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thus
hence
moreover
nonetheless

>> No.18939000

>>18938995
ESL?

>> No.18939006

>>18938995
Hence is used casually where I live among middle class people. Not sure why but it's not considered like an archaic or formal word

>> No.18939023

>>18938995

alas
notwithstanding
by and by

>> No.18939049

>>18938995
Interlunar
Plenilune
Sockfeet

>> No.18939064

>>18938995
I love this little slut.
I tailor my conversations to the demographic. Most people are functionally illiterate and don't have beyond an 8th-grade vocabulary. I do work in some 3-syllable words occasionally to remind them that they are stupid.

>> No.18939075

>>18938995
best part of yuna is that she knows

>> No.18939091

>>18938995
>>18939023
>>18939049
I use those words on a day to day basis. You fags need some schooling.

>> No.18939095

>>18939075
...knows what?

>> No.18939096
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18939096

before people used the word "you" thou vs thee must have been pain in the butt

people can't even get me vs i right

>> No.18939097

>>18939091
wow you're so smart

>> No.18939102

>>18938995
>thus
I use it all the time.
>hence
I use it sometimes.
>moreover
That one I don't.
>nonetheless
All the time.
And I'm French, wtf is your excuse OP?

>> No.18939105

>>18939095
that people print out pics of her and relieve their spunk on to it

>> No.18939120

>>18939097
Yes I am.

>> No.18939121

>>18939102
>>18939091

you guys must be british or some shit. no one in america uses these words in conversation

in american pop culture they are never used

outside of a shakespeare adaptation i have never heard the word thus used in a movie or tv show or by people in conversation

>> No.18939123

>>18939064
And they spit in your food occasionally to remind you that you're a tool
People don't decide the level of their privilege, but only a subhuman monkey can't figure out how to talk to others in a way that makes them feel smart

>> No.18939146

>>18938995
i've used those irl, but i'm a polyglot, and sometimes i just remember them before the alternatives

>> No.18939147

>>18938995
is she korean or jap? My asian spotting ability is still elementary

>> No.18939153

>>18939123
No, they have no idea. I am very affable and easygoing. As I said, I tailor my vocabulary to whoever I'm speaking with. I was in the Army, I have no issue talking with white trash. I'm sure I do it better than you.

>> No.18939155

>>18939121
I am American and I hear these words used fairly often. Are you black?

>> No.18939161

>>18939153
You're one of those lel, they did a study about how progs lower their speaking level when they talk to minorities

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18939166

no modern uses those words. you only encounter those words in pre-20th century literature

>> No.18939168

>tfw you don't know if you use these words because you don't talk to anyone
hermit life

>> No.18939172

>>18939155

liar

name one american television show where thus and moreover are used

>> No.18939181

>>18939161
Wrong again dumbass. As I said, I work in 3-syllable words occasionally to remind them I am smarter than them. I give subtle hints of my power level. It is a skill, being able to do that without them thinking you are pretentious. You slowly pull them into deeper water until they admit they can't swim well enough, then you magnanimously lead them back to the shallows.

>> No.18939188

>>18939147
korean

>> No.18939197

>>18938995
I had this problem but got smarter friends and thence was exposed to more words

>> No.18939200

people here acting like they speak like a 18th century human being

>> No.18939212 [DELETED] 

>>18939197

do you have good reading comprehension?
what in my post implies that i don't know those words?

god the people on the board are fucking retarded. you guys need to stop reading those stupid worthless occult books

>> No.18939218 [DELETED] 

>>18939212

on this board*

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>>18939172
I don't watch TV, I can't help you. But if you look at wiktionary, they'll say if a word is obsolete or archaic. Maybe something like 'hence' is a bit more old-fashioned but thus and moreover, really?
Ngram viewer also tells me they're all still used in writing (even in American English).

>> No.18939237

>>18938995
Why are Koreans so ugly bros, holy shit, I want to exterminate them and all the other chink, send niggers, Jews and crackers to inseminate their women, that gene poll need some cleaning dawg.

>> No.18939247

>>18939200
Because some people genuinely do, though it can depend on context or social setting.

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18939253

>whenceforth

>> No.18939259

hitherto
henceforth

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18939265

>learn the word "hence" as a child
>use it in casual conversation
>get made fun of every time for using fancy words and trying to be smarter than everyone else
>use it in a writing assignment
>teacher accuses me of plagiarization for use of a handful of words she says I shouldn't know, one of which was the word "hence"
>have to, as a nine or ten year old, purposefully dumb down my speech in order to communicate with not only my peers, but teachers
There's nothing worse than American public schools.

>> No.18939267

>>18939233
I think it's more important to be able to say what you mean. I have been accused of using "big words" before but I really don't agree with that sentiment. I use the correct words for what I mean.

hence I use in daily conversational language. much more than thus, which is the type of thing I would use in a presentation when I'm giving a conclusion. moreover and nonetheless are honestly useless words and you can make them same statement whilst omitting them completely

i think where you live also has a lot to do with it. compare average IQ in metropolitan areas and bumfuck nowhere.

>> No.18939269

>>18939265
You are a coward.

>> No.18939273

>>18939233

what is this chart supposed to mean?

moreover is under 1% of the time?
thus is only 1.5% of the time?

only time thus is used in film or tv is when a character is quoting some literature

>> No.18939277

>>18939269
>>18939265
how the fuck is hence an obscure word I say "hence the fact" all the fucking time. where the fuck are you people from.

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18939283

>>18939172
>american television show

>> No.18939293

>>18939283
Kek

>> No.18939295

>>18938995
Pursuant

>> No.18939317

>>18939267
Sure, I try and speak in a clear and concise manner but where I live in an upper middle class suburb (I'm American but my parents are English), none of these words seem all that strange to me.
I do often hear them in normal speech. And sure, I might agree that 'moreover' and 'nonetheless' are bad form, but I still do hear them fairly often.
>>18939273
It just shows you trends in language. Check it out, it's fun. https://books.google.com/ngrams

>> No.18939318

>>18939265
I had a teacher accuse me of plagiarism too when I was 11 or 12. I still want to fight that fucking faggot

>> No.18939328

>>18939181
They undoubtedly think you're a fag you autist

>> No.18939337

>>18939293
You put it in the wrong box

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18939344

>>18939265

>There's nothing worse than American public schools

how is it the school's fault?
parents are mostly to blame for the stupidity of their children, not the schools.
if you are actually doing the homework and reading the textbook you should be learning something

school mostly consists of the textbooks and lectures. if the school sucks it means the textbooks suck. lectures are worthless and are for idiots who need to review the material in the textbook.
if you actually reading the textbook you should be learning something. it doesn't matter if the teacher sucks. i don't need a teacher.

>> No.18939463

>>18939328
Wrong yet again, stupid. I give them the benefit of the doubt, they inevitably reveal they are just another cow in the herd, so I scratch their chin and move on.

>> No.18939470

>>18939344
>parents
those don't exist in America anymore.

>> No.18939472

>>18938995
Desultrous
Seldom
Solice

>> No.18939477

>>18938995
nigger

>> No.18939814

>>18939265
It depends on the school. I've been in merit based schools all my life, most required exam scores to get in, I never encountered such a thing. They are all public schools too. My former highschool is being sued for racism currently because they don't have enough blacks and spics in attendance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuyvesant_High_School#Demographics_and_alleged_discrimination
So in a way you're right, in the long term. We live in the great dumbing down.

>> No.18939910

>>18939344
This is such a bad take. American schools are trash publicly funded propaganda camps filled with burnt out middle aged women who have given up on teaching and are only waiting for retirement and their pension.
Any exceptional children are ether beaten down or medicated.

>> No.18939918

>>18938995
> thus
use semi-frequently
> hence
rarely/never use
> moreover
use quite frequently
> nonetheless
use rarely (though commonly in writing)
> t. bong

>> No.18939965

>>18939181
This is the most retarded thing I’ve read today. Whats great is that came from inside of you. That genuine secret of your internal workings. I would love to watch you on Kitchen Nightmares, or Doctor Phil being eviscerated by a man’s man who can discipline you into having some sense of decency.

>> No.18940285

>>18938995
I love you

>> No.18940325

>>18939121
Also American and hear all but "thus" on a regular basis.
>>18939172
>he thinks watching TV is having a conversation

>> No.18940335

>>18939121
I'm ESL and internet is my entire conversational exposure to English so idk if these aren't used irl

>> No.18940352

>>18939965
You are clearly one of the cattle.

>> No.18940353

>>18939265
>>18939318
>be around 12, 13
>teacher tasks your class with writing a review to some text
>write and show it
>teacher says it's obviously plagiarised and gives you a bad note
I still remember his name. One day I will contact that fucker and tell him what I think of him.

>> No.18940360

>>18939965
>Doctor Phil
top jej

>> No.18940368

>>18938995
>thus
>nonetheless
fairly common I'd say

>> No.18940372

>>18939091
>why yes, I say "plenilune" instead of "full moon" all the time
bait

>> No.18940386

>>18940353
you won't, coward.

>> No.18940423

>>18939096
You're going to have your mind absolutely blown when you learn what conjugation and declension are.

>>18939233
>hence
>oldfashioned
I have coworkers who watch true crime on TV who use hence all the time.

>> No.18940459

A lot of Greek and Roman names. How the fuck do you pronounce Lycaon? Is Ovid supposed to be like Covid or like Ah-vid? etc. etc.

>> No.18940470

>>18938995
Physiognomy. Granted, it's an outdated term for an outdated practise, but damn.. ol' Dosto uses it a bunch. Also "myriad".
>>18939265
That's funny. I got scolded over "plaguerizing" a line from a poem in my french class. I still don't know if I unwittingly picked it up somewhere, or if I genuinely made it up myself. It was a bit about walking over the shore of my thoughts picking up a shell that echoed with the past. It even resembled the meter, despite me not knowing the first thing about rythm.

>> No.18940476

>>18940459
>Lycaon
Loo-ka-on, with the "oo" pronounced like that in "book", the on pronounced like "own", and the "ka" pronounced like it is in "Karl", with a rising pitch on the "a". In English, however you want.

>Ovid
O-wid-yus. In English, it's always "oh-vid".

>> No.18940507

>>18940476
>homerus
Homer
>ovidius
Ovid
>quintus fabius maximus
Fabian

Why are anglotards so obtuse?

>> No.18940511

>>18939121
You really never hear nonetheless?

>> No.18940530

>>18940507
And Spics call Ovid Obfeedeeo, Homer Omairo, and Fabian Faybeeo, and Frogs call them Owhbh, Hme, and Fabhlhl, what's your point? If we called them by their names in Greek and Latin, complete with the fucking tones in Greek, you'd be getting butthurt about that.

>>18940511
I work in an office in the US: all the time. No one can agree if it's "none the less" or "nonetheless", but nonetheless, it's heard.

>> No.18940547

>>18939181
based verbal dominator anon

>> No.18940560

>>18938995
all the words in ulysses that joyce must have just fucking made up on the spot

>> No.18940604

>>18940530
>spics debase cultural values thus we must be allowed to lower ours
*ahem* LOGICAL FALLACY DUMB SLUT FUCKING KILL YOURSELF LMAO

>> No.18940709

>>18940604
This was already answered in >>18940530. If we pronounced these correctly you'd be getting butthurt about how Anglos are pretentious or whatever. You don't care about "cultural values", in fact you want to debase them even further by having people not talk about these things at all. What you're really butthurt about is Anglos talking about Ovid period. If you really cared about "cultural values", you'd shut the fuck up and never open your fat maw again.

But you won't, because it burns you up inside that people still know who these men are.

>> No.18940735

>>18940470
I've gotten weird looks for using physiognomy. Saying something like 'He has the physiognomy of a coward.' Most people just aren't as intuitive and perceptive as me so they probably think I'm using skull shape measurements, but it's much more subtle than that. It's an art, really.

>> No.18940788

>>18939910

if your child is so stupid that he or she readily accepts everything that is taught in school you are a failure as a parent

>> No.18940793

>>18940530
>frogs call them
Ovide (oh - vee - duh) Homer (oh - mèr) and Fabius. But you got me melancholic. That feeling when you will never travel for the far shores of your empire and indulge in exotic women and delicacies by merit of your name and written merits alone.

>> No.18940832

>>18940788
I've been reflecting on my public education recently. It was really lackluster. What a shame, so much wasted time.

>> No.18940843

>>18938995
What kinda incel be talkin like dat tho

>> No.18941359

>>18939265
>1st or 2nd grade
>we have to write a list with 10 animals
>rabbit, dog, slug etc
>decide to put in "komodo dragon"
>teacher says I'm wrong and that dragons don't exist
>try to explain it's a big lizard but she won't budge

>> No.18941474

>>18941359
not completely on topic, but
>5th grade social studies class (USA)
>forget why, but I'm arguing with my study group that other countries don't have states the same way the US does
>they're all dimwits saying "that's just how countries work lol"
>call over teacher and ask her
>"yeah anon, every country has states, what are you talking about lol"
>study group continues to call me an idiot
Ignorant teachers are the worst

>> No.18942484

>>18938995
a
the
and
not
but

>> No.18942500

>>18941359
>>teacher says I'm wrong and that dragons don't exist
lmfao

>> No.18942522

>>18938995
South Korean beauty standards are so damn tacky.
Lived over there for a few years. All the woman obsessed with the "small face, big eyes, high nose, pale skin" look looked like aliens trying to be human.

>> No.18942529

well this thread has elucidated that if you are anything but a bong then your vocabulary is utterly dire
absolute state of mutts

>> No.18942552

OP must be an American

>> No.18942559

>>18938995
>>18939023
>>18939253
>>18939259
>>18939295
>>18939472
hear/say these all the time (aside from desultrous)
>>18939049
legitimately uncommon
>>18939121
>American Pop Culture
No shit it's made for retards
>>18939172
>American television show
You realize there is a class of Americans above the station of what's produced for television, right?
>>18939477
I say this one daily

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18942966

Easier to just post the book.

>> No.18943116

plurisubharmonic

>> No.18943134

>use all of these
>still wonder how people can tell I’m autistic

>> No.18943412

>>18938995
Thus is a common word. Hence occasional.
Moreover, nonetheless are not really meant for conversation because they are long and are replaceable in 99.9% of cases by simpler words like "too" or "yet".

>> No.18943437

>>18939123
>privilege
lol seethe

>> No.18943455

Some of these answers have to be trolling, or else most anons spend most of their time bussing tables for dock workers.

>> No.18943471

>>18940735
They don't know physiognomy but you expect they know what phrenology is? They're just giving you the blank open-mouthed stare of peasants.

>> No.18943491

>>18943134
Me desu

>> No.18943513

>>18939233
Interesting, nonetheless is actually a recent word almost unknown before 1960.

>>18940507
>>18940530
>>18940709
Anglos are indeed tryhard with Latin names. People from romance language countries spontaneously adapted old names to their vernacular through the centuries, as the classical Romans already did for their archaic ancestors, and as Anglos do for their medieval figures.

>> No.18943687

>>18939091
If you say by and by in conversation, you either are schizophrenic and are talking to the voices in your head, or you are sententiously and feebly trying to talk to your professors who can perceive your intellectual insecurity because no self-respecting person would honestly tolerate anyone saying that orally.

>> No.18943694

>>18939265
You sound bitter and insecure. Take your meds, you pretentious dork.

>> No.18943758

>>18939121
>>18940325
What do you use instead of "thus"? It's a legitimately useful word.
>>18939265
Ameribros tell me this isn't real...

>> No.18943779

>>18943513
nonetheless was mostly spelled as three words before.

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18943901

>>18942522
JUST

>> No.18944837

>>18939161
Wow, amazing. People change how they speak based on their audience. Who woulda thought.
When I'm speaking to other students
n the philosophy department about philosophy I use a lot of Greek and Latin.
Do you think I speak at this level when I talk to my younger brother?

>> No.18944846

>>18939247
>Because some people genuinely do
No they don’t, they’re just retarded popinjays

>> No.18944848

>>18943687
What a fucking peasant. Go read Harry Potter.

>> No.18944863

>>18944837
Judging by this post you speak like a faggot regardless of audience

>> No.18944874

>>18944848
>t.seething pseudo-intellectual
Many such cases

>> No.18944889

>>18944863
Kek

>> No.18944938

>>18939161
Minorities are stupid and liberal white people tend to be more educated. It makes perfect sense. Do you talk to every human being the same irrespective of age, sex, or status?

>> No.18945186

>>18939120
Not as smart as me, motherfucker.

>> No.18945231

I don't see the point in talking to most people. I haven't spoken to anyone, besides my family, outside of a professional context in over 7 years. What's the point?
I don't care if people consider me intelligent either. Unless money is involved, why should I care?
I used to have an online "friend" for over 8 years. We would talk about literature and art-house films, but after a big argument 2 months ago, I am hoping he commits suicide.

>> No.18945240

>>18945231
What was your argument about?

>> No.18945252

>>18944863
based

>> No.18945269

>>18945240
Covid vaccination.
I am on the anti-vaccine side whereas he's pro-vaccine.
Also, I don't like his personality, so the breakup of the "friendship" was long overdue. I don't enjoy most friendships because they involve tolerating big personality differences.
I genuinely hope he commits suicide.

>> No.18945289

>>18945269
You sound a wee bit autistic to be perfectly frank with you. Wishing death on people is generally a waste of time. The finger in the dike of the coof is highly suspect though I agree with you there

>> No.18945321

>>18945289
>Wishing death on people is generally a waste of time.
Wishing good bearings to people who you see as lowly is even worse. You sound disingenuous to me. At least by wishing death upon them, one is being honest both with themselves and others.

>> No.18945330

>>18945321
You can also just 'detach'.

>> No.18945353

>>18945330
I have detached. I would agree with your criticism if I were trying to actively sabotage his life. It's more like a casual, "I hope that faggot kills himself," and then moving on with my life.

>> No.18945408

>>18939091
You have a nice and rich vocabulary then unironically.

>> No.18945414

>>18938995
poltroon

>> No.18946388
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18946388

i suffer from cognitive decline due to mental illness and depression

i forget what words mean and have to look them up repeatedly

i would have learned japanese by now if i didn't have a shit brain

>> No.18946398

>>18938995
The

>> No.18946637

>>18938995
Phenomenon, but used correctly