "natural theology", more to the point that Protestantism is the only Western Metaphysics. This is, of course, most applicable to the Canonical Gospels, Jesus is simultaneously speaking about Yaldabaoth and the Monadic father.

[Anonymous No.18964171]

>>18964099
Not idea why you quoted me.

[Anonymous No.18964183]

>>18961876
why do these niggers have to do this shit

[Anonymous No.18964190]

>>18964168
>All texts ARE Demiurgic
Iranaeus said that some gnostic sects believed salvation was completely dissociated from the phenomenal world, i.e. that there was nothing "to do" in an extreme antinomian sense, that the pneumatic's existence in this realm was inconsequential to what awaited him beyond. In that sense I can understand why books would be useless.

[Anonymous No.18964270]

>>18964183
For the loosh

[Anonymous No.18964647]

>>18962338
>Crowley
Literal shit-eating faggot and a LARPing glowie. sadly, his influence is so pervasive among the 'occult' community that he actually is necessary.
>Campbell
if you want to read Jung, read Jung, not a fucking Walmart-brand Jung hack.
>Blavatsky
Even more of a LARPing fraud than Crowley.
If you absolutely MUST read a female occultist, Dion Fortune is far better, but still a woman, so...pretty much retarded.
>Random sociopolitical books
some of these are good, some not so much. I have no idea what they're doing on this chart though.
>Steiner
meh, a cut above Blavatsky. Too christian for my taste, your mileage may vary

[Anonymous No.18964971]

>>18964076
Me
>reading won’t free you
You
>uh bro, check out this quote from this book
>“Sads as it is to say, you never understand anything by merely reading a book about it.”
>Why don’t you, eheh, open a book for once :DDD
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.18965106]

>>18964099
Imagine having this whole conversation in your head thought out 10 steps ahead but forgetting to actually defend the Aenid being more than an Illiad fanfic. You fucked up.

[Anonymous No.18965207]

>>18963067
Tried reading it a while ago but I was put off by the author and his psychology nonsense. Many such cases. I will read it again and try the exercises properly.

>the book was hugely influential on the Rationalist/Less Wrong crowed
Not a good sign. They're like militantly unselfaware. Normal people are less blindsided. Unique sway that clumsy use of the image of rationalism and enlightenment has on the otherwise faithless.

[Anonymous No.18965230]

>>18961730
He was schizophrenic do who knows

[Anonymous No.18965248]

>>18964971
Quote literally says there are exercises to be done after each chapter. Do you just not know how to read? lmao

[Anonymous No.18965257]

>>18965248
No, I clearly am illiterate, given that we haven’t been having a conversation over a few post now.
You’ve got a real free mind, bro.

[Anonymous No.18965277]

Bro trust me, read this book to be enlightened.

[Anonymous No.18965297]

I’m totally not possessed by ideas bro, you’ve got to listen to me: this specific book will free your mind.

[Anonymous No.18965307]

>>18964168
excellent

[Anonymous No.18965368]

Anon mad, he is a hylic, he will never see the divine. Sad!

[Anonymous No.18965447]

Bro, if you're not self-hypnotized in the way that I am, you're just not AWAKE.
NGMI

[Anonymous No.18965851]

>>18964647
Based

[Anonymous No.18966554]

Bump

[Anonymous No.18967600]

bump

[Anonymous No.18968328]

Laruelle

[Anonymous No.18969309]

Last night I woke up around 4 am to take a piss, as I usually do, and as I was falling back asleep had a hypnagogic vision of the twin towers collapsing accompanied by a voice that said "first the dustification of the body" as the first one collapsed, "then the dustification of the soul" as the second one collapsed.

[Anonymous No.18970326]

>>18962772
Only freedom can kill us

[Anonymous No.18970379]

Clever of the OP to use an image with a blue border so that it looks like I've posted in his schizo thread as I scroll through the catalogue.

[Anonymous No.18970462]

>“Now, therefore . . . because of your renunciations and all your sufferings which ye have endured in every region, and because of your changes in every region and of your being poured from one into another of different kinds of bodies and because of all your afflictions, and after all this ye have received the purifying mysteries and are become refined light exceedingly purified—for this cause, therefore, ye will go on high and penetrate into all the regions of all the great emanations of the Light and be kings in the Light-kingdom for ever.
>But if ye come forth out of the body and come on high and reach unto the region of the rulers, then will all the rulers be seized with shame before you, because ye are the refuse of their matter and have become light more purified than them all. And if ye reach unto the region of the Great Invisible and unto the region of those of the Midst and of those of the Right and unto the regions of all the great emanations of the Light, then will ye be revered among them all, because ye are the refuse of their matter and are became light more purified than them all. And all the regions will sing praises before you, until ye come to the region of the kingdom.”
>because ye are the refuse of their matter
>because ye are the refuse of their matter
>because ye are the refuse of their matter
>mfw scatotheology is perennial

[Anonymous No.18970489]

>>18970462
>“Ye then in particular are the refuse of the Treasury and ye are the refuse of the region of the Right and ye are the refuse of the region of those of the Midst and ye are the refuse of all the invisibles and of all the rulers; in a word, ye are the refuse of all these. And ye are in great sufferings and great afflictions in your being poured from one into another of different kinds of bodies of the world. And after all these sufferings ye have struggled of yourselves and fought, having renounced the whole world and all the matter therein; and ye have not left off seeking, until ye found all the mysteries of the kingdom of the Light, which have purified you and made you into refined light, exceedingly purified, and ye have become purified light.”

[Anonymous No.18970526]

>>18970462
>>18970489
>It came to pass then, when I saw the mystery of all these words in the vesture which was sent me, that straightway I clothed myself therewith, and I shone most exceedingly and soared into the height.
"I came before the [first] gate of the firmament, shining most exceedingly, and there was no measure for the light which was about me, and the gates of the firmament were shaken one over against another and all opened at once."
"And all rulers and all authorities and all angels therein were thrown all together into agitation because of the great light which was on me. And they gazed at the radiant vesture of light with which I was clad, and they saw the mystery which contains their names, and they feared most exceedingly. And all their bonds with which they were bound, were unloosed and every one left his order, and they all fell down before me, adored and said: 'How hath the lord of the universe passed through us without our knowing?' And they all sang praises together to the interiors of the interiors; but me they saw not, but they saw only the light. And they were in great fear and were exceedingly agitated and sang praises to the interiors of the interiors.

Major White Hole suggestion.

[Anonymous No.18970725]

>>18962338
Why is Foucault's Pendulum there? It's a parody of stuff like "The Da Vinci Code", the Name of the Rose doesn't fit that much as well?

[Anonymous No.18970877]

>>18961374
>spends his life doing drugs and making fun of paranoid people
>paranoid people: hE's ActUaLly WiTh tHe fEdS